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Dear Mr. david. 1. a)you can start reading all the material available on the net. about time and price relation. b) you have to study the cylces in nature c)understand that cycles and philosophy are esoteric. d)but once understood they can be worked with mathematical precision. e)you have to read about ancient geomety. f)physics you have to read especially related to atomic functions g) and so many other subjects 2) gann studies can be applied to any freely traded markets

any how all the clues are given in the gann material itself available on the net it is obvious that he has used sayan sasthra i mean method of setting direction. which can be verified by seeing teh sarvatho badra chakra which is depicted by directions and symbols just like ganns square of nine. with spiralling of numbers. clue is time and price are calculated in the same way work hard be holy and pure the fire will come. but one thing is sure he has given all the clues in his writing itself important things are range of prices time rate of vibration and angles provided you know how to deal with y a!is. which can be done if you work on it. wish you the success in your trading

truth of gann"1  krishnapvm #un $% 2%%& i agree with you on some points and i disagree with you on some   points.

   

 

 

i agree that you have understood the principles of gann to a great e!tgent. i faced the same situation when i try to reveal what gann is not or atleast what is understood by general gann enthusiast. when i told that the real secret is he has used sarvatho badra chakra from india which is directly refelct square of nine with symbols and spiralling of numbers and angles which came from sayan sasthra 'mehtod of lying direction) sayana means lying in a direction. i was told that i came from mysitc religion of iskcon'as my name is krishna). at this juncture i would like to clarify that vedic sastras are not religion which is presenlty recognised as hindu. any how hindu is a misnomer. iskcon only promotes only devotional aspects of vedic religion. but i believe that there are other ways to reach the relative e!istence. any how bigots are like retina the more you throw light the more they will contract. they are like frogs in a well thinking that it is the biggest. vedic religion is based on free will not deterministic

 

thinking. as god sits somewhere and decides our fate enjoy what we are doing. why the seers who knows the secrets dont reveal is that all people are not matured enough to understand. even if they are told they try to misinterpret and spoil the whole spirit of the subject and another thing if they understand it they utilise for manupulate it to their advantage. when when they are matured seers mouth opens at the same time students ears will open. as you said it is better to concentrate on our trading than try to teach those people who are not yet ready. sages only tell not directly in a coded manner it has to be understood after long understanding of nature and cycles and spirituality.

 

   

 

any how for those who would like to understand gann earnestly and who are ready to receive the nature secrets i am giving the follwing clues. 1. all the techniques he has mentioned seperately like swing points division of range and the point that time and price are calculated in the same way and the point that the clues are given from the prices itself 'this statement negates the understanding that gann used mainly astrology) and his statment that each stock is like atom and vibration is fundamental. all these has to be combined as one single indicator. this is possible. can any body tell me the dictionery defition of vibration instantly. but still we would like to know the secrets without work. 2. he said the all swing are cyclical.' any body try understand what is a swing). anybody try to understand what is an atom and how it works. take the clue from the half life in physics. $. he talked about volume also. (*+,- /*M 00,343D3 work hard be holy and pure and the fire will come. ariese awake and stop not till your goal is reached. /,53/D- 34D 63778 +/3D45

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krishnapvm #un $% 2%%& first of all we shall discuss about what gann did

gann did the following.

 

 

1.he used to project the price along with the precise date by which a particular share reaches the target irrespective of whatever the price in between 2. he used to give projected curve for one year in advance $. he used to tell what price it will not touch which is very nearer to the prevailing rate. for e!ample if preavaling rate is 9$.& he will say it will not touch 9$.:& let us go to the other clues provide by gann

   

 

1.all swings are cyclical.'this statement is very important for projected curve) 2. volume trend or pitch time and price and vibration are used in his calculation. he said vibration is fundamental 'this reference of vibration has not come after his article in ticker and ivestment digest) $. he has used the angles from 1;< to <;< to dermine the trend =. referred about equino!es and solistics and told that small difference in time will e!ist in dates &. he has told that the secret is in the tunnel thru air'indeed it is there """ . 'but i dint find the reason why the robert gordon was so obsessed with one god rather than cardinal rule of doing good to others as we are done by)

if there are any mistake please correct me and suggest me. but one thing is quite evident even to a child that sarvatho badra chakra is the main caluculation he has used. that mystic chakra from india which is used for prediction even today by astrologer in india. india is a land of mysticism more than money earning knowledge is given importance and used for society at large. the secrets are known to few individuals. but he has not given much credit where it is due. in the same way the people talk about fibonicci named after fibonicci who is just &%% years old which are used and always remembered in homes of many in india from ancient times which are called shree durga numbers'the numbers of mother goddes energy) shree durga number not only contains so called fibonicci number and also other numer if you care to know. all temples in india are constructed based on these calculations giving harmony to who ever goes there. we are forgetting roots of these knowledge and lost we are going to for begging when very great meal is served before us.

how did gann predict the price before a specific date

 

 

krishnapvm -ep 1 2%%: how did gann predict the price before a specific date. any one hearing. what goes into his methodoly. the important point that has gone into his mehtodoloy are the following> the angular pitch? the startint point of second bottom or third bottom the volume support at a particular place? the longer wave in time and price when compared to other waves? balancing of time and price? projecting the price by simple multiplcation'guess what is the factor) do todo calculations or use of musical octave principles? to round up the story he has used the principles of atomic working? especially in this methodology he has used the half life principle. he has used basically the indian system of sayanmika sastra for other things ne!t thing i will give clue of how the bottom and tops occur in future from a particular gravitation centre.

thank you all for giving an opportunity of sharing my views on gann. which i believe it to be true. this i found after a lot of study and strugles for years and years.

@work hard be holy and pure and the fire will come@ vivekananda

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 19 2%%: as promised in my earlier post on how gann did prject specific minimum price before a specific date in future. i am now giving clues on how did price takes support from a particular gravitation centre. creation occurs at nabhistan or naval point. this is best demonstrated in the form of lord vishnu one of the trinity of hindus. lord vishnu lying in divine sleep'yoga nidra) and from his novel sprouts a flower in the another lord brahma sits on the flowers. navel or belly button is at a particular ratio to the whole body. different combination of electrons decides the matter. brahma the lord of creation is electron lord vishnu the proton. electron is linked to proton and number of electrons are in relationn to proton. brahma is the lord of creation. comming back to the point how to identiy a support point we need to take a pivot point based on some rules and connect with highest high. from there its all time and price at play. remember gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent. work with strictly calender days as atom dont stop working because of holidays.there is a rythem and

dance of the time and price. in hindu philosophy there are many base elements apart from elements on earth. time is simply an element. and so it follows certain rules. lord shiva is the neutron the destructor. around lord shiva or neutron the energy moves. this energy is the consort of lord shiva who dance around shiva. she does three things while dancing she moves around herself and moves around lord shiva and taps her foot. from here the whole e!pansion and contration occurs ne!t time i will give a clue as to how to identify time values means time is associated with price. from there it is all even and odd squares at play.

