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Blackdragon Dating System: Volume Five Part One

How To Attract And Date Younger Women Blackdragon How To Bring Younger Women Into Your Life and Keep Them There

HOWTO ATTRACT ANDDAT EYOUNG ERWOMEN

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Table Of Contents Introduction 4 How To Use This Book Set

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1. Overview

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2. The Three Types Of Younger Women

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3. The Necessary Frame To Have

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4. Your Age As A DHV

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5. Fashion and Physical Appearance

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6. Where and How To Meet Younger Women

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7. Online Dating With Younger Women

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8. Daygame With Younger Women - Part One

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9. Daygame With Younger Women - Part Two

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10. First Dates and Day2s

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11. Specific Techniques For Type Threes

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12. Ongoing Relationships With Younger Women

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13. VYW Referral Game

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14. Drama Management

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15. Things To Watch Out For

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16. Sex

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17. Afterword

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Introduction This book and it’s two companion volumes, Younger Women Case Studies and Younger Women Transcripts is designed primarily for men over age 30 who are interested in dating women much younger than they are. If you are under 30 you will still derive a great deal of value from these books if you date women under age 30, just but realize at many points it’s geared towards men who are a little older. Dating younger women is not difficult. I’ve been doing it consistently andawith great successapproach for manyand years now. It simply requires slightly different different focus from attracting women your own age. I can tell you for a fact that having younger women in your life is extremely rewarding, not only sexually but emotionally and in terms of living a happy life. Not to mention that younger women keep you younger as well! Let’s get started!

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How To Use This Book Set In this book I use a lot of terms and acronyms that apply to dating, seduction, and relationships that I use across all of my writings. I could spend pages and pages of this book listing out a glossary of terms, but what makes more sense is to just point you to my online glossary at my blog. Every unusual term or acronym I use is defined there, and I always update the definitions and new terms there to adjust to new information. So any time you come across a term like AFC, LSNFTE, soft next, or MLTR, just click over my glossary and it will have all the answers you need. There are three actual books in this package. THIS book is the one you should read first. The second is the case studies book, the third is the transcripts book. Of course you’re welcome read the books in any order you like but I wrote them with the above sequence in mind.

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Chapter One Overview Years ago when I was still married and well into my thirties, I had occasional thoughts, like all men do, of what it would be like to date a woman who was 19 years old, or 22 years old, or any youthful age. It wasn’t an overwhelming desire, like that experienced by Kevin Spacy’s character in the movie American Beauty. Rather, it was simply a passing pleasurable curiosity. “I wonder what that would be like?” At the ripe old age of 35, I found myself divorced and single once again, for the first time in almost ten years. I started dating. A lot. I dated and had sex with many women in a relatively short period of time, as I’ve talked about in detail in my other ebooks. Most of these women were in my own age range, a little younger, a little older, at most no more than eight or nine years plus or minus my own age. I enjoyed these women, but after a while my thoughts started returning to that curiosity about younger women. Much younger women. For the19 first time I seriously considered to date 18 and year-olds. Hell, I thought, whyattempting not? So I did my best to approach much younger women, both in real life and online. To my surprise, I was soon on a date with an extremely attractive 20 year-old. The youngest woman I had ever dated at that point was 26, and here I was,

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on a date with a 20 year-old girl, myself being 15 years older than her. During that first experience with a woman that young, there was some good and some bad. The bad was that she indeed acted like a teenager. She swore like a sailor. Though I could tell she was intelligent, her speech patterns were that of a moron. At one point she spent 20 minutes talking about her hair. I’m not kidding. Her hair. The good news was that she was so beautiful, so full of energy and life, and so fun to just be with, I was able to overlook a lot of this immaturity. I was extremely turned on. Moreover there was an…effortlessness…to the sexual attraction that seemed less forced somehow than with women in their 30s or 40s. The first date was very brief, like most of my first dates, because we both had tight schedules that day. When I got back to my home, I was suddenly overcome with a horniness I had never experienced before. It was really something. I was so randy I was temped to have sex with my couch. I was overcome with a powerful, sexual euphoria that I had never experienced before. And the amazing thing was I wasn’t really that attracted to her. She was very attractive, but a lot of women are very attractive. This was…different. There is, without a doubt, a powerful biological mechanism within men of all ages that generates powerful sexual attraction to women of prime childbearing age. That means women in their late teens and perhaps early twenties. I have experienced it many times, and you probably have too, even if you’re and old man. I don’t think this biology diminishes much just because you turn 30, 40, or even 50, even if your preferences in types of women change over that time.

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That first date with the 20 year-old never went anywhere, primarily because I did a lot wrong. Despite being a little turned off by her silliness and immaturity, I remembered the powerful attraction I had for her. I thought to myself “Hey, I got one out on a first date. If I did it once, I can do it again. If I can do it a few times, I should be able to actually have sex with a woman that young.” It made sense. What did I have to lose? So while dating women around my own age, I also attempted to date women who were much younger, primarily the 18 to 23 crowd. I ended up in a brief relationship with a woman at that time (age 31) and for a while suspended my “prospecting” efforts (though I was still sexual with other women; monogamy is not something a big fan of). After a few months, we broke up, and II’m resumed. About two months after that, it finally happened. I had sex with a very pretty 18 year-old. I was 36 at the time. A few months later I had sex with another 18 year-old, and actually had an open relationship with her that lasted several months, during which I had sex with two of her friends, both of them 18 years old. That was all several years ago. As of this writing I am now almost 40. Since then I have had sex with, and relationships with, a huge number of women ages 18 to 23. Many of them were quick flings. Many of them I’ve had ongoing relationships with. I’ve even had an open relationship with a 19 year-old that has lasted consistently for two and a half years so far (she is now 21). I have not just dated younger women over the last few years. I’ve dated and had sex with many women, some much

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younger, some around my age, some older, and a handful much older. I can tell you from real and extreme experience that younger women are easier to be with in dating contexts, as well as relationships, than women over age 30. I’m not saying women over 30 don’t have their advantages. They certainly do! But they simply cannot beat the ease, fun, excitement, and happiness of younger, less angry, less jaded, and of course better-bodied younger women. I fully intend on continuing to date women this young for many years, well into my 40’s and even 50’s. I have personally worked with, known, and coached men in their 40’s and 50’s and many of them have ended up dating women 20, 25, even 30 years younger. It’s not tough if you do the right things and avoid doing the wrong things. In this book and its companion books, you’ll learn exactly what to do and not do so you can achieve the same results. Legal Ramifications

Before we get into the good stuff, we need to get this out of the way first.

Never, ever, ever get sexual with a woman under the legal age of consent. Read that again. Then read it again. I’m serious about this. I know a 23 year-old guy who is on house arrest, has to wear ankle bracelet for four years, and has been legally branded a sex offender for the rest of his life, all because he had fully consensual sex with his girlfriend, an 17 year-old girl three months before her 18th birthday. Her parents found out,

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decided they didn’t like him, called the cops, and that was all it took. I could tell you other horror stories like this and I’m sure you’ve heard them too. They do happen. Sadly, we live in a hyper-frightened, overly litigious, politically correct era, especially if you live in the United States like I do. Some people out in your world are sadly freaked out about this older man / younger woman issue. If you intend on dating much younger women, you need to make sure you have all your bases covered and never cross any legal lines. This means you must do the following: 1. You must learn the legal age of consent in your area (country, state, or province). If you are at all unsure, getclear-cut on the internet and find others out. Some states have very ages of consent, don’t, and instead have lots of conditional rules. If you are at all unclear after researching this online, spend $30 and call a local attorney and have them explain it to you until you understand it. The legal system will not care if you didn’t know the specifics of the age of consent laws in your area, so you need to know them cold. Moreover, getting sexual with someone under the age of consent is considered a “strict liability” crime. That essentially means the law does not have to prove you did it in order to punish you. Yes, you read that right. Messing around with legally underage women is serious business. Learn the age of consent in your area, and avoid all women who are under that age, at last until they become legal.

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2. Check her ID before you ever touch her. Have her show you her state ID or driver’s license or passport or social security card or something similar. Young girls do lie about their age to make them appear older. They do this all time. If she lies about her age and you get sexual, you’re in the realm of “strict liability” and you will go to jail regardless of anything else. I have a strict policy of never even touching a much younger woman until I’ve seen her driver’s license or similar ID. If she can’t show me one because she “forgot it” or “lost it” or whatever, it’s hands-off until she can procure it and present it to me, no matter how hot she is or how badly she wants me. I always remember that the law will not be on my side if there is a problem. 3. Verify her age through other means if suitable ID is unavailable. As we’ll discuss later, younger women tend to be somewhat irresponsible, especially when it comes to paperwork issues. Often, they really don’t have ID and really are telling the truth about their age. That means you’re going to have to verify her age some other way. There are many ways to do this, but the easiest I’ve found is to get her full name (and if you don’t know her well, verify that really is her name) her social security number (or equivalent if you live outside the US) and the name of the city she was born in. Then call a private investigator and have him verify her date of birth. It will cost you less than $40 to do this in most cases, and it’s the best 40 bucks you’ll ever spend, believe me. There are web sites that also provide services like this, but they seem to go out of business all the time. So at the moment, I’m unable to recommend any. If you do

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find one that works, use it (and email me and let me know). Some states and/or countries have sites that actually show you a scan of her birth certificate for a small fee. Nice. Usually you will not need to go this far, but I have done this more than once with several younger women I’ve had sex with, and just the assurance that they were indeed “legal” helped a lot with my confidence (an extremely important thing you’re going to need; more on this later) and peace of mind. 4. Use willpower and do not get sexual with underage women who pressure you. You might get to the point, as I have, where you get so good at this, underage women will be propositioning you for sex. This is where you need to be a mature man, use your willpower, thank her for her interest, and get the hell out of there. If she’s really hot and/or very physically developed for her age, this will be hard, but you must do it. Over the years I have had multiple experiences where underage women have pressured me for sex or sexual “stuff”. Every time, I refused. I’m not going to jail, thank you. You need to do the same. You can get her phone number and/or friend her on Facebook and stay away until she has her 18th birthday (or whatever age she becomes legal in your area), then hit her up. That’s fine. But the key point is you do not touch them and you certainly do not fuck them when they’re not legal. Don’t be stupid. I’ll say it one more time. I do not recommend, promote, or endorse getting sexual with women under the legal age of

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consent. Do not get sexual in any way with women under the age of consent in your area. In most areas, that means women under age 18. Now don’t worry. There are plenty of 18 year-olds (and slightly older) who are readily available for you. Let’s focus on them. Two Types Of Interest

Usually, I’ll refer to the women we’re talking about as “VYW”, which stands for Very Young Women, defined for this book (and the other books in the series) as women age 18 to age 23. If the age of consent in your area includes women age 16 or 17, you may include them in the VYW category as well. For most of the western world, 18 is the age of consent, so for the rest of the book I’m going to consider 18 as our lowest target age. Just reduce that age by a year or two if the age of consent is lower where you live. If you’re reading this book, you fall into one of two categories. 1. You’re a guy who’s over age 30 who is interested in dating VYW. 2. You’re an older guy who is well over age 45 or 50 who is interested in dating women VYW or any women who are much younger than you, even if that means women in their mid-twenties or above. The vast majority of the techniques I’m going to be talking about will apply equally to both types of men. When necessary, I will differentiate the two types of men when discussing certain topics. What Is Too Old?

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One of the more common questions I’m asked is “I’m 45 years old (or 59 years old, or 53 years old, or whatever). Is it reasonable for me to expect to date an 18 year old? Is that too old?” In general, this is what I’ve seen. Assuming a man does everything right, i.e. he does everything we’re going to talk about in these three books, any man from age 30 to about age 44 can date women as young as 18 or close to it. It’s not a problem. At age 45 or so, dating VYW as young as 18 or 19 starts to get a little more difficult and resistance rises, but only a somewhat. Dating women in their early or mid twenties is still very easy. By a man’s late 40s it gets a little tougher. Things start getting really difficult for attracting VYW in a man’s mid to late 50’s unless he starts throwing money around. (Which we are not doing to do here. This book is how to attract and date younger women without having to do that. Most my first dates with younger women whom I end up having sex with cost me zero dollars.) Again, dating women in their mid to late twenties is still quite easy. I’m talking about girls who are specifically 18 or 19 years old. Once you move women’s ages up over the age of 22 or so, things get easier. I know several men in their late 40s and even early 50s who are dating women in their early 20s without a problem. Therefore if I were to make some generalizations about men’s ages vs. the ages of younger women, it would look like this:

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Men Age 30 – 39: Very easy to date VYW of any age (provided you do it right). Men Age 40 – 44: Easy to date VYW age 20 and older. VYW younger than 20 doable but a little more difficult. Men Age 45 – 49: Somewhat easy to date VYW age 22 and older. VYW younger than 22 doable but more difficult. Women age 25 and older are very easy. Men Age 50+: VYW more difficult but still doable. Larger numbers required to get results. Women age 25 and older still very easy for men in their early 50s.

Again, this is for men who do everything right, and most older men do everything wrong when it comes to younger women. Of course, this is all just a generalization. I do know of men in their 50’s who fuck 18 and 19 year-olds who do not throw a bunch of money around like Hugh Hefner. I plan on being one of them someday. They’re just more rare.

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Chapter Two The Three Types Of Younger Women Not all VYW are the same. There are huge differences between them. This was one of the things that really struck me when I first started dating VYW. Some young women are literally disgusted at the thought of having sex with a man any more than about four or five years older than they are. Other young girls have been fantasizing about getting fucked by a much older man their entire lives, and have been secretly waiting for one to come along who is strong, confident, and not creepy. Still other VYW have never given the issue of age any thought…they could go there perhaps, but they don’t need to. It is important, therefore, to break out VYW into three distinct types. Type One VYW

Type one girls are VYW (and remember, “VYW” means women age 18 to 23) who are simply disgusted at the thought of being sexual with older men. They are adamant about it. The thought of sex with a man more than just a few years older than her repulses her heavily. There could be many reasons for this. Sometimes type ones have younger, good-looking fathers, and having sex with a man just a little older is too much like having “sex with dad, ew!” This is very likely the reason if you are older than her father and she resists you strongly.

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Other type ones are simply immature for their age. The concept of older men not only turns them off, but frightens them as well. No matter how good-looking, fun, cool, or confident an older man is, they simply cannot conceive of sex with him. He’s just too old, and therefore, too alien. Yet other type ones are just very, very picky. They have the image of the “perfect guy” and that guy is a very specific age, ruling out any men older than that. About 30% of VYW in society are type ones. Your goal with type one girls is to: 1. Identify them as quickly as possible. 2. Drop them as quickly as possible so you can move on to other women. Once you determine a VYW is a type one (and it will be usually be very obvious!) you need to drop her fast and MOVE ON. Working on her, trying to seduce her, trying to change her mind, all of these things are a complete and total waste of your time. It will not happen with her . Even if she gets drunk, she’s not going to touch you. You cannot change her mind. She’s a type one. This is a good thing. I like type ones because they do not waste my time. As soon as I determine a VYW is a type one, I thank her for her time, drop her out of my life, and move on to other women. You should do the same. Type Two VYW

Ah, type twos. My favorite.

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Type two VYW are the polar opposite of type ones. While type ones are disgusted at the thought of older men, the thought of getting fucked by a much older man gets a type two wet. Literally. Type two girls are massively attracted to much older men in powerful ways. They have always been that way, usually starting at puberty. Type two girls are those girls who stared starry-eyed at their algebra teacher during high school, while all the other girls were flirting with the cute football players. These are the girls who had constant sexual fantasies about their teachers, next-door-neighbors, father’s friends, or dads who hire them for babysitting jobs. While most VYW are excited about guys like Justin Beiber and Chris Evans, type twos are fantasizing about guys like Bruce Willis and Morgan Freeman. Most VYW are excited when they see buff guys with their shirts off, but type twos are excited when they see guys in suits. Some type twos, most in fact, don’t advertise this desire. They keep it quiet to all but their closest friends, and even then it’s considered a big secret. Other type twos are more than open regarding their desire for older men, and actually can’t wait to show off their 42 year-old boyfriend to their other teenage girlfriends. Most type twos are very turned off by boys their age, and avoid dating them if at all possible, unless they feel they “have to” because they have no other choice. Many type two VYW feel trapped by the feeling that only boys their age, whom they hate, are sexually available to them. If a VYW’s last few boyfriends have all been way older than her, this is a telltale sign she’s a type two.

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Type two girls, both the secret and overt kinds, are the types of women you’re going to be working with the most. As long as you do everything right, these women are easy. I mean that in every sense of the word, not just sexually. You are (hopefully) older man for she’s been dreaming whole life. She the is just waiting you to come into about her lifeher and sweep her off her feet in a confident, non-needy, and non-creepy way, that magical way the boys her age are incapable of doing. Type twos represent about 20% of the VYW population at most. That means most VYW you approach are not going to be one of them. That’s okay. 20% is more than enough as long as you’re putting in the numbers (which we’ll talk about in detail soon). Plus, not all of your hopes need to be with the type twos. There’s one more type of VYW… Type Three VYW

If 30% of VYW are type ones and 20% are type twos, that leaves at least 50% for the rest. These VYW are type threes. Type threes are simply VYW who don’t care about age one way or another. They really have never thought about it, either positively or negatively. When they see a man, they are focused than age.go If there, he’s attractive toof her and doesonallattributes the right other things, she’ll regardless his age (more or less). If not, she won’t. That does not mean that type threes are easy free game like type twos. Type threes present several obstacles: 1. Like all women, type threes are very concerned about what other people think about them. Dating a man 20 years older than her might be okay with her, but she may feel that might look weird to her friends/family/parents/etc. This may cause some

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serious resistance to the concept (and thus requires you to be on your game as well as be more discreet). 2. Unlike most type twos, the vast majority of type threes have no experience dating (or fucking) older men at all. If you have sex with her, you’ll likely be her first “older guy”. That means it’s outside of her comfort zone. For this reason, type threes require more solid “game” and work to get to the point where they will have sex with you, much less date you in any sort of relationship context. No, they will not resist you on the basis of your age like a type one will, but there will usually still be some sort of resistance you will need to overcome. It will not be a “do everything right and it’s a slam dunk” like with a type two. 3. Unlike type twos, type threes do enjoy dating guys their own age. That means there way, WAY more competition for you; the type competition you’ll never have to worry about with a type two. Every time I’m done dating a type three VYW, she always goes right back to dating boys her own age. Remember, type threes don’t care about age. They’ll date a 20 year-old guy just as happily as they’ll date a 38 year-old guy. Perhaps more so, since the 20 year-old dude is more in her comfort zone. Don’t worry though. I devote an entire chapter in this book on how to close on type threes. They just require a little more patience and work than type twos. Moreover, they require more time. When I have sex with a type three, it almost always requires more of my time to get her comfortable with the concept than a fast lay with a type two. This is normal and to be expected. To review, here are the three types of VYW and your default actions with each:

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Type Ones – Zero odds of success. Identify and screen out as soon as possible. Type Twos – Proceed strongly and fast. High odds of success. Type Threes – Proceed carefully and gently. Medium odds of success. We’ll cover all of the above. For now, it’s important to get the definitions of the three types down, because I refer to them often.

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Chapter Three The Necessary Frame To Have In my primary dating ebook, I talk about how important the twin qualities of confidence and outcome independence are to your ability to attract and keep women your life. As an older man working with much younger women, these traits are even more important than when working with women your own age (for reasons I’ll describe in a minute). The good news is that theoretically, as an older guy, you already should have a decent quantity of both confidence and outcome independence. I work with a lot of guys in the seduction business, and the difference between guys in their early 20’s and guys in their late 30’s is often night and day. Younger men are often raging with neediness, loneliness, drama-queen behavior, and a strong need for acceptance. Older men often have these negative traits as well, but usually not nearly as much. As an older man, you need to take all of your experiences and successes and hone this into a powerful sense of confidence and outcome independence. It is absolutely critical you demonstrate these two qualities with VYW, or nothing you will learn in these books will help you much. I’m going to briefly describe confidence, outcome independence, and a third trait you’ll need: non-creepiness, in a minute. First you need to clearly understand why these three traits are not only necessary, but more necessary for VYW than with other women.

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The Life Of The Hot Younger Woman

VYW live a different life than older women. I’ll use an example by comparing a typical hot 28 year-old with a typical hot 18 year-old. On the surface, the smoking hot 28 year-old woman and the hot 18 year-old girl appear to move through life about the same. They’re both hot, and they know it. They both dress hot and present themselves well. They both get an extreme amount of attention from men. However if you look deeper, strong differences emerge. The 28 year-old gets hit on by men all the time, sure. But men are not throwing themselves at her, propositioning for sex constantly. They can’t, because likely she knows these men in the workplace where they’d get fired if they pulled that. Other men around her are going to be her age or older, which means their moves towards her are going to be more classy and less overt. Her access to men is compartmentalized into times only when she’s not working on her responsibilities in life. Most of her time is taken up by her job, extended family, school, the gym, and her children if she has them (which statistically speaking she most likely does). The 18 year-old’s situation is completely different. Unlike the hot 28 year-old, the hot 18 year-old is constantly surround by horny younger men who are constantly telling her how hot she is, how big her tits are, how beautiful she is, and how much they want her to move in with them. On top of this, she is getting a constant barrage of sexual propositions from these horny bastards. She is being asked for sex on almost a daily basis, and by multiple men. Since younger men usually have very poor game, often she’s even begged for it.

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While the 28 year-old is at work or college or the gym or taking care of children, the 18 year-old is hanging out at malls, flirting with guys downtown, and having sex with guys at parties. Men are constantly around her, complimenting her, groping her, and kissing her ass. It gets even worse. The hot 28 year-old would never tolerate this behavior. She’s used to men fawning all over her and while sometimes she likes the attention, often she tires of it and it annoys her. If a man actually makes a sexual comment, she will often actually get upset. The 18 year-old? Hell no! She LOVES all this immature attention from needy younger men. It’s all new and exciting to her, and she drinks it up with relish. This is even more intense if she’s a late bloomer, and a lot of very hot VYW are. I’ve dated many 18 and 19 year-olds who were ugly ducklings at age 15 or 16 and then suddenly blossomed, getting big boobs, losing weight, growing out their hair, and going blonde. By the time they hit 18, they’re suddenly gorgeous. These women LOVE every bit of immature, stupid sexual attention they get from men (even if they complain about it in a joking way). So inwith the middle all this comes you. You are out a date a hot 18ofyear-old, and you start telling heron how pretty she is, how cool and fun she is, and how she should “just come back to your place”. Will that work? Are you being ANY different than the last 50 guys who have tried to fuck her? The answer is of course, no. Kissing a woman’s ass like that might work if she’s 33 years old. Maybe. But if she’s a cute VYW, she’ll just place you in the “just like everyone else who tries to fuck me” category, which is a roundabout way of saying she will not have sex with you.

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Confidence and Outcome Independence

I hope you understand what I’m saying here. Your confidence outcome of paramount importance and if you want toindependence make youngerare women a part of your life. As I said, I’ve discussed these two qualities in-depth in my other books, so I’m just going to summarize them here. Confidence means that you are always relaxed, happy, calm, not nervous, strong, and have no problem issuing orders and preferences to a woman you’re sitting across from. It means your body language is always strong and relaxed. Your walk is bold and straight, perhaps even with a swagger. Your eye contact is strong but not weird, your stomach in, your chest out. You are not phased by anything that happens. The world is your oyster. Outcome independence means you literally do not give a shit how the interaction may end up. If you’re on a first date with super ultra hot 20 year-old, you’d like to fuck her of course, but if you don’t, you don’t care at all. If you end up fucking her, great. If she calls you an asshole and storms out of theamazing coffee shop, fine.met, If she tellsequally you you’re most man that’s she’s ever that’s fine.the It’s all fine. You don’t care. Regardless of what happens with this one woman, you know there are thousands of other hot women out there, right around the corner, and if she doesn’t work, you’re on to the next hot babe on the list. Outcome independence is probably the most attractive quality you can possibly have to women, especially VYW. Just imaging being on a first date with that hot 18 year-old from the above example. She’s used to men stumbling and drooling all over her, and here you are, relaxed, talking to

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her, not complimenting her at all, enjoying yourself, and clearly not giving a shit about how the interaction ends up. she You do won’t eventhis, knowshe whywill . be suddenly attracted to you and

We’ll talk more about specifics on the first date with a younger woman in later chapters, so if I just threw a lot at you, don’t worry, we’ll get to it. Non-Creepiness

As an older man attracting VYW, there is a third trait you need that normally you don’t need to worry about. That is non-creepiness. You’ve probably heard about “risking creepy” when trying to seduce a woman. That’s good advice. You should touch a woman (kino) very soon and strongly and confidently escalate to sexual activity as fast as possible (in most cases) even if you think touching her “this soon” might make you look “creepy”. This is a very effective way to get laid and I do it all the time. However! If you’re an olderrule. guy “Risking trying to creepy” attract adoes VYW, this is an exception to that NOT work with VYW and older men. As a younger girl, she is already going to be on guard against you as an older man acting creepy, especially if she’s a type three (but this is an issue with type twos as well). You being 20 years older than her (or more) is already enough of an issue. You getting “creepy” on top of all that will instantly derail the interaction and you’re out. It is extremely important to be confident, outcome independent, even sexual, but not creepy.

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“How can I be confident and sexual without being creepy?” you ask. I’ll give you some examples of confidently sexual vs. creepy and you’ll see what I mean. Examples of Confidently Sexual • Asking her a question about the sexual prowess (or lack thereof) of the ex-boyfriend she’s talking about. • Musing about how you like to grab a woman’s hair hard during sex, saying it with a calm smile on your face. • Asking her if she cums vaginally or clitorally while taking about sex. • Confidently talking about how you like bigger asses on women and hate smaller ones. • Confidently and calmly answering any sexual or detailed relationship questions she asks you no matter how personal, and getting explicit with the answers. • Joking witty aboutand sexfunny, or sexual your jokes are actually not issues crude (and and stupid). Examples of Creepy • Clearly staring at her cleavage. • Implying strongly that “we should go back to my place” way too soon in the interaction. • Saying “I bet you like big thick cocks!” and then winking at her.

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• Saying something sexual then laughing at your own joke. • Talking about weird sexual stuff, like S&M or fisting or sex with animals. • Creepy eye contact that is too strong, boring into her eyes. • Wild eye contact that is too weak, always darting your eyes around the room as you talk. • Clearly leering at other women while on the date. • Body language that is “too interested”. Leaning forward, getting into her face, etc. • Being too eager to talk or to impress her, especially regarding sexual topics (but others as well). See the difference? Younger women are instinctively going to have their “creepiness radar” on full-blast when they first meet you. You need to dial down the creepy, needy sexual stuff as best you can. The good news is once you start having sex with her, you can get as kinky as you like. Another way to describe this is to be sexual, but not horny. Horny men are a turn off, and she’s well used to horny men. Sexual men on the other hand are extremely attractive, and that’s what she doesn’t see much of. It’s what will help differentiate you from all the other men in her life. A horny guy is leaning forward, leering at her, getting a boner in his pants as he’s talking to her. A sexual guy is leaning back, relaxed, smiling, and talking about sex and sexual experiences in a way that engages her imagination.

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Every technique we’re going to be talking about must come from a place of confidence, outcome independence, and noncreepiness. Otherwise, your results will be very spotty no matter how honed your technique is.

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Chapter Four Your Age As A DHV If I had only one sentence to answer the question “How can I attract much younger women as an older man?”, it would be this: Be the man the boys her age are not.

Sometimes I will notice that older guys will go out of their way to dress younger, act younger, engage in “young guy” activities, and lie about their age. Ithat suppose thereunder is nothing wrong and can work, certaintechnically conditions, if youwith are that, no older than perhaps 35 or so. It’s a mistake and I’ll tell you why. The reason a younger woman is going to like you, be attracted to you, want to be with you, is because of how you are different from the young guys her age, not because you’re the same. It’s a key point and a lot of older guys misunderstand this. Does a 21 year-old girl want a guy who looks 38 but acts like he’s 25? No. If that were the case, she’d just go for guys who act 25 and really are 25.