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 1: 2%%: @+his power is known and understood by the adepts of ndia.@ this quote is from tunnel thru air of wd gann on page 29=. gann reference are hidden to be unearthed. gann theories all mathematical. who is the greatest mathematician other than the indian mathematician dr. ramanujan the world knows at that time. gann might have learnt from this greatest mathematician on how universe moves with particular number or ratio sequence and how it double and trible. D/. ramanujan says universeve moves by 1%;< can we call it further &;=. now call call it 1.2& ok now go to page number 12& robert was in the union station time at one o clock. robert was searching for marie. but no marie was found. there is a gramatical mistake here. is he searching for all the maries in the world. any how marie is a five letter world. is he searching for five. go to page number 2& there is world called harmony. now go to page number =%% there is a word called circled four in gann studies taken as four square is circled whne you circle the square can you fine the &;= or 1%;< . +o round up the story dr. ramanujan was a indian clerk from tamilnadu a brahmin boy who written some thoeries on prime numbers and shot to famous asked work with other scientists in the west. when asked how is getting this maths he answered he is getting from goddess. he has given many astounding theories in mathematics. his contributions is tremoundous. now a novel is in the market called the indian clerk about the this greatest mathematician dr. ramanujan

searching for a vanishing point in the deserts of egypt"ready with a shovel and towel murali krishna venkata puppala

-ep 1< 2%%: are you ready with a shovel and towel. let us stright go into deserts of egypt. are we seeing three pyramids. why cannot we draw a circling touching all three pyramids from a corner. the circle will run into cairo. ok now draw cirlce havign the touch point from the other corners of the pyramid. the two circle some where meet right. where they meet i suppose they meet at the wall of the last pyramid. that wall some how different with a different angle. and the place where the two cirlce meets is at the wall. just at that place there is an e!tra lump of sand. i think when egypt wants to hide something they bury below the wall. where the circle meets let us call it as vanishing point. there must be something below the wall. as the boat was found at the first pyramid vanishing point. i suppose there must be bigger priAe waiting for right below the wall where two circle meets that is vanishing point. are we readey with a shovel and towel to dig for a pot of gold. ok let us start digging for a secret right in the middle of markets for gold at an eclipse or a vanishing point. shall we go ahead. and are you ready.

 searching for a vanishing point in the deserts of egypt"ready with a shovel and towel murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 1< 2%%: dear jmh1% have you tried to take a pen and paper draw three pyramids and connect the three sides as i told to know the properties of the diagram. take pains to do that. certain things dont change with age. as we all dont change with certain things. gann belongs to this age and time. he dont belongs to ancient time. i think you got the meaning.

bingo there is a hingein gann clock only one hand moves

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 2% 2%%: every body talks of e!tremes market moves in e!tremes dog and leash and and other platitudes. but no body defines what is an e!treme. even gann is

 

at it. if we have to define an e!treme there must be reference by which we can measure an e!treme. yes true market moves in e!tremes. provided we know the starting point. what is this starting of gann eludding us. the startng point is the difference between two events in time. that is a stopped hand in the gann clock. i am sure goerge bayer and gann both are at it. what about moving hand. go to page no 1$1 there is reference of time at 1.$%. and gann said the more the fall the more the reaction. i am inveigled by this kind of statements from the master. and the answered unfolded once the hinge is known. yes rest assured there is a hinge to start with.

as regards joes worry about money management. it is common thing to worry about money management. it is seperate science. and as far as money management with gann techniques is concerned it is entirely different. as gann is weird and so his methods of prediction and so his money management. his allocation to portfolio is as peculiar as his methods.

how does the time meets price to get a resistance murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 21 2%%: the gann famous quote of when time meets price reversal is imminent. how a does two different things meets unless both are related and speak the same language. in this case let us convert price into indian currency. see in the attached file you will see a chart called gujarat industrial power. this is the clear demonstration how time meets price at e!actly &< days rs. 1< giving us a rythem. every time &< days meet rs. 1< move up it is resisting. i think this will do how stocks moves into rythem.

and now about wavelength"stocks and atoms

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 2= 2%%: gann said he can know the wavelenght of each stock. what wavel lenght he is talking of. ok get let us get back to hard core business from just a visceral to simple maths. each stock is like an atom he said. and so what is the implication for the price of a stock. each electron can have their intelligence ofcourse with their wave lenght limits. when it was e!perimented in labs with two holes in such a way electrons are to be shooted into a hole. they were just going like a school children in a disciplined way

into one hole called 3. when 3 hole was closed. electrons that are directed at 3 hole changed their directin gone into B hole. how come the electons that are supposed go into 3 hole came to know that 3 hole is closed. and gone to B hole. why they should they choose B hole atall. they can go anywhere if they choose to go. i read the arguments on this. all elctrons are intelligence and have free will. and they aare in you and me and in stones and every where. and we have our own free will and intelligence apart form electrons that are in us. we can also say they are higher intelligence having its own free will. which is called mahath in sanskrit. vedas are not for personal god i belive. they are about principles presently i dont believe in any personal god though. getting back to the story. each stock has got wavelenth and gann can calculate it. wavelenth is how long a stock can go without any major reaction. this major reaction has to understood in relative way which can be calcualted with time in mind. mind it price is dity.

 

at a particular stage gann said price generated themselves can give a clue. by the time he gave this statement he evolved from comple! model to simple model which works in the same way. this is my understanding. going directly to american stock 3,7 meddle with this number 1%9  1%9 days meddle with it. from top to bottom. it has not passed through 1%9 days without major correction in time atleast. this 1%9 can be used in many ways though. meddle with it and play with it. try to understand. i told correction in time also. that is why gann used to quantify all corrections in terms of time. to see the ma!imum wave length that a stock can go.

now about cause and effect

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 29 2%%: as we already know there must be a cause to have an effect. what is this cause. cause is particular condition between two e!tremes of price and time. the condition is how price behaves in relation to time. the cause gives the last precise date and min price it touches before that date.

 

some time we need to go far away to see the cause. once cause is known we can see the effect before a date. science says cause may give rise to effect. this may word is something they used and it seems they

stopped there. as they have not taken the e!treme point rules in to account. once the e!treme point is known any cause between two e!treme will have an effect in future.

going back from 1C=% and gann trend lline murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1 2%%: this is the double title of the book tunnel thru air by w.d. gann. gann is referring to future date. can you see gann drawing line fuure point to the back. this is what it is back from 1C=%. the sun is depicted in the hindu mythology as drawing a chariot with horses controled by leashes in the form of snakes. these are rays 56+ rays in the form of snakes. snakes are not stright. right.

 

gann target are always with a price before a specific date. it is like the swimmer diving into the pool and appearing at the the oher end of the pool. he can appear before or dont appear until other end of the pool. gann price targets are like that. they can reach the target before a specific date into the future. this is the peculiar future of the time and price study drawing trend line from future once the cause is shown.

 

gann subject is weird. it has to be understood from worldless state of mind. this is what i believe and understood. i will try to cover as many aspect of gann studies as possible for me.

markets and godess aged 19 very playfull and dear murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 9 2%%: in hindu and budhist tantrik traditions and vedic traditins of india triangles are used in all their ritulals. vedic traditions of hindus support inward meditation. the person who are outcast from vedic traditions are allowed to do tantric traditions. again there are different sects within vamachara 'left hand path) sects. some sects of vamachara do the pratyaksha puja 'outward worship) of energy points in women. gann said there is triangle square and circle. there is an inner circle and outer circle and inner square and outer square. triangle is the base point on which squares and circle depends. this where the vibration occurs. in soundarya lahari'soundarya means beautyscinetists wondered with inner working of atom called it as beauty)wrtten by sankaracharya this point

is the centre 'bindu) in the form of three dots connected we will get a triangle. this is the inner most point in the shree yantra a diagram the most complicated yantra on earth to draw. it is e!perimeneted that if ohm is pronounced before a macnine that draws for each sound it has drawn the most complicated yantra shree yantra. the centre point or the cot on which goddess the parvathi and the god of trinity of hindu the lord shiva enjoys the se!ual union. from this union of lord shiva and shathi'shakthi means energy and also name of the goddess) e!pansion and contraction occurs.

 

 

without understanding the triangle where we have to draw we cannot know how to draw squares and circleinner and outer. the triangle is the point from where the vibratoin dance mathematically to double and trible. it seems that for scientists this is eluding from where to draw a triangle what are the three point that has to be connected. in gann circle it is common to listen about square and ellipses. i believe and see the evidence that square and circles cannot be defined without defining what is a triangle. all are dependent on triangle. every thing markets moves with numbers. they have to adere to the numbers and geometry. there are graviational cenres constantly moving creates e!rtreme points. and it is to be noted that price time meet and moves from each other.price and time got their own cycles. and they are related to each other in perfect mathematical way. they dance to the tunes of numbers.

robert secret of seven in the novel and my journy to the seven hills murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1= 2%%: -itting before the computer screen inundated with plethora of charts on the screen searching for gann seven multiplied seven years and waiting for action for the action followed by another seven years of jubilee period  was informed one of the company team where  invested as a venture capitalist is going to seven hills'tirupati) for a business the most pious place for hindus.  asked them to book for me too. Many times  went there on the bear foot all the way touching all seven hills to the top of the seventh where the god of hindus 'the reincarnatin of 0ishnu or narayana one of the trinity of hindu god resides. ,njoying the serene beauty surrounded by the hills  was watching the froAen geometry into these ancient sculptures of the temples. 3maAed by innumerable number of devotess wating to worship througout ages it occurred to me it is not froAen geometry. t was morning 2 o clock in the chilling cold all seven doors opened for us to have the opportunity of seeing the god. Elosed my eyes to have the imprint of god along with principles he taught. Fhen  turned the opposite  saw a mirror.  have seen the god in the mirror.  have seen my self too. 5od and mirror another froAen geometry

gann saying of angular pitch. -eeing and moving where is the third of the triangle other than god and mirror.  was moving the distance between me the god and mirror changing. +ime froAen for me at that time from seven years of gann to just events. +here was water flowing beneath my feet. t is said where ever the god narayana or 0ishnu resides water should be there. t is customary t in the pictures to show god narayana in the water with yogic sleep on the serpent curled three and half times'half of seven). 3fterward  remember the /obert hero was trying make his bicycle to float on water. +his is another way of telling he is trying two different cycles to work together.

my conversation with ganndude on squares

murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1C 2%%: ganndude2%%= '1%;1C;2%%: 11>&<>%: 7M)> hi Murali ganndude2%%= '1%;1C;2%%: 11>&<>21 7M)> sorry  missed you....ended up falling asleep last night ganndude2%%= '1%;1C;2%%: 11>&<>$9 7M)> hope your trading day went well... have to imagine it did

 

 

 

 

 

krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%=>19 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%=>2& 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%=>&< 3M)> how is the market there ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%9>$$ 3M)> hey krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%9>$< 3M)> hi krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%9>=2 3M)> how is the market there ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%9>=C 3M)> markets are dropping at a good rate krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%9>&$ 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%:>%9 3M)> have you come out of long positions ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%:>19 3M)> 1$9$C.9& "2=C.$1 '"1.<%G) http>;;finance.google.com;financeHcidI1$:&9C$= 2:&1.C& "=:.$9 '"1.9CG) http>;;finance.google.com;financeHcidI929$%: 1&1$.99 "29.=2 '"1.:2G) ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%:>2C 3M)> ive been out and only in bonds since the day of the rate cut krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%:>== 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%:>=< 3M)> it will be at least 1 yr before this mess is over ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>%% 3M)> probably closer to $ krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>1C 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>2: 3M)> can you trade your stocks shortH krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>$2 3M)> today how much fall krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>$= 3M)> in down ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>$< 3M)> 1$9$C.9& "2=C.$1 '"1.<%G) http>;;finance.google.com;financeHcidI1$:&9C$= 2:&1.C& "=:.$9 '"1.9CG)

 

 

 

 

http>;;finance.google.com;financeHcidI929$%: 1&1$.99 "29.=2 '"1.:2G) ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>=9 3M)> 1.< today so far krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>=< 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%<>&2 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>%C>12 3M)> our 1: th 1?%C>$= 3M)> good point ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1%>2% 3M)> interesting that this is the 2%th anniversary for our biggest day crash....and then 2% yrs later  its yours krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1%>$1 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1%>=% 3M)> sorry what  said wasnKt quite true ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1%>&2 3M)> 2%th anniversary for our biggest one day fall krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1%>&< 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>11>%& 3M)> gann aniversal dates krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>11>1% 3M)> anniversary krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>11>12 3M)> dates krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>12 3M)> square is a real geometridal square iuse krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>2= 3M)> gann used simple ruler to measure krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>$& 3M)> point in between ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>&2 3M)> you use a carpenter square ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>&9 3M)> that is great krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>12>&9 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1$>== 3M)> have you read my article krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1$>&: 3M)> on my journey to seven hills krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1=>2$ 3M)> there i gave my all points allmost all krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1=>=< 3M)> teaching is a very difficult even to gann krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>%% 3M)> this i understood from his statement ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>11 3M)>  read it and  mostly remember your statement about you 5od and the mirror krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>1& 3M)> start from second or third bottm krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>2< 3M)> your point is correct ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>2C 3M)> *k.....go on krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>$2 3M)> that is a triangell krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>== 3M)> actually it is rotational goemetry ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>=& 3M)> ahJ krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1&>&< 3M)> second or third bottom gann said krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>19>1$ 3M)> he might have frustrated and gave that statennt

 

 

 

 

ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>19>19 3M)> how do you know whichH ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>19>21 3M)>  see krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>19>== 3M)> becase of pestering of students krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>19>&% 3M)> to know the whole logic krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1:>%& 3M)> he tried may be but student should be receptive krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1:>12 3M)> this is what my opinion is krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1:>$9 3M)> in rotational geometry many variations e!ist krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1:>$C 3M)> he cannot teach all ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1:>=2 3M)>  would have to agree " especially seeing the recent events in our little group ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>%& 3M)> frustration levels are high.....and causes people to shut out krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>%9 3M)> student has to come with underlying philosophy ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>1C 3M)> yes..... agree krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>2& 3M)> student need to understand basic krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>$< 3M)> he was selective no doubt ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>=9 3M)> in fact its when  run out of ideas with the numbers that  go back to these philosophies and his statements ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>&& 3M)> it opens ideas again krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1<>&: 3M)> taht is good ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>1C>22 3M)>  have a long way ahead of me yet...but its good that  can share these e!periences with you krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2%>11 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2%>=& 3M)> right now  am watching the ,/* "  believe it will top for today at 1.=$1& krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2%>&C 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>21>2: 3M)> the thing is basic philosopy krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>21>$& 3M)> first understand that we are all one krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>21>=1 3M)> every thing is one krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>21>=& 3M)> no personal god ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>21>&9 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>%& 3M)> this is the basic philosophy of gann as i understand ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>%: 3M)>  picture a circle for this krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>%C 3M)> we are one and nature is one krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>11 3M)> samethng ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>2$ 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>29 3M)> from there vibrations you receive

     