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A guy who is 38 and more or less acts like he’s 38, now that’s different. Interesting. Unusual. Compelling. “Forbidden.” Exciting. Guys her age are kissing her ass, getting emotional way too fast, talk like “gangstas”, and play Xbox all day. You’re an older guy. Confident. Strong. Sure. Focused. Successful. Controlled. Steady. These are powerful qualities to have, and extremely attractive, not just to younger women but to all women. These qualities will attract the type two VYW to you like a magnet, and make the type threes at least give you a serious second look. However if you dress like you’re going out to the clubs and talk like a guy 15 years younger than you, you’re going to destroy all the qualities that attract younger women to older men. Older guys who go out of their way to act younger are really just trying to score with the type ones. The problem is as I said back in chapter two, type ones don’t want to have sex with an older man no matter how cool or “young” he seems. The type threes aren’t going to care at all about your false young behavior and the type twos are actually going to be repulsed by it. I’m not saying you try to “act old” either. That’s also a mistake. Too many older guys grumble about “that damn rap music” and dress like old married AFCs. You don’t want to act like one of her young guy friends, but you also don’t want to act like her dad, uncle, or grandpa either (though there are slight exceptions to the dad thing…we’ll talk about that later). You don’t want to hide your age or be ashamed of it. Your goal is to promote the good qualities and advantages of your

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age over younger men while diminishing the few negative qualities of your age (if any!). Here’s exactly how you can accomplish both: 1. Unless it’s part of a greater overall strategy, never lie about your age. If you’re 42, tell her you’re 42 and don’t shy away from it. (Am I telling you to never lie about your age no matter what? I don’t like about my age, but I do work with guys who do fudge their ages a little and come clean about their age later in the interaction. It’s one way to go, and it can work, but it’s not ideal in my view, for all the reasons we’re discussing.) 2. Don’t try to dress like a man younger than you. Dress cool, dress age appropriate. goingbut to talk about this in detail.Next chapter we’re 3. Be busy. Have a busy schedule. Make sure she knows you have things to do. Men her age, even those with jobs, usually have a LOT of free time on their hands. You don’t want to be in that category. David DeAnglo once said the immortal words, “Give her the gift of missing you.” It was one of the most accurate things ever spoken on the issue of seduction and relationships. Give her plenty of opportunities to miss you while you get work done in other areas of your life. Let all the guys her age constantly bother her because they’re bored and have nothing to do. 4. Do not tolerate drama or immature behavior from her. Guys in her age group will dive right into her drama and will fight and scream and bitch and rationalize and explain and argue right along with her until the cows come home. As an older man, you need to be

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above that childishness. If she starts throwing immature drama your way, give her one stern warning. When she acknowledges it, immediately change the subject. If she does it again, soft next her and go do something else with your life while she cools off. I’ve devoted an entire chapter (chapter fourteen) to drama management, but in the meantime, remember this: Drama is for younger men. Not you.

5. Avoid “young guy” vernacular. If you’re over the age of about 32, you should not be saying the word “dude” too often, and I better not ever hear the letters “OMG” fall out of your mouth unless you’re clearly being sarcastic. You get the point. 6. Exhibit responsible behavior. Young guys are irresponsible, older men are responsible, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to be and that’s what younger women are going to expect (and if they’re type twos, be attracted to). I’m not saying you can’t booze it up or have kinky sex or occasionally drive really fast. Just make sure you’re doing those things responsibly. You know what I mean by drinking responsibly and drinking irresponsibly. There’s a difference between when a 40 year-old guy gets drunk and when a 23 year-old guy gets drunk.

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Chapter Five Fashion and Physical Appearance We’ve talked about how you need to allow your age to DHV you and not attempt to look or act younger. A key component of this and of all your seduction efforts is your style, fashion, and physical appearance. The goal here is to dress appropriate for your age but do so in modern styles. Pay attention to what celebrities your age are wearing, and use that as a basis. Sources like GQ magazine and Askmen.com are also good. Don’t dress younger, instead dress cool. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. If you are severely fashion-challenged and have no idea where to start, pay $100 and go spend an hour with an image consultant. Alternatively, go shopping with two women who are well under the age of 35 and have them give you some pointers (this is the only time I’ll tell you to take advice from women about anything dating-related). On first dates with younger women, I will often wear nice, jeans (not the baggy wrinkly kind), nice shiny business shoes, a nice button-down shirt (usually blue) and sometimes wear a suit jacket over that. I look good. I look my age. Most importantly, I look cool, with the times, and like I know what I’m doing. These are all the images I want to convey. Sometimes I will even wear a full-on business suit to the first date if I get wind that guys in suits turn her on. This is

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very common with the type twos. Guys in suits to them are like girls in cheerleader outfits to us. Here are some examples to get you started. If you’re a guy in his 30s, here’s the Colin Farrell look:

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Colin Farrell is in his mid-30s and always does a good job at dressing cool while not trying to look younger than he is. It’s a slightly more “edgy” older guy look and it works. If you’re in your 40s, take a look at this:

Mr. Craig here is dressed completely age appropriate but still looks very cool. Even though his clothes are nice he’s still casual and relaxed. Notice his two top buttons are unbuttoned and his sleeves are rolled up. Casual, cool, and classy all at the same time. Perfect.

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For you guys in your 50s, here are two different possible looks, both of which work.

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I can only hope I look as young as Liam Neeson does when I’m in my 50s. Go back and watch his fantastic movie, Taken. People don’t realize he was 56 years old when he did that film back in 2008. The way he was dressed and the way he carried himself in that movie was part of the reasons he looked so damn good for his age. Hair

You need to have a current, non-nerdy hairstyle. I didn’t say you need to have a crazy peacocked hairstyle, I just said current and non-nerdy. Older men tend to fall into the trap of either not caring about how their hair looks or styling their hair the same way they did when they were in high school 25 years ago. Both are bad. The easiest way to avoid this is to again, check out some modern celebrities who are around your age and find a hairstyle you like. Talk to an upper-level hairstylist for assistance if you need to. Gray Hair

This is mostly a personal preference thing. A little gray, especially if you’re over 40, is fine, and won’t damage your ability to attract younger women. A lot of gray likely will. If you’re over 40, have a little gray, and you really don’t care, leave it alone. However, if you’re under 30 and gray or if you’re over 40 and don’t like your gray or if you have a lot of gray regardless of how old you are, dye your hair at every haircut. Most inexpensive haircut chains have very cheap hair dye options for men, often under $15. This is what I do. It removes 80% to 90% of the gray from your hair in less than 10 minutes and looks great.

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If you can afford full-bore dying that eliminates all the gray from your hair, go for it. It’s important you think your hair looks “young” so you can be confident in dealing with women, younger or otherwise. Balding

First let me state for the record that I have been clearly balding since I was about 32 years old and I have had sex with many younger women anyway, VYW included. Having a small bald spot or thinning hair is not a make-orbreak deal with VYW, especially the type twos. That being said, bald spots or clearly thinning hair still makes you look less attractive to older and younger women alike, thus going bald is still a bad thing in terms of your physical appearance, if you can see scalp on women, the top of your head you are stilland going to lose points with requiring you to ramp up your game and/or put in more numbers of women you open. It must be addressed. Here’s how you can keep your balding head a minimal issue. 1. If you are balding, the first thing you need to do is to start a topical regimen to prevent future hair loss. Products like Rogaine or Nioxin are both fine, and there are many others. I recommend topical solutions that you apply directly to your scalp, not pills you take orally. Pill solutions like Propeica do work but have way too many side effects for my taste. Do your research, choose your option, and start using it daily. No, these products will not re-grow lost hair despite what the marketing says. What they will do is retard the hair loss process and prevent or slow the loss of future hair.

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Also add vitamin B complex and vitamin B6 to your daily vitamin intake. Vitamin B6 can help retard hair loss and you must take B complex to absorb B6 into your body. 2. Next, you need to keep a hair style that makes you look the least balding. That essentially means you have two options: a) shave your entire head like Jason Statham or b) keep your hair reasonably long on the top so most of your balding scalp is covered by the longer hair. The point here is keeping a reasonably short hairstyle if you’re balding is your worst option and makes you look the most “bald”. 3. Use products to reduce the balding look of your hair. The absolute best one I can recommend is Nanogen Nanofibres, a European product that is really amazing. Google it and take a look. There are even videos demonstrating it. I will usually use some of this stuff on first dates and when I get my picture taken. It really does make you look less bald without looking weird. Take a look at it and if it looks good to you, order a small bottle of it and try it out. It makes a huge difference. The ultimate solution to balding, until medical science comes up with other options, is either A) elect to get medical hair restoration surgery or B) use a hair mesh or hair “matrix”. Medical hair restoration is a surgical procedure where they transplant individual follicles from the back of your head to the top of your head. It is not hair plugs. I have several personal friends who have had the procedure done and it

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looks 100% natural; you cannot tell anything has been done no matter how hard you look. The downside? It’s very painful, extremely expensive, and a massive hassle. It will cost you $5000 to $12000 to get it done (depending on how badly you’re balding and who you use). The recovery from the surgery is extremely painful. You’ll be in serious painful discomfort for 10 days after the surgery. In addition, your current hair will temporarily fall out, so for a few weeks after the surgery, you’re going to have to wear a hat or you’ll look like a mutant. However like I said, after all that pain and expense, it does work. A hair mesh or hair matrix (the most well known one is “Hair Club For Men”) is where they shave the top of your head but leave the sides, glue a very thin, porous mesh on the top of then your regrows, head withgrows hair that’s been matched to yours. Your hair back through the mesh, and combines with the mesh hair. It looks perfectly real, the mesh never comes off, never blows off in wind, you can swim with it, and women can touch your scalp and not tell there’s anything there. The downside? It’s expensive, though not quite as bad as the surgery. A typical mesh will cost you about $1200. Which is great, but you’ll need to go back in once or twice a month to get your hair styled and the mesh constantly adjusted. This can run you as much as $250 a month for as long as you wear the mesh. (Yikes!) However my understanding is this monthly cost includes all of your haircuts and hair colorations, shampoo, conditioner, etc. So if you factor that all in, it’s not as bad as it sounds. (I know I spend at least $80 a month on haircuts, dying my hair, hair products, etc.) I have also heard from guys who’ve had the procedure done that the mesh can get a little itchy at times, though these guys still rave about it and recommend it highly.

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Another slight downside is that a small number of people out there can tell something has been done if they’re actually looking for it and know what to look for. I’m talking about people who’ve worked in Hollywood in the makeup department or who’ve had the procedure done themselves. But hey, that’s a really big “if”. I’ve seen guys with hair meshes and I can tell you for a fact that not only can you not tell they’ve had anything done, but often their hair actually looks better and thicker than guys who’ve gotten the restoration surgery (because some of those guys can still have thinner-looking hair). Here’s the bottom line if you’re balding. If you have darker or more tanned skin and a reasonably trim face, you might as well just skip all this crap and shave your head if/when you get bald enough. Nothing wrong with that at all and for a lot of guys it looks fantastic. However, for those of you who are more chubby and/or lighter-skinned (like me), medical hair restoration or a mesh may be the way to go. I’ve talked to guys who have raved about both and recommend both procedures. I myself will definitely have one of those done very soon. (Haven’t decided which yet.) Skin

Youthful, healthy-looking skin is the key to looking young. Look at all the celebrity photos above. All those guys have great looking skin, either because of makeup or because of their skin regimen (or both). The better your skin, the better your results will be with younger women. Every man over the age of 35 who wants younger women in his life needs to have a regular daily skin regimen to ensure his skin looks healthy and youthful well into his old age.


A male skin regimen is made up of six components, applied in this order: 1. An inexpensive oil-free facial cleanser, available at any grocery store. Wash your face with this every time you shower. (Which I hope is at least once a day.) 2. A strong exfoliant to exfoliate your skin. Like the cleanser, this doesn’t need to be fancy or expensive and is available at most grocery stores. It should be strong enough to actually feel the roughness on your skin when you apply it. If you don’t, get a different exfoliant. You should exfoliate your face and neck about two to three times a week, right every after you your cleanser. Don’t exfoliate day;rinse that’soff bad forfacial your skin. 3. A good, expensive moisturizer with SPF protection. Unlike the cleanser and the exfoliant, this stuff needs to be good, expensive, high-quality stuff. You’ll have to order this over the internet or buy it at a high-end makeup counter or boutique. Make sure it’s highquality, anti-aging moisturizer with built in UVA and UVB protection from the sun. I use Clinique Superdefense SPF 25, however your skin may be different from mine. There are several types of skin (dry, oily, combination, etc). Talk to a makeup/skin expert and have them recommend a good SPF moisturizer that works best for your type of skin. Apply your moisturizer every day right after you get out of the shower while your skin is still a little moist. Make sure to get your entire face, forehead, entire front of neck, and all over your ears (front and back).

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4. A good, expensive eye moisturizer. The skin around the eyes is different than the skin on the rest of your face, thus it requires a completely different moisturizer. I use Clinique All About Eyes, but again, you may need something different based on your skin type. Apply your eye moisturizer when you apply your normal moisturizer. Make sure the get all the skin around the far corners of both your eyes with this as well, where the first wrinkles tend to form. 5. A normal, cheap moisturizer that has strong SPF protection, available at most grocery stores. This is for the backs of your hands and your elbows. Apply this liberally to the backs of your hands, backs of your fingers, and elbows right after your shower. (Technically you should apply this to your knees as well but I usually don’t. You can also apply this all over your body, but again I usually don’t; I’m really not concerned with getting wrinkles on my thighs or back.) 6. Make sure you are eating plenty of protein. One of the reasons women tend to wrinkle faster and more heavily than men is women eat less protein. You need to make damn sure your diet consists of lots of protein, preferably full-chain protein like the kind found in whey. Your skin needs protein! If you do those five things daily plus keep protein in your diet, you will be surprised how well your skin will start looking after a few days. I was looking at some photos of myself from about three years ago when I had just started my daily skin regimen, and I was shocked at how much better my skin looks now, as a man three years older!

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More importantly, throughout your life your skin will age extremely well if you get a head start on this early, as in your 30s like I did. If you’re an older guy over the age of 45 and already have obvious wrinkles, you will need to add two more items to your skin regimen: AHA cream and retinol. The above items focus on preventing future wrinkles; AHA cream and retinol clean up and repair wrinkles that are already there. Your usage of these two items completely depends on your own skin; talk to a makeup/skin expert to get their advice on how much and when to use these two items. If you actually have sun damage on your face, as in strong discolorations on your cheeks or forehead that are darker than the rest of your skin, consider getting them removed if they areoff large or$500. dark enough. usually be lasered forenough less than If they’reThey smallcan don’t worry about it (though on your next physical with your doctor I would confirm they’re aren’t cancerous). Body Hair Management

I go into the topic of body hair management in great detail in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible. I’m not going to repeat all of that here, however as an older guy, you’re going to have more hair to deal with than the younger dudes. You need to make sure that you regularly address hair in your ears and nose, on your back, the back of your neck, backs of your hands, and tops of your feet and toes, if any. How often depends on the person and how fast your hair grows. I use two of those little personal groomer tools and address my body hair once every two weeks. You may need to do so more or less often, but the point is you NEED to do this, regularly. Don’t slack off on your unattractive body

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hair like most older men do! Women, especially younger women, WILL notice and it can cost you some potential lays and/or ongoing relationships! The Bottom Line

There’s looking older and there’s looking old. Looking older is good. Looking old is bad. Younger women are attracted to older men. They do NOT want to fuck old men. Get what I’m saying? The bottom line to personal appearance in terms of gaming younger women is dating a much older man is already a stretch for her. You make this stretch “longer” and more apparent if you look old. You want to avoid looking old and focus on older as much as possible to make it easier for her to say yes to you.

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Chapter Six Where And How To Meet Younger Women There are many places and contexts in which you can meet younger women even if you have no younger women in your normal day-to-day life. I’m like most guys my age. I work in a business where the vast majority of people are my age or older. Rarely are there any hot 19 year-old girls in the places I work. My social circle (outside of my seduction / dating life) is the same. It’s mostly made up of middle aged married people, not young hotties. That means you’re going to have to go out of your way to meet younger women. If you’re familiar at all with the seduction community / dating industry already, I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know, and perhaps you may already have at least a basic handle on the different ways and methods to meet women. Whenever we talk about meeting women (of any age), we have to talk about game styles. Every method of possibly meeting and/or seducing a woman happens in one of four different game style categories: daygame, night game, social circle game, and online game. There may be a few more categories you can think of but I’m betting they’ll all fall into one of those primary four categories.

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In this chapter I’m going to overview all four game styles in terms of older men meeting much younger women. I’ll go into detail regarding some of the styles in later chapters. Your mission is to choose one style of game from the four types and focus 100% on that style until you get good at meeting younger women using that style. A common mistake guys make is focusing on many (or all!) of the four game styles at once. No. Pick one, focus on it, and get good at it. Then once you’re getting laid all you like from that one style, if you still want to try a new style, then go ahead. This is exactly what I did and it’s the fastest way to get from “zero to good”. Daygame

Daygame is where you meet women during the day in normal places where one would not be expected to “pick up chicks”. That would include the grocery store, mall, bookstore, or even out on the street (“street game”, the hardest type of daygame there is). I have met and had sex with VYW using daygame, and did it for a while until I shifted my focus completely to online dating (“online game”). Daygame is a great way to meet women, especially if staying up late in the evening is not an option for you. In terms of meeting younger women via daygame, there’s really only one place you need to worry about: the local mall. Almost every successful pickup I’ve had with a younger woman via daygame was at a mall.

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Second to malls, general downtown areas are also good, especially during the summer months but year-round any time after about 4:00pm on weekdays and noon on weekends. You probably already know the general areas in the city you live where younger people spend time. These can be just as target-rich as your local mall, if not more so. The downside to downtown daygame versus mall daygame in terms of meeting VYW is that when “hanging out downtown”, younger women will often be accompanied by younger men. At the mall, this is often less of an issue. We’ll be discussing VYW daygame in detail in chapters eight and nine. Night Game

Night game is meeting women during evening hours (usually late evening hours) at dance clubs, bars, lounges, and similar. This is the most popular style of “game” in the seduction community / dating industry by far. If you’re an older guy, I’m going to assume that night game is not the ideal style for you for the reasons I’m about to describe. I personally avoid night game for a number of reasons, some of which may apply to you and some may not: 1. Successful night game, where you are actually getting laid, usually requires you to stay out late into the evening, well past midnight. The problem is, I work the next morning. Staying out to 2am on a Tuesday night in order to get laid when I have client meetings the next morning is not a good idea for my financial life (or overall life). 2. I’m too old for most night game venues. Once you hit your mid 30s you’re going to start looking a little out

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of place at most dance clubs. This becomes a hard reality once you’re well into your mid 40s. The exception would be if you’re a musician, celebrity, movie producer, or other “personality”. Am I generalizing? Sure. Is it possible to be a well dressed, confident 49 year-old and walk into a club and have sex with some 22 year old girl? Sure it is, and I’ve seen things like this happen in larger, hipper cities, especially if the man is really good-looking. However in my opinion that’s still an uphill battle and there are much easier ways to attract VYW into your life. 3. I don’t like the club atmosphere. I hate the loud music, big male sweaty bodies pressed up against me, and drunk people screaming at me (happily or angrily makes no difference to me) and the drunken morons stepping on my feet or poking me with their elbows. You may love the energy of the club atmosphere, and if you do that’s great, but I can’t stand it. Since I’m always dating VYW they sometimes drag me to the clubs and I will go just to be nice guy, but you’ll never seem me going to the clubs with the objective to lay new women. As you can probably tell, on the overall, night game (dance club game in particular) is probably your lest effective route to meet and lay VYW as an older man. I would not even consider dance clubs an option if you are over age 35 unless you are one of those usual exceptions I described above. Bars and lounges are a little different, especially those that don’t blast loud music. If you’re a guy who enjoys the bar/lounge atmosphere, there is nothing wrong with using those kinds of venues as a way to meet younger women. Of

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course you’re only going to be dealing with women age 21 and older (usually!). But hey, if you manage to attract and lay a cute 25 year-old you met at a bar, I have a feeling you won’t be complaining. For all of these reasons and many more, we won’t be going into night game in detail as a specific style of game (nor do I have sufficient experience in this area to render advice anyway). However most of the techniques in this book set can be applied to club game or (even better) bar/lounge game if you choose to use those venues to meet VYW. Social Circle Game

Social circle game is meeting and laying women you already know or have recently met via other people you already know. (“College game” would be one of the many subsets of social circle game.) This style of game has huge advantages as well as huge drawbacks. The advantages are the women are right there. You don’t need to “go out and get them” like with other game styles. If you have a large social circle and/or you’re a very outgoing social guy, you will often have new women coming into your life, rather than you going to them. This is great. The disadvantage is the women in your social circle already know you, the good and the bad, or at least they will be close friends with women who already know all of your dirty laundry. This is a serious drawback, especially if you’ve had any bad experiences or drama with other people in your social circle (and almost always this is the case if younger men or women are concerned). My general advice for guys on social circle game is to treat it in two stages.

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Stage one would be the “bleed it dry stage”. This is when you make a list of women and then use your skills to try to have with everyfor attractive unmarried woman in your socialsex circle except those where it would be completely inappropriate to do so. Right after my divorce many years back, I made a list of every fuckable woman I knew. Most of them were in my own age group. Then I went to work. I was able to have sex with almost all of them. It took me about eight months to get to all of them and it was a hell of a ride. The problem was at the end of those eight months and I had exhausted my list, there were no other women to fuck . Therefore, social circle game was no longer useful to me. I had entered the second stage, the “forced growth stage”. Once you deplete your social circle, you need to go out and add new women to your social circle, or else you’re done. If you have hobbies or work in an industry that constantly supplies you with new attractive women, or if you’re currently going to college or have a similar situation, than that’s fine. Likely you’re not in any of those categories. This if youexpanding want social circle game to work, need to bemeans constantly your social circle. This isyou a topic beyond the scope of this book. However! There is one very effective way to get laid with VYW constantly, using a certain type of social circle game, and that’s “referral game”. It’s something you can do once you’re in a relationship (even a casual one) with a VYW. It’s so powerful and so important I’ve devoted an entire chapter to it (chapter thirteen).

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Online Game

If you’ve read my other books, you know its approach no secret is that most of the women I have sex with via cold using online dating. So much so that I have two ebooks entirely devoted to the topic of online dating. This applies to women of all ages, including VYW. I have had sex with and established relationships with many VYW over the years using online game. You should strongly consider online game is a key source for VYW in your life, unless you wish to focus on daygame (which is also a good method). Meeting and seducing VYW via online dating sites requires a different tack than with older women. We’ll cover online game with VYW in detail in the very next chapter. Choose One

I’ll say it again. Pick ONE of these four styles and master it. Unless you are already very pick-up experienced and know how to get laid, don’t go crazy and try to do everything at once.

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Chapter Seven Online Dating With Younger Women First off, if you choose online dating as your main method of attracting VYW into your life, you should get a copy of my two online dating ebooks, How To Fill Your Calendar With Dates Using Online Dating and Improve Your Online Dating Results. I would also highly recommend Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Fast As Possible since it’s directly applicable to online dating once you get a girl out on a date with you. All three of those books will show you exactly how to get laid using online dating, and almost everything in there applies to younger women as well. Almost. What I’m going to cover in this chapter is the differences between attracting VYW online as an older man vs. doing so with women older than age 23 and/or closer to your own age. More Numbers Required

I can tell you for a fact after years of testing and tracking online dating results, if you’re a man over age 30, as soon as you start sending email openers to women age 18 to 23 your response rates drop, sometimes greatly. This is also true if you’re emailing women in their mid to late 20s and you’re a guy in his late 40s or above (though the drop is not nearly as bad). This is normal and to be expected. Remember, 30% of the VYW you’re emailing are type ones and are going to be disgusted soon asor they seecool howyour old profile you are,is.no matter how goodas you look how Another

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50% are going to be type threes, most of whom are much more likely to respond to guys their own age before, and instead of, responding to you. That leaves who the 20% of type in twos smallmarket handful type threes are actually yourand target of of the possibilities. And not all of these women are going to email you back either, for various reasons. Now don’t despair. I’ve had sex with lots women in this age group, starting when I was 36 years old, using online dating and you can too. All this means is that you will have to send openers to more women in the VYW category than the other categories in order to achieve results. As a man in my late 30’s, my personal response rate for women age 18 to 23 is usually around 8%, sometimes as high as 19%. If you’re a better looking guy than me or take better photos (both of which are extremely possible), yours may be higher than this. The good news is that as long as you send out a lot of openers, this is more than enough women to work with. Under normal conditions, I will send out 15 to 25 email openers once or twice a week for a few weeks in a row in order to get plenty of first dates. If I’m focusing 100% on VYW, I raise this to 30 to 40 emails once or twice a week in additionIto someonline openers heretime. and there to women seeshooting who areout actually at the My stats have shown that response rates and profile view rates are higher if you send openers to women who are online the moment you send them, and VYW aren’t any different. Bottom line, be prepared to send out more openers than you are typically used to and expect lower response rates. It’s normal and still very workable. Don’t let it concern you. For you much older guys , as in guys in your mid 40s or 50s,

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for women as young as 18 or 19, simply raise your target age to 24 to 26 year-olds focusing purely on them (and going slightly older if you like). I can tell you for a fact that women in that age group have much less of a problem dating guys in their late 40s or 50s legal I personally know several menthan age do 50+ whoteenagers. have girlfriends in their mid 20s, many of whom met them via online dating. Ignore Negative Responses From The Type Ones

As we talked about back in chapter twp, the type ones who receive your opener are going to be disgusted, perhaps even angry. You are going to receive some negative responses from some of these girls. “Dude what the fuck are you thinking I’m 19!” and similar. If you’re getting a response like that, she’s a type one. And what do we do with type ones? Ignore them and move on. Delete her email, don’t give it another thought, and keep on sending out openers. Believe me, for every chick who sends you a nasty response online there will be another one just as young, just as hot, who’s going to be excited you sent her an email. Do not let the few negative responses you get sway you. They’re type ones. They’re meaningless. More Time Before Date Pitch As you might imagine, being a much older man talking to VYW online requires a little more care and a little more hand-holding than with older women. Under normal conditions, you want to qualify a new prospect online then pitch the first date as fast as possible, since going into conversation-mode online with a gal just raises the odds of you suddenly not hearing from her ever again.

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Online, this approach often does not work with VYW and older guys, especially with the type three girls. You usually will have to exert a little more care and a little less forcefulness, even if the gal you’re talking to is a type two. Of oftenmaking you won’t which category she’s in atcourse, this point, all ofeven thisknow caution a little more apt. The best way to do this, if you’re able, is to exchange three or four messages then simply IM her on the dating site’s IM feature. Have a very light conversation there for about 20 minutes or so, then lightly pitch the concept of meeting up and hanging out. The Younger Woman Transcripts ebook will show you exactly what to do and not do when having IM conversations with younger women online, with specific examples of how I did it. Low-Pressure First Date Venue

Do NOT use the word “date” when pitching or scheduling the first meetup with a VYW online. At this point, you’re not sure if she’s a type two or type three, and you don’t want to push the envelope. Even if she’s a type two, you may be the first older man she’s ever met in a dating context in her life. As I talk about in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible, none of your first dates should be actual “dinner dates”. Normally you want to meet up at a cool bar for just 60 minutes, perhaps buy her a drink and yourself one, then get the hell out of there and schedule the second date where sex is going to occur. With VYW, your first date needs to be even more casual and low-pressure than that. Not to mention the fact that she’s

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very likely going to be under the legal drinking age, which precludes the possibility of meeting at a bar. You need to fun”. frameVery it as low not-pressure. a “date” but and “having Nojust big “hanging deal. Veryout” low-risk. Meeting up with a man on for the first time is scary enough. Meeting up with an older guy is even scarier. You need to make this as easy and as safe for her as possible. The majority of first-date locations for VYW that I had sex with whom I met via online dating are/were malls, classy delis, and bookstore coffee shops, in about that order of effectiveness. If weather permits, outdoor parks also work well, not only for first dates but for second dates too. Malls are usually the best place to meet up with a VYW. Malls are fun places to younger girls, but more importantly, they are familiar places. You never have to twist a 19 year old girl’s arm to go to a damn mall. Most girls this age live there anyway. The best place in the mall for a meet is the food court. The second best would be at a bookstore coffee shop within the mall. her In either case you candone eventalking. get up and walk around with a bit once you’re Another extremely effective place for a first online date is a classy deli. Not a standard deli, but a nice one. Check around your local area for some nice delis. Sometimes upscale stores like Nordstrom’s have small, quiet, classy delis inside and these work very well. The third best option would be your standard coffee shop like Starbucks. Consider this your fallback option of a mall or classy deli is unavailable to you. There’s nothing wrong with coffee shops per se, but they don’t DHV you as much

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as a mall or classy deli. Also, they tend to put more pressure on her since a coffee shop isn’t quite as “fun” as a mall. People are also getting to the point where they know that the coffee shop is the forif meeting on online first dates. We want to “default” avoid thisplace stigma at all possible. Another good option for first or second dates, if you can make it work is parks. I have had several first and second dates with VYW at parks that have resulted in sex. Sounds crazy, but trust me, it works. Of course, there are some logistics involved with parks. The weather needs to be nice, they can’t close to early if you’re there in the evening, you don’t want them too crowded, etc. Regardless, they’re certainly an option. Odd Hours

Unlike older women, many younger women work or go to school at odd hours and are often only available to meet at late hours. I’ve had many first dates with VYW that were at 10pm, 11pm, sometimes even midnight. Be open to this, because many women will want to meet you at those hours. It will not be the norm, but younger women, VYW especially, will ask you to meet up at odd times more often than you might think. My personal rule that I talked about back in chapter six, of of “not having to stay out too late for sex” still applies. If you keep the first date to under an hour (which if you’re following my system you should be), meeting her at 11pm or similar is usually no problem. This also means you know of several convenient locations that are open that late. Check around and make a note of at least three different 24-hour restaurants in your general area. That way, when that cute 19 year-old wants to meet up at 10pm tomorrow night but has no idea where, you’ll know

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exactly where to go (and remember, late night bars are not an option for women this young). Social Networking

Younger women love, eat, and breathe Facebook. It’s the blood that runs through their veins. Many of them are also heavy users of Twitter, YouTube, Tumblr, Flickr, and Formspring. If you have no idea what these things are you need to get on the internet, learn, and get up to speed fast. You don’t necessarily have to be a user of these services, but you should be reasonably familiar with them. You do not want to be a date with a hot 19 year-old and ask “What’s Tumblr?” A decent Facebook is an absolute must. Likely you already have a Facebook page but if you don’t, make one right now and start making it look good. Though it’s not in open use at the time of this writing, getting on Google+ is also a very good idea. MySpace is not mandatory but there are still millions of VYW who still use MySpace and if you want to go full-bore with this, having a decent MySpace is also very important. What do I mean by “cool” Facebook page? To summarize: • You have many pictures on your page of yourself doing interesting things. Travelling, having fun, parties, outdoors, indoors, etc. The pictures should DHV you. • You have a wall that has lots of positive, funny, witty comments from you with responses from your friends, preferably hot women. • You have at least 100 friends in your friends list. Many VYW have over 700 friends, some have well

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over 1000. If you have less than 100, it will look strange. If you’re starting from scratch, send out friend requests to absolutely everyone you know as well as the people who know them. Getting to 100 Facebook friends isn’t very difficult. One note I would add is, in my opinion at least, you don’t want too many friends on your Facebook page either (unless you are a public figure or have a very public job). People are starting to figure out that people with hundreds and hundreds of friends on Facebook are often people with no real life. You don’t want to be perceived that way. (As of this writing I have about 170 Facebook friends and I consider that just about right.) This not a book on how to have a cool Facebook page but thoseisguidelines above are 80% of it. You should get into the habit of adding every VYW you meet to your Facebook page, whether successful with her or not. I have laid many VYW that I was initially unsuccessful with but who I re-acquired later via Facebook. It’s an invaluable tool.