 

krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>=< 3M)> but we are indoctrinated from child hood fear of one god krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>22>&2 3M)> we aer with god krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2$>1% 3M)> even jesus said you and me and father are one krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2$>1C 3M)> people inrterptet in different way ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2$>&1 3M)> yes they do......even though #esus also said @+he ingdom of 5od is within you@ krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>%= 3M)> true ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>%= 3M)> funny how people donKt see that relationship krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>2= 3M)> let us come out of indoctriination of selfish fellows krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>$$ 3M)> who wants to control us with fear ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>$C 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>=2 3M)> so that they enjoy monehy as being leaders krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>&2 3M)> or Lpower krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2=>&9 3M)> powert krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2&>%% 3M)> power ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2&>$9 3M)> or @@ as in 22 krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2&>=& 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2&>&1 3M)> but yes  understand what your saying ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2:>%1 3M)> so...we are all one....that that these are the vibrations  receive.....so how do you know what to respond toH ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2:>$: 3M)>  picture price as the average of these vibrations ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>2<>$2 3M)> im having difficulty e!plaining what  am trying to say ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$1>%$ 3M)> so...we are all one....that that these are the vibrations  receive.....where does time fit into thisH krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$1>&$ 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$2>%: 3M)> first after e!perience that state of minjd krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$2>1< 3M)> your mind is with fearlessness krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$2>2: 3M)> as there is no competion krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$2>$2 3M)> you are part of whole krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$2>=& 3M)> no competion krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$$>%C 3M)> all in you krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$$>1= 3M)> you understand peoploe krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$$>2& 3M)> you are a moving centre in every body krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$$>=% 3M)> then you sumpathise wiht krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$$>&$ 3M)> you act with all thier centre once you sympatise krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>%1 3M)> then real knoledge will come

 

 

 

 

   

krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>11 3M)> as you are centre of every thing krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>1< 3M)> then bliss krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>$% 3M)> as you are every where and you know every thing krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>$C 3M)> this is called satchit ananda krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$=>=< 3M)> e!istence knowledge and bliss krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>%1 3M)> you e!ist and you are every where krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>%= 3M)> you know krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>%: 3M)> every thngs krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>1& 3M)> and you are bliss full ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>=< 3M)> ok...this does make sense krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$&>&1 3M)> time is simply another element krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$9>%< 3M)> in indian sastras or scritures krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$9>$1 3M)> they follow their vibrations krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$9>=9 3M)> means it is like another element in periodic table of chemistry krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$9>&9 3M)> it got its own properties krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$:>%< 3M)> and again time is an illusion krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$:>1$ 3M)> what is time krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$:>2& 3M)> it is difference between two events krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$:>$< 3M)> just two events ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$:>&: 3M)> interesting..... krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$<>%< 3M)> we are indoctrinated wiht sun centre ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$<>1$ 3M)> the light bulb went on krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$<>2= 3M)> are we centre in this big big universe krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$<>$= 3M)> with sun alone krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$C>%: 3M)> H ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$C>19 3M)> 4o... feel we are not krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$C>2= 3M)> so rtake evens krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$C>2< 3M)> so take events krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>$C>=< 3M)> i like this sweet called badusha krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>%2 3M)> let us say i ate it today ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>11 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>1$ 3M)> when i did in the past krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>2= 3M)> this is an important krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>$= 3M)> difference between similar events krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>$C 3M)> and then comes

 

 

 

 

thirs krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>=1 3M)> third krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=%>&2 3M)> when i want to eat it again krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=1>1$ 3M)> and i want to go to a place krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=1>1: 3M)> i planned it krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=1>2< 3M)> when i did plan is an event krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=1>$9 3M)> when i have gone is an event krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=1>=9 3M)> when i did book is an event krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=2>2= 3M)> actually gann might have short of words to e!plain everying ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=2>29 3M)> *k......so everything has a start middle and end krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=2>2C 3M)> it is ot only squaring krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=2>$C 3M)> it comdes with triangle square an cirlce krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=2>=C 3M)> and their meeting points krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=$>%= 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=$>1= 3M)> then comes the another concpet called balancing krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=$>$9 3M)> this all about initial vibration ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>==>2< 3M)> nitial 0ibration from the start krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>==>=: 3M)> whole three evenrts part of initial vibration krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>%9 3M)> then it doble and tribles in future after going there krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>%< 3M)> we enjoy krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>21 3M)> within a time frame or limit krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>2& 3M)> afterwards krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>2C 3M)> after going there ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=&>=9 3M)> but...this is where  am confused ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>%= 3M)> time " to create a limit would imply that this is bounded krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>%& 3M)> small end in intiaal vibration krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>1& 3M)> whole e!perience repeat at higher lelve krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>1< 3M)> level krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>=2 3M)> this is beging of another cycle ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=9>=C 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>%1 3M)> initial vibration is only 1.: krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>%: 3M)> 1;: ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>$= 3M)> JJJ.....and final vibration is always $ ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>=$ 3M)> ...... read this krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>== 3M)> good point

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>=9 3M)> this is 5ann ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>&& 3M)> +++3...in the forward krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=:>&: 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>%1 3M)> omg.....you e!plained it krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>%$ 3M)> this three and seven ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>%< 3M)>  have not been able to understand that krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>11 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>1= 3M)> wowJ ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>$% 3M)> and that is why $ I : ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>=% 3M)> and why = is square ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=<>&C 3M)> and $N:I 1 krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>%9 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>1& 3M)> Murali....wow.... ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>2= 3M)> my eyes ... can see a bit better ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>2: 3M)> krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>$2 3M)> 9 < 1% krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>$= 3M)> half them krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>=% 3M)> $ = & krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>=C>&= 3M)> this is dr. ramanuja maths krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&%>2% 3M)> creation and everything occurs in this numbers krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&%>&% 3M)> 1 goes with every tihng krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&1>%2 3M)> with two we can half and double anything krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&1>%< 3M)> so 1 2 $ = & krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&1>1= 3M)> natural sequence krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&2>%& 3M)> this $ = & are very important krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&2>1$ 3M)> three plus four are seven ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>%C 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>1C 3M)> : I 1 krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>29 3M)> thiis inital vibration ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>$< 3M)> starting to understand this concept krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>$C 3M)> doubles withing a time limit krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&$>&1 3M)> within krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>%= 3M)> my key board giving a problem krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>%: 3M)> so mistakes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>2$ 3M)> this is a must krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>$$ 3M)> provided we start correctlyu krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>$C 3M)> correctly ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>&$ 3M)> Murali....... need to step away for a bit krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>&& 3M)> it is not simply

 

doublign ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&=>&C 3M)> might be about $% minutes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&&>%$ 3M)> doubling krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&&>1% 3M)> it is again mathematical relation krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&&>1= 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&&>1& 3M)> keep talking ... will catch up when  can krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 12>&&>2$ 3M)> ok ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>22>%= 3M)> im back...sorry about that ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>22>1: 3M)> just need a minute to catch up krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2$>%< 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2$>2< 3M)> can i use this conversation to post it in group ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2$>&& 3M)> yes you may ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2$>&C 3M)> with my blessing krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2=>%= 3M)> ok than ou ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2&>21 3M)> ok... understand the math relationship and the higher level ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>1$ 3M)> where does balancing fit ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>21 3M)> H krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>=C 3M)> life is not ideal we need ot balance it to make it ideaKl ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2<>%9 3M)> true

my conversation with ganndude on squares part 2

 

murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 2% 2%%: ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2&>21 3M)> ok... understand the math relationship and the higher level ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>1$ 3M)> where does balancing fit ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>21 3M)> H krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2:>=C 3M)> life is not ideal we need ot balance it to make it ideaKl ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2<>%9 3M)> true ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2C>=9 3M)> so....its always balancing krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>2C>&C 3M)> sometimes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$%>1= 3M)> rarely it comes with ideal situation ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>%% 3M)> or our perception of what is ideal is mearly a catalyst for something not ordeal later krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>%$ 3M)> copoied and sent ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>%9 3M)> k krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>1: 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>2$ 3M)> thus the e!tremes cause e!tremes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>$& 3M)> and the middles

 

 

 

     

are always trying to return to the middle krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$1>$: 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$2>1= 3M)> yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$2>$< 3M)> ah...you understood that.... was about to retype iut krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$$>19 3M)> true krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$$>2: 3M)> e!tremec auwe with with a mathematrical relation ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$$>&1 3M)> ok....so if an e!treme is a higher power.....say 1& 'going up from $)....where does it have to drop toH ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>1% 3M)>  realiAe this is the time element krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>19 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>2$ 3M)> one thing i want tell importatn krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>$1 3M)> gann is not about tunring points krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>$2 3M)> mostly krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$=>&% 3M)> it is about long pull identificatioin krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$&>%& 3M)> that is wher he traded krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$&>1: 3M)> as far his trading is concerned ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$&>1: 3M)> ok....that makes sense ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$&>2: 3M)> he was always talking about longer cycles krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$&>$$ 3M)> prediction is different krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$9>%1 3M)> he come with a tag while prediction krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$9>2% 3M)> like it resist there at e!act point krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$9>$& 3M)> but until there is a breakout krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$9>=& 3M)> means he dont the correction depth krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$:>%% 3M)> breakout can happen any time krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$:>%: 3M)> or it is not tradeable always krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$:>19 3M)> he can use stoploss there ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>11 3M)> ok....so he was occassional wrong on time is what you are saying krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>1< 3M)> no krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>$9 3M)> i am talking about practicality of trading ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>=$ 3M)> ohJ krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>== 3M)> he did trade tops some time krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$<>&C 3M)> they are just prediction krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$C>%9 3M)> he can use stop loss krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$C>19 3M)> where he books is question

 

   

 

   

 

krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$C>2: 3M)> until there si a break out he can trade krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$C>$C 3M)> that with stoploss krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>$C>&= 3M)> or wiht actual position krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>%= 3M)> so best thing for him is krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>%C 3M)> trading long pull market krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>1$ 3M)> predictig and trading krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>2= 3M)> the fun is he stopped tradng for 1< year on stocks krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>$1 3M)> do you believe krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>$: 3M)> canot he use minor cyles ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>&= 3M)> he never used minor cyclesH krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>&& 3M)> he dint ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=%>&< 3M)> wow ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>%1 3M)> no ...had no idea krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>%C 3M)> he used but stopped krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>1$ 3M)> afterward krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>1C 3M)> he is interested in long pulls krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>$2 3M)> strike on success ful trade is different krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=1>=& 3M)> from trading long pulls is different krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=2>%$ 3M)> he can be great with success rate krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=2>1% 3M)> on strike basis krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=2>2< 3M)> he can do the same job one single long pulls krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=2>$& 3M)> than on tops and bottoms krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=$>22 3M)> in his own statemnet he dint trade stocks for 1< years krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=$>$= 3M)> as they have not given large moves ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>==>1& 3M)> wow ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>==>29 3M)> that is amaAing ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=&>=% 3M)> Market summary *ct 1C " Elose marketOchart Dow 1$&22.%2 "$99.C= '"2.9=G) 4asdaq 2:2&.19 ":=.1& '"2.9&G) -P7 &%% 1&%%.9$ "$C.=& '"2.&9G) krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=&>=< 3M)> i am ingterested in idenfying initial vibration krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=9>1< 3M)> adn see how it moves with higher vibratin within a time frame krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=9>2$ 3M)> e!act date krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=9>2< 3M)> and rate where it will go krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=9>$: 3M)> before 3 +M, ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=9>&: 3M)> that appears to be my ne!t task as well krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=:>%< 3M)> so min touch point

 

of price with ma! time window ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=:>1$ 3M)> once  injest everything you have said krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=:>1& 3M)> e!act time window ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=:>=& 3M)>  may have a means to assist you with that krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=:>&9 3M)> dont be wiht tops and bottms it frustrates you ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>%% 3M)> as far as masuring goes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>%= 3M)> measuring krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>%: 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>$: 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>=& 3M)> how do you assist me ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=<>=C 3M)> basically a spreadsheet.....it works off of the natural root of numbers but its also adding in the difference in time .& ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=C>$& 3M)>  am finding it promising as  am able to get the vibrations of a object with repect to the degree of the move fairly well ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>=C>&$ 3M)> you may need to adjust for price....$ decimals instead of = ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&%>%: 3M)>  found that to be the case when  switched from trading 5old to trading ,uro ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&%>=% 3M)>  will email it once  clean it up.... will add instructions so you can make your own adjustments ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&1>%C 3M)> what type of spreadsheet are you usingH ,!celH *pen *fficeH ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&1>2& 3M)> *r  can make it a shared -- via 5oogle ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&$>&$ 3M)> any preferenceH krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&=>=% 3M)> let me understamd wjat you sadi krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&=>=& 3M)> any how you can send me krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&=>&: 3M)> ut htis metastock gann is better ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&=>&: 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&&>%= 3M)> it does every thing simply ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&&>2$ 3M)> Metastock is best for charting krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&&>2= 3M)> ti divides time and price perfectly krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&&>$1 3M)> e!cept odd numbers krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&&>&C 3M)> but it is the main tool i mean fgann grid krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&9>%% 3M)> i use krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&9>%C 3M)> nothing else until now krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&9>1C 3M)> you can show me better way krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&9>$$ 3M)> let me understand send it

 

   

 

 

 

ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&:>1% 3M)> np...need another 2 mins...just adding some te!t krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 1>&:>2= 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%%>1% 3M)> i posted our conversation ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%1>%: 3M)> *k krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%2>11 3M)> i misunderstqnd carpenter squaure krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%2>1: 3M)> as computer square krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%2>2$ 3M)> i use gann grid krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%2>$< 3M)> in conversation i said yes byn mistake krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%$>$% 3M)> eventhogh it can be used on paper krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%$>$$ 3M)> no difference ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%9>$< 3M)> sorry this is taking a while.... have a few cells that are hard coded that  am fi!ing ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>%9>&9 3M)> when  made a change the cells remained where they were originally ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>11>11 3M)> done....sending ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>11>2: 3M)> krishnapvmQ...H ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>12>%2 3M)> mailto>nope..krishnapvmQ... ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>12>%= 3M)> got it ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1$>12 3M)> sent krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1=>%2 3M)> yes krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1=>2% 3M)> krishnapvmQ... krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1=>&% 3M)> i said yes to your questin that i use carpenter square in the conversation krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1&>%2 3M)> but i use gann grid in metastock krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1&>2$ 3M)> it is a simple matter though it is a mistake i said yes ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1&>$: 3M)> no big deal krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1&>$< 3M)> that was copied and sent ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>1&>&9 3M)> i doubt anyone is going to go out and buy a carpenter square ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>19>%2 3M)> donKt worry about it krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>19>1$ 3M)> ok krishnapvm '1%;2%;2%%: 2>19>2= 3M)> people read our messages ganndude2%%= '1%;2%;2%%: 2>19>== 3M)> you should have

what happend on 19th october at three pm beforre the day of the great fall

murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 2% 2%%: i was verifying some stock on that day found that some

shares are meetinpr price and the begining point of square are very sharp falls as gann said history repeats. i thouth that many shares are going to witness sharp fall. especially so many front line stock are meeting time. so i want to caution them on that on frontline stock if not money will be controlled by the brokers in the form of marign calls. irrespecitve of what ever the recovery afterwards happens. even on close to close until 1Cth it is disaster as far margin calls are concerned. this is practial issue first than thoeries. in fact on the same day i mean 19th night i gave fresh calls on other stocks which are meeting my criteria which are for a long pull soon as gann said each share is different like an atom which have their own wave length and properties. as regards my opinion on calling tops and bottom i e!plained in the second part of converstation with gann dude. and another thing i am not a hero nor a Aero i am just an ahother energy like you in this huge nature. nature goes on and nature within goes on

trding is like marathon session we need a philsophy and plan to reach our gaol. we encounter many thing in our journey but our aim is reach our goal irrespective of hindrances and mistakes.