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Chapter Eight Daygame With Younger Women Part One: Laying The Groundwork Daygame is an extremely effective way to meet younger women. Younger women have less ASD and less social inhibitions than older women, and are often very pleasant to talk to during cold approach, even to the point of playful, even if they just met you. I’ve had sex with several VYW just by meeting them at malls or downtown areas. Later I decided to shift my focus to mostly online dating (remember my advice earlier about choosing just one style of game and getting good at it), but meeting and laying VYW via daygame did work and occasionally I still do it. These days I consider daygame a supplement to my online game (since I’ve already mastered meeting VYW via online game). A quick aside here. Daygame is a huge topic that easily warrants an entire book on its own (and there are many books out there on it already). There are many different ways to do it. This is not a book on daygame, this is book on younger women and older men. Therefore, in this chapter and the next, I will only be talking about daygame as it applies to older man and VYW specifically. That means meeting younger women in a non-creepy, fun way, getting their Facebook information, then contacting them later for an actual meetup. I’m not saying this is the only way older men can bring much younger women into their lives via real-life cold approach; I’m sure there are probably many others. I’m saying this is the way that I know works.

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Daygame Pros and Cons

Likely your style of choice is going to end up being either online game or daygame. This is because, as I discussed earlier, night game is not an option for most older men seeking much younger women (however if you really want to make a go at VYW night game, please don’t let me stop you) and social circle game is usually not something that is long-term sustainable. Online game and daygame are both good. Though I prefer online personally, daygame may make more sense for a lot of guys. There are a pros and cons to each. Here’s a quick rundown of the pro/con comparison between online dating and daygame in terms of older men and younger women. Pros of Daygame Over Online

• You get exactly what you want. When you approach a woman via daygame, you see exactly how she looks in real life. There is no approximations or guesswork like there is with online game. • You can establish rapport much more quickly. Many guys are much more compelling in real life than online with a profile. I am certainly in that category. If you have a compelling look or personality or presence that does not convey well over online, daygame is likely the place for you. • It’s more “fun” for more social guys. If you have a more social personality type, daygame is going to be much more enjoyable and less tedious for you than the online stuff. Really extroverted guys often tend to hate online game.

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Cons of Daygame Vs. Online

• It’s more scary. It takes serious courage to walk up to strange women and start running game. Many guys can do it. Many guys can do it, but do it badly. Many guys can’t,oforthis refuse Online dating requires very little typetooflearn. courage since all you’re doing is sending out emails. • It’s not nearly as schedule-friendly. This is the main reason why I chose online game over daygame years ago. Online game you can do literally whenever you want, at any hour of the day, anywhere in the world, and you don’t have to go anywhere or even get dressed or take a shower. Daygame, no. You have to get ready and then go somewhere. You can only do it at certain hours. Etc. • It’s harder to put in large amounts of numbers very quickly. I can sit down and email out 30 - 40 openers to new women, all of whom I find attractive, and do it in less than 60 to 90 minutes. I’ve never seen anyone put in these kinds of numbers in such a small period of time using daygame unless you’re literally a maniac approaching every woman you see, including the ugly and average-looking ones. However, this disadvantage can be mitigated if you don’t mind having sex with more average-looking women or if your positive response rate from daygame is extremely high because you’re such a compelling guy. Once could argue that though the number of openers is higher with online game, the response rate will often be lower. So keep that in mind. I’ll repeat that online game and daygame are both very good ways to meet younger women. The choice you make is

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going to be largely dependant on your personality, lifestyle, and schedule. Choose one style to focus on and get good at and consider the other styles something to occasionally dip your toe into. Consistent Focus

The big thing with daygame guys screw up on is that if you want to get good at it, it’s not something you can just randomly do whenever you feel like it. This kind of activity level is for guys who are already very good at getting laid. If you’re in the learning stages and daygame is your weapon of choice, you need to make a concerted, constant effort. It is my strong opinion that if you want to get results with daygame, you need to be out there at least three times a week, several hours at a time . We’ll discuss the best times to do daygame in a minute, but whenever you choose to do it, you must put “sarging” time in your schedule, at least three times a week, and keep those appointments with yourself just like you were meeting with your boss or an important customer. You will not get good at daygame by just doing it whenever you feel like it. When I was focused on daygame I was out in the malls every other day, even on days when I didn’t feel like it. Best Times For Daygaming VYW The best times and locales for meeting VYW during the day are as follows. Malls

Malls are hands-down the best places to meet VYW for obvious reasons. Most of my VYW lays via daygame resulted from a mall meet. I will still occasionally meet

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women at malls in my normal day-to-day activities, especially during the summer when younger women are out of school. There aretimes VYW all hours themost mallstoare open, from, but the best toatgomalls whenatthere are the choose thereby using your time the best, are these: Non-summer months: Tuesdays – Thursdays, 6:30pm-8pm Saturdays – Sundays, 1pm-5pm Summer months: Tuesdays – Thursdays, 1pm-7pm Saturdays – Sundays, 1pm-4pm In addition, during the Monday to Friday weekday, especially during summer months, the food court of the mall will be jam-packed with women between noon and 1:30pm. In malls that are large enough, often you can just work the food court during the lunch hour and forget about the rest of the mall. Downtown Congregation Areas

Every downtown has one many areas people congregate.area It could be aorcity park, citywhere squareyounger or similar. There will almost always be large amounts of people hanging around, talking to friends, eating, or shopping. As I describe this you’re probably already visualizing where this place (or places) is in your city. If you’re not aware of where this place is, I promise you your city has one (or several), unless you live in a small town. Ask around or drive around and find out where this place is.

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Best times to meet VYW at downtown congregation areas are: Non-summer months:1pm–7pm. Monday – Thursday, (Why not weekends? Younger women are around, but often they’re “away” on weekends doing something else.) Summer months: Any day of the week when the weather is good, any time after 11am. College Campuses

I have no personal experience in meeting younger women at college campuses, but I know for a fact these are fantastic places to meet them; other men I know have had much success there. The best places in campuses are college libraries at just about any time of day and outside in college park areas, especially when the weather is nice. If this is an area of interest for you, it would behoove you to pick the largest college campus near youdays and of scout it out to at different times of the day and different the week get an idea for when the most women are available. In all seriousness, you could make an entire daygame “career” at just your local college campus. Places Not Suitable For Concentrated Daygame Efforts

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their mothers or boyfriends. Think about it. How many VYW do you know who like to go to grocery stores by themselves or with girlfriends? You see my point. You often see a similar dynamic in coffee shops and bookstores. Daytime bars and restaurants with attached bars are fine and these places are all great for meeting more professional-level younger women, especially those age 24 to 27. VYW won’t be there.

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Chapter Nine Daygame With Younger Women Part Two: How-To You’ve determined where and when you’re going to enact your VYW daygame efforts. Now it time to get crackin’. Your Appearance

Review chapter five in this book and if you have it, chapter seven in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible, and check yourself from head-to-toe before you go out. You need to look your best. This is not only important for your odds of women being attracted to you, but for your own confidence as well. Your Mental Frame

Review chapter three and then do a conscious mental checkup on yourself. Confident. Outcome Independent. Funny. Relaxed. Non-needy. Non-creepy. Your frame must be well defined and crystal clear in these areas or very little of this will work for you. Your Objectives For The Day

Before you leave your home, you must have clear objectives for today’s daygame excursion. They must be defined in terms of specific actions or results. Either is okay depending on your level of daygame skill.

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If you’re brand new at cold approaching women, younger or otherwise, some valid goals would be the following: • Say “Hi” to ten younger women who you find very hot, even if they’re with friends. • Start up at least two conversations. If you are a little more experienced with cold approaching or not experienced but are a more social or confident guy, some valid goals for the day might be: • “Pull the trigger” on at least two women by asking for their contact information. • Open at least three younger women whom you find REALLY attractive. (Since often it’s easier to open women you consider uglier or average-looking.) Once you get the hang of this, or if you’re already experienced with cold approaching women in general, your goal should be something like: • Do not leave the mall until you have three phone numbers or emails or Facebook addresses from younger women. • Do not leave the mall until you’ve had at least three quality conversations with younger women, including kino. You get the point. What you do not want to do is “just go out and meet women”. That’s not an objective. It’s much easier to waffle when your “goal” is to just “go out and talk to people”. If this is your scheduled daygame time, you need practice, progression, and (eventually) results. Even if your goal is to just say “Hi” to 10 hot girls, that’s better than a “goal” just “going out to talk to people”.

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The Opener

There is a hell of a lot of written in the seduction community / dating industry about openers and pickup lines. Frankly, guys make way too much out of it. The best way I’ve found to open women during daygame is either: 1. Ask her a question about something she’s wearing. It can be clothing, shoes, jewelry, a hat, whatever. Or 2. Ask her a question about whatever it is you’re both looking at in the store. These two things are simple, straightforward, natural, and non-threatening. No silly pickup lines or technique. I have had sex with many VYW by just asking about the barrette in her hair or about the sunglasses we were both looking at in the store. What I typically do is play “fashion dumb”. I’ll ask “newb” questions about female fashion. Which is easy since I really don’t know much about it. Examples: “Where did you buy that hat?” “Is that hair tie made out of silk?” “So, how can you tell which of these sunglasses are for men and which are for women?” (I’ve used this one many times.

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It always starts a funny conversation, namely because most sunglasses are unisex.) “Hey, I need a woman’s opinion. The brown one or the black one?“ “Those shoes are funky. Where did you get them?” You get the point. These openers aren’t fancy. They may even sound stupid. That’s why they work. They’re very non-threatening (something you need to keep in mind as an older guy talking to a VYW). Also, women love to talk about clothing and love to help “clueless” guys out about these things. The Conversation

Years ago I used to use a lot of canned techniques in my conversations during daygame. Over time I learned that just having a normal conversation was just as effective in terms of actually getting laid. So I don’t really do canned routines any more. I just have a brief conversation, get her contact information, and leave. The best way to do this is to talk for about a minute on whatever clothing topic youher. started yourthe opener, make an observation about Startinwith wordsthen “You seem…”. “You seem really happy. Is it your birthday or something?” “You seem very educated. Are you in college?” “You seem pissed. Did you get in a fight with your BFF today or something?”

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Then just roll into a very casual, fun, brief conversation. Remember your frames from chapter three. Remember to be confident, outcome independent, non-needy, and most importantly, non-creepy! Also, be as relaxed as you can and be funny. Make sure she laughs, at least a little, several times in the conversation. The Contact Close

You only need to talk for perhaps one or two minutes. Of course, if she seems fun and into you, talk longer. But you don’t need to, so don’t feel like you do. Once she’s laughed a few times or it’s clear from her body language that she likes you or is comfortable with you, it’s time to get her contact info and get out of there. All you need to say is something like “Hey, I’ve got to go. Are you on Facebook?” If she’s a VYW, of course she’ll say yes. (If you are outside the United States, use whatever popular social networking site women use in your area.) When she says yes, just say “Cool. What’s your email on there?” Then just put it in your phone, or write it down, or whatever. Lastly, smile big and say something like “It’s been nice meeting you. You’re very different.” Then leave. Boom, done. Nothing fancy or whiz-bang. There may be times asking for her number to text her may be better than asking for her Facebook. Conversely you can skip the whole Facebook thing and just ask for her email. Anything works, but I’ve found that Facebook is the least dangerous and most “fun” option for VYW. Feel free to experiment and do what you are most comfortable with.

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The Half-Routine

Daygame, like all forms of game, is a numbers game. Most of the younger women you contact close will never respond to you in any meaningful way. This is normal. Once you get comfortable with meeting women this way, there are several techniques to raise the odds that when you get back to her (Facebook or text or email or whatever) she’ll actually respond to you. It’s what I call the “half routine”. It’s an old technique that started with the oldschool pick artist Style. It’s one of those more canned routines that I avoid these days, but I have used this myself and it’s still very effective (sometimes the oldest techniques work best). Years ago when Style was teaching this stuff, guys would complain that they could get phone numbers, but women would never call them back. Style said that this was because they never gave her a compelling reason to talk to them again. They were just being a fun guy, and often this is not enough. It’s better if she has a specific reason to contact you again, beyond you being cool or attractive or funny. One of the easiest ways to do this is to run a routine on her, but only run the first half of it. Halfway through, you’ve “gotta go” and you contact close her to “continue the rest later”. The actual routine doesn’t matter. It can be the running patterns, “The Cube”, reading her palm, “The Lying Game” (Google these routines if you want more info on them), or even just something simple like saying “I need to tell you something I just noticed about you. But I need to go, I’ll have to tell you later.” Whatever. Stop midway, ask for her Facebook, and tell her you’ll continue this with her later.

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This really, really works well with younger girls. The point is you give her a reason to hear back from you . If she has a reason, the odds of you getting a response when you contact later go way, way up. Often she will be texting you to “Hurry up and tell me what you were going to tell me!” Hired Guns

“Hired guns” is the term used for women who actually work at the establishments you daygame in. If you see a cute 20 year-old working behind the counter at the lotions kiosk, do you talk to her and get her contact info? My general answer is yes provided you will not be hitting that exact same location again often at that same time of day. For example, if you hit up the cute girl at the sunglasses store at the and things go well (orfriend they do go well but youmall, never hear fromdon’t her when you request her, or whatever), then when you’re back there a few days later daygaming again, well, things might be a little awkward for you. If it’s clear this is not going to happen or it’s clear you will not be at her exact location again soon, then yes, go ahead and hit her up! Often these girls are much more easy to talk to since that’s what they’re trained to do. Plus, many times these girls are really, really bored and are dying to talk to someone. Bonus Technique: Want a really easy, stupid way to talk to cute girls at a mall and get phone numbers? Go into the makeup sections of large stores, ask for some man-makeup, and sit in one of those makeup chairs and have them put some of that crap on you. While she does it, talk her up and get her contact info. This is a great way to practice talking to women especially if you are new at this. Back when I was new to daygame I used to do this all the time. I got a lot

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of good practice as well as some email addresses and phone numbers. In Closing

Obviously I’m justthe scratching surface of daygame here.to I’m just covering basics in the terms of older men talking younger gals in a daygame setting. If daygame is your method of choice for meeting VYW, it would behoove you to research the topic of daygame further, keeping in mind that regardless of what you learn, you need to keep the older man / younger women frames of confidence, outcome independence, non-neediness and non-creepiness.

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Chapter Ten First Dates and Day2s In this chapter we’re going to talk specifically about what to do and not do when you actually have a VYW away from her friends and right in front of you, either on a first date or a “day2”, meaning the second time you hang out with her after meeting her in person for the first time. In Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible I go over the first date in detail, however this chapter I’m going to focus on the differences you will have to be aware of when face-to-face with a VYW vs. a woman closer to your age. It should be no surprise by now that I’m going to tell you to review chapter three for the key frames to keep in mind and chapter five to make sure you look your best. If you look dumpy, or old, or nerdy, you’re going to lose major points. If you’re acting needy or creepy, you’re out, no matter how good you look. Make sure you have both areas covered as best as you are able before you meet up with her. The Location

As we talked about in chapter seven, you’re going to have your first dates at either a mall, classy deli, coffee shop, or park. The point is to keep the location casual and lowpressure. If she’s legal drinking age, a cool bar is also a fantastic place to meet her. Not a restaurant, a bar. A bar attached to a restaurant is fine as long as you make damn sure you and her

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hang out in the bar area, NOT the restaurant area where the tone will be more “date-like”. Make sure the bar is cool and not rowdy. Not a crappy bar, and not a loud sports bar. It should be a cool, modern bar. The cooler the better. The First Three Minutes

Unlike other women you’ve met up with on a date, the younger woman you’re about to meet up with will likely be very nervous during the first few minutes especially if she’s a VYW. This is normal and you need to expect this. More importantly, you need to diffuse this nervousness in her as fast as possible. If all she’s thinking about how nervous she is, she will not be thinking about what a great guy you are, and you two aren’t going to get anywhere. The best way to reduce or eliminate her nervousness is to do two things: 1. Don’t be nervous yourself. Yes, I realize that’s easier said than done, especially if you’re new to this stuff. You still need to put yourself into a frame of mind where you are as relaxed as possible. Make sure your mind is clear. Make sure you’ve had plenty to eat and have drank plenty of water before the date. Make sure you’ve had a good eight hours of sleep the night before (that’s important!). Make sure you are walking tall and straight, and are dressed in a way that builds your confidence. If you’re still feeling nervous after all of that, but a big dumb smile on your face and hum your favorite song to yourself as you walk to the date location. Yes it sounds dumb, but it works.

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Most importantly, you need to get into your head that this is just one girl in a ocean full of girls who would love to meet you and be with a man just like you. If it works with her, great. If not, that’s great too, since it’s just more practice for when you meet the next one. Say to yourself: It’s no big deal. Because guess what? It isn’t. 2. As soon as you meet her, act like you’re already old friends. I really mean this in a literal way. Just say “Hey” and start right in talking to her like you’ve known each other for a year. When you read the Younger Woman Case Studies book, you’ll see how often I do this and how amazingly effective it is. If you do this, you will be shocked at how well it works. You’ll seeI her tenseon body relax in aall matter minutes. do with firstlanguage dates with VYW the of time and it works every single time. Fast. This means your tone of voice is like that of a casual friend, not a stranger meeting her for the first time. This means your body language is relaxed, almost lazy. This means you’re not saying things like “Hello. How are you?” because that’s not what friends say to each other. I hope you get this because it’s key. Just say “Hey”, sit down, and start talking. The faster she gets comfortable with you, the higher odds of you laying her. It’s a one-to-one ratio. Women simply can NOT have sex with men they aren’t comfortable with no matter how attractive they may be, and this goes double for VYW and older men.

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Dialog

In terms of what VYW like to talk about, I’ve found there are two distinct types of girls: “shallows” and “singulars”. Shallows are girls who talk about vacuous stuff for hours on end. These are the girls who will spend 20 minutes talking about their hair, like the gal I talked about back in chapter one. They love to talk about things like music, famous people, parties, makeup, getting drunk, and hot guys. Deep topics bore them quickly. That does not necessarily mean shallows are dumb, though some are. Many of them are extremely intelligent with high IQs and even higher social intelligence. It just means they like to discuss a wide array of shallow topics that directly impact their lives as younger women. Shallows tend to be fun, fast talkers. They switch topics often and laugh a lot. The best thing to do with a shallow is to just let her talk (which frankly you should do with all women on a first date). Stay upbeat and match her vocal tonality and speed. Be funny and make her laugh a lot, which should be easy. Don’t try to get her into any superdeep conversations about any deep topics. Keep the conversation fun and light. Singulars are very different. Singulars are VYW who have one “key” issue that they love to get very deep into. Every singular has a different “topic” they will talk about for hours and hours on end. It could be relationships, or it could be fantasy novels, or it could be acting, or it could be travel…it could be one of many things. Whatever it is, that’s her “thing”, and she’ll love to talk about it forever and get deeper into it than you ever thought possible.

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Singulars tend to be more moody, shy, and quiet than shallows. They also tend to be very smart. It’s much easier to engage in a conversation with a singular since she’ll automatically focus on her one topic. However, you’d better be on your toes, because if she senses that you’re not as smart or perceptive as her, she’s going to disqualify you as “not my type”. That doesn’t mean you need to know anything about her topic (though if you do you’ll score some major points and increase the odds of a lay significantly). You just need to demonstrate that you’re an intelligent guy with some deep thoughts. Talking About Sex And Relationships

One of my core, tried-and-true techniques is I always eventually start talking about sex and relationships on a first date and with is no different. The easiest way to younger do this iswomen to just this ask her about her last boyfriend, assuming she doesn’t bring it up on her own which she likely will. Do not be surprised at the immature or even stupid situations she describes to you about her past relationships. She’s a younger woman and this kind of stuff is part of her experience. She may go on and on complaining about something that was clearly her fault or something very minor in a past relationship. Conversely, she may tell you about how inexperienced she is, and that she’s (for example) only slept with one man in her entire life. Either of these kinds of extremes are possible, so be prepared for them and don’t let them phase you. No matter what you hear, never get on a high horse and disparage her about anything she tells you unless you’re clearly being sarcastic (and are very comfortable with sarcasm…otherwise skip it). As always, just relax and go with the flow and keep her talking.

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Kino

It’s important that you touch her. Her hands, her arms, her hair, even her legs and her face if you can. As you’re talking together, either just touch her hands or even tell her “Give me your hand for a second”. Remember, VYW have far, far less ASD than any other women out there and are also extremely complaint in the face of a confident older man. She will comply with your requests to touch her hands, arms, etc. Sometimes I will even say “lean over a little” and then I will touch her hair. Men don’t realize that hair is a huge erogenous zone for women. Touch it! Don’t Kiss!

I’ve you’re not already familiar with my dating system, the basic structure is to meet up on a quick and casual first date, keep the date to an hour or less, then meet up on the second date and go right to having sex as quickly as possible. I have had sex with numerous women of all ages and have been doing this for many years. It works. It works just as well for younger women. If you’re the kind of guy who is experienced in doing “SNLs” or Single Night Lays where you have sex right on the first date, that’s fine and you’re welcome to go for it, but that’s not the system I teach. I have an extremely high success rate for having sex with women on the second date, and this includes VYW. This system means that on the first date, you talk about relationships and sex, you kino her, but you do NOT kiss her or get sexual beyond basic touching. This is doubleimportant for much younger women and older men. When

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she walks away from your first date together you want her excited to be with you again, not regretting that she “just kissed a guy she doesn’t even know!”. Are there exceptions to every rule? Sure. There have been a small handful of VYW I did make out with on the first date who I later laid on the second (or sometimes third) date. If you start dating a lot of VYW, eventually you’ll probably run into one or two where the sexual fires are white-hot between you from the very beginning. However the vast majority of VYW I’ve had sex with had sex with me on the second date after a first date of no kissing. It’s a very reliable, repeatable system. So don’t kiss her on the first date unless it’s clear she’s begging for it. When the date is over, give her a big hug and tell her you’ve got to run but you’ll text her later. For the second date, tell her you’re going to hang out at your place. That is where you’ll have sex. Because of the utter lack of ASD, you’ll be surprised how fast and how easily it happens. If she balks at meeting up at your house for the second date, just meet somewhere close to your house so you can drive her there afterward. On the second date, this “no-kiss” stuff does not apply. On the contrary, you should not only kiss her but do your best to get as far as you can (ideally, to sex). Younger women have so little ASD, you’ll be surprised how easy it is, especially if you’re used to dating women over age 30.

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Chapter Eleven Specific Techniques For Type Threes Type twos, assuming you follow the advice in this set of books, are going to be a slam dunk for you once you get the hang of this. Type three girls are a little more tricky. The process of getting to sex with type three girls is a little more delicate. What I’ve always recommended to older guys to get started with type two girls first, and quickly weed out the type ones and the type threes. Once you get good with the type two girls, the type threes aren’t really that much more difficult, but tackling a type three girl when you’ve had limited success with even type twos is going to be very difficult. Overall, type threes will be less raring to go that the type twos. That means you must be less aggressive with type threes and allow the seduction to take (a little) more time. This is normal and natural for the type threes. I have had sex with many type three VYW and they are no less “difficult”, just the your approach must be a little more tender. Less Aggressive Kino

With type twos, you can kino quickly, just like any other woman, and she’ll love it. However with many of the type threes, super aggressive, super sexual kino will scare them or creep them out.

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As I said way back in chapter one, under normal conditions this kind of sexual aggressiveness is good, and most guys have a problem with not being aggressive enough, but not if you’re an older guy dealing with a type three. I’m not saying you don’t kino at all. I’m saying you a) delay the kino slightly, and b) keep the kino less overtly sexual in the beginning. As you’ll see when you read the Younger Woman Case Studies book, there are some type threes where there was minimal or even zero kino or kissing before the actual clothing came off! Sounds odd I know, but you’ll get a much better feel for this once you read that book. More Time Meet-To-Lay

As you probably already know, I teach a two-dates-to-lay system. With type threes and older men, you may very well be looking at three dates before that lay, sometimes even four if you’re new at this. This is normal and often necessary. You are doing something far outside her comfort zone here so you need a little more time to get her comfortable. Expect this and don’t be surprised by it. Do NOT use this as excuse to keep dating any woman, of many age, past three or four dates without any sex! As I talk about in detail in my seduction ebook, going on dates with a woman past about the third date where sex has not taken place is one of the biggest no-no’s in the book. All it does is waste your time and reduce the odds of you ever getting to sex with her. Younger women are no different in this respect! Some cases, they’re worse! No dates past about the third or fourth date with no sex, or at least no clear sexual activity.

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Make It Normal

This is a very effective technique for laying type three VYW that I stumbled upon completely on accident several years ago. If you make it clear to a type three that other VYW in her family or social circle have fucked an older guy and enjoyed it, she will be much more comfortable with the concept. So, it’s up to you to educate her. If she has any female friends, acquaintances, coworkers, or family members who are younger and have dated or fucked much older men and had a good time with it, you need to let her know and remind her. The first three I ever had sex with a type three was the 18 year-old girlCase I talkStudies about briefly in chapter five ofwas the YoungerAsian Woman book. Her close friend dating me and loving it, and heard nothing but good things about how “older men are better” from her. So although she was a hardcore type three, laying her wasn’t a big problem. (This is also a textbook example of younger woman referral game we’re going to talk about in chapter thirteen). However you do not need to go to this extreme. I’ve executed this method various ways, including: 1. Asking her questions about other women in her family who might have dated or married much older men to positive results, then had her expound upon it to me. Not to educate me, but to her herself say it. 2. Show her other friends or acquaintances she knew of, even if they were distant Facebook friends, who had

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dated (or are currently dating) an older man and are happy with it. 3. Get her to think back on an experience in her history where she knew a younger woman with an older man. This technique is not a cure-all. It will not change her mind or make her do a 180 and suddenly make her fuck you or transform her into a type two. It’s just an effective way to nudge her in the proper direction. Ongoing Relationships Are Unlikely

I’m sad to say this, but as an older man, but carrying on a relationship that lasts longer than about a month or two with a type three VYW is unlikely. There are always exceptions to every rule of course, but the majority of the time, once she has sex with you for a while, even if she enjoys it, she will eventually return to dating men her own age. The concept is just too far out of her comfort zone. Societal norms are just too important to her. Now don’t cry. It’s not all bad. Here’s some of the good news. 1. Like I said, there are exceptions. You might get lucky. I just wouldn’t plan on it. 2. If you follow the open relationship techniques in my open relationships ebook, it is easily possible to get type three VYW to keep coming back to you sexually, sporadically, for years and years via LSNFTEs. I’m just saying consistent relationships with type threes are unlikely, even monogamous ones. 3. Long-lasting relationships with type twos are not only likely, but very easy to do. More on this in the

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following chapter. Remember, type twos should be the mainstay of your younger women diet anyway. I consider type threes as a bonus. You should too.

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Chapter Twelve Ongoing Relationships With Younger Women Relationships is a big topic. Open relationships or monogamous relationships, serious relationships or FB-only relationships…an entire book, or even series of books, could be written about any one of these topics. Clearly I’m not going to tackle all of that here in this one single chapter. I have already written an entire book about open relationships, and I blog often about relationship techniques, usually from the point of view of open relationships. So I’m not going to attempt to repeat all of that here. Instead, this chapter is strictly regarding having an ongoing relationship with a much younger woman from the standpoint of the older (over age 30) man. First we’ll cover the positives, then we’ll cover the negatives, and lastly we’ll cover how younger women operate in the four different relationship types. The Positives In no particular order, here are the good things about

younger woman, particularly VYW, in ongoing relationships. 1. Extremely flexible. I don’t mean they’re physically flexible during sex (although many definitely are!). I mean that in your relationship with her, she will be extremely flexible regarding your lifestyle and who you are. Work odd hours? She’ll work around it.