what happend on 19th october at three pm beforre the day of the great fall

murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1 2%%: Dear friends 4othing will be ending in the market. each wave got its own effect. it will be seen in the market. it is like waves. higher vibrartions push them to higher levels. we can work with few or one vibratins at a time. as regards my prediction after fall. i gave this message on 21st krishnapvm '1%;21;2%%: 1%>$$>1& 7M)> technical update bse inde!. market fallen sharply but not followed by continuous fall but gave sharp reversal three times. at nearly 1:$%%. if we see this level from this past 1& dats this area acted as important support level seven times. which a very key area according to me every time bse inde! touched that level it made a sharp revdersal. this pattern alos can be said as three rivers in candlestick analysis krishnapvm '1%;22;2%%: 12>%=>%1 3M)> with bse it inde! and technolog bottomed out and banks atr their important support levels and market witness a very strop support levels from various sectors. dont be

panic and wary. clear support. and you know what happened sharpest and biggest rise in this hisory after support is tested. so sharpest and bigegest fall in abolute terms and biggest rise in absolute terms happened in few days and taken care of by gann methods. actaully this board is meant to discuss on theory and how to predict gann way. just to showy how gann works just i am giving. the support came at the gann levels.

 

this is how it works as far as price before a specific date on september ninth 'which is holiday)gann system has predicted hindaloc price to be touched before 29th november the last trading was on seventh the closing price is rs.1&&.C& krishnapvm 'C;C;2%%: 11>1:>$% 7M)> hindalco aiming for 2%2 before 29th november.

 

target reached before the specific date predicted i.e. on 1:th october when the major fall in the market occured. same way gann predicted commodity price as given in the ticker interew. price before a specific data. the same gann system predicted now for hindalco. thanks to time and price and gann system and rules. today i want to write about how vibration works how isolate a workable vibratioh on charts and analysis of first second page and last pages of tunnel thru air.

 

i am just a human dont e!pect me to be perfect i do mistakes. but vibrations dont do mistakes provided all rules are followed. i am happy with time and price prediction i use for my personal investments and trading.

programming gann murali krishna venkata puppala #an $ 2%1% dear friend gann said every thing vibrates. time and price are calucated in teh same way. i used to do with some gann tools. first i search for a starting point see the harmony. complete pardighm shift is

required to understand this. even money management is different for gann. trends i am taking and time values i am taking. this is just automated one. tested on many scrips and convinced it is working on many scrips well for each share values are different. this i am finding it by harmonic calculations. this i programmed for only longs. bear moves need different rules as gann said entirely different are applicable for bear moves. this automation i am checking from past two days

 programming gann L2 3ttachmentsR

murali krishna venkata puppala #an $ 2%1% dear gann trader finding the resistance points he had predicted. because he knows starting point. he knows vibration at a point. he calculated before hand by knowing the volocity. this gann did. levels by which ma! resistance can be met can be known by time factor. that is the time price is meeting time. this can be done. but gann is mainly about long pull trading. that is where the money is. price can be predicted before a specific date by knowing factor at initial cause. once that factor is known it works with clock work precision. imagine a still pond throw stone. what happens.

Elustered vibrations"practical aspects of gann

 

krishna #an C 2%1% vibration is fundamental as gann said. there are different vibrations that work simultaneously. these vibratons some times interfere with each other. he has to isolate a vibration that works best for trading. all vibrations may not be suitable for trading. some give long pull depending on the nature of vibration. every thing got the limits they run up to the limits and shows resistance. some vibrations will clue a clue to where it will and where they stop. but other vibration take them to higher level. this is where the problem is prices will overshoot because other vibrations are also working. some times higher vibration change the time aspect of vibrations and their limits but price targets will reach . higher vibrations are like friends. some time we have to wait for a friend. he will take us to higher level than our e!pectations.

gann used to say it will not go above a particular price unless and until there is a break out. this is due to clustered vibrations. this is my opinion at present with my present knowledge

impulse and vibration

murali krishna venkata puppala #an 1C 2%1% the rules applied to bull markets are not same as bear markets. bull markets thrust on themselves. but bear markets are in proportion to bull markets. when time meets price reversal is imminent. and time and price are calculated in the same way. krishnapvm

impulse and vibration

murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2$ 2%1%  think we are going in a direction

mpulses are easy to predict than bear markets. 3s prices and bear markets are dirty. *bserver changing what is being observed'berg e!perimentH) mpulses gives a clue .

so above so below.

+hese types of esoteric subject comes from a wordless state of mind.

4ature cannot e!ploit itself. 5ann became part of nature itself. 5ann gave these in esoteric way to those who are ready and open +his can only be understood in esoteric and no other way. 5ann is best teacher that way.

5ann got a different understanding of god. 6e was spiritual.

+o understand these natural laws we need a complete paradigm shift n *ur thinking.

4ature got the uncanny ability to fool. Fe cannot e!ploit them. Fe can harness them

f all the people knows the secret who will win who will loose. -o secret may be part of nature. -o gann dint reveal or cannot reveal the secret.

+hese are my present thoughts and e!periences to certain e!tent. chane is the only constant.

krishnapvm

impulse and vibration

murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2= 2%1% behind the wall god works with numbers. so mundane and spirituality may be of difference in degree not in kind. i think the word maths came from root word meaning learning or fond of learning. or can also mean life. much of the gann is working with arithmetic and the concept so above so below. what is repeating in gann parlance is some thing weird. when we say two things meet. we should know common unit with which we measure them both.

dear serious students of gann  

krishnapvm #ul 2= 2%%< dear serious students of gann i would like you to ponder over why gann gave complete details of when robert purchased what he purchased and

what rate and on which date. this is very important. what he did with dates and price and how they meet each other how to the date as number and how to link price wiht that number. it is for serious students of gann. the persons with constructive thinking can participate others can ignore my messages

initial vibration multiplying itself and following a sequence

murali krishna venkata puppala #ul $% 2%%< please see the attachment of chart of reliance industries which is again and again and again taking support and resistance at gann grid lines many times. for this i followed some points given below. i searched back for a condition which is based on dr. ramanujan maths which says univers moves by &;= and comes down by 1.&. second after that i found the unit for price and time. third after that i multiplied initial calcualtion to suit present conditions. multiplication is simple 1 2 $ = & sequence. now shifted the grid ot important lows. this grid works from any direction up and below left and right. as robert instruments can works lowering the instruement. see how well the grid lines actging as support and resistance until there is a good break as gann said. happy trading krishnapvm

how did gann predict the crash one year in advance

 

krishnapvm 3ug 2& 2%%< he has used the following. he squared the time. one end of the square is swing high and swing low'not the square end) taking a ratio of time he predicted the e!act date on which market crashes. square is a four in gann parlance. he has divided the ratio of the sauare'four) into a specific ratio means sqaure is divided into two parts. both are related with a specific ratio.the point where square is divided is swing low. happy trading.

5annKs -eptember 1C%C Fheat orecast

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 2< 2%%C dear smithsonjames your observation is mostly correct as regards gannKs ability time. he failed some times.

to forecast every

the thing is when he was right his targets are magically and astonishingly correct. this is magical part of the vibration theory. as gann told starting point is important. if starting point is not correct whole analysis will go awry. starting point is sometimes eluding. but gann found the truth of the vibration. the secret is in the musical octaves and half life in atomic theories and the truth is said in veiled language about the initatial vibration in the novel tunnel through air. for a clue study when robert and his brohers are born and when his sister is born. thanks for giving me an opportunity to share my thoughts humbly yours krishnapvm

initial vibration murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 1: 2%%C initial vibration itself is vibrating here some calcuations for your perusal. total number of days in a year $9& divide by : you will get &2 add that to $9& we are getting =1: further divide &2 by : we are getting again : nearly we add it to =1: we are getting nearer to number of pages in tunnel thru air =2$. this is last seven is end of the musical octave and begining of new one. what is an year according gann parlance we can discuss later.once initial vibration is found the calculation is easy to know how gann predicted the time for a particular scrip or commodity reaches a particular level. for price calculation he used dr. ramanujan maths 1%;< how universe moves that is &;= or 1.2& double it you will get 2.& this is important number. doubling of itself. initial vibration inner and outer squares circle and triangles

 

krishna Dec 1C 2%%C initial vibration is main important thing. this is inner triangle. first vibration has to be proved by its price by resolving itself in to higher vibration. that means outer triangle. once it is proved by certain rate of vibration. then ne!t level target can be predicted within a specific time window. starting point is important thing in gann. and another thing to be noted while studying gann is that simultaneously two forces of negative and positive will be working at different levels and strength. that will be later discussion.

all swings are cyclical

 

krishna Dec 2% 2%%C gann said all swings are cyclical. all means all. also said precise generated themselves will give a clue to what is going to happen. he also said some time we have to go very long back to see the high or low now. all swings are related and cyclical. they are related in a very precise mathematical way of course inr /elation to time. some times gann used to say a scrip will not cross particular price unless there is a break out. here he used past clear swings to say that. as we see many small medium and big swings are confusing us. but they are related mathematically. for a trend to be determined gann said a wave that is bigger in time as well as price to be studied for a particular phase.

rate of vibration should be proved  

krishna Dec 21 2%%C initial vibration is best e!plained like first wave formed when a stone is thrown in a still pond. ne!t wave is related to first wave by a particular rate of vibration. once it is done this rate will be applicable for a particular phase. so it works like a fractal. once he said price alone is enough. but this i believe is for a particular condition. once that conditin is proved we can simply know the best resistance and support points.

when the cause is born

 

krishna Dec 22 2%%C cause can happen at any time while bear moves are still under way. gann used to say a price will go high and touch a particular level and before that it should touch a particular low. so the cause of prediction of higher prices is born even before low is established. what ever happens in between it has to reach high prediction. we start all out calclation from some low which are seem to be bear market botttoms. the cause may not be occuring at that time.it may occur right in the middle of the bear market.

cause for lower prices and rules are different from cause and rules for up targets. so different rules for different phases. even factors for calculating and predicting high targets are different from factors for calculting and predicing lower targets.

when time meets price reversal is imminent

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 2: 2%%C time and price are interchangeable and used in the same way for calculations. there should be a common unit by which charts are done. each share and commodity got individual time and price unit. then only it is possible for squaring at least on manual paper. this scaling is most important . each share got its own individuality. but there are some universal time limits set by nature which are almost applicable to all.

in this seemingly jungle of dirty price structure there is underlying maths. fractal nature. only thing need to be known is from where to start the calculation. for this vibration is fundamental. this time thing to ponder is so above so below. thanking you

secret of gann seven and my journey to seven hills"my previous post murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2= 2%1%

secret of gann seven and my journy to seven hills -itting before the computer screen inundated with plethora of charts on the screen searching for gann seven multiplied seven years and waiting for action for the action followed by another seven years of jubilee period  was informed one of the company team where  invested as a venture capitalist is going to seven hills'tirupati) for a business the most pious place for hindus.  asked them to book for me too. Many times  went there on the bear foot all the way touching all seven hills to the top of the seventh where the god of hindus 'the reincarnatin of 0ishnu or narayana one of the trinity of hindu god resides. ,njoying the serene beauty surrounded by the hills  was watching the froAen geometry into these ancient sculptures of the temples. 3maAed by the innumerable number of devotess wating to worship througout ages it occurred to me it is not froAen geometry. t was morning 2 o clock in the chilling cold all seven doors opened for us to have the opportunity of seeing the god. Elosed my eyes to have the imprint of god along with principles he taught. Fhen  turned the opposite  saw a mirror.  have seen the god in the mirror.  have seen my self too. 5od and mirror another froAen geometry gann saying of angular pitch. -eeing and moving where is the third of the triangle other than god and mirror.  was moving the distance between me the god and mirror changing. +ime froAen for me at that time from seven years of gann to just events. +here was water flowing beneath my feet. t is said where ever the god narayana or 0ishnu resides water should be there. t is customary t in the pictures to show god narayana in the water with yogic sleep on the serpent curled three and

half times'half of seven). 3fterward  remember the /obert hero was trying make his bicycle to float on water. +his is another way of telling he is trying two different cycles to work together.

impulse and vibration murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2& 2%1% with due respects to all pebbles and ripples effects are there whether can we trade all ripple effects. some people trade ripple effects some same trade bigger effects. for each impulse give a chance. gann told these laws of vibrations are known

by the behaviour of price itself.

so he sees the price in relation to time to know its vibration. we need not go far. he has not gone beyond price effect to work with vibration. i see these in tick chart i see this one min chart five min chart houlry daily

impulse and vibration murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2& 2%1% and would like to add there are effects and counter effects simultaneously working. we need to know which works at a particular time. so we need to know when which impulse suits our particular trade. so we need alienate those impulse for which there is no strong interference from other impulse.

impulse and vibration murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2& 2%1% as gann said we have to keep squares of odd and even numbers this will tell not only the effect but also the cause. square circle and triangle properties murali krishna venkata puppala eb 9 2%1% with due respects to all gann has used e!tensively the properties of square circle and triangle in his calculation for prediction of targets and resistance and sppport points. while using cirlce he has used vibrating circle with mathematical relation. this combining with number 22= which is a goddes number 'total number of worlds of

goddess shakthi or energy) is his calucations. these are known by the values that are generated with interchangeability of price and time values

cause of the market movement"begining point

murali krishna venkata puppala eb 1: 2%1% vibration calculations are done from the price behaviour in a time window itself. we need not go far . cause is not known outside of the price. vibration is fundmantal as gann said. vibration is known by the price generated. once begining point is known effect is known. gann searched for the begining point and gone far back to validate current situation. but one thing. effect becomes the cause for ne!t effect. causes and effects within causes and effect. circle within circle squares within squares.

krishnapvm

rate of vibration and time window

murali krishna venkata puppala eb 2& 2%1% gann predicted the price and time targets depending on the rate of vibration'phase of the market) of stocks and commodities and it gives clues to specific date by which a particular share or commodity reaches the target. krishnapvm

four doors to the square

murali krishna venkata puppala eb 29 2%1% it is well known that square of nine of gann is directly from india. which is widely used for different purposes in india. it is from sayanmika sastra. which is also used for vastu or construction of houses and temples. these are called yantras. mostly all yantras have four doors. in some yantras it is depicted as open doors. comming ot the point of gann resistances it will resist when it resist the four walls. but when it find the door it jumps to the ne!t cycle.