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Already have kids? She doesn’t care. Don’t have a lot of money? Doesn’t bother her a bit. You’re emotionally distant, or an asshole, or cheat on her? She’ll make it work. (Not that those are good things, or things I recommend, but the point is she’ll work around them.) No matter who you are, the problems you might have, or the odd life you might lead, she will work with you on it. All she wants is to be with you. She doesn’t have this massive checklist of boyfriend/husband “must-haves” that older women constantly operate under. It’s very nice. 2. Pleasers. Younger women, most of them anyway, are constant pleasers. They want to make you happy. They want to do what like. your Theykitchen want toor make you dinner. They want you to clean babysit your sister’s kids. Yes, older women sometimes do this to, but only in the beginning and even then it’s sporadic. With most older women (especially those over age 33 or so) this “pleasing” is only a temporary phase before they downshift into betaization mode. Younger women will (usually) always remain pleasers, throughout the length of the relationship (even if they attempt to beta you later). 3. Highly compliant. Tell your 35 year-old girlfriend, nicely, that you think it would be great if she cleaned your house. Watch the reaction you get. I promise you it won’t be a positive one. If you don’t believe me, just try it. Now tell your 20 year-old girlfriend the same thing. Her reaction will range from neutral (“Sure. Maybe

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next week.”) to giddy excitement (“Okay! You don’t have any cleaning products here so I’ll bring some over from my house!”) Younger women have much less of this “don’t tell ME what to do!” stuff than older women. 4. Constant happy, upbeat demeanor. One of the first things you notice about younger women, particularly VYW, as you start dating them is how they always seem happy. Even if they’ve had a bad day or fought with their girlfriends or their mom or their boss, by the time they see you they’re smiling, happy, laughing, and joking around as if nothing happened. This is a far cry from the often stressed-out, touchy, complaining demeanor older women are often prone to. This near-constant happiness is in my opinion one of the greatest advantages of dating much younger women over women your own age. It really makes a guy’s life an enjoyable one. Try it and you’ll see what I mean. I’m sure you’ll love it as much as I do. 5. Higher tolerance to open relationships (or, if you’re that kind of guy, cheating). Not only do most younger women not mind if you play around, often you can use them to assist you in fucking other women. (We’ll talk about exactly how to do this in the next chapter). Talk about a huge advantage! The Negatives

I’ve actually devoted a chapter to the problem areas of younger women (chapter fifteen). I’ll describe two quick minor ones that weren’t “big” enough to include in that chapter.

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1. She will love the music you hate. Oh lord. This may not sound like a big deal, but man, if you hate Top 40 music as much as I do, you’re going to really have to steel yourself if you want younger women in your life. If she’s under the age of about 27, she’s going to love Top 40 music (or worse) and will constantly be listening to that crap. You have been warned. 2. Whining. VYW whine. It’s not drama, it’s not any big deal, and as soon as you glare at them they’ll usually stop, but they’ll do it. Sometimes I will get VYW complaining to me that I have to work (and thus not spend time with them) on, for example, a Tuesday afternoon at 2pm. “OMG you have to work??? That’s bullshit, just hang out with me!” Maybe they don’t have a job. Maybe they have a job but have Tuesday off. It doesn’t matter. If she wants to spend time with you and you have to work, even if it’s during normal work hours, she will put up with it (as I described at the beginning of this chapter) but there will be a little whining. Stay strong and it dissipates fast. (By the way, here’s a little pop quiz. Do you think that logically explaining to her that “normal people work on Tuesdays at 2pm” is going to work? What do you think?) VYW In The Different Relationship Types

As I’ve described in detail in my other writings, there are four types of relationships. A quick review:

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FB – A fuck buddy or friend with benefits. You just have sex, that’s it. No “dating” or romantic feelings. WD (or MLTR) – A woman you do have romantic feelings for, but have not promised monogamy to. You can fuck and romantically date other women as well. LTR – A serious girlfriend (or wife) you are monogamous with. OLTR – A serious girlfriend (or wife) you’re in an open relationship with. You can both have sex with other people provided they’re just FBs and it’s “just sex”.

I’m going to tackle each relationship type in regards to older men and younger women. FBs

Younger women make fantastic FBs. Their almost complete lack of ASD, their zest for life, their lack of relationship rules, all of these things are 100% conducive to FB relationships. Two caveats to this. First, many younger women tend to get oneitis faster than older women. Just because she’s an FB and fully understands it doesn’t mean she won’t start falling in love you with hard. It can and will happen. Women in their mid 20’s in particular are notorious for lecturing guys about how “This is only sex, okay? We’re not dating okay? You’re not allowed to start liking me, okay?” only to start getting serious romantic girlfriendish feelings for the guy just a few weeks after saying those very words. Be aware.

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Second, just like women of all ages, younger women do not like other people referring to them as a “fuck buddy” or “friend with benefits” even if they themselves admit that’s what they are. They can call themselves these things, but you can’t. Never, ever refer to a woman as a “fuck buddy” or “friend with benefits” even if she’s called herself that. (I know that makes no sense. Women don’t make sense.) When you’re pressed and you have to actually verbalize what she “is”, she’s your “close friend”. WDs / MLTRs

A WD is a woman you’re actually dating and do like more than just a fuck buddy. However you haven’t made any commitments to her yet, you’re not monogamous, and can still be with other women, even romantically. An MLTR is the same thing except you pretty much never have the intention of being monogamous with her, ever, regardless of how serious the two of you get. I have had many WDs and MLTRs of all ages, from 18 yearold girls all the way to women in their early 40’s. There really is no difference to MLTR management with younger women vs. older women. I racked my brain, went back through my notes, racked my brain some more, and I really can’t think of a single difference (other than the possible faster oneitis on her end we’ve already talked about). Surprisingly, younger women’s sense of timing about when things are “casual”, when things are “dating” and when things should “start to get serious” really are about the same as women of older ages. Refer to How To Create And Maintain Open Relationships With Women for more information on MLTR management. Everything in there applies to younger women and VYW.

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LTR

As you’re already aware if you’ve read my other writings, monogamy is not something I endorse or practice, for a myriad of reasons I’ve written about in detail elsewhere. Therefore I can’t give you a lot of first-hand experiences of younger women in monogamous relationships. All I can do is relate what I have seen when other older men get monogamous younger girlfriends. The first issue is that of children. Younger women want kids. If they’re in a serious relationship with you, they’ll want them with you. That doesn’t mean they’ll want them immediately, but it does mean they’ll expect them from you eventually. If you already have kids she won’t mind, but she’ll still expect you to have more. With her. Having kids, the decision to have them, or more of them, is obviously far beyond the scope of this book. What’s most important is that you as a man make a solid decision as to whether or not to have kids, and under what conditions you will have them (or more likely, more of them). As you already know, I do not endorse lying to women. Therefore I do not endorse the concept of stringing women along, promising that you’ll have babies with her “some day” when you know damn well that you won’t. Once you’re dating and things look like they may move in a serious direction, Tell her flat out that you want more babies, or that you don’t, or that you could but only under certain conditions. Don’t lead women on. The most important point here is that you need to expect in advance that any younger woman in your life beyond the FB level are going to want to have babies with you.

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Vasectomy

All of this talk of babies necessitates a quick segue into the topic of vasectomies. Most older women, particularly the ones who’ve already had two or more children, love guys with vasectomies, and you’ll do very well with older women when you advertise you’ve had the procedure done. However, there is a hard fact of life regarding younger women that you’re going to have to come to terms with, and it is this: If you tell a younger woman you have a vasectomy, she’s gone. Very few younger women are going to stick around with a guy who’s had a vasectomy even if they only intend for the guy to be an FB . That doesn’t mean they’re trying to get a baby “on accident” from you (though some are). It’s because of their intense biology, Disney fairytale desires, and woman-logic. A younger will always want the option of having babies with awoman man she is having sex with, and if you tell her on the first date (or whenever) that you can’t have children, she’ll out of there so fast a gust of wind will follow her out of the Starbucks. I’ve slept with many VYW where literally the only question they asked about me prior to having sex was whether or not I wanted to have more children. Even if you answer “no”, if they know you haven’t had a vasectomy, they’ll often rationalize it and fuck you anyway (“Oh, I can change his mind!”) But if you tell them you can’t have kids, the odds of her sticking around are very, very low. This is a major deal breaker for most younger women. If you haven’t had a vasectomy, you have nothing to worry about. If you haven’t had one but plan on getting one, this is something you’ll need to consider. (Even though I’m likely done having children, I made the decision several years ago to never get a vasectomy, for many reasons. You’ll need to make your own decision.)

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If you’ve had vasectomy, you’re in a tough spot. When she asks about future prospects of kids, you’ve got three options: 1. Lie and tell her you’re able to have more kids. I do not endorse or recommend lying to women, for any reason, but it’s your life and it’s certainly an option. 2. Tell her the truth, and be ready for any consequences. 3. Tell her you’re ready to get the procedure reversed immediately and want to have more kids. Again, I would only tell her this if there’s some truth to it. Stating this will work. It will be enough for her to rationalize being with you. Just remember if the two of you actually end up dating, she’ll hold you to your promise. (Rightly so.) OLTR

Over the last few years there has been one particular girl in my life who has essentially been an OLTR (“Tiffany” as I discuss in the Younger Women Case Studies book). She has not quite been an OTLR, but damn close. I also know a few older men with much younger women OLTRs and their experiences have very similar to mine. When a younger woman becomes your OLTR, or close to it, or begins to sense it, because you’re behaving that way (hopefully in a correct fashion like I talk about in my open relationships ebook), her Disney fairytale desires or going to go on overdrive. She’s going to talk about moving in together, getting married, having babies (unless you’ve already done those things with her) and how excited she is about it and how wonderful it will all be.

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She will still tolerate you having sex with other women, but in an OLTR a woman will issue more “rules” surrounding the practice. Younger women are not different than older women in this regard, except that as I already said, they will be far more flexible about it and less stringent about these rules an older woman would. The downside is a younger woman’s Disney desires will be five times the magnitude of an older woman’s. Older women have already gone through the pain and suffering of marriage, living full-time with a man and all the negatives therein, having babies, rising kids, divorce, custody battles, and all that fun stuff. However (most) younger women haven’t experienced any of that pain yet. To them, it’s all a perfect fairytale fantasy, and they expect you to play your part. If things like living together, having more kids, and or marriage are what you want from your OLTR, go for it. Just make sure you take all the necessary precautions I talk about in my free ebook on the subject of marriage and equally importantly, never promise her monogamy! Living together, having kids, perhaps even getting married (remember the prenup!) are fine, but monogamy? Never! Not if she’s an OLTR. Hey, remember, she’s a younger woman. She won’t mind. She’ll make it work. If there are aspects of the relationship you adamantly do not want, you need to man up and not let her sway you. If you absolutely don’t want kids, or absolutely don’t want to get legally married, or whatever, then tell her and do not waver when she begs / pleads / cries / threatens. You may lose her, you may not, but don’t let the possibility of that loss sway you. There are many other quality women out there…she is not the only one. Even if you truly love a woman, never get oneitis!

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Chapter Thirteen VYW Referral Game One of the absolute gold mines regarding VYW women is something very few men know about. It’s this: VYW are far more forgiving, to the point of uncaring, if you fuck their friends.

VYW live in a world every everyone fucks everyone. All their guy friends fuck all their girlfirends. I’m exaggerating of course, but you know what I mean. If a FB, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, or perhaps even a close guy friend of a 35 year-old woman has sex with one her her best female friends, she will react with such anger that the act alone is grounds for ejecting the guy (and possibly the woman too) from her life forever, never to return. However for 19 year-old girls, this situation is damn near the norm. There’s nothing unusual about it at all. If something like this happens, there’s probably a short but intense spurt of drama, then two weeks later everything returns back to normal and life goes on just like before. You take the advantage do it can without drama. of this little-understood fact…even

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Take a look at this chart. It’s an actual repsentation of what has happened with four particular VYW I dated, colored in purple.

This chart is a representation of what actually happened with four VYW whom I’ve dated (and in some cases, am still sporadically seeing via LSNFTEs). By attracting and having sex with four younger women, I actually ended up getting sexual with twelve women instead of just the srcinal four. Here’s what I did. Using my normal cold approach techniques (mostly online game) I attracted and laid four new women, girls A, B, C, and D in the above chart. Then I started dating them all as either MLTRs or FBs, as I always do whenever I lay a new woman. (I don’t do one night stands.)

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Using “referral game”, I made sure to meet other women in their social circles and seduce them as well. It worked, and I ended up having sex (or getting very sexual with) seven other women, most of them VYW but a few (girl U and girl X) were older. In one case, I actually did that again with one of those “second level” girls, girl Y, and eventually had sex with one of her friends, girl V. See the power of this? I only had to take the time and effort to “pick up” four women, but was able to have sex (or in the cases of girls T and Y, get sexual) with twelve women. A few other things about this chart. • You’ll notice that sometimes the 2nd or 3rd level women are older. Girl X was a very hot 40 year-old I had met through girl B. Since referral game usually will not work on women older than about age 24, girl X was a “dead end”. Regardless, you can still get younger women to “refer” older women to you. Just don’t expect older women to do any referring. Their ASD levels are too high. • I was able to get a “referral lay” from a girl who I didn’t even have full-on sex with (girl Y). • I put girl A and girl Y together in order to score with girl Y. We ended up having a threesome (and later I ended up laying girl V via girl Y). • You’ll notice some girls referred a lot, some referred a little. And of course there have been many younger women who never referred at all (they aren’t on the chart). I only got one referral lay from girls C and D.


Girl A was better with two. Girl B was a gold mine of referral sex, to this day I make sure to always keep girl B around to so I can mine more women out of that cavern. This is the power of what I’ve started to call “referral game”, a type of game that works primarily with women under the age of 24. It’s a topic I don’t see talked about much anywhere and that surprises me. Referral game is a type of social circle game, but it’s not social circle game specifically. It’s not about meeting chicks at parties through other people you know and trying to fuck them. That’s just normal game. Rather, referral game is the practice of very quickly isolating, and fucking with are theirfriends with VYWescalating, you are already dating,women usuallywho assistance. I’m not talking about threesomes, though threesomes are sometimes a component of referral game. You start having sex with girl A, and establish an ongoing sexual relationship with her (FB, WD, MLTR, OLTR, it really doesn’t matter what kind). After a while, it comes to your attention that girl A is friends with girl B, who is really hot (perhaps you saw a picture of her on Facebook, perhaps you met her briefly while meeting up with girl A, whatever). You target girl B to have sex with, often before you’ve even met her in real life, and with girl A’s assistance (or even without it) you meet up with girl B, who already trusts you because you’ve been socially proofed and “endorsed” by girl A, and have sex with girl B very quickly and with minimal effort. I am not talking about meeting girl A’s friends at a party and start gaming them over time. There’s nothing wrong with doing that of course, but that’s just more typical social circle

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game. Instead, with referral game your only objective of the interaction is to have sex with girl B and do it very quickly. Not to hang out with her and have fun, not to cross your fingers and fantasize about something someday, and not consider her a possible back-up if things with girl A “don’t work out”. I am also definitely not talking about fucking one of your girlfriend’s female friends and then hoping your girlfriend never finds out. That’s a recipe for massive drama with your main gal even if you’re in a stated open relationship. As with all of my techniques, I’m here to show you how to avoid drama, not create more of it. Referral game is (usually) very above-board. Both girls A and B are well aware that you have fucked both of them. How happy they are about that is a different story, and depends on the nature of your relationship with girl A, but there is no hiding or deception involved. Considering real-world ramifications, drama-free referral game is only possible under the following conditions: 1. You have not promised monogamy to anyone, especially girl A. (An exclusive relationship where threesomes are allowed might be an exception to this.) 2. You are dealing with younger women, generally women who are age 23 or younger. You think those over-30 types are going to be cool with you fucking their friends? Uh, no. If you don’t believe me, mention the idea to one of them and watch what happens. 4. You have a nonmonogamous EFA already established with girl A and are able to convey at least some of that to girl B. Girl A so she’ll go along with your plan, girl

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B so that she won’t feel like she’s “hurting” or “betraying” girl A. The great thing about referral game is that it’s almost literally no work. There are no phone calls, no emails, no going out to sarge, no dates, no number closes, no scheduling dates or day2′s, no flaking, no establishing rapport (at least not really, you’d be surprised how little you need). As long as you’re at least somewhat confident, have a strong sexual frame, and have already laid the groundwork with your solid EFA, it’s amazingly easy…easier than any other type of seduction you’ve ever done. It’s also very fast. I have no problem declaring it’s probably the fastest form of game out there. I’ve had several referral game lays that were literally under two hours grand total from hour. meet-to-lay. At least one I remember was under an The only downside to referral game is that ongoing relationships with the B girls are unlikely, since they tend to view girl A as your “primary” or your “girlfriend”, even if she’s only an FB. That’s a pretty minor downside when you compare it to the positives. As soon as I start having sex a new VYW one of my first objectives is to figure out how to meet her other hot female friends, if she has any. One fast referral game lay for me eliminates the need to send out a bunch of openers online and schedule a bunch of first dates. It’s an extremely powerful and high-return use of your time. How To Do It

1. Establish and maintain a nonmonogamous EFA in a relationship with your main girl (“girl A”). You need to establish an EFA a open nor at least a “not yet

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committed” relationship before you start pursuing fucking her girlfriends, otherwise you’re in for a world of resistance and drama. How to create and maintain a poly EFAs are beyond the scope of this book. However I lay out exactly, step-by-step how to establish and maintain the EFA of an open relationship in my open relationships ebook. The bottom line is that you never promise or even hint about being monogamous or “exclusive” and you never act jealous or needy when she hangs out with (or even dates!) other men. There’s more to it than just that of course; if you’re really interested refer to the open relationships book. 2. As soon as you’re comfortable doing so, encourage her to hang out with you and some of her female friends, especially ones you think might be attractive. This should be easy. Many girls will do this with you anyway. 3. Target the women you find attractive who are not in serious relationships and who seem enjoyable and sexual. That means you’re avoiding married women, women in a brand new relationship with a new boyfriend, or virgins. You get the idea. If you’re new at this, pick just one girl (“girl B”) at a time. 4. Casually let your girl A know that you’d like to fuck girl B. Do NOT make this into some kind of big “talk” or big deal. When girl A is in a good mood and you’re hanging out and enjoying each other, casually mention off-the-cuff that you think girl B is really hot and would love to fuck her. Do NOT do this while having sex or while being in any way sexual or romantic with girl A. Do it when you’re just hanging out and having fun.

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If girl A is under age 24 (the younger the better) and you’ve correctly established a proper EFA with her, the response from her should range from mildly positive, where she gives you some playful or sarcastic remarks, to very positive, where she literally says something like “Yeah, the three of us should hang out.” Keep talking to her until you get that “three of us” response. If you encounter some resistance, you’ve done something else wrong. Perhaps your open relationship EFA is weak (or worse, you’ve destroyed it by acting like her “boyfriend”), or perhaps you asked her too soon (like only after a week or two of dating), etc. not tell girl A about There are times where your desire to have sexyou withwould girl B. This would be in situations such as:

• Girl A and B are related. • Girl A and B hate each other or currently mad at each other. • Girl B has serious boyfriend or new boyfriend. • Etc. If this is the case, skip this step and all the following steps and go down to the “Two Step Referral Game” section below. 5. Schedule a time for the three of you to hang out. This should be easy once you get past step four. Make sure it’s only the three of you, not the three of you with a

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bunch of other friends. Just the three of you. Also make sure the meetup occurs in the evening and at a location you can completely control, which ideally means your home. If girl A seems open to the concept of you being attracted to girl B but is hesitant about actually hanging out as a trio or if the three of you meeting up never happens because of logistical or scheduling reasons, then skip all of these next steps and go down to “Two Step Referral Game” below.

6. Qualify girl B. Make sure she’s legal. Make she there is no new exciting boyfriend in her life. Make sure she’s a sexual girl who likes sex and has minimal ASD (most VYW are in this category so that one should be easy). Make sure she’s a type two or three VYW. 7. Make sure girl A is “on board” with you “playing” with girl B. Do NOT go into specifics about what will or won’t happen. Don’t start talking about threesomes or taking turns or whatever. Just get her acknowledgement that “it’s on” tonight. That’s all you’ll need. 8. Pre-plan logistics. If you’re planning a threesome, make sure you have all the logistics that you need ready. If you’re planning a more one-at-a-time-in-thesameevening thing, pre-plan that as well. Lay it all out in your head well before it happens and try to anticipate any problems that may arise. 9. Close. Either have the threesome or do a take-turns thing. Either works, and I’ve done it both ways many times.

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This is not a book now how to initiate sex or threesomes. How to escalate to sex is explained in detail in my seduction ebook, but I’ll give you a quick overview of how I tend to do threesomes. Always make sure girl A is your “main girl”. Give her most of the attention. When escalating, don’t linger on girl B too long, even if that means you escalate on girl B, acknowledge girl A quickly, then go back to escalating girl B and repeating. Be commanding and strong. TELL them what you want them to do. “Get on the floor.” “Kiss each other.” You get the idea. If alcohol is involved this is even easier. (Warning: Don’t get any underage women drunk! Don’t break any laws please!) Proceed strongly. This is critical. The best formula is to escalate on both, have sex with girl B first, then finish with girl A. I always make sure to do this since it doesn’t give girl B too much time to “think about it” and it allows me to take more time with girl A to make her feel appreciated, as well as “awarding” girl A with my orgasm. This applies whether you are doing a threesome or whether you are doing a take-turns thing. Once things get hot and heavy, fuck girl B first, then girl A. Two Step Referral Game

The above method or variations of it work in about 60% of cases. However many of my referral game lays happened without the cooperation of girl A at all. Often they happened after girl A and I were seeing each other (usually due to a LSNFTE). I simply maintained contact with girl B

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(and/or girl C, girl D, etc) and laid them on my own. This requires a different technique. Steps one through three above remain the same. Do those, then make sure you do step six. Then, we’ll jump right in, starting with a new step five. 5. Get girl B on your Facebook and in your cell phone. Both is ideal, but if you can get only one, get her on Facebook. 6. Contact girl B via Facebook or by texting on at least two separate occasions. You want it in her head that it’s “normal” to be communicating with her this way. 7. When you view it’s appropriate, contact her and pitch a meetup. Then met up with her and proceed as normal to sex. “When you view it’s appropriate” is going to depend on the situation with girl A. There’s so many possibilities that I can’t cover them all. Usually if step 4 in the above steps fail, I do these steps here then pitch the meetup when girl A LSNFTEs me. That’s the easiest way to do it. However you can still do it while seeing girl A as long as girl A is somewhat aware of what you’re doing. I mean “somewhat aware”; don’t give her specifics. All of this may sound more complicated than it is, and is probably difficult to visualize if you’ve never been in a situation like this before. Once you’re actually in the midst of this, it’s much easier than you might think. The first time I did this with no experience with referral game was with two 18 year-olds. We did it as a trio and I did the take-turnsinthe-same-evening thing. That was over three years ago

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Chapter Fourteen Drama Management If you’re familiar with my other work, you already know that one of my core concepts, not only regarding relationships but of all life, is that I have a zero tolerance for drama. Life is too short, and I have better things to worry about. A zero drama tolerance may seem antithetical to a man who dates younger women, especially VWY. After all, aren’t younger women big balls of childish drama? I’ll answer that question in a minute. First, we should quickly define drama before we go too much further into this discussion. Per the glossary on my blog, my definition of drama is this: Drama – Any harsh negative actions directed from a woman to man where the man is the target of said negativity. Screaming, nagging, complaining, arguing, demands, crying, threats, ultimatums, the “silent treatment”, refusing sex because of non-medical reasons, all of these things are drama, and there are many others. Drama is not “anything negative”. must beand harsh (sweetly lying would not Specifically, be considereditdrama) focused at the man (angrily complaining about her boss at work would not be considered drama). Drama is a female trait. (Men have guy-drama.)

If she screams at you, that’s drama. If she gives you the silent treatment, that’s drama. If she spends 20 minutes

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complaining about her bitchy best friend, that’s not drama. Nor is it drama when she lies to you. These might be bad things, but they don’t fall under the definition of “drama”. While were at it, let’s also be clear about what guy-drama is. Again from my glossary: Guy-Drama – A particular form of drama directed from a man to a woman. Unlike drama, which is feminine and takes many forms, guy-drama takes the form of a lecture issued in order to correct behavior. “Setting her straight”, “straightening her out”, “laying down the law”, commands to “respect” him, or issuing “rules” are all forms of guydrama. Guy-drama is extremely ineffective at managing a relationship and only creates more drama or at best simply delays (instead of preventing) future drama.

Now that we’re on the same page with definitions, let’s get back to our question. Do younger women have more drama than older women? The answer is yes. And no. Drama – Yes

Indeed younger women and VWY in particular can be full of silly, ridiculous, childish drama. All you have to do is watch some 18 year-old girls talk to each other or watch Facebook statuses of people (men and women both) under the age of 24 to see the sheer amount of up-and-down, useless, dramatic bullshit that permeate the lives of younger women (or more accurately, younger people). By the way, I’m not saying older women aren’t tornados of drama also. They definitely are. Drama is a female trait, not just a “younger woman” trait. However the sheer amount of

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drama from VYW may be something new to you if you’ve only dated women your own age. Drama – No

There’s a big BUT to all of this. Yes, VWY are volcanoes of silly drama, BUT in the face of a confident older man, their drama can be permanently redirected away from you. If you stand firm without being a jerk (and we’ll discuss how in a minute), your 20 year-old girlfriend (or FB or MLTR or whatever) will quickly learn redirect her drama away from you and back towards her family, girlfriends, and guy friends who want to fuck her (her “orbiters”). No, she won’t stop being dramatic. That’s like expecting a dog bark. She’ll simply instead of at you. throw her drama at other areastoofnever her life This is a key difference between younger women and women over age 30. If you even start implying that your 35 year-old girlfriend should throw her drama somewhere else instead of at you, she will actually feel insulted and offended. To her, she’s has a “right” to throw drama you, her boyfriend or husband. That’s part of your role in her life: a target of her drama when she’s in a bad mood. I’m not making a joke here. This really is how women view permanent male fixtures in their lives, especially husbands and live-in boyfriends. The older a woman is, the more this is true. (There are many psychological and societal reasons for this that go beyond the topic of this book.) The point is your 20 year-old girlfriend isn’t adamant about this “right” to throw drama at “her man” like your 35 yearold girlfriend would be. The 20 year-old is more than happy to redirect her drama away from you and towards other

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people. As long as she can “express” her drama, she’s fine. The actual target of her drama isn’t that important. How To Redirect Her Drama

The first step in redirecting her drama is to not do what your instincts tell you to do. When a woman (of any age) starts giving you drama, your biological male instinct will be to react in one of three ways: 1. React back. You’ll want to instantly throw shit right back at her. “What the fuck are you talking about?” or “I never said that! She’s lying!” or “If you don’t like that, then stop doing this!” or “Why are you screaming at me? I didn’t do anything!” This reaction is more common with more emotional men and more immature men. 2. Acquiesce. Surrender. Apologize. In psychological circles this is called conflict avoidance, saying things like, “Okay, okay, I will!” This is especially common with men with strong oneitis or beta males in longterm relationships or marriages. 3. Respond with guy-drama. We’ve already defined guy-drama. This saying things like “Alright, look! That’s it! From now own, you are no longer allowed to hang out with her! I don’t want you ever talking to that bitch. Delete her off your Facebook page and call Verizon and block her phone number right now. I’m going to stand right here and wait until you do it.” This is common with stronger men, particularly older men. Here’s the problem. All three of those responses are bad. All three are extremely ineffective at the primary goal of not having drama in your relationship in the first place. The

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first response creates more drama. The next two simply delay drama (in addition to creating the environment for future drama to fester). None of them remove the drama. Father-Like Qualities and Soft Nexting

What then is the correct response? You respond like a kind, loving, but stern father. Not a jealous boyfriend. Not a drama queen. Not a pussy. Not a drill sergeant. Not her boss. Not an abusive or insecure father. A strong, confident father figure who loves her but doesn’t have time for her crap. Your words and actions need to make it clear to her that while you love use not the word “love” in these examples, sinceher you(Imay truly love herloosely depending on the type of relationship) you will not spend time with her while she acts out. Other men might. Her girlfriends might. Her sister might. But you will not. Therefore you’re not going to respond to her drama, surrender to her drama, or issue your own kind of drama. You’re just going to calmly smile, tell her to calm down, and if she doesn’t, you’re going to calmly remove her from her house, and go do something else. I’m of course talking about the soft next. I go into extreme detail into the how-to of soft nexting and why it works so well in my book on open relationships. To summarize, a soft next is a temporary removal from her life, done in a relaxed, non-angry way, where you leave her, ignore her phone calls, emails, and texts for three to seven days. After which you see her again and resume the relationship like nothing ever happened.

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The difference in soft nexting and drama management with you as the older man and her as the younger woman is you need to a little less of an Alpha male badass and a little more the strong, stern, loving father. Many younger women, particularly the type twos, have been lacking in a strong father figure, or in just as many cases, a much too strong father figure. In many ways you’re the security and balancing force in her life that she craves. Moreover, she’s not going to give her father figure drama. Not if he’s both strong and loving, and you need both components to make this work. A few years back I was dating two VYW simultaneously who were both friends. One day, after some furious whispers between them, they came to me and started asking me very nicely if we could have a party at my house and invite their friends. Immediately they started making all kinds of promises and assurances. One of them suddenly stopped, looked at the other, and said “You know…this is just like we’re asking our dad.” That’s when I first knew I had nailed the confident, nonneedy, loving, strong, drama-free frame of the father figure. By the way, both of these girls were massive drama queens to everyone else in their lives (and remain so to this day), but neither of them ever gave me drama. This is why. Let Them Vent

The technique of letting a woman “vent” applies to women of all ages, and it’s a key in keeping drama low and redirecting a younger woman’s drama. When a woman comes home and bitches about her horrible day to her lover, I call that “venting”. Venting isn’t drama. It’s a very important part of the feminine psychological

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process. I don’t know if you’ve noticed yet, but women process the world by talking. Only by talking things out do they get to the point where they can relax. This is, of course, the opposite of what most of us men like to do. After a rough day we’d rather just crawl into our cave and watch football. We don’t want to talk to anyone. Talking about stuff often just pisses us off even more. Women are the opposite. They need to talk it all out. While drama should not be tolerated, not even a little, you should allow her to vent all she likes, as long as she’s at the WD level or higher. If she wants to complain to you for 30 minutes about her dumbass boss or ex-best friend or her bitch sister-in-law, let her. Just smile, nod, and let her talk. This concept was first introduced in the 1980’s by John Gray, the Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus guy. While he was right dead about wrongthis about he was absolutely one.a lot of other things, If you don’t let your woman vent when she needs too, she’s not going to feel like you are a safe place for her. It’s critical. And remember, it’s not directed at you, so it’s not drama! Also, as I implied above, if she’s just an FB, you don’t need to listen to her venting if you don’t want to. Of course, if in the process of venting she starts complaining about you, THAT’S drama and it’s time to nip that in the bud immediately. Just follow the sequence of 1) a warning, 2) changing the subject if she persists, 3) soft next if she still persists. Women are extremely fast learners. She’ll figure out the difference between drama and venting and modify her behavior accordingly. I’ve done this countless times over the years with many women. It works.

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Chapter Fifteen Things To Watch Out For Younger women are wonderful. I really mean that. My life has been enhanced in every way since learning how to attract and date VYW, and I recommend it for every older man who has decent energy levels and a healthy sex drive. However it’s not all sweetness and roses. Having a sexual and/or romantic relationship with a girl 20 years (or more) younger than you does introduce some challenge areas that would not happen with a woman closer to your own age (and, of course, a few that would). I have several years of experience fucking, dating, and being in relationships with much younger women, and in large numbers. In this chapter I’ll give you a heads up on all the pitfalls I’ve observed and learned, so that you can be prepared for them and ensure they’re alleviated if and when they do happen to you. Challenge Area 1: Legal Issues

This is such a critical issue we already discussed this way back in chapter one, but it bears repeating. 1. Know the age of consent laws in your local area as well as your attorney does. 2. Always verify a younger woman’s age before you touch her, either by checking ID or by using a private investigator or web service.

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3. Do not touch women whose age you cannot verify, no matter how hot or how willing they are, until you can verify it. If you absolutely can not verify her age, there are plenty of other fish in the younger woman sea…move on to other women. 4. Do not touch a women you know to be under the age of consent, no matter how hot or willing she is. Remember, there are plenty of fish in that sea, and jail time nor lifetime status as a sex offender is not worth any one woman, no matter how amazing. Got it? I’ve said it twice now. This book assumes that you have indeed verified the age of any woman you are seeing in a sexual context. Challenge Area 2: Family Issues

Even younger women who are 100% sexually legal still may have parents they live with who are not going to approve of their perfect little girl dating a guy in his 30s, 40s, or 50s. The good news is that as the world becomes more progressive, this is much less of a problem than you might expect. I’ve actually been extremely surprised at the number of parents who really don’t have a problem with their 18 or 19 year-old daughters going out with a guy 20 years older. The majority of the parents of VYW I’ve been with who were aware of my existence in their daughters’ lives have been surprisingly supportive, or at least neutral to the concept. However, this doesn’t mean all parents will be supportive. Some are going to be downright creeped out or worse, very upset. This is especially true if the parents are younger than you. The good news is younger women aren’t stupid, and most girls who have parents they know are going to be


pissed simply keep the older man in their lives a secret from their parents. However younger women being who they are, secrets tend to get out. You need to be prepared for any fallout that might occur in your life or hers if the issue of disapproving parents arises. Here are some ways you can prevent or alleviate this problem. 1. Always treat the younger woman (or women) in your life with the utmost care and respect. You should be doing this with all women in your life anyway, but it’s going to serve you double as well if you do it with VYW. The more you treat her like crap, the more likely she’ll go complaining about it to her friends and possibly her parents, and the more likely there will be trouble for you. I am not saying you act like a pussy, AFC, or beta male. Hell no. You can still be a strong, dominant Alpha male with the younger woman in your life and still treat her with kindness, care, and respect. 2. Do not lie to women. Again, this should be a maxim for all romantic relationships. Telling the younger woman in your life the hard truth or just keeping your big mouth shut are both better than lying. Most drama in non-married relationships stem from dishonesty. Plus, VYW are already used to men constantly lying to them, so your confident honesty will be a nice retreat for her, as well as a DHV. 3. Do your best to only date VYW who do not live at home with their parents. Just doing this alone removes all kinds of possible relationship and logistical problems from your interactions with her. VYW are

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indeed ten times easier to deal with if they do not still “live at home”. Not only are their logistical benefits to dating her when she doesn’t have parents at her place, but VYW who do not live at home are far more likely to act like mature adults than those who live at home with mommy and daddy. (Of course, there are plenty of exceptions to this rule as well.) I’ve dated several VYW who lived in on their own or with roommates, who owned their own cars and/or had their own full time jobs. Despite the fact they were numerically young, they essentially lived the lives of “adults”. The next best situation is if they live with just one parent. 50% less parents in the picture means 50% reduced odds of problems. Plus the single parent will often be working hard at a job to support the family and thus not be home; another plus. If you indeed end up with VYW who is still living at home with both of her parents, you need to be double as respectful and honest with her if you want to avoid “parental entanglements”. Challenge Area 3: Drugs and Alcohol

Regardless of the law, it’s a hard fact that women age 16 to 23 do more drugs, drink more alcohol, and get drunk more often than women in any other age group. I have dated large numbers of women in all age groups, from age 18 to age 49, and I can attest to this personally. Women under age 24 drink and/or do drugs more often and more heavily, often to ridiculous levels and (this is the important part) it does not matter how smart or mature they are in the other areas of their life.

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Many extremely intelligent and capable VYW will still get drunk to the point of puking all over the carpet on a semiregular basis. Do not be fooled by the cute 20 year-old who acts “mature for her age”. Most likely she’s still a little party animal just like all the rest. Of course, when VYW are with you, you can control this to a degree, and you should. (Not to mention the legalities involved of being an older man in the presence of drunk underage minors.) However when she’s not with you, that’s where she’ll often get into trouble. Sometimes, big trouble. I first realized this when I watched an 18 year-old FB of mine down three-fourths of an entire bottle of 151 rum within about ten minutes. Wow. I can’t even put a shot of 151 near my face without getting disgusted with the pungent aroma, but here she was, guzzling it like it was beer. (She spent the rest of the night puking in the toilet of course.) In my time with younger women, I’ve had these situations: • One 18 year-old FB of mine got drunk downtown with friends (I was not there) and was wearing a pair of sweat pants that were too large for her (that she was borrowing from someone else). They were constantly falling down and she was constantly pulling them up. She got a little too drunk, and didn’t pull them up fast enough when the cops drove by. She was arrested and had to spend the night in jail. • One 20 year-old FB got drunk and stoned, had sex with one of her younger guy friends at a party, and got pregnant. Her third child (from as many men). She snagged the guy as a BF so they could “make it work” until a paternity test revealed he was not the

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father. She was so drunk she didn’t even remember who the real father was. • One 19 year-old MLTR of mine (one of those very smart, mature, capable ones) was so drunk one evening when I picked her up, she kept me awake until 4am while I held a bowl under her face to catch her puke. Fun. I had an important business appointment the next morning and needless to say I was not happy. • A 25 year-old MLTR of mine once saw something another woman put on my Facebook wall she didn’t like. In a fit of jealousy, she LSNFTE’d me, then quickly went out on first date with a guy from online she had never met, got shitfaced drunk with him, and had sex with him on the first date. Unprotected sex, of course, because when you’re drunk you don’t care. So far so good, until a few days later her genitals started bleeding. He had given her genital herpes, and is now herpes positive for the rest of her life. • Years ago, before I had most of this younger woman stuff mastered, I stupidly held a party at my house and most people there were guys and gals under age 24. Two guys got drunk, got into a fight with each other, smashed some of my glasses, got blood on my floor, and scared the crap out of everyone else. I had to physically remove them from my house (thankfully I’m a big guy) drive them 30 minutes away and kick them out on the sidewalk, all of this at around 3am in the morning. Man, I was pissed. (However I did get a threesome with two 18 year-olds out the deal, and they cleaned the mess for me while I was gone, so the evening wasn’t a total loss.)

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I don’t want to give you the impression that these are common occurrences in my life. They aren’t. These are just a few instances over an almost five year-period of me dating a lot of women. But if VYW are in your life, especially multiple ones (like I have), you need to be prepared for these situations. Challenge Area 4: Lack of Birth Control or STD Protection

I cover the topic of birth control and STD prevention indepth in my ebook, How To Create And Maintain Open Relationships With Women, and I’m not going to rehash all of that here. Suffice it to say that unless you know the younger woman very well and she’s demonstrated a history of responsible sexual behavior, you always need to be wearing a condom when you have sex with one. This is even more important with VYW than with women your age. VYW, even the very intelligent and mature ones, simply don’t give a shit about preventing pregnancies or STDs, especially when they’re drunk which we’ve just established can be often. They are especially careless about pregnancies. I shouldn’t have to tell you about the epidemic of teenage mothers out there for you to understand that VYW just don’t care if they get “accidentally” pregnant. Unlike older women who often actually want to get pregnant “on accident”, most VYW just don’t care. I mean they really don’t care. If you want to cum inside them for weeks on end without wearing any condom, they won’t bat an eyelash. But YOU should! Not only will you end up having to pay child support to some dingy 18 year-old for the next 18

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years, you’ll probably end up with chlamydia or herpes or some other fun disease. When having sex with any woman, but especially a VYW, condom up. I don’t care if she said she was “just tested and is clean” (unless she can show you a hard copy or email results) or that the “doctor said she can’t get pregnant”. Wear that condom! Challenge Area 5: Super High Energy Levels

I actually consider this a good thing, at least sometimes, but you might not. As I talk about in the next chapter, VYW have young teenage bodies bursting with powerful metabolisms, flowing hormones, and almost boundless energy…possibly way more energy than you want or are ready for. • You might want to have a quiet evening at home, but she wants to go to the clubs and dance until 3am. • While you’re at work she’s texting you…bitching that she wants to go to the mall with you. Right now. (No, she doesn’t care it’s 2pm on a Tuesday and you’re at work.) • You’re cleaning your garage on a Saturday and she’s bouncing off the walls, wanting to go camping or jet skiing. • It’s 7pm and she’s starving and wants to go out and eat, even though you both just ate full meals two hours ago and she ate more than you did. • It’s 1am and you’re ready to fall asleep, but she’s wide awake, jumping on the bed, and wants to stay up and watch The Simpsons with you. Again.

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You get the idea. Humorous as they sound, these kinds of situations are not unusual. I happen to be a very healthy and high-energy guy, so this is not a big deal for me (usually!). Plus I’m at the point where I’m accustomed to it. However I know plenty of older guys interested in younger women who have moderate or even low energy levels. You need to be prepared for the occasional disconnect with your younger companion. If you’re only interested in infrequent FBs or very short-term relationships, this is much less of an issue for you, but still something to be aware of. Challenge Area 6: Lower Sex Drives

You’ll especially notice this difference with VYW if you are used to dating women over age 35. Women in their 40’s and mid to late 30’s tend to have wildly insatiable sex drives once they get comfortable having sex with a particular man. You can have sex three or four times in an evening and they’re still ready and willing for more. Younger women, especially VYW, not so much. Yes, they love sex, and yes you can have sex with them more than once and they’ll be happy, but they will usually not be craving sex like older women are. You’ll probably never get the compliant “all we do is have sex!” from a 40 year-old woman, but you might from a 20 year-old one. If you have sex once or twice with a VYW, it’s more likely she’ll be ready to take a shower and “go do something fun” rather than have sex again. When I date older women, I often will get phone calls and texts from them begging me to come over to their place to fuck them. I almost never get these kinds of requests from

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the VYW I date. (Though there are always happy exceptions to this!) One of the key psychological differences between VYW and older women is that older women like sex because they like sex, while VYW tend to like sex because of the attention they’re getting. It’s a slight but key distinction.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying your new 19 year-old girlfriend won’t love sex with you and won’t be asking you to fuck her. She will! Just don’t expect the hardcore sexual desire you might be accustomed to when having a 40 yearold girlfriend. Challenge Area 7: “Slutty” Behavior

This may sound like the complete opposite of challenge area six, but it’s true. While VYW might have lower sex drives than older women, they still tend to be more…well…slutty. I’ll explain. You might have to worry about the 27 year-old woman in your life fucking another man when you’re not looking, but you may have to worry about the 18 year-old in your life fucking four other men when you’re not looking. You’ll probably never have to worry about the hot 28 yearold gal in your life dancing on a table in front of a bunch of men when you’re not around. You’ll probably never have to worry about the 38 year-old woman in your life dressing in overtly sexually alluring clothing when it may not be appropriate to do so. You’ll probably never have to worry about the 31 year-old in your life constantly flirting inappropriately with other men when you’re not around.

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However you my very well encounter all kinds of things like this from the younger women in your life. This is one of those “take the good with the bad” situations. The good news is that younger women have much less ASD than older women, and believe me, this is a very, very good thing. The flip side of this is they will often flaunt their sexuality far more than older women. If you’re a more controlling guy or have a more jealous personality, you’re going to have your hands full. Challenge Area 8: Addictions To Phone And Facebook

Women of all ages women like to talk on the phone, and many women of all ages like to mess around on Facebook. However younger women consider these things their constant lifeblood. Her phone is the most important thing in all day long, whether that her life.sitting She’s at onaFacebook means computer or Facebooking on her phone.

While talking to her at the restaurant while having dinner, much of the time her little face will be planted in her phone while she texts someone and talks to you at the same time. This is a classic generational difference. You might consider this behavior as rude, but people in her generation do not. It’s just considered normal in her social world, and if you tell her she’s being rude you’ll just confuse and annoy her. It’s simply part of the new communication paradigm of her era (and frankly, of yours too). That phone of hers rules her life. It doesn’t matter if you’re having a quiet emotional moment or in the middle of watching a movie at the cinema…if that phone beeps or rings or whatever, she must stop whatever she’s doing and respond to the text, email, Facebook message, or phone call.

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Even if she loves you, her phone will (seemingly) be more important. Be prepared. Challenge Area 9: Jealous Younger Guys

Oh, this is a big one. She’s going to have young guy friends in her age group, and they are all going to universally hate you with a white-hot passion. Some “old guy” fucking “their girl”. Oh man, they’re going to be pissed. She’s going to constantly hear complaints and insults regarding you (when you’re not around, of course). Take her out to a bar, and guys closer to her age are going to badmouth you to her whenever you turn your back to get a drink. You are not going to be welcome in her male social circle. The other young men in her life will at best fear you, at worst hate you. Be prepared for this. I’ve even had one or two instances of young jealous orbiters of young FBs or MLTRs I was dating try to mess with me. (Online of course, never in person.) If you’re a more emotional, touchy, or dramatic guy, this is going to be a problem. It’s no big deal for me however; because of my no-drama policy, I simply refrain from spending any time with any younger guys in her social circle. I suggest you do the same unless you enjoy drama and conflict. The younger women in her social circle…now that’s a completely different story! You want to talk to them! We already talked about referral game.

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Challenge Area 10: “On Blast” With Relationship Details

“On blast”, if you have not heard the term, is a common term among the millennial generation that means to embarrass someone by revealing compromising information to a large group of people. Over time that term has morphed to mean “revealing anything personal to people who don’t need to know”. VYW, women under the age of 24 or so, have a different concept of privacy that you might, especially if you’re well over age 35. In a world of 24/7 camera phones, video phones, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, the term “privacy” has changed dramatically to say the least. Let’s say you have a little argument (or even a big argument) with the younger woman your life. Youposted mightabout be it in surprised to find the next in morning she’s detail on her Facebook page so that her 523 friends and family members can read all about it. Again, this is a generational difference you need to accept, at least to some degree. Contrary to what us older guys from a bygone era might think, she’s not doing this because she’s being a bitch, or because she’s trying to get back at you, or anything like that. She’s doing it because that’s what her generation does. If something pisses them off, they plaster it all over Facebook/Twitter/Formspring/whatever, regardless of how personal or private you think it should be. As an old fogey, you need to be prepared for this generational difference. For a while, when I was new to the world of dating younger women, I tried to fight this with all the VYW I dated. Over time, I realized this was a losing battle. This is just how “kids these days” “work”. It’s the way it is, and you’re not going to stop it. Trust me, I know.

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I’m at the point now where as long as the crap that is posted about me isn’t too explicit or specific, I just let it go. Unless you want to be constantly battling a key generational difference that you’ll never “win”, I suggest you learn to do the same. I’m also not saying every younger woman does this, but the majority do. If it makes you feel better, she’ll also constantly be posting all kinds of flattering and wonderful things about you as well. It’s definitely a new world out there. By dating much younger women, you’re going to get a crash course on just how new it really is.


Chapter Sixteen Sex Sex with younger women is not that different from sex with older women. There are all kinds of stories people tell about how women in their mid thirties are at their sexual peak and hornier and better in bed than younger woman, some of these things have some truth to them. Regardless, I’ve slept with a large number of women from 18 year-olds to women in their late 40s, and I can tell you for a fact that the actual act of sex with younger vs. older women is more or less the same. With both younger and older women, women areare good, aresome bad. Some are loud, somesome are quiet. Some verysome active, lay their like a dead fish. Some women orgasm easily many times, some orgasm once, some can’t cum at all. Etc. It’s true that an 18 year-old’s body is going to look and feel much different than the body of 45 year-old woman. That is absolutely the case and one of the big benefits of VYW. I’m saying the actual act of sex is more or less the same. What where you do run into differences between older and younger women is the atmosphere around sex rather than the sex itself. As I mentioned last chapter, speaking generally, older women, particularly those over age 30, like sex primarily because it feels good. Younger women, VYW in particular, like sex primarily because of the attention it gets them. I’m not saying 19 year-olds don’t think sex feels good. They

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certainly do (most of them anyway). What I’m saying is that for younger women, sexual attention is just as important, if not more important, than the act of sex itself. I’ve dated women in their 40’s who wanted me to just come over to their houses and fuck them. You will rarely get requests like this from VYW. She might call you up to have sex, but after sex she wants to go “do something”. Whereas after sex the 42 year-old woman probably wants to just have sex again. This is the reason why a cute 20 year-old girl loves to dance on tables down at the local bar but a cute 40 year-old woman has no desire do to that at all even if thought she could get away with it without judgment. You might think that’s because the older woman is more “mature” or have already “gone through that stage”, and some of that might be true. However the overriding reason is that pure sexual attention is less important to the 40 year-old while sex still is. The 20 year-old girl thrives on sexual attention, loving it just as much as actual sex. There are few ways as effective to command a man’s total and complete positive attention as having sex with him, and younger women learn this very quickly. That’s the overwhelming reason why they want to have sex, in addition to the fact she’s got raging hormones (more on this in a minute) and sex feels really good. How does all of this relate to you? In some ways, her desire for sexual attention is very good. It means she has far less ASD than her 40 year-old female counterparts. If you play your cards right, she will have sex with you much faster and with much less rules and strings attached than a 40 year-old will (whereas the 40 year-old

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woman can and usually will deny you sex even if you play all your cards right in a dating environment). It also means if the woman in your life is really young, as a VYW, she’s going to be far more tolerant of you sleeping with other women, including women she knows personally. That’s what referral game is all about. The bad news is that your new 19 year-old or 23 year-old girlfriend is likely not going to be as pure a sexual creature as your last girlfriend who was 39. Your new GF is probably not going to want to have sex six times a day. I’m not saying she won’t do that, I’m saying she won’t be begging for it. Your old GF would love to have sex three and four times in a row late into the evening, but your new 19 year-old GF is ready to go “do something fun!” after having once orwhen twice. Sherather may think sexwith all you night issex “boring” she’d go tohaving the club instead. Going back over the plus side of all this, your new 19 yearold girlfriend is going to have far, FAR less rules about your relationship than your 39 year-old ex-GF ever did. Your 19 year-old is going to let you do just about whatever the hell you want. Your 41 year-old ex had a list of expectations and “proper boyfriend behaviors” for you that was a mile long. Violations of any of these resulted in a long “discussion” about things like “mutual respect” and “how hard she works”. (If you’ve ever dated a woman over age 33 or so you know exactly what I’m talking about.) Like most things in life, it’s a list of pros and cons. Teenage Biology

Before get into the next topic of women’s “slut phase”, we need to make a quick detour into the realm of biology. This

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will aid you in understanding the sexual and relationship motivations of VWY. As I have written about extensively in my other works, we human beings possess, more or less, the same brains and bodies of ancient cavemen from tens of thousands of years ago. We like to think we’re all high tech with our IPads and Bluetooth headsets, but the reality is we are operating the same bodily machine as Grog the caveman 80,000 years ago sitting in a cave with a spear and a stinky loincloth. Nature has been very slow in catching up with our technological advancements and culture. Back then, when food was scarce and gatherings of people were small, nature designed you to grow fast, reproduce fast, and die fast. Nature made sure you matured from childhood to adolescence by age 12 or so. Then it wanted you to have lots of babies as quickly as possible. So it designed your body with all kinds of hormones to improve your looks, make you stronger, metabolize food efficiently, and make you really horny for sex. This is why teenagers are so damn horny. This is why parents fantasize about locking up their teenage daughters and why you used to masturbate 20 times a day back when you were 13. After a few years of this, nature didn’t want you hanging around as an old person, draining the tribe’s very limited food supply. So it made sure you died at age 25 or sooner. This is why people start actually aging at age 25. It’s also why the brain isn’t fully formed until around age 25. Up until then, people look great. After that, the slow death process begins. The reason people over age 25 run into things like sagging skin, wrinkles, gray hair, cancer, heart attacks and Alzheimer’s Disease is that nature never

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intended for any of us to live past age 25. Interesting when you think about it. So if you’re a man over 30 dating a woman who is under age 25, certainly if she’s under age 20, you need to remember her body is likely in a very different stage than yours. No, I’m not talking about puberty…most women have that handled by age 12 or 13. I’m taking about this adolescent caveman-stage where her hormones are powerfully flowing through her body in an effort to get her to reproduce, among other things. This will help you put into perspective the next part of this… Levels of Sexual Experience and The “Slut Phase”

Iextremes. have found thatshe VYW into one of two Either willusually be veryfall sexually inexperienced, as in she’s a virgin or only has had sex with one or two men in her entire life, or she’s had sex with a huge number of men. Rarely have I met or dated VYW who fell in-between these two extremes, and there’s a very specific reason for this. In the modern era, most women hit a temporary “slut phase” sometime between the age of 16 and 22. At some point between those ages she snaps and suddenly fucks a huge number of guys within a very short period of time, even if she was a very “good proper little girl” beforehand. We’re talking 10 to 15 men within 6 to 12 months, or more. This happens because of various factors including cultural pressures, parental deficiencies, immaturity, the desire for attention, and the extremely powerful biological factors we just talked about. Then when the smoke clears, she snaps out of it, looks back and says “OMG I was a slut!” then calms down a little, keeping it to just one or two guys at a time.

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This slut phase is normal, natural, and predictable. Almost every woman I know went through something like this. Most older women will (reluctantly) admit that they too went through this slut phase back when they were that age. (If you don’t believe me, just ask them.) Of course there are exceptions to every rule and there will always be a few women who never do this, but the vast majority in the modern era, in the western world, do. I don’t care how innocent or sweet or responsible or how good her grades are or how good her parents are. She’s either done this or will be doing this very soon. When you meet up with a VYW who is very sexually inexperienced, that means she hasn’t hit her “phase” yet. There is nothing inherently good or bad about this. These women are just as layable as the “post-sluts”, so proceed as normal. Just realize that if you get into an ongoing relationship with her, the day will come when she’s going to explode and go get slammed by a bunch of guys. You need to be prepared for this. Again, I don’t care how much of a “good girl” you think she is or how much you care for her. Be prepared for this. All the time I see younger guys get into serious relationships or marriages with pre-slut-phase younger women only to be shocked and horrified when these girls break up with or divorce these guys and go sleep with a huge pile of men, or worse, cheat on them and do so while still married or in a relationship with them. Just as often, perhaps more often, the younger woman you meet up with will already have had her “phase”. That means despite or age or appearance she will be very sexually experienced and she’ll know exactly what she’s doing. However she will put up a little ASD with you initially because she “doesn’t want to be a slut like she was last year.” The memory of her slut phase will still be fresh in her

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mind and she will be conscious of not repeating it. However she won’t be any more resistant than a typical VYW. Sometimes, though rarely, the timing for you will be just right and you’ll met up with a VYW while she’s right in the middle of her short slut phase. Happy day for you. Get ready for a very fast, very easy lay. However! Don’t expect her to be around long. Soon she’ll be off you and on to the next guy. Be double sure to wear that condom! The best thing to do with VYW right in the middle of the slut phase is to fuck them fast, fuck them for as long as you can (which won’t be long), and make sure you get their phone number, email address and get them on your Facebook page ASAP. Then when she vanishes out of your life, hit her up in four to six months later and re-acquire her. By thento herdeal slutwith. phase will be over and she’ll be more normal I have done this with more than one woman and it works. Sexual Teachability

For years now, some older women (cougars) have talked about how they like younger men because they’re more “teachable” in bed than older men. Well guess what? The exact same is true with younger women too. Once you’re in a relationship with a VYW who really likes you, you can indeed take her from an experienced near-virgin to an absolute sex goddess who is amazing at all the things you like. I have done this with several women, including with women who had not yet hit their slut phase. Do not hesitate to do this! As an older man, she’s going to expect you to be dominant and take the lead in sexual areas anyway. Being her sex teacher is yet another fantastic way

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to assert your dominance and raise her attraction for you into extremely high levels. Of course, if she’s only a short-term thing or a pure FB only, this is less important. But if it’s with someone you plan on dating for a while, you need to do this. The sexual areas I have found younger women to be the most teachable in and most needing of help in are: 1. Being comfortable with their own bodies. 2. Learning how the male body works and does not work. 3. Learning how to get to orgasm clitorally and vaginally easily and repeatedly. 4. Determining what she the are most, since she be initially aware (and because alllikes women different andmay likenot different things). This is not a book on sex or sexual techniques. That’s a topic for elsewhere. The point here is if you lovingly address those four areas with her (in about that order) you’re going to quickly have one amazing woman in your life. Not to mention the fact that even if you break up later, she will remember you, very fondly, for the rest of her life. I mean that. You’re not here to just get laid. You’re also here to bring happiness to the women in your life. Getting comfortable sexually is a very difficult thing for women of all ages to do. Assisting a younger woman in becoming a happy, comfortable, sexual being is one of the many ways you can do good for others. One more thing about that. Just because a woman in her 20’s has gone through her slut-phase and has slept with a bazillion men does NOT mean she is now comfortable with their body or knows how to orgasm. All my life I’ve been


surprised at women who have been with large numbers of men but who still have body issues, sexual hangups, and major trouble getting to orgasms. This is because 95% of the men out there are either terrible in bed or don’t give a shit about making a woman feel good. Don’t be one of those guys.

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Afterword If you’ve already had a little experience in dating much younger women, these ebooks, if you put them into practice, are certain to boost your results in ways that may surprise you. If you’re an older guy who’s never really tried younger women before, then like Obi-Wan said to Luke a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, “You’ve taken your first step into a larger world.” Dating with younger women, having them in my life, ranks up there with one of the most pleasurable, rewarding and downright happy experiences of my life. If you get to experience even one-tenth ofhope whatyou I’veexperience experienced withthan younger woman (and it’s my more that!) you will immediately understand what I’m talking about. Take the knowledge from these three ebooks and put them into practice in your life as soon as you can. Please don’t read these books, nod your head, and then go back to your business-as-usual life and forget about them. Do this stuff! You will be massively rewarded, I promise. I love to year about success stories. If you’re an older guy who has made even one much younger woman work in your life, please email me at here and tell me about it. If this ebook set sells well, I plan on doing seminars and/or workshop strictly for older men dating younger women. Unlike women, as we men age, we become more attractive, more in our prime. It’s time we started taking advantage of this. If this is a topic you would like to learn more about,


email me or read my blog regularly to keep apprised of more products, events, forums, and web sites I’m involved with to educate older men on what they can have. What they should have. Good journey to you, and good luck! ~Blackdragon

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The Blackdragon Dating System: Volume Five Part Two

Younger Women Case Studies Blackdragon Actual Dating Events and Relationships With Younger Women From My Life


Younger Women Case Studies Revision 1.0 / September 2011 NOTICE: This manual is licensed to the srcinal purchaser only. Duplication or distribution via e-mail, floppy disk, CDROM, DVD-ROM, portable hard drive, network, printout, or any other means to a person other than the srcinal purchaser is a violation of international copyright law and subjects the violator to fines and/or imprisonment. If you find any spelling errors in this book, that’s great. I put them there on purpose so you can enjoy looking for them, like finding Waldo. If you do find any, send me an email at [email protected] and let me know, so I can be impressed with you. ☺ Published By DCS International LLC. 6715 NE 63rd St. Suite #127 Vancouver, WA 98661

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Introduction In this book I’m going to lay out several real-life situations and relationships with some of the VYW (Very Young Women, women age 18 to 23) in my own life over the past several years. From these you should be able to pick up ideas and techniques and get comfortable with the kinds of things you should do, not do, and expect. I track everything that happens in my dating and relationship life on spreadsheets and in journals. To prepare for this book, I went back and pulled out all the women I’ve gotten sexual with that were under the age of 24. It was a healthy list. Then I culled the list down to nine women in particular that I felt would have the most instructive stories behind how they came that intoyou my can life. learn Somefrom. of these women are true success stories Others are partial successes. A few are complete and total failures, all of which were 100% my fault. You can learn from those as well. I certainly did. I have changed the names of everyone involved of course, but everything else is actually what happened based on my spreadsheets and journals and to the best of my memory. This book assumes you’ve already read the first younger woman book in the set, How To Attract and Date Younger Women, so I’ll be using terms from that book that might confuse you if you haven’t read it yet. Here we go!

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Chapter One My Very First: “Courtney” It only makes sense to start things off with the first VYW I ever had sex with as an older man; a very cute, very wild 18 year-old named Courtney. Because she was my first, it took me a lot of time and effort to finally lay her, and we had a lot of false starts, but in the end it was worth it not only for the things I learned, but for other reasons you’ll soon see. Years ago, back when I was 35 years old and still getting the hang of all this dating/seduction stuff, Courtney responded to one of the many openers I sent women on Plenty of Fish. Up until then I had only sent openers to women age 25 to 45. One day I thought “Ah, what the hell”, and sent a few off to some much younger women, ages 18 to 20 or so, just to see what would happen. The first woman I had a date with was the hot 20 year-old I talked about in chapter one of the main younger woman book. About a month or two after that, Courtney responded to an opener. We emailed back and forth very briefly and I hit her up for a meet very quickly as I always do. She happily agreed. I told her to meet me at a family restaurant (my first mistake) in a part town where I knew she was living. Welocated exchanged cell of numbers. If you’ve already read Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible, you know one of the techniques I use is to arrive 5 minutes after the woman arrives for a first date. It creates more respect than if a woman arrives after me and sees me just sitting there waiting for her. When Courtney texted to say she was running a good 15 minutes late, I decided to enter the restaurant and wait for her anyway.

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since she was only 18, but there was a cheapo 24-hour restaurant close to her apartment that I decided to use. The night of the date, I went on another first date with another woman, a very hot 27 year-old blonde, that I ended at 10:30pm, just enough time to zip across town to meet Courtney. (I eventually ended up having sex with the blonde too…in the back seat of her SUV no less…but that’s another story.) I pulled up to the apartment and picked up Courtney who was already in the driveway waiting for me. She was dressed in shorts that were barely below her butt with one of those long frilly shirts that were in style with teenage girls a few years ago. She hopped into my car and immediately started chatting away. She was very happy and bubbly. (I learned later she had done some cocaine a little earlier so that was part of without it, but her and social even it.)personality is very enthusiastic We just started talking like old friends. As we drove to the restaurant we were already laughing together. It was quite effortless. At the restaurant she ordered a milkshake and I drank water. She talked and talked and talked. She showed me the tattoos on her back also. She was a “shallow”, and keeping her talking was very easy. I turned the conversation to her past relationships. Oh, there had been many. One guy was even 40 years old but “we never got to sex” she said. She was a true type 2. Good. After a while I took her for a walk in the night air. While walking past a church we made out. I don’t normally kiss women on a first date since it usually reduces the odds of a

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lay occurring later, but like I said this was back before my system was perfected. She had “friends” back at her apartment, she said. God knows what that meant, but that ruled out sex for the evening. Unless… On the way back to her place I pulled into an empty parking lot and we made out in my car. That turned into me laying on top of her and grinding her in the back seat of my car with my hands all over her. However she would not let any clothing come off despite my best efforts. That was it for the first “date”. I forget what we did for the second date. It was brief. There was no sex. The third time we hung out was at her apartment where she lived alone but always had friends over. There, she showed me that she regularly smoked weed and wanted to make sure I was “okay with that because most guys give me shit about it”. I don’t give a shit what women do in their spare time. I made it very clear to her that I didn’t care. So she smoked her bowl and I met some of her pothead friends, both male and female. Once everyone was high, I left. I don’t mind if people do drugs but I have no desire for them myself. (I’ve never done any drugs in my entire life, no plan to.) Three meetups and no sex yet. I was getting pissed. However as always I was dating, meeting, and having sex with other women so it was no big deal. But I really wanted her. She was 18 and hot. The youngest woman I had ever had sex with up until this point in my life was 27. God answered my prayers a few days later. I finally got her to agree to come over to my place. She said that she could just “stay over”. I liked the sound of that.

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Within 15 minutes of her and I arriving back at my place, we had sex. It was amazing. She was tight, loud, fun, hot. She was cute with a small build with big, perfect teenage boobs. It was everything I imagined sex with a younger woman could be. Courtney and I went on to date for five months in an open relationship. We had many wild sexual escapades that are too numerous and salacious to describe here. She was a wild, promiscuous, high-sex drive freak, totally incapable of telling the truth, but a lot of fun. I also had sex with many other girls in her social circle using referral game. She was definitely a stepping stone in my evolution and a wonderful crash-course in the world of older men dating VYW. This was all years ago. To this day Courtney and I still have sex occasionally though rarely,boyfriends, when she’sand in-between massive life disasters, drama, even husbands. In all seriousness I could write an entire book on just on Courtney, her life, her friends, her family, her women, and my involvement in all the above. It would sound crazier than a Hollywood screenplay. Perhaps another time…

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Chapter Two Time Did Tell: “Madison” Not all VYW are wild crazies like Courtney. She’s an extreme example. Contrary to what you might think, the majority of the type 2s out there (and type 3s actually brave enough to date older men) are just normal everyday girls. One of these was Madison, an 18 year-old, cute girl-nextdoor, farmer’s-daughter type with HUGE tits. (I like women with big boobs, if you can’t already tell.) I met her on MySpace a few years back. Back in those days, when MySpace was still big before Facebook destroyed it, I used to do big MySpace blitzes of openers and friend requests to lots of VYW. My response rate was low but the women who did respond were always very nice and very eager to talk to me (type 2s!) and I did get laid from it quite a bit. Since MySpace is not a dating site, it’s usually not a good idea to suddenly pitch a date or meetup with a girl as soon as she starts talking to you, especially if there’s an age difference. More conversation and comfort is required. Madison and I did a random back-and-forth over MySpace, off and on, for about a week. I made sure to talk about relationships and dating and she went into detail about her limited dating history. I continued the conversation over texting. I pitched a meet and she was interested. It didn’t happen. Her schedule was just too inflexible. She was going to school and working a job and didn’t have access to a car.

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Regardless of all those excuses, one day she suddenly had a boyfriend. This happens sometimes with online dating…if there’s too long of a delay for any reason, she’ll be gone, on to the next guy in her social circle. An entire year went by. She went from 18 to 19. One day I noticed her relationship status was back to “single”, so I sent her a text. She responded immediately and was happy as hell to hear from me. I got the entire story of all the drama and problems with her now ex boyfriend. He was needy, jealous, angry, got furious when she talked to other guys, constantly kissed her ass, etc. In other words, he was typical of men her age. I think he was 20 at the time. So they crashed and burned in a tornado of ridiculous drama just like most young peoples’ relationships usually do. I pitched a meet. She was down for it. Again, her schedule was terrible, but I was finally able to get her to meet me at the coffee shop section of a bookstore located inside a mall that was close to her home. I made sure I was five minutes late (using texts to confirm she was there) and met her sitting at a table in the coffee shop. She had fantastic long dark blonde hair with an average face but one of those strange bodies where everything is tiny and skinny except her huge boobs which were easily double Ds. Her boobs (and her age) were the primary reason I had emailed her in the first place. As always, I just sat down and started talking to her like we were already old friends (which in a way we were). She grew up on a farm and was happy and extremely polite. Very girl-next-door.

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I kinoed her a lot, mostly her hair. She was more than happy to oblige. To this day I still remember how so damn compliant Madison was. At about an hour, I gave her a hug and got the hell out of there since I needed to make a business appointment. (I was dressed in business attire since that was what she was used to seeing on my MySpace pictures.) About a week later our second “date” was her just coming over to my house to “hang out”. This is an important point. Men seem to think that on a date or a “meet” you need to go out and “do” something. You don’t, especially with much younger women. VYW are used to going to friends’ houses to just hang out. I used the fact I had a Nintendo Wii (that my used) overbut at they my place to entice Madison. (Women love Wii.) hatekids video games We never even got to the Wii. Most of the time we just sat on my couch and talked. Knowing it was time to escalate, I started talking about sex. This conversation moved toward the topic of her body. Apparently her boobs were so large she always wore a reducer, and she was wearing one at that very minute. My heart leapt with joy. Did that mean she had triple Ds? Soon I was touching her hair, then her face, then were making out. I was shocked at how skilled a kisser she was. Most VYW are terrible kissers (hell, most women are terrible kissers), but occasionally you get one who is amazing. She was. In no time we were on my floor, my hands all over her. Then her shirt was off and I was sucking her fabulously giant tits. I moved to take her pants off and…no go. She had a “five date rule” she said. Five dates? That was a new one. Most women have a three date rule, not five.

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Regardless, I knew from past experiences that women’s stated “three date rule” (or five in this case) is all bullshit. I’ve had sex with plenty of women on the second date who had this “rule”. However try as I might, I could not get those pants off. I could squeeze her ass all I wanted, and I did. I could rub her pussy through her pants, and I did. I could play and suck those amazing tits, but the pants would not come off no matter what I tried. I went to a fallback position and tried to get her to blow me. No go there either. So I just threw her back on the floor and enjoyed the rest of her body, namely those supertits. The third date never happened. Less than about two weeks after our encounter, she suddenly had a new boyfriend again. Oh well. This was years ago. To this day Madison and I still communicate occasionally She’s one of this hardcore “can’t ever be alone” serial monogamists who always has a serious boyfriend. Maybe time will tell again…

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Chapter Three The Virgin: “Megan” Megan is one of my more unusual VYW stories. Perhaps “unlikely” would be a better word. One day I came across 19 year-old Megan’s profile on OKCupid while doing searches for newly-added VYW profiles. Her profile was odd in that none of her pictures showed her face. The closest was one that showed her chin under a wide-brimmed hat that covered the rest of her face. I thought, “Well, it’s clear she’s not overweight. And she’s 19. So why not?” I sent her an opener. She responded, and we had a brief IM conversation. I asked her about the fact she did not show her face. She was paranoid about having her face so “public”. Odd. Most VYW like the attention they get online and love to show pics of themselves. Even the ugly ones. Regardless, she seemed interested and very intelligent. We happened to live in the same neighborhood so I used that as a point of commonality. I moved the conversation to texting and I told her to friend request me on both MySpace and Facebook and she did. In both cases, there were still no pictures of her face. Damn! I finally told her to email me a picture of herself since it was only “fair” since she clearly had seen many pics of me. I was not going to meet up with a woman sight unseen, no matter what. I strongly recommend you adhere to the same rule if you’re using online game as your weapon of choice.

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She was very reluctant, but she did so. I clicked her email, expecting to see an ugly duckling. Instead I smiled ear-to-ear when I saw her fuzzy cell-phone picture pop up on my screen. She was cute, with extremely long brown hair and a very moody look to her. The only thing odd: she was extremely tall, as in almost 6’1” when barefoot. I’m 6’0” with shoes on. Whatever. Cute is cute no matter how tall it is. Especially when it’s 19. I pitched a meet. She was extremely reluctant. She dropped the next surprise on me by revealing she was a virgin. She had only one boyfriend since age 16 who she recently broke up with. They had “done things” like go down on each other, but apparently the cock never went inside the pussy. Some guys are turned off by virgins and others are turned on by them. I’m indifferent. I simply realized that if I was going to meet this girl, much less get sexual with her, I would have to move slowly and carefully. So I did. I think it took all of three weeks of occasional texting before she agreed to a meet. (Which was fine, since I was always dating and having sex with other women in the meantime. See how I never focus on just one woman at a time like most guys do? If there’s one recurring theme in every book I write, it’s that one. It changes everything in your frame when dealing with new women.) We met at a Starbucks. Not my favorite choice, but it was the only location she felt comfortable with. I walked in (5 minutes late as usual) and as I approached I could see in her big brown eyes that she was petrified. A virgin, who had never been on a date in her life, now on an almost “blind” date with a guy almost 20 years older than her. Now that I think about it, she was pretty brave.

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We started talking. Unlike most VYW I’ve dated, it took her a long time to relax and open up. Most younger women get happy and bubbly within the first 10-15 minutes or so. Megan took much longer. When she did, all she could talk about was her job (and hopefully future career) as a theatre technician. She was a hardcore “singular” (refer to chapter ten in the main younger woman book). As such, she went on and on about lighting, scaffolding, special effects, sound equipment, and all that stuff. She loved it. I was just glad she was able to open up to me. At the end of the hour went outside (since it was summer and nice) and talked for a bit out there, where I kinoed her hands, arms, and hair. She was nervous at my touch but did not resist. As usual, I made sure to not even try to kiss. The second “date” was at that same exact stupid Starbucks again. I never do this, since the more different locations a woman sees you in, the more comfortable she becomes with you. Again, that was all she would agree to, since it was a “known” location for her. I knew sex would not happen so I made sure it was just an hour like the first date was. At the end, when we were talking outside again, we made out in the parking lot. Her kissing was bad, but most women’s kissing is bad so I’m used to it. Considering she was a virgin it wasn’t that bad. On the third “date” she agreed to come over to my house. To my surprise, at my place she was very relaxed. All the nervousness from the first two dates were pretty much gone. She talked and talked about theatre tech just like always. I made sure to talk about sex and relationships too, and she followed my lead and went into detail regarding all the

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turmoil of emotions she felt around her ex boyfriend, both post-breakup and when they were dating. I kinoed her much more this time. I don’t remember exactly how I did it, but suddenly we were kissing, then we were on the floor. She was a little nervous when I attempted to take her shirt off, so I forgot about the shirt and moved to take her pants off, which she allowed me to do. Notice this is the exact opposite of what happened with Madison, where she would not let me take off her pants but happily let me take off her bra and shirt. Sexually speaking, different women have different areas of comfort and worry, and sometimes if your escalation efforts don’t work in one area, you need to try another area until you find the one where she’s comfortable. For Megan, the World’s Tallest Virgin, this was her pants. I had them off in seconds. God she had a nice ass. After playing with that a bit I slowly went to take the panties off and this is where she stopped me. Shit! So I stopped trying to remove the panties and just went under them, on her ass and rubbing her virgin pussy. This, she allowed. But that was it. I tried and I tried and I tried. Gently, but forcefully. None of my techniques worked, including freeze outs. She was virgin, so it’s not like I was super surprised. I could go under the shirt and panties all I liked, and she liked that, but they would not actually come off. So, like with Madison, I just enjoyed what I could enjoy. On our fourth date, she just came over again, but this time she allowed even less clothes to come off. It was a case of buyer’s remorse, virgin style.

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I have a personal rule that states there must be sex by the second date or at least a clear sexual progression by the second date (as in every subsequent date more things happen), or I stop dating the woman. I don’t date without sex. That’s for AFCs. Therefore after the fourth date I didn’t text her again. She texted me and I did respond, but I didn’t bother to meet up with her again. In time, she got a boyfriend and moved about an hour away to her new college. She would still occasionally text me. She said she was still a virgin with this new guy and still had not had CIP (cock-in-pussy) sex with him yet. Megan had some major purity Disney fantasies so I tend to believe it. But who knows? About nine months later when she visited her parents, who lived right in my neighborhood, she hit me up and wanted to hang out. So she hung out at my house one more time. I tried to escalate but got nowhere. She was trying not to cheat on her new boyfriend (who she hated and who was a constant problem, by the way) and she was trying to maintain her virginity. Sometimes you have to cut bait on the difficult ones, no matter how enticing. Regardless, know that if a VYW is a virgin your odds of success go way down no matter how good you are. No virgin cigar for me this time, but I came close.

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Chapter Four Once And Gone: “Jennifer” Jennifer is one of my more recent younger women. What I’m about to describe happened just a few months ago in early 2011. Jennifer was one of many women from a huge online blitz I did where I sent out over 100 email openers over a period of several weeks. She was a cute 19 year-old redhead with a very funky, artsy style. She answered my opener saying that she did not qualify as one of the attractive women I say I like in my profile. I wrote back, saying that I should probably be the judge of that, and we carried on a quick email conversation and an IM conversation. I pitched a meet soon, as I always do. She was extremely nervous. After a few brief text conversations I finally got her to meet up with me. I just kept asking, over and over again, but nicely. We lived in the same area and met up at a park while she was babysitting a little boy. (Remember what I said in the main younger woman book about parks being a good place for first or second “dates” with VYW.) We spent about an hour together, waking around the park and watching him play on the play structures. She was very fiery and sarcastic. (I hate to say it but the stereotypes regarding redheads are accurate…Courtney was a fiery redhead too and I’ve dated several others in my day.) We talked about all the “good” topics during that time. I found that she had two boyfriends in the past, but the big revelation was she got sexual with one of her ex-high school teachers, a

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married man about 30 years old. (She did this when she was already 19 so it was legal.) No actual cock-in-pussy sex; apparently they just did oral on each other. Bingo. Type 2. I was very happy to hear all of this. I made sure to wrap up the “date” as fast as I could, knowing sexual escalation was impossible with her little boy around. I gave her a big hug and went on my way. About 30 minutes later, she sent me a text telling me that I need some updated pictures on my online dating profile since I was “much more attractive in real life.” A nice compliment. Most compliments I get from women are about my presence, wit, and masculinity. Rarely do I get them regarding my appearance so that was nice. All the fashion and skin regimen stuff (that I talked about in the main younger woman ebook) was paying off. I knew it was on. After a little banter I made sure to schedule the second date right then and there. As usual, she had no car, and lived with her grandmother and a few other siblings, so I picked her up at the same park where we met, which was walking distance from her house. As I pulled up, it was clear she had dressed up for me. She was wearing a cute purple outfit complete with matching socks and shiny girly shoes. It was like going out on a date with a combination of Punky Brewster and Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz. As we drove back to my place I asked her if she was hungry and to see if she wanted to stop and eat first. She said she wasn’t. Good.

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We arrived at my house and I gave her the grand tour as I always do when women visit my home for the first time. I want to make sure they’re comfortable with my house and my domain; I want them to feel safe with me. It’s critical. Then we played the UNO card game (which is a great game to play with VYW by the way). They all know how to play it and get very excited when you tell them you have a set of UNO cards. After a few UNO games (where kicked my ass while I kinoed her a great deal) we talked a little more and soon she was on my couch. I could tell she was nervous getting my face close to hers, at one point even physically turning away from me during some intense kino while spouting some sarcastic comments. I used that opportunity to feel her ass and the backs of her legs. She didn’t resist. My hands moved up into her skirtaand rubbing herI moved pussy. She started moaning. After fewstarted moments of that her to the floor and laid her down on a blanket. Most women, the vast majority in fact, need to be kissed before they get fucked. However rarely you’ll run into a woman who is more nervous about kissing than she is about actually having sex. Weird but true. Jennifer was one of those. As has been a repeating theme in this book, there are times you need to modify your sexual escalation based on what women desire or are comfortable with. Once on the floor, Jennifer and I were having sex very quickly. She was loud, extremely verbal, and it was fantastic. When I fingered her it was clear she loved it and had never been touched that way before. She was very wet and my blanket was quite damp.

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When we were done she kept on talking about it, making both positive and sarcastic comments about it, laughing and joking about how I “came all over her” (which I did). A few days later during a text conversation I told her we should hang out again. She responded by saying she suddenly had a new boyfriend. When I demonstrated my confusion she said she thought I was only interested in sex. I told her she was mistaken (which was the truth) but if she already had a new boyfriend it was probably too late for us anyway. (I gave her something, then I took it away.) A week later she said she had already broken up with the new boyfriend (big shock) and said that she missed me (big shock). I tried another meet but she said she was busy until the following week. A few days later I sent her a text. No response. I sent her another text a few days later. No response. So I forgot about her and moved on. This was all a few months ago. We had one friendly text conversation since then but I really didn’t attempt to meet up, namely because my woman-schedule at the time was a little full. I may never see Jennifer again, or I may. It’s hard to tell when I’ve had sex with a woman one time. As I talk about in my open relationships ebook, women are locked into you after having sex with you twice. But just once, it’s still a crap shoot. Jennifer has only been once (at least as of this writing). Most women I have sex with more than once; that’s always my objective. One night stands are rare for me, but it they do occasionally happen. Oh well. It was VERY fun while it lasted. Jennifer’s a very cool chick.

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Chapter Five Don’t Karaoke!: “Kelsey” I had never paid attention to Asian women up until a few years ago. Way back when I was dating Courtney from chapter one, I met one of her 18 year-old girlfriends, a short cute Asian girl. Unlike most Asians, she one actually had big boobs and very well-defined hips. Her and I also had very similar interests and personality traits, so I was instantly into her. Using Courtney and some referral game, I had sex with little miss Asian and it was amazing. From then on, I was sold on Asian women…just as long as they curvy bodies mosthad Asian women dowith not).hips and boobs (and frankly, Fast forward a few years, and I see 21 year-old Kelsey’s profile on Plenty of Fish. Asian, half Chinese and half southeast Asian but born and raised in the U.S. I could tell from her pics she had that curvy figure I love, and bigbreasted Asian women are rare and wonderful jewels, at least in my world. Too bad I was about to fuck this up. Really bad. We meet up at a very cool bar for our first date. Surprisingly, she didn’t drink much. Most 21 year-olds are insane drinkers because of their new drinking-legal age. She was very hot. Asian, huge tits, nice hips, very dark skin and eyes, perfect lips, perfect thick long hair. We talked for a very long time, well past the one hour I usually limit my first dates to. (Mistake number one.) I found out she actually sang semi-professionally (but made very little

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money doing it) and that her last boyfriend was in his 40s (she’s a type 2!). I did not kino as best as I could have (mistake number two), but regardless toward the end of our date as we were walking around I could see she was begging for a kiss. So I kissed her. (Mistake number three.) For our second date, I had a different bar in mind, but she desperately wanted to go karaoke to she could sing. I didn’t see anything wrong with that so I agreed. (Though I hadn’t realized it yet, that was mistake number four.) On the way to the bar, in the car, we made out a little. Things were looking really good. I was excited. We got to the bar, ordered some drinks, talked some more, kinoed some more, and waited for our turns to karaoke. It was her turn first. She went up, the music started, her mouth opened, and holy crap. She instantly stunned the entire place. Her singing was every bit as good as a worldfamous professional. Everyone was enraptured at her perfect voice and stunning presence as sang some Dolly Parton country western tune (which, judging by the size of Kelsey’s chest, was appropriate). When she finished, there was a standing ovation. I’m not exaggerating or making this up. People in the bar, men and women both, actually stood up and clapped and cheered as she made her way back to her seat by me. I was extremely impressed and told her so. She smiled. Apparently she was used to this kind of attention. Then it was my turn to get up and sing.

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Let me stop here and say that while I have a very good voice and I know how to sing reasonably well, I have an extremely limited octave range and I can only sing well if it’s a song I specifically rehearse. The music I listen to his hard metal…not really something you can sing. So I walked up to the microphone and selected Fly Me To The Moon by Frank Sanatra, a song I occasionally sing in the shower. The music began! I took command of the audience using eye contact and body language as I have so many other times when I do public speaking. Opened my mouth! I sang! And…..I sucked! I guess my unrehearsed singing voice doesn’t sound as good to as it does in the shower. I sang beautiful I could seeothers a horrified look to of me embarrassment onAs Kelsey’s face. She averted her eyes every time I looked at her in the audience. When the song was over, there was dead silence from the crowd as I made my way back over to her. (Mistake number five.) She was very polite and very nice, but there was an instant and definite change in the dynamic between us. Regardless, we talked for a little while longer before I drove her back home, since she “had to get home to study.” Or something. As I pulled up to her house to drop her off, she turned to me in the car, smiled, and gave me the Let’s Just Be Friends speech. Not that I was surprised to get it. Let me clear about something. Despite all of the prior little mistakes I made, I’m confident that I could have still laid

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Kelsey had I not gotten up there and sang (or even better, not gone to a karaoke place with her before fucking her twice). But once I got up there and sang like a wounded rooster, that was the end of me and Kelsey. Let my pain be your wisdom. Never, ever do anything “different” or “creative” or “outside the box” with a woman during the seduction phase until after you’ve had sex with her at least twice. Before that happens, keep the dates (hopefully no more than two of them) to just drinks and that’s it. No matter how hard she tries, no dinner dates, no rock-climbing dates (or whatever) and absolutely no karaoke!

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Chapter Six She Forgot To Tell Me She Was Married: “Jess” Oh, this was a fun one. It was years ago and still makes me smile to this day. Sending online openers one day I see Jess on Plenty of Fish and I immediately come to a complete stop. Not only was she young (22 years old) but she was absolutely smoking gorgeous. Small, short, amazing body, perfect blonde hair, amazing face, everything I like. I sent her an opener and she responded very quickly. Soon we were having a conversation over texts. She tells me about all kinds of drama she’s having with her recent ex boyfriend whom she has a child with. Due to their disputes the child was with him temporarily, not her. (Which I always consider a good thing for obvious reasons.) Though she was somewhat nervous, she agreed to meet up for a date. She had no car so I picked her up at her apartment (where she lived alone, which I remember thinking was unusual) and I was going to take her to a bar. However I had just come from work, had not eaten all day and was starving. So I changed things on the fly and asked if she was hungry. She said she was, so I took her to very cheap but very good Mexican restaurant that was only five minutes away. Side note. If you’re a very busy guy like I am, this sometimes happens. You’ll be about to start a first date at a bar, but you’ll be starving because you haven’t eaten in a

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while. If you’re not careful, you’ll suddenly want to change the date into a restaurant so you can eat. You need to avoid this. Nowadays I always keep almonds, bottled water, and little yogurts in my car, so no matter how hungry I might get in a busy day, I can always wolf down some food and refocus. I strongly suggest you do the same. Back to Jess. Restaurant first date. Usually a no-no. But I kept it to a very cheap place and I was starving, so I rationalized it that way (for better or for worse). We talked for few minutes on the way and I could tell she was nervous. Not a big deal. VYW often are in the first few minutes, especially when those first few minutes of the date are in a strange man’s car. No worries. As soon as we got out of the car I could tell she was loosening up. Man, once I got a good look at her out of the car, I was smitten. She was so hot…the exact perfect look I like in a woman. Damn near my personal “ten”. Once we sat down and started talking, my attraction just kept on getting worse. “Worse” as in more intense. She was so smoking hot I had trouble concentrating. The one thing that kept me grounded was it was clear she was drama queen and she wasn’t that smart, both of which are turn-offs for me. She went on and on about all her problems with her ex, her ex before that, her medical problems, and her family problems. If I wasn’t so turned on I would have been exhausted listening to her life. Regardless, I enjoyed her. All that drama simply meant she would have to be an FB rather than an MLTR once we started having sex. Not a problem. I love FBs.

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We had some good Mexican food, laughed a lot, and I kinoed her a lot. I had another first date scheduled right after her so when we were done I dropped her back at her place. Later she sent me a text asking if I thought she was “okay”. Always a good sign. If a woman sends you a text after a first date before you send her one, that’s the Ultimate IOI, as I describe in my Get To Sex Fast ebook. It means you’re getting laid. I gave her the standard answer I always give at that point: “I’m not sure yet.” For our second date I had to pick her up at her apartment once again. The problem was twofold. One, she lived quite a ways away (about 50 minutes driving distance from my house) and second, she had no phone, so I could not confirm things or when I arrived. (She texting me using aenroute shared apartment computer andhad herbeen Yahoo Messenger account.) Regardless, I wanted to fuck her so badly I went for it anyway. Plus, I had already met her, and the date went great, and she had given me the Ultimate IOI. What would possibly go wrong? Well, a lot. After driving 50 minutes I arrived at her apartment. I parked, went to the building entrance, and buzzed her room. A man answered. The conversation went something like this: Him: Hello. Me: Hi. Is Jess there? Him: Who is this? Me: It’s Blackdragon. Who is this?

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Him: This is her husband. Me: Really? Jess has a husband, huh? Him: Uh, hell yeah she does! Me: Well, that’s great. I’m here to pick her up for our DATE tonight but that’s probably not going to happen. It was nice talking to you. And by the way, you might want to ask your sweet little angel what she does in her free time when you’re not around. Bye! I turned around and left. I got back in my car and did what I always do when a new date doesn’t work out. I texted one of the other women I was dating at the time, set her up for later that evening, and got laid. A little while later Jess sends me a flurry of texts about how sorry she was, how she was going to tell me, how they were getting a divorce, how he wasn’t supposed to be there, blah, blah, blah. No thanks. Not only did she lie to me in a pretty big way but she put me in a position to get directly involved in her life drama…drama I had nothing to do with. Oh, and did I forget to mention that this “ex” who was her husband was a huge, ripped, muscular guy almost 20 years younger than me who took steroids and had a history of violence? Fun. I was tempted to overlook all of this and just fuck her anyway, but I have a strong no-drama policy in my life and I didn’t see any way to fuck her and avoid her chaos. As you can probably tell, I have no problem dating women who have lots of drama in their lives. Women often do, younger women often more so. However I don’t want that drama spilling over to me and my life, and that’s a big difference. What a disappointment Jess was, in many ways. Oh well!

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Chapter Seven The Jackpot: “Tiffany” Tiffany is one on the short list of my absolute best success stories. (One of the others is Lauren, who you’ll hear about in chapter nine.) She was (and still is) a success in dating, online dating, fast seduction, VYW, open relationships, and referral game. A win/win/win all the way around. Several years back, just as an experiment, I hopped on MySpace and ran a search for every 18 or 19 year old within 25 miles of my house who had just been online that day. I launched off 20 emails to the 20 hottest girls in my search. As usual, I just looked their photos. I completely their profiles and their at “relationship status” and evenignored sent emails to women who said they were “In a relationship” or “Engaged”, knowing from past experience that words like “relationship”, “boyfriend”, and “engaged” don’t mean much to VYW. All I said in the opener was this: You seem interesting. If you want to chat, let me know. That was it. Out of the 20 emails, I got four responses, three of the four were very positive. One of them was Tiffany, a gorgeous 18 year-old Asian who was only a few days away from her 19th birthday. We chatted back and forth on MySpace about things like fun and family. I gave her my cell number and told her to text me. In response she emailed me her cell number, and we started texting.

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Within minutes the texting turned into a phone call where we chatted for about 20 minutes while I attemped, mostly successfully, to work through her thick Asian accent. I pitched a meet at her favorite mall for the very next day and she agreed. We met at the food court of the mall and talked for about two hours (this was before I implemented my one-hour-max rule for first dates). She was cute, feminine, and fun. We talked, laughed, and I kinoed her a lot. When I got to up to leave she looked upset and said I “needed to eat”. So I let her buy me lunch. Who am I to say no? Shortly after that we wrapped it up. It was clear she wanted to see me again. For our second “date” I picked her up at her place (as usual, she didn’t have a car or even a driver’s license) and took her to another mall, this one very close to my house so I could easily take her there afterwards. In talking to her I discovered she only had dated a huge amount of guys but only had sex with one of them, and even that was a year prior and it was only a few times. In the bookstore as we looked around I really ramped up the sexual kino, touching her hair and her face. Soon, I told her we needed to go to my house because I had to “check my email”. (Any excuse works.) She agreed. After giving her the grand tour of my house, we sat together at my dining room table while I messed with my laptop. Soon she wanted to “play on the computer” and sat on my lap, where I proceeded to feel her body to my content. Soon after that we were on my couch, making out, her on top of me. Then she looked at me for a minute and actually said “We can have sex. Do you want it now?” Um, let me think about that…

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We had sex and it was almost like having sex with a virgin. Bleeding, pain, etc. That didn’t seem to bother her too much because we immediately started seeing each other once a week. This was about two and a half years ago and I’m proud to say that to this day I still see her about once a week in an open MLTR relationship. She’s been one of the most consistent woman in my life. We’ve had many fun adventures together. Threesomes, other hot VYW women she’s brought to me to have sex with, I could go on and on and on…it’s been a wild, wonderful ride. Much like the experience I had with Courtney, but without most of the drama and chaos. She’s still a woman, so she does gives me drama from time to time and soft nexts do happen, but rarely is it a big deal. If you put in the numbers, you will find women like this. They’re out there waiting for you right now.

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Chapter Eight Got Screwed: “Danni” A few years back, just a few weeks after my strikeout with Kelsey from chapter five, I had a first online date with Danni. At 23 years old, she had long dark hair, big brown eyes, a very girl-next-door look. Her face was alright, but her body was simply amazing. I still remember that day in the bar where we met, watching her move as she got up from the small table to ask the waitress something. She had one of those bodies that looked like an artist’s sculpture. She was striking. We talked for a while but realized the bar was closing. It was one of those suburban bars; those don’t stay open long. So I put her in my car and took her to one of the downtown bars to continue our conversation. Danni was very natural and very comfortable sexually. Soon I was kinoing her and she was touching me back. Soon after we were making out right there in the bar. Yes, this is a no-no, but I was still formulating my system back then. That being said, she was a fantastic kisser and had fantastic lips she knew how to use well. One the way back from the bar I squeezed her thighs and her pussy (over the clothing) with my right hand and as I drove with the left. She ate it up, not thinking or acting like there was anything wrong or unusual about it. Like I said, she was very sexually comfortable. She said it was “because she was Greek.” Right then and there I considered booking a trip to Greece.

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Nothing else happened that night. She “had” to go home to “get up early for work tomorrow”, so I bid her a good evening and headed home. Our second date was at another bar and it was during the daytime, which is another no-no, but it was the only time I could get her. I tried to get her back to my place but “she didn’t have time”. More makeouts and more feelouts, but not much else. Over texting a little later she told me she wanted to go to a dance they were putting on downtown and that she wanted her mom to come with us so I could “meet her”. Even back in my novice state at that time, I knew that having mom around on a date was a horrible idea, but for some dumb reason I can’t remember (probably horniness) I agreed to it. I tried to convince myself that it was a “good sign” she wanted me to actually “meet her mom”. It wasn’t a good sign. It never is. Like a pussy AFC, I drove out to her place, picked up her and her mom, and drove the three of us downtown. Danni was all dressed up in a sexy strapless dress, but that was irrelevant since sexual escalation was impossible with mommy right there. We danced and hung out. When mom wasn’t around, we made out and I squeezed Danni’s perfect tits. They suggested “going to dinner” but I knew that would mean me footing a $100-plus bill, so I made some excuse about getting tired or something. The evening ended. I took them both back home. We hung out at their place for a while (Danni lived at home with her mom), but nothing much happened. (If you’re thinking

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“mother-daughter threesome!”, um, Danni’s mother did not qualify. Otherwise this story would have turned out much differently.) So I drove home, alone, pissed. I made a few more attempts to see Danni again, but was always “in the hospital” regarding “something wrong with her ovaries”. STD? Could I have dodged a bullet? I never found out. Though we talked a few more times since then, I never saw Danni again. The situation with her is a perfect example of why you never want to: 1. Kiss a girl on a first date. 2. anyserious AFC 1950’s 3. Follow Spend any moneydating priormodels. to having sex with a VYW. Though I didn’t get laid, I learned a lot dealing with Danni. I didn’t forget.

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Chapter Nine Near-Perfect: “Lauren” Like Tiffany, I consider Lauren one of my great VYW success stories. It puts a huge, dumb smile on my face just to write about her, and I mean that. Lauren was a very, very cute 18 year-old I found one day on Plenty of Fish. Some freckles, beautiful deep eyes, long amazing brown hair, trim body but with a huge perfect ass, the body style I love. She responded to my opener and we chatted a bit on POF before I moved the conversation to MSN messenger so we could IM. We had one, perhaps two very deep discussions about men, women, relationships, and life. She was very much in the “singular” category I talk about. Moreover, her personality to so similar to Megan’s back in chapter three, the two girls could have been best friends. She had a “somewhat” boyfriend but was very wishy-washy about it (nothing unusual there; VYW often are wishywashy about boyfriends). She also had a child (he was not the father) which made her cautious. I tried to meet up with her though she resisted, albeit gently. Soon she emailed me and informed me she was moving across the country with her boyfriend to go live with him even though it was very clear she didn’t love him (or even like him that much!). That didn’t matter…she was a mother and had found a provider. I shrugged, wished her well, continued to focus on other women, and completely forgot about her.

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More than an entire year later, something interesting happened.

I had recently had one or two FBs/MLTRs leave my life because of some LSNFTEs, so I hopped back on the dating sites to bring in some new women. As I was poking around on Plenty of Fish, my eyes caught a picture, one of those many pictures you see on the top of the screen at POF showing women who were recently online. I hesitated. This particular picture looked vaguely familiar. Suddenly I remembered. It was Lauren! Though I had long forgotten her name, I very much remembered her picture (like most men, I’m visual). It was the exact same picture she had used the first time we talked. I fired off an email to her that just said “Hey you! It’s Blackdragon. Remember me?” Very simple. I didn’t expect anything to come of it and continued to focus on other women. She responded to my email. We emailed back and forth a bit and told her that we should meet up. She agreed instantly. She couldn’t meet up until after 10pm, so we met up at the only easy place we could find and that would allow 19 yearolds in at late hours: a local Denny’s restaurant. Hey, whatever works. Remember, VYW don’t care about fancy dates. Requiring fancy, expensive, or “romantic” first dates are what older women are about. VYW could care less. I was immediately attracted to Lauren. She was so cute, so quiet and soft spoken. So shy. So beautiful. Extremely intelligent and very mature for her age. Very much a

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singular. Along with that face and that ass, I couldn’t wait to get her into bed. After her ordering water and me ordering some onion rings, we stepped outside so she could smoke. A huge percentage of younger women smoke cigarettes so I was used to this by now. When she was done I kinoed her hair, hands, arms, and eventually her face as we talked outside in the night air. I was extremely tempted to kiss her, but I had learned by then that kissing on the first date reduced the odds of an eventual lay, not increased them. So I resisted. But I’ll be honest…it was difficult. Our second date was at my place. I don’t remember if we went somewhere first and ended up at my place or if we just went over to my place. I’m pretty sure we just went to my house. there, talked my to couch for aShe while. I kinoed Once her a lot. Sheweliked it. Ion tried kiss her. resisted slightly but eventually we kissed and it was good. However I could sense she was still nervous. I tried a few more times for further escalation but decided not to push it. So we got back in my car to take her home, but I was hungry so we stopped at a drive-thru first and parked in a nearby parking lot to eat. After eating in my car, my sexual desire overcame me and I kinoed her again was she smoked outside in the night. Soon my hands were on her ass, on her tits, rubbing her crotch. I tried to kiss but she resisted. Odd! Then she looked at me with glassy, hungry eyes and said in a very quiet voice, “I’m wet.” It finally dawned on me that like Jennifer (back in chapter four), Lauren was one of those odd women who love sex but are uncomfortable with kissing. Hey, no problem! Once I figured that out (I can be dense sometimes when my sexual desire is raging), we were back

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in the car and my hand was down her pants rubbing her bare clit. No resistance at all. She moaned and her pussy gushed. I moved to pull her pants all the way off to fuck her right there in my car. When her pants were about halfway down her legs, she looked at me and asked “Right here? In your car?” I said, “Do you want to go back to my place?” She said, “I don’t know.” Let me tell you something. When a woman ever answers “I don’t know” to a sexual question, that means YES. As soon as she said “I don’t know”, I nodded, said nothing, pulled her pants back up, started the engine, and drove her right back to my house. Fast. Within about 20 seconds of us entering my house for the second time that evening, we were having sex on my bedroom floor. It was incredible. Her body was amazing. She was amazing. As a very submissive girl I knew the odds were high that she would love to be fucked hard and rough and in a very dominant style. I was right. It was a night to remember. I dated Lauren consistently for over a year until her first LSNFTE. She would come over to my place once a week (she had her own car!) and we spent our time having deep discussions and lots of amazing sex. Amazingly, Lauren never gave me even a tiny drip of drama, placing her in my short list of Favorite Women of All Time. I mean no drama, not once, ever. Hell, even Tiffany eventually started giving me drama eventually. So had various other low-drama women I have dated over the years. But not Lauren. Not once has she ever given me drama or ask about being monogamous or complain about anything else. Heaven.

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She has LSNFTEd me a few times, but she always comes back. As of this writing she has just turned 21. She goes back and forth between looking for a provider-hunting and “having fun” modes, so she she’s in provider-hunting mode, I never see her. When the beta male AFCs have given her enough trouble (and they always do, eventually) then I see her a lot, and I’m a very happy guy when I do. Ah, if only all women could be like Lauren. A man can dream…

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Epilogue The Story Never Ends These are the nine VYW out of the many I’ve been with who I think demonstrate exactly the things you should and should not do in bringing (and keeping) younger women into your life as an older guy. With the exception of Jennifer, every women described in this book who I actually had sex with I am still having sex with to this very day, even if sporadically in some cases. Moreover, most of the women I did not have sex with I’m still in occasional contact with, and who knows? Maybe some will be like Madison or Lauren and we’ll consummate years after we actually started talking. One never knows. Of course there are many other VYW I did not write about. Talking only about the women who were very by-the-book and very easy, fast lays wouldn’t be as instructive for you. I hope you’ll agree that giving you a smattering of many different situations has been more educational. As I get older there will be many new women in my live, younger and older. Regarding the younger ones, I plan on dating VYW for a very long time, well into my 50s. One last thing. One of the reasons I included some of my failures in this book is to demonstrate that I’m not some unusual superman who is doing things you can never do. I make mistakes and screw things up just like everyone else. Every success I have had in the area of younger women as an older man you can accomplish as well, perhaps even better than I can. I hope this book has demonstrated not what’s possible for me, but what’s possible for you.

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Now get out there and do it. Those type twos are waiting. ~Blackdragon

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The Blackdragon Dating System Volume Five Part Three

Younger Women Texting and IM Transcripts Blackdragon Actual Transcripts From Younger Women I Have Dated


Younger Women Texting and IM Transcripts Revision 1.0 / September 2011 NOTICE: This manual is licensed to the srcinal purchaser only. Duplication or distribution via e-mail, floppy disk, CDROM, DVD-ROM, portable hard drive, network, printout, or any other means to a person other than the srcinal purchaser is a violation of international copyright law and subjects the violator to fines and/or imprisonment. Published By DCS International LLC. 6715 NE 63rd St. Suite #127 Vancouver, WA 98661

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Table Of Contents

About the Transcripts

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Transcript One: “Teresa”

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Transcript Two: “Mandie”

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Transcript Three: “Danni”

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About The Transcripts For this book, I went back through all my transcripts and text archives and pulled the best ones with younger women that I could show you; the ones that best demonstrate what you should do when arousing attraction, establishing comfort, and scheduling dates. What follows are actual transcripts of either texting (via cell phone) or online instant messaging of actual younger women I’ve dated at some point. I have not edited them in any way nor have I omitted anything in the individual messages except for two exceptions I’ll get to in a minute. That means the spelling, the abbreviations, all of that stuff is literally as-is, even when the spelling errors aretalking mine (and I try very hard notdoto misspell words when to women since they notice and do judge you on it, even if they themselves are misspelling words). I wanted to give you as real life a picture as I could. One of two things I omitted from the conversations were things that were completely irrelevant to the actual thrust of the conversation. The only other omissions and edits I made were to protect privacy. Sometimes I had to make some heavy omissions to ensure everyone’s anonymity, but what you do see is a copy and paste of what was said barring a series of letter X’s (“xxxxxxx”) which is where I had to make a privacy edit. As is always the case in my writings, the names of everyone have been changed. Here we go!

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Transcript One: “Teresa” This is a text conversation I had with “Teresa”, a tall halfblack 21 year old I dated briefly. We had already emailed back and forth a little on MySpace, but not much, and attempted to meet up for a date which she flaked and canceled. This conversation picks up shortly after that. Teresa was extremely sexual…notice how fast she jumped onto the sexual topic as soon as I brought it up. She’s one of the few women I got sexual with on the very first date. Notice how I just switch the conversation to dating and then to her and I meeting up, without looking for a conversational segue. This is important. Lots of guys are always asking how to “change the subject” to schedule a date or whatever. You usually don’t need to. Just do it! Here it is: Teresa: hey Blackdragon: Hey. Who is this? Teresa: this is teresa! haha remember me? Blackdragon: Oh yeah. How are you darling? Teresa: Im well. although at this moment im laying inn bed close to death cause im soooooo hungI over! Blackdragon: can imagine! After halloween, damn. What were u last night? Teresa: i was a latina lol it was great Blackdragon: A black latina???? Haha. You smartass! Teresa: hey people already think im a mexican i figured why not Blackdragon: What the hell? You don't look mexican at all. Weird. Teresa: i know! haha how was ur night? Blackdragon: It was fun. Took my little one trickortrearing, then went to a party until

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about 2am. Lotta hot slutty chicks on halloween lol. Teresa: nice! Blackdragon: How's your dating / sex life been? Teresa: its been good. nothing to exciting but good ;-) how about urs? Blackdragon: I never go without sex for long stretches. I just can't. Dating has been OK. Cool people but no one amazing. Teresa: yep i know what u mean Blackdragon: Sometimes its a pain to have a really high sex drive. :) Teresa: lol yyyep but thats why god gave us sex toys ;-) well for me anyways Blackdragon: Ah. All I have are furry handcuffs. :). What kind of vibrator do you have? Teresa: haha im a lady, i dont kiss and tell Blackdragon: Haha. So uptight! Lol!!!!!! Probably don't want to use it too much anyway....might blunt ur sexual skills. Teresa: lol yyyyeah right Blackdragon: Haha. We should get together sometime. Teresa: definitely, go out have a drink Blackdragon: Can u drink? How old are you now? Teresa: 21 Blackdragon: Cool. You're part of the human race now lol. Teresa: i know! thats how i feel! haha finally a big kid Blackdragon: When are you free next? Teresa: when ever ;-) Blackdragon: Tonight? Or are you still going to be hungover? Teresa: haha definitely not tonight... i don't plan on leaving my bed Blackdragon: That's kinda what I thought. :) I'll hit you up tomorrow or Tues then.

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Teresa: sounds good to me! so what are u doing today? Blackdragon: I'm going to clean the house and then go play blackjack at the casino. :) Teresa: Fun! we should go out the coast Blackdragon: Yeah. That would be cool. The coast is fun. Teresa: Yep, go to the casino Blackdragon: I'm a big blackjack player. I'm in vegas a lot too. I'm thinking about going pro. Teresa: Nice!! im pretty good at blackjact Blackdragon: Cool. Teresa: Yes sir Teresa: sooooooo whats up hott stuff Blackdragon: how you would be in bed. Teresa: Lol ohWondering yeah Blackdragon: Yeah. Blackdragon: I wouldn't know since I've never been with a black chick. :) Teresa: What do u think? Blackdragon: Like I said, I don't know. Maybe you're terrible. Maybe you're really prude. Maybe you're great. I don't know. Teresa: Lol oh i see Teresa: so what are u like in bed? Blackdragon: I'm very dominant. Teresa: Yum Blackdragon: If you're a good girl maybe you'll find out. Teresa: Oh u want a good girl do u? Blackdragon: A good girl does what she's told in bed. ;) Teresa: mmmhm

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Blackdragon: Hey you. Teresa: Hey Blackdragon: Workin or going to school today? Teresa: Both Blackdragon: Damn. Ur busy. Teresa: Only until like 6 Blackdragon: U want to hang tonight? Its my last free eve this week. Teresa: Sure what do u want to go? Blackdragon: What part of town will you be coming from? Teresa: Ne Blackdragon: Let's grab a drink then. Teresa: when and where? Blackdragon: Ever been to xxxxxxx? Teresa: Yep Blackdragon: It will be a little later, like 8 ish. Teresa: Ok Blackdragon: You sure you can make it tonight? Blackdragon: Sometimes you flake, Darling. :) Teresa: Yeah Teresa: haha yeah yeah Blackdragon: Haha. You dork! Ok. Lol Teresa: lol ur a dork!! Blackdragon: I know!!!!! :) Blackdragon: I'll text u later on the eve to give a specific time. I'm guessing 8 but it could be a little later. Cool? Teresa: i guess so :-) Blackdragon: K Blackdragon: Want to meet there in 30 min? Teresa: im having dinner with my girlfriends, how about 830?

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Blackdragon: Ok. Teresa: prefect ;-) see u then Blackdragon: ;) Teresa: thanks for a fun night Blackdragon: Anytime. ;) Teresa: so what are u doing now? Blackdragon: Just went to bed. My fun is over for the eve lol Teresa: oh no! haha im heading to bed soon Blackdragon: U can stay up late tonight. I can't. Sux. :) Teresa: I know, to bad we couldnt "talk" more Blackdragon: We should continue our 'conversation'Yes. soon. Teresa: Haha yeah? think u can have fun with me? Blackdragon: I'm not 100 percent sure about you yet, but so far so good. :) Teresa: Haha whats that mean? Blackdragon: Its all good, trust me. Teresa: Haha okay good Blackdragon: Mmmmm. It is. But I'm falling asleep so I'll have to ttyl. Teresa: Okay sweet dreams. Ttyl Blackdragon: I told your story about your ex and his gf getting in your face and what you did to a friend of mine. She said 'That's awesome!'. :) Teresa: ahahahah! Nice

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Blackdragon: You're such a little badass. Teresa: lol oh u think so huh? Blackdragon: Well...I know your skin tastes good. Teresa: haha oh yeah? Blackdragon: Mmmmm. Teresa: do what did u think of me in general? Blackdragon: I think you should see me sunday or monday eve. Teresa: haha okay, but what did u think of me? lol Blackdragon: I think so far so good. We got along well that night. Teresa: yeah we did haha We had sex the next time we met. We hooked up for a few weeks as pure FBs until she floated away. She’s a perfect example of a woman who is sexual right from the get-go. Some younger women will be this easy, as long as you put in the numbers.

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Transcript Two: “Mandie” Mandie was a 19 year-old college freshman I met on Yahoo Personals back when it was still around (it’s long gone now). I was 36 at the time. You can see in the conversation how I handled the age difference. We had a very fast first date at a Starbucks that was less than 45 minutes, then had sex on the second date in less than two hours. This is a transcript of a Yahoo Messenger IM conversation we had right after she responded to my opener on the personals site, so this is literally the first communication we ever had (other than two or three emails on the dating site). Blackdragon (8:56:30 PM): Had a nice day today? Mandie (8:56:44 PM): PM): what yeah itabout was pretty Mandie (8:56:47 you? great Blackdragon (8:57:04 PM): Oh yeah. I'm glad to be back to "stuff" after all the damn snow. Blackdragon (8:57:05 PM): :) Mandie (8:57:16 PM): haha Mandie (8:57:27 PM): i spent most of it on the beach in xxxxxx. Blackdragon (8:57:34 PM): Where? xxxxxxx? Mandie (8:57:38 PM): xxxxxxxxx Blackdragon (8:57:48 PM): Hm...I've never been there...is it nice? Mandie (8:57:59 PM): it's a small little beach town Mandie (8:58:09 PM): kinda like xxxxxxx maybe? Blackdragon (8:58:12 PM): Ah. Mandie (8:58:14 PM): more quiant though Blackdragon (8:58:23 PM): Do you have family there? Or friends? Mandie (8:58:42 PM): yeah my moms side of the family was born and raised there Blackdragon (8:58:51 PM): Did you grow up here then?

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Mandie (8:59:06 PM): born in xxxxxxxxxx Mandie (8:59:17 PM): lived there till was 8 Mandie (8:59:27 PM): then i was adopted by my grandmother and moved here Mandie (8:59:29 PM): =] Blackdragon (8:59:33 PM): Really? Mandie (8:59:34 PM): what an opening eh? Blackdragon (8:59:39 PM): Why adopted??? Mandie (8:59:54 PM): my birth mom couldn't provide Mandie (9:00:02 PM): was a drugie and and all that Blackdragon (9:00:11 PM): Crap. Do you live alone now or with Grandma? Mandie (9:00:20 PM): grandmother Blackdragon (9:00:26 PM): To you have sibs? Mandie (9:00:28 PM): it's a nice set up Mandie (9:00:35 PM): yeah a younger brother Blackdragon (9:00:56 PM):you Wow...is that lets you do whatever want? your Or isGrandma she strict?the type Mandie (9:01:16 PM): we used to butt heads a lot Mandie (9:01:23 PM): but we get along fine now Blackdragon (9:01:29 PM): Yeah...you seem strong-willed. Mandie (9:01:33 PM): so long as i'm not pushing drugs or anything Blackdragon (9:01:42 PM): Yeah, that's good. :) Mandie (9:01:48 PM): tell me about yourself now Mandie (9:01:57 PM): i just gave you an epic story Mandie (9:02:00 PM): =] Blackdragon (9:02:04 PM): I'm a professional javelin catcher. Blackdragon (9:02:11 PM): JK Mandie (9:02:12 PM): really? Mandie (9:02:14 PM): haha Mandie (9:02:16 PM): k good Blackdragon (9:02:21 PM): I'm actually a calculator repairman. Blackdragon (9:02:26 PM): JK again. Blackdragon (9:02:33 PM): What would you like to know?

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Mandie (9:02:47 PM): where were you raised? Mandie (9:02:53 PM): how did you end up here? Blackdragon (9:03:01 PM): I was born here, been here my whole life.... Blackdragon (9:03:10 PM): That's probably why I travel as much as I do... Blackdragon (9:03:16 PM): I was born at xxxxxx hospital in xxxxxxxxx. Mandie (9:03:16 PM): where have you been? Blackdragon (9:03:47 PM): Mm...all over. All over the US, Asia, Mexico, etc. Mandie (9:03:56 PM): been to europe? Blackdragon (9:04:07 PM): I work with CEO's and CFO's on how to run their companies, and sometimes they are outside of the country. Mandie (9:04:13 PM): right Blackdragon (9:04:13 PM): Yes, Germany and a few other spots. Blackdragon (9:04:20 PM): No, that part is true. Mandie (9:04:22 PM): i love europe Blackdragon (9:04:22 PM): :) Blackdragon (9:04:44 PM): I'm also a professional speaker and do lots of speeches and seminars and things like that. Mandie (9:04:46 PM): haven't been to germany yet though Blackdragon (9:04:52 PM): I speak very broken German. :) Mandie (9:04:54 PM): that's cool Mandie (9:05:02 PM): is that what you've always wanted to do? Blackdragon (9:05:11 PM): Oh yeah...it was my plan all along. Mandie (9:05:18 PM): that's good Blackdragon (9:05:22 PM): Took me a while to get there, but now it's all good. Mandie (9:05:28 PM): great Mandie (9:05:33 PM): that's good for you Blackdragon (9:05:33 PM): Go to Vegas a lot too. Mandie (9:05:35 PM): =]

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Mandie (9:05:39 PM): oh vegas Blackdragon (9:05:57 PM): I have a regular room at xxxxxx. It's incredible. Blackdragon (9:05:58 :) Mandie (9:06:08 PM): PM): you lucky guy Mandie (9:06:11 PM): shucks Blackdragon (9:06:14 PM): Aw, shucks! Blackdragon (9:06:16 PM): Haha. Mandie (9:06:18 PM): =] Blackdragon (9:06:27 PM): Are you working or in school right now? Mandie (9:06:31 PM): school Mandie (9:06:48 PM): working + school doesn't really mix too well Blackdragon (9:07:04 PM): I agree. It's a real bitch to do both. Then you have no life at all. Mandie (9:07:11 PM): exactly Mandie (9:07:13 PM): this way Mandie (9:07:18 PM): i have some sort of personal life Blackdragon (9:07:26 PM): Have you been dating? Mandie (9:07:34 PM): well Mandie (9:07:44 PM): for most of college i was a relationship Mandie (9:07:53 PM): but he goes to school in la Blackdragon (9:07:58 Ah.just broke up a few months Mandie (9:08:10 PM):PM): we only ago, so I'm trying it out Mandie (9:08:33 PM): i know your profile said you don't wanna hear about ex's and drama, so that's all i'm gonna say about that Blackdragon (9:08:39 PM): Haha. Blackdragon (9:08:41 PM): Good! Blackdragon (9:08:47 PM): How long have you been single then? Mandie (9:08:48 PM): i hate drama Blackdragon (9:08:52 PM): SO DO I. Mandie (9:08:58 PM): since november?

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Mandie (9:09:03 PM): yeah Blackdragon (9:09:05 PM): Any dating since then or no? Mandie (9:09:14 PM): i have seen a guy or two Mandie (9:09:23 PM): but none that i identify with Blackdragon (9:09:51 PM): Yeah, you come off as intelligent and forceful. Maybe some guys can't relate. Blackdragon (9:09:56 PM): And you cant relate to them. Mandie (9:09:57 PM): i guess Mandie (9:10:01 PM): i have no idea Blackdragon (9:10:11 PM): How long where you in that relationship then? Blackdragon (9:10:15 PM): were Mandie (9:10:21 PM): two years Blackdragon (9:10:24 PM): Wow. Blackdragon (9:10:25 PM): Long time. Mandie (9:10:30 PM): yep Blackdragon (9:10:35 PM): Did it end badly or OK? Mandie (9:10:43 PM): badly for me, ok for him Mandie (9:10:48 PM): i never saw it coming Blackdragon (9:10:49 PM): Mmm. Blackdragon (9:10:53 PM): Ug. Mandie (9:10:55 PM): but whatever Blackdragon (9:10:56 PM): Yuck. Blackdragon (9:10:58 PM): I know the feeling. Mandie (9:11:03 PM): yeah Mandie (9:11:13 PM): it stinks, but that's life and you move on Blackdragon (9:11:33 PM): That's right. Actually, it means there is someone out there better for you. Someone more compatible, and more desirable to you. Mandie (9:11:49 PM): exactly Mandie (9:12:02 PM): that and i'm young Mandie (9:12:14 PM): so why tie myself to the first guy right? Blackdragon (9:12:21 PM): True... Mandie (9:12:29 PM): *shrug*

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Blackdragon (9:12:43 PM): I didn't read how old you are...how old is "young"? Mandie (9:12:51 PM): 20 in may Blackdragon CRAP. Blackdragon (9:12:59 (9:13:01 PM): PM): HOLY You're 19??? Mandie (9:13:08 PM): >.< Mandie (9:13:09 PM): gah Mandie (9:13:11 PM): only in age Blackdragon (9:13:13 PM): Wow. Mandie (9:13:16 PM): legal Mandie (9:13:17 PM): age Blackdragon (9:13:22 PM): You don't come off like that young at all. Mandie (9:13:23 PM): not mental age Blackdragon (9:13:24 PM): I'm shocked. Blackdragon (9:13:32 PM): Holy crapola. Blackdragon (9:13:33 PM): Hm. Mandie (9:13:35 PM): i hate it Mandie (9:13:38 PM): i hate being 19 Mandie (9:13:45 PM): it's such a road block Blackdragon (9:14:06 PM): I understand... Blackdragon (9:14:13 PM): You're aware of how old I am, right? Mandie (9:14:19 PM): 35 yes? (9:14:23 PM): I36, but yeah. Blackdragon (9:14:37 mention that because lots of women can't handle an older guy. Mandie (9:14:45 PM): older guys have no drama Mandie (9:14:51 PM): and aren't in just for sex Blackdragon (9:14:56 PM): Correct on both counts. Mandie (9:14:56 PM): well Mandie (9:15:00 PM): some might be Mandie (9:15:04 PM): but most aren't Blackdragon (9:15:27 PM): I don't do drama, EVER. If a woman wants to do drama, I just tell her "There's the door". Blackdragon (9:15:28 PM): :) Mandie (9:15:37 PM): yes

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Mandie (9:15:45 PM): leave the baggage at the airport Blackdragon (9:15:48 PM): Haha Mandie (9:17:11 PM): all those damn air heads ruin it for the rest of us Blackdragon (9:17:16 PM): Haha. Blackdragon (9:17:24 PM): That's why I have my Big Four. Blackdragon (9:17:33 PM): The four things I look for in a woman. Mandie (9:17:34 PM): big four? Mandie (9:17:38 PM): please explain Blackdragon (9:17:45 PM): In no particular order.... Blackdragon (9:18:07 PM): 1) Smart. She's got to be smart or I can't relate to her. Probably the most important.... Blackdragon (9:18:15 PM): 2) Hot. (I'm still a guy after all) Blackdragon (9:18:23 PM): 3) Likes frequent sex Blackdragon (9:18:28 PM): 4) Not a bitch...I don't do drama. Mandie (9:18:37 PM): those a four legit things Blackdragon (9:18:39 PM): That covers ALL the bases.. Mandie (9:18:48 PM): it does Blackdragon (9:18:59 PM): Many women have two or three of those things, but very few have all four. Mandie (9:19:13 PM): ok Mandie (9:19:15 PM): so hot Mandie (9:19:16 PM): like (9:19:21 PM): hot bod face... Mandie (9:19:23 Mandie (9:19:26 PM): totaly package? Mandie (9:19:33 PM): total* Blackdragon (9:19:36 PM): Both are ideal.... Blackdragon (9:19:44 PM): But if she has a really hot bod, for example... Blackdragon (9:19:50 PM): And her face is so-so, it's OK... Blackdragon (9:19:54 PM): and vice versa. Mandie (9:19:58 PM): i see Mandie (9:20:07 PM): there's hope for the rest of us then Mandie (9:20:09 PM): =]

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Blackdragon (9:20:25 PM): Your pics look OK...they're a little small. Do you consider yourself not hot? Mandie (9:20:38 PM): well Mandie (9:20:42 PM): i have a great face Mandie really great Mandie (9:20:47 (9:20:51 PM): PM): and not gonna lie boobs Mandie (9:21:06 PM): but the rest isn't jessica alba or antyhing you know Mandie (9:21:17 PM): you can facebook me if you want better pictures Blackdragon (9:21:38 PM): OK...what's your facebook (and myspace)...I'm on both. Mandie (9:22:05 PM): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blackdragon (9:22:31 PM): k...I'll send you a friend request...hang on. Mandie (9:22:43 PM): and for face book my email xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blackdragon (9:23:48 PM): Looks like you moved your friend request thingy. Send one to me. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blackdragon (9:24:40 PM): k just sent you one on facebook. Mandie (9:25:30 PM): fb has the better photos... Blackdragon (9:25:54 PM): I do have a pretty good face. Blackdragon (9:25:58 PM): YOU do I mean. Mandie (9:26:08 PM): ah, why thank you Blackdragon (9:26:19 Mandie (9:26:36 PM):PM): well Define "great boobs" Mandie (9:26:43 PM): there's plenty of them Blackdragon (9:26:54 PM): In your opinion I mean. Mandie (9:27:02 PM): and they don't come down to my waist or anything Blackdragon (9:27:03 PM): I know what MY opinon of "Great boobs" are :) Blackdragon (9:27:09 PM): They don't sag huh? Mandie (9:27:10 PM): i like them Blackdragon (9:27:11 PM): :) Mandie (9:27:15 PM): i think they look great

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Blackdragon (9:27:18 PM): C cup? Mandie (9:27:25 PM): honey Mandie (9:27:27 PM): no way Mandie (9:27:31 PM): DD Blackdragon Blackdragon (9:27:36 (9:27:39 PM): PM): WHAT??? And you're 19? Blackdragon (9:27:42 PM): Hm. Mandie (9:27:47 PM): runs in the family Blackdragon (9:28:04 PM): Interesting. Mandie (9:28:11 PM): i'm xxxxxxxx Mandie (9:28:13 PM): i guess Blackdragon (9:28:15 PM): Ah. Mandie (9:28:17 PM): so i've been told Mandie (9:28:24 PM): and that's to blame Mandie (9:28:28 PM): or not thank Mandie (9:28:33 PM): or thank* Blackdragon (9:28:56 PM): I think I just got you on Facebook. I'll look... Mandie (9:29:08 PM): yeah Blackdragon (9:29:16 PM): Tell me what you think the best pic of you is. Blackdragon (9:29:19 PM): On facebook. Mandie (9:29:19 PM): fb is the place to be Blackdragon (9:29:27 PM): ...and I'll look at it. Mandie (9:29:34 PM): under the album xxxxxxxxxxxxx (9:29:35 PM): kI see your albums now. Blackdragon (9:29:37 Mandie (9:29:39 PM): any of those is good Blackdragon (9:30:14 PM): No bad. Blackdragon (9:30:21 PM): It's so hard to tell from pics though. Blackdragon (9:30:24 PM): But they do give you an idea. Mandie (9:30:29 PM): mmhmm Blackdragon (9:30:35 PM): Not bad I mean. Damn typing. Blackdragon (9:31:36 PM): How tall are you? Mandie (9:31:44 PM): 5'7" Blackdragon (9:31:50 PM): Yeah, OK.

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Mandie (9:31:55 PM): you? Blackdragon (9:32:01 PM): 6'0" Mandie (9:32:19 PM): nice Mandie than me(9:32:33 seriouslyPM): i have trouble taking guys shorter Mandie (9:32:43 PM): i don't know why... Blackdragon (9:33:00 PM): No, I understand. That would be tough when you're a woman. Blackdragon (9:33:11 PM): I guess I'd feel weird if I was a woman with a guy shorter than me too. Mandie (9:33:13 PM): yeah Blackdragon (9:33:28 PM): My daughter's texting me... Blackdragon (9:33:33 PM): I'm multitasking... Blackdragon (9:33:34 PM): LOL Mandie (9:33:42 PM): aw, how old is she? Blackdragon (9:33:46 PM): She's 10 Mandie (9:33:49 PM): name? Blackdragon (9:33:51 PM): xxxxxxxxx Mandie (9:33:55 PM): =] Mandie (9:33:59 PM): pretty Blackdragon (9:34:13 PM): Yeah, I have 2 kids. That's the extent of my baggage. Blackdragon (9:34:14 PM): :) Mandie (9:34:25 PM): what about the other one? Blackdragon (9:34:42 PM): xxxxxxxxxx is my son. He's 17 but he's not biologically mine if the age throws you. I just consider him mine. Mandie (9:34:51 PM): ah Mandie (9:34:56 PM): i know the feeling Blackdragon (9:35:13 PM): So you're cool dating a 36 year old guy if we meet and we hit it off? Blackdragon (9:35:23 PM): That's IF we hit it off. Blackdragon (9:35:24 PM): :) Mandie (9:35:38 PM): it's the norm, but i don't see why the age should matter Mandie (9:35:40 PM): really Blackdragon (9:35:46 PM): It doesn't to me.

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Mandie (9:35:51 PM): me either Blackdragon (9:35:52 PM): As long as it doesn't to you. Blackdragon (9:35:53 PM): Good. Mandie (9:35:56 PM): nope Mandie (9:35:58 PM):PM): not atWhen all are your school hours Blackdragon (9:36:06 normally? Mandie (9:36:25 PM): mon/wed/fri 11:15 to 3 Mandie (9:36:43 PM): and tue/thur pretty much all day...but a few hours in between Blackdragon (9:36:58 PM): Let me check my schedule for this week then... Mandie (9:42:16 PM): i went to college in high school Blackdragon (9:42:20 PM): Ah. Mandie (9:42:22 PM): so i'm a junior Blackdragon (9:42:28 PM): WOW. And you're 19??? Blackdragon (9:42:30 PM): Damn. Mandie (9:42:34 PM): yep Blackdragon (9:42:40 PM): Smart. Good. Mandie (9:42:43 PM): i'm not fluffling arounf Mandie (9:42:46 PM): around* Mandie (9:42:52 PM): fluffing* Mandie (9:42:54 PM): PM): gosh Stop doing those drugs. Blackdragon (9:43:02 Mandie (9:43:02 PM): tonight is not a good typing night Blackdragon (9:43:28 PM): OK...hang on...I'm looking for a place to meet downtown.

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Blackdragon (9:43:40 PM): Can't do a bar since one of us is underage. Blackdragon (9:43:42 PM): :) Mandie (9:43:43 PM): drugs? Mandie Mandie (9:43:46 (9:43:51 PM): PM): how pfft did you know Blackdragon (9:43:57 PM): Weed? Cool. Mandie (9:44:11 PM): i'm lucky to ditch my middle school lunch break Mandie (9:44:38 PM): weed? Mandie (9:44:40 PM): really? Mandie (9:44:43 PM): you're good =] Blackdragon (9:44:50 PM): I was right aren't I? Blackdragon (9:44:52 PM): Haha. Mandie (9:44:58 PM): hit the nail on the head Mandie (9:45:02 PM): nah man Blackdragon (9:45:19 PM): Still looking for a spot. Hang on... Mandie (9:45:36 PM): hey man, i'm down for just a cup of joe Blackdragon (9:45:42 PM): Exactly. Mandie (9:45:48 PM): doesn't have to be fancy Mandie (9:45:56 PM): starbucks on xxxxxx and xxxxxxx Blackdragon (9:45:58 PM): Yeah, I'm looking at the Starbucks down there. Blackdragon (9:46:07 Mandie (9:46:10 PM): PM): kk Yeah, let's do that. Blackdragon (9:46:26 PM): Unless it's one of those that gets really super croweded because of the campus being so close. Blackdragon (9:46:37 PM): crowded Mandie (9:46:39 PM): nah Mandie (9:46:41 PM): not super Mandie (9:46:49 PM): it's usually pretty chill at that one Blackdragon (9:46:56 PM): OK. My cell is xxx.xxx.xxxx. Mandie (9:47:03 PM): do you text? Blackdragon (9:47:08 PM): Hell yeah. Any time. Blackdragon (9:47:29 PM): Do you go by xxxxx?

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Mandie (9:47:52 PM): it really doesn't matter Blackdragon (9:47:54 PM): You're eclectic. Mandie (9:47:57 PM): xxxxxxx was more high school Blackdragon (9:47:58 PM): As they say. Mandie Mandie (9:48:02 (9:48:06 PM): PM): =] xxxxxxx is fine Mandie (9:48:09 PM): it's easy Blackdragon (9:48:23 PM): OK...I need to go pick up my daughter it looks like.... Blackdragon (9:48:32 PM): So I'm going to log off here in a min... Mandie (9:48:37 PM): mmkay Blackdragon (9:48:38 PM): You've got my number.... Mandie (9:48:41 PM): yes Mandie (9:48:43 PM): oh Mandie (9:48:51 PM): mine is xxx xxx xxxx Blackdragon (9:48:54 PM): Cool. Mandie (9:48:59 PM): sorry Mandie (9:49:04 PM): i was thinking about that then forgot Blackdragon (9:49:08 PM): Starbucks on xxxx and xxxx at 2:30pm tomorrow, right? Mandie (9:49:12 PM): yep yep Mandie (9:49:25 PM): throw me text when you're there or almost there Blackdragon (9:49:32 PM): OK.... Blackdragon (9:49:48 Mandie (9:49:50 PM): PM): =] I shall. Mandie (9:49:58 PM): take care tonight, drive safe Blackdragon (9:50:03 PM): You to. Blackdragon (9:50:04 PM): Night. Mandie (9:50:08 PM): peace Our Starbucks date was less than one hour. Our second date was walking around the mall and then sex at my place, within about two hours. She was right, her boobs really were DD’s…

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Transcript Three: “Danni” This the same Danni I talk about inthis thebook Younger Woman Case is Studies book that accompanies package. She was a 22 year-old gal, dark hair, dark eyes, milky white skin with an amazing, damn near perfect body. As you’ve probably already read in the case studies book, we got sexual but once I started seeing her I screwed up badly in several areas. However her transcript is still instructional. It’s our first IM conversation after a brief email back-and-forth over Plenty of Fish right after a recent snowstorm. Danni (11:38:09 AM): not sure if its been 10 mins or not Blackdragon (11:38:30 AM): :) Blackdragon (11:38:36 AM): Give me like one minute here... Danni (11:38:46 AM): take your time im gunna brush my teeth then Danni (11:49:34 AM): sorry im in the middle of doing my hair Blackdragon (11:49:50 AM): Haha. Hey, hair's important. :) Danni (11:50:19 AM): yes it is haha. our house keeper is coming soon so I need to be out of the house soon or at least out of the bathroom Danni (11:50:20 AM): haha Blackdragon (11:50:44 AM): Well I'm done with my other stuff for the moment. Just let me know when you're done. Danni (11:52:36 AM): illl just be back and forth since my straightner sucks I need to let it reheat Danni (11:52:48 AM): I havent even figured out if I can make it out of my driveway yet haha Blackdragon (11:53:13 AM): Yep, I was out shoveling a few days ago. Looks like I'll have to do it again. Blackdragon (11:53:21 AM): What were you saying about that last guy you dated? Danni (11:53:31 AM): oh he disappointed me

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Blackdragon (11:53:38 AM): He cheated? Blackdragon (11:53:55 AM): (guys do that a lot) Danni (11:53:59 AM): well we werent very official Blackdragon (11:54:12 AM): Well, that's different then. Danni (11:54:14 then backed off aAM): bit but he pursued the shit out of me and Danni (11:54:26 AM): claims to still want me but whatever Blackdragon (11:54:30 AM): How did he dissapoint you then? Danni (11:54:38 AM): he posted a pic online of him making out with some chick Danni (11:54:46 AM): but they were "just taking funny pics" Danni (11:54:54 AM): whatever I really don't care not worth my time Blackdragon (11:55:01 AM): How old is this guy? Under 25? Danni (11:55:03 AM): I am not one to complain about the past Danni (11:55:07 AM): past is the past Danni (11:55:08 AM): yes Blackdragon (11:55:19 AM): I just realized you are 22. You know how old I am? Danni (11:55:46 AM): yes Danni (11:56:00 AM): I usually date older guys, my dad was 16 years older than my mom no biggie to me Blackdragon AM): Ah, OK. Some women can't handle other (11:56:15 guys. Danni (11:56:29 AM): you mean older? Blackdragon (11:56:37 AM): I'm a dork. Yeah. older. Danni (11:57:18 AM): gotcha so what are you looking for exactly? Danni (11:57:22 AM): sorry im kinda upfront and blunt Blackdragon (11:57:43 AM): Holy crap, why are you sorry about that? That's a good thing. Blackdragon (11:57:47 AM): What I want...

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Blackdragon (11:58:21 AM): I've been able to narrow it down to 4 big things. It's an over simplification, but this way I can screen potentials better. :) Blackdragon (11:58:53 AM): In no particular order (they're all equally important) Blackdragon (11:58:57 AM): 1. Smart. Blackdragon (11:59:00 AM): 2. Hot. Blackdragon (11:59:08 AM): 3. Sexually comfortable. Blackdragon (11:59:11 AM): 4. Not a bitch. Blackdragon (11:59:24 AM): Lots of women have 2 or 3 of the 4, but very few women have all 4. Danni (12:06:57 PM): well how do you think I fair so far? Danni (12:07:07 PM): to help you with one Danni (12:07:19 PM): I am going to school to get my doctorate in pharmacy Blackdragon (12:07:27 PM): Really. Danni (12:07:34 PM): so I like to think I have some sort of smarts Danni (12:07:49 PM): and I got a b in my macroeconomics class ( I think that was a miracle though) Danni (12:08:03 PM): and I probably could have gotten an a if I put a little more effort into studying haha Blackdragon (12:08:11 PM): Hm. Blackdragon (12:08:19 PM): What is it about pharmacy that attracts(12:09:28 you? Danni PM): well I was in xxxxxxxxxxx Danni (12:09:34 PM): as a xxxxxxxxx Danni (12:09:45 PM): and we did alot of the xxxxxxxx work on the weekends Danni (12:10:18 PM): and I love it, I love being one of the people who can provide relief to people who are ill/in pain ect Blackdragon (12:10:59 PM): How many more years before you get the PhD? Are you working too? Danni (12:11:51 PM): im at right now getting me pre reqs out of the way which another year and a half or so and then xxxxxxx university for pharmacy school is 3 years

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Danni (12:12:10 PM): and I am a xxxxx at xxxxxxxxxx but looking for a job as a pharmacy tech Blackdragon (12:12:57 PM): Hm. Smart is good. I HATE dumb dated enough those. nuts. Danni bimbos. (12:13:28I've PM): haha well ifof you makeDrive goodme money like you say you do I can imagine you would attract a few of those Blackdragon (12:13:40 PM): All the more reaons I have to screen women carefully. :) Blackdragon (12:13:54 PM): Plus intelligence is attractive. Danni (12:13:55 PM): yea I can understand that Danni (12:14:07 PM): yes it is, that goes both ways Danni (12:14:16 PM): oh and I have a really hard time being a bitch Danni (12:14:25 PM): it can be a curse and a blessing at the same time Blackdragon (12:14:58 PM): Haha. I don't know about that...not being a bitch is hard for a lot of women. Bitchy moments are OK. Everyone has those. It's the bitchy overall attitude that I don't like. Danni (12:18:37 PM): haha no I am not like that Danni (12:18:47 PM): I am sure people say that all the time but im really not Blackdragon (12:19:40 PM): OK. I'm officially curious. Are you(12:20:24 out of town week? Danni PM):next no but I have a friend coming in to town Danni (12:20:59 PM): hey not sure if you are ok with this but my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx if you want to text me you can if not then I will talk to you on here later tonight Danni (12:21:06 PM): cause I gotta head out the door Blackdragon (12:21:25 PM): I'll text or call you later then. Drive safe. Danni (12:21:34 PM): thanks ill try, ciao Blackdragon (12:21:35 PM): Wait! What's your name? Danni (12:21:38 PM): Danni Blackdragon (12:21:45 PM): k. TTYL

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Transcript Four: “Britney” Britney is hands-down one of the best looking women I’ve ever had sex with in my life, and that’s saying something. At the time of this transcript she was 19 years old. Picture Britney Spears at age 19 except with brown hair instead of blonde, that was “Britney.” She was a huge victory for me at the time, especially considering she was quite nervous to meet up with me in the beginning (as many VYW are) and was somewhat concerned about the age difference. Britney was one of my first VWY, and I was still getting the hang of things in terms of attracting VWY. Reading over this conversation now, years later, it’s clear I was way too verbose in this conversation. I can tell I was trying a little too hard (at least for me). I actually cringe a little as I read it. Regardless, this conversation did “work” so I still wanted to show it to you. Just realize I would have done things differently today, namely I would have talked less, had her talk more, and would have ended the conversation much more quickly. This was our first IM conversation after a few on Yahoo Personals (I think. It may have been fPlenty of Fish instead…not sure on this one, but my memory of her was Yahoo.) The conversation was so long I have removed a few chunks that I deemed irrelevant (and that were probably not good examples of what to do anyway). Blackdragon: Hiya Britney: Hey there Britney: How's it going? Blackdragon: Busy!!! I'm headed down to the xxxx in a bit. Some friends want to party on a Sunday night!!!! Too bad I have a life or I could stay out late.

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Britney: Well hopefully you have a good time : ) Have work in the AM? Blackdragon: Somewhat. I set my own schedule. So I have to do, but I could sleep in a little. work :) Britney: Well that is nice for you Britney: wish I could say the same! Blackdragon: Yes, it is. :) Blackdragon: Do you work or are you in school? Britney: I work, I am a xxxxxxx. Blackdragon: You must love kids then. Britney: I do love kids : ) very much so Blackdragon: Have you been dating a lot or a little or not at all, lately? Britney: Just a little bit lately, had some first dates and not really hit it off well enough to go for another Britney: how about yourself? Blackdragon: I date. Havn't found that one person yet though. I'm picky though, so most of that is my fault. Britney: I am picky as well, it is the way to be Blackdragon: It is. I won't settle in my next big relationship. she hate comes, I don't mind dating. But Mostuntil people it (and I guess I understand). Britney: Yeah, dating can be draining Blackdragon: Hell yes!!! Blackdragon: It's a nessessary evil though. The higher standards you have for that one person, the more numbers you have to put into the big 'ol dating funnel. And my standards are high so I just accept that I'll be on a lot of first (and maybe second) dates for a while.

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Britney: Do many ladies make it to date 2? : ) Blackdragon: Oh, about 40 out of the last 150 or so. Blackdragon: :) Blackdragon: jk Britney: haha, that is a lot of first dates! Britney: Are you sure you are joking? Britney: : ) Blackdragon: Ok, maybe about the last 120 or so. Blackdragon: :) Britney: Very nice Blackdragon: Hey, a guy's gotta date, ya know? Blackdragon: :) Blackdragon: Yes, I'm a smartass. Britney: I do know, smartass is ok with me :) Blackdragon: Speaking of smartass.. Blackdragon: How smart would you say you are on a scale from 1 to 10? And BE HONEST. Britney: 9. Blackdragon: Are you being on honest? Or just not humble? Blackdragon: :) Britney: I am being honest. I think I am a very smart girl. Andshould why would saythat? that? Blackdragon: Or I say, you TYPE Britney: Because I am confident that I am a smart young lady : ) How else am I supposed to answer that? Blackdragon: Heh Blackdragon: You're supposed to answer that in a smart way. Blackdragon: Haha Blackdragon: I can tell that you're confident though. Blackdragon: How old are you?

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Blackdragon: Please don't tell me you're like 15 or something. Blackdragon: Blackdragon: :) ....or 57 or something. Britney: 19 Blackdragon: OMG, 19???? Blackdragon: Wow. Blackdragon: You're a baby. Blackdragon: Do you know how old I am? Britney: 30's Britney: I am young, I typically date older men though Blackdragon: I'm 36. Can you handle an older guy? Lots of women can't. Britney: I can handle just about anyone : ) Blackdragon: Heh. Blackdragon: Historically, I've dated all ages, including pretty young. There are pro's and cons to every age group. Britney: I agree. Blackdragon: I try not to judge people based on age, since I know there are women you're age who are Ireally sharp and mature. Britney: would say that I fall into that group. I have been told quite often that I am very mature for my age, if I didn't have such a baby face I would certainly be mistaken for older Blackdragon: Your pics didn't scream "19", so you probably do carry yourself a little older. That's good. I sometimes and leery about dating much younger women but I have done it in the past (once or twice).

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Britney: It makes sense. Most of the older guys I have have younger, been a bitbut skeptical about datingdated someone I cant say I have ever had someone lose interest due to my age. Blackdragon: Naw, it wasn't because of your age. It was because you probably smell. Blackdragon: jk :) Britney: haha, If you want the truth, I have never been "dumped" Britney: Not even for smelling :) Blackdragon: Well, hell, how many relationships have you actually had? Blackdragon: I don't mean dating now, I mean relationships. Britney: Relationships? I would say only 4. But I have had my share of month or so long "flings" Britney: I typically lose interest FYI Note – Britney is a hardcore serial monogamist. She’s has about 10 “serious” monogamous boyfriends in the last few years. I’m serious. Yes, women boredthey veryget easily. Blackdragon: Men take off get because horny. Women take off because they get bored. It's kinda sad. Britney: It is sad, but I think when you find the right one the need for more entertainment or sex with someone else wont arrise Blackdragon: Exactly. Blackdragon: So few people understand that. Blackdragon: Men and women both. Blackdragon: You do seem smart. Blackdragon: At least a little. Blackdragon: It's one of the big four.

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Britney: And you are a smartass Britney: More then a little ;) Britney: And the other 3? Blackdragon: In no particular order: Blackdragon: Blackdragon: 1. 2. Smart Hot Blackdragon: 3. Likes and is comfortable with frequent sex. Blackdragon: 4. Not a bitch. Blackdragon: MANY women have 3 of the 4 Blackdragon: But few have all four. Britney: I do. Blackdragon: Haha. That's what they all say. :) Britney: I'm sure. Britney: Just being honest : ) Blackdragon: Well, that would be nice. Having all four is very rare. I guess we'll see. Britney: Perhaps Blackdragon: I just know that LOTS of women say, "Oh yeah! I'm smart" or "Oh yeah, I LOVE sex" or "Oh yeah, I don't get bitchy!" Blackdragon: Heh. Britney: I am smart. Not the best at math, but I can hold an intelligent conversation and have opinions and thoughts on many subjects. I am not a bitch, but haveAnd my bitchy moments, who doesn't? as far as sex goes, of course I love sex. But I love good sex, and many men are not capable. Blackdragon: Smart is good. I hate dumb bimbos. Ugh. And yes, bitch MOMENTS are ok. It's just the "drama all the time" crap that I don't put up with. And yes, most men are not sexually skilled or make a study out of what pleases a women. So I get you there.

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FYI Note – Not sure if you can tell, but in the last few exchanges I was trying way oo hard. I would never be as flattering today. Britney: Who 90% does of likewomen drama?and about 40% of men Blackdragon: need regular drama. Blackdragon: I don't. Britney: Some seem to thrive on it, I wouldn't put myself in that category Britney: 90% of women? I dont think so. Blackdragon: Within that 90%, there are some women who need it all the time and others who need it once and a while. A woman who never, ever does drama (outside of rare bitchy moments) is very rare. I have meet a few, so I know they're out there. They're just rare. Britney: I see. Blackdragon: Men are dumb, women are insane. It's just the way it is. :) Britney: Amen. Blackdragon: I accept that as a man, I'm an idiot. Even if I'm smarter than most, I'm still a dumb guy. Blackdragon: And Ifight accept accept it and don't it. :)that women are crazy. I Britney: That is the way to go Blackdragon: I'm texting my friends downtown. They're telling me to leave. I just told them I'm talking to one of my CEO's. :) Britney: haha, well if you must get going that is quite alright Blackdragon: Yeah, I do need to leave in a few minutes. Blackdragon: Let's schedule a time to meet.

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Britney: Though I will say that your smartass comments and wit make you quite amusing Blackdragon: bill for $750. I'm here to please. You'll be getting my Blackdragon: I don't give this quality shit out for free. Britney: You won't be getting my check, but if you are lucky you might get some of my time. Blackdragon: Ooooooo. SPANK! Britney: :) Blackdragon: Before I go... Blackdragon: I'm checking my sched... Blackdragon: Hang on a sec... Britney: Alright Blackdragon: Are days or eves better for you? Britney: Evenings for sure Britney: Sounds good. Where would you like to meet? Blackdragon: Do you know the xxxxxxx well? Or somewhat? Britney: Actually I don't, but I have become quite familiar with mapquest :) Blackdragon: Good answer! Blackdragon: Ok.. On xxxxx and xxxxxx there is a place called "xxxxxx" Blackdragon: I don't actually know the address for Mapquest, but I know it's on xxxxx and xxxxxx downtown... Britney: I'm sure I can figure it out Blackdragon: You can. Blackdragon: I know the owner so I can get you in even though you're under 21. You'll have to dress like an over-21-year-old though. :)

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Britney: Can do. Suggestions? Blackdragon: Suggestions? For what? Britney: Dress Blackdragon: Just don't wear anything that screams "teenager". Look hot. Blackdragon: I personally don't care, but the place is a lounge. Britney: haha, that shouldnt be an issue Blackdragon: I didn't think so. Blackdragon: :) Blackdragon: OK.... Blackdragon: I've gotta leave. I have you down for 7pm at xxxxx on Thursday night. My cell is xxx.xxx.xxxx. Keep that. Blackdragon: We can text that way. Britney: xxx xxx xxxx Blackdragon: Got it. Gonna take off now. It was...interesting meeting you. Gnite. :) Britney: You too. Have fun : ) Technically it worked, but I was verbalizing way too much and a too wordy. It just goes to show that if your frame is strong, you’re confident and outcome independent, you can screw up a little and it still works.

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