 

krishnapvm

5344 34 B*S M,+6*D murali krishna venkata puppala 3pr 11 2%1% gann angles or bo! is just a tool and so many other concepts are involved. this fan should be kept in mind along with the other aspects like when time meets price. how they meet. when we should call them as meeting. so many points are touched on gann lines. all are not reversing where price is touching those lines.

4ature and numbers"some interesting numbers on jupiter and pyramid

murali krishna venkata puppala 3pr 1$ 2%1% time taken by jupiter to make full round around itself

$&:%% seconds

square root of $&:%% 1<<.C===$9$   =T1<<.C===$9$ :&&.::::=&1 four sides of pyramid in meters 2$%.29N2$%.$CN2$%.=&N2$%.$9 average of four sides  

if we convert

2$%.$9& :&&.::::=&1 in to meters

2$%.$91

in feet :&&.::::=&1

four times of time taken by jupiter to one round is equal to pyramid measurements so pyramid of giAa is related to jupiter

4ature and numbers"some interesting numbers on ju... murali krishna venkata puppala 3pr 1= 2%1%

some more interesting numbers jupiter diameter

1=2<9:

 

=T1=2<9:I&:1=9< pyramid square area

:&9T:&9

I&:1&$9

&:1&$9;&:1=9
i will give more astounding evidence of how pyramid is related to jupiter.

4ature and numbers"some interesting numbers on jupiter and pyramid

murali krishna venkata puppala 3pr 1& 2%1% with due respect to all

we are not building a house here. so below so above. if we know inner we know outer. this concept is different from building a house. same characters we see at the smallest and highest lelvel. if we know the starting point as gann said every thing is a fractals starting from a particular low and how point. thanks and regards humbly yours  

krishnapvm

fibonicci self similarity and gann

 

krishna #un 29 2%1% with due respect to all fibonicci concepts and self similarity are corner stones of gann methodology. basically it is 1.91< and 2.91< whether you multiply or add you will get =.2$9 if you take out last number it is =.2$

add number of pages of ttta book =1
 

krishnapvm

this is how time meets price until there is a breakout

murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 2: 2%1% price moves in self similarity time moves in non linear method when they both meet reversal is imminent. that is what gann says. like produces like that is what gann said

this is how time meets price until there is a breakout murali krishna venkata puppala #ul $% 2%1% market follows the rhythm right. but with mathematical precision. today low or high is related to past high or low in e!act proportion. but need to find out where from to start. once these things are known forest becomes a garden

Market and Mass 7ressure chart.  

krishna #ul $1 2%1% with due respect i dont know how it has been done but i do believe gann used some fi!ed number of days to find the mass pressure dates in advance they are precise to two or three dates. all swings are cyclical and that is true with my e!perience. and that is what gann said thank you  

sincererely

 

krishnapvm time P price square murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 12 2%1%

when time meets price reversal is imminent until there is a break outr and see time. time get adjusted because forces behind the vibration themselves are vibrating as said by gann. so this difference.

/eturn to basics> Fhat is really a topH or bottomH or a swingH

murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1& 2%1% dear james you are right. but at the same time =& degree angle has to be taken into account for tops and bottoms. how to draw the =& degree angle. if the top occurs before =& degree angle gann was reasonably sure that it will resist and form a top. but he used to say this will not go beyond the price until there is a breakout. simultaneously so many cycles are at work it is a tedious to work all cycles. how to draw the =& degreee angle is there with you already. thank you

/eturn to basics> Fhat is really a topH or bottomH or a swingH murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1& 2%1% intensity of top depends on the time factors. small resistances and large resistances occurs. as mihai question is answered. even small reisistance at a particular level is a top in gann parlance. for intensity as i told need to see the time factors.

/eturn to basics> Fhat is really a topH or bottomH or a swingH murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1& 2%1% 4ow  could ask> @but why this price resistanceH@ @and how time gives power to these resistancesH@ @and why time gives power in the first placeH@ we are affected by the seasons. all planets moves in cycles and we are affected by the seasonal cycles and it affects our life and life styles some how. we sleep and awake depending on the sun movement. our lives depends on these

cycles. so our mass behaviour. intensity of cycle depends on its previous performance. as per my e!perience a cycles themselves rotates cyclically with one failure out of seven. so i see for a failure also in the past. so that this will not occur now. gann said vibration is by the price bevahiour itself. vibration is fundamental. cause and effect are in the price itself as gann said. persoanlly i dont think study.

gann used astrology as the main determining factor for

he used simple maths. adding and subtracting or multiplying and dividing. as the cycles study involves lot of work'he has to see many cycles and their intensity). may be for confirmation he has used other methods ot know quickly whether he is right. as each planets got their own cycles and own rate of vibration so each share has got its own rate of vibration. but all shares got one common factor to calculate for time limit. this is a multiplying number from the starting point. starting point is not a single price but it is a range with a particular defined behaviour. starting point need not always absolute low. gann said start your calculations from second or third bottom.

/eturn to basics> Fhat is really a topH or bottomH or a swingH murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1: 2%1% my reading and my e!periment adn practice says time is the important element and both price and time are related to each other. time limits and price target go according to cause.

/eturn to basics> Fhat is really a topH or bottomH or a swingH murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 1: 2%1% with due respects to all

but sharp rises can be predicted when time limit is nearer adn still price has not moved mu ch. this is what gann said when time is up volumes rises price increase momentum

increases.

there is a time limit. some shares go to the target much before the time limit some at the middle some at the end. when price has not moved until the end just like wheat chart of gann. returns are heavy. in single day it moved heavily. so what i am saying is. gann dont want to reveal the secret one thing and another thing is he is unable to do that. e!plaining directly is much more difficult than e!plaining in parables and weird language. i dint clain perfection. it is a life long learning. thank you

sensitivity to initial conditions

murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1< 2%1% with due respects to all i want to summarise with my present knowledge in simple world or a single statement what is gann. -,4-+0+8 +* 4+3 E*4D+*41.these initital conidtions can be defined. 2.there are many initial conditions with different perioditical properties $.there are negative and positive forces. =.dominating initial conditions can be traded with reasonable accuracy =. starting point is important

 

summary

murali krishna venkata puppala eb 12 2%11 gann used geometry and maths to find the vibration of each stock. how he has determined the future price before a specific date. he has combined price and time which are to be calculated in the same way for reversals.ut for predicting price before a date. he has used price method of fractals. like love stories and themes repeating in the main story of tunnel thru air. for time he equated low price and high price as number of days. but which low high and range or half of range or half of high or low to be taken to be taken for confirmation. he has taken fractal of price

he has taken high low range and division of them to equate for number days. then he balanced the the time. then he predicted price before a date  

humbly yourself krishnapvm

all highs and lows vibrate

murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 2 2%11 each high and low are related to past high and low with mathematical precision. and also each and lows makes circle both in time and price and also related to number vibration. humbly yours  

krishnapvm

time factor  

krishna 3ug $% 2%11 i believe that jesse levermore and gann shared some secrets of the time factor. as jesse also used the same word of time factor and its usage. please refer to his book how to trade stocks. this time factor is no way related to just form and time . it is combination of these two and weird.

Fhat is aw of 0ibration based on H murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1 2%11 i believe that we are seeking the right question as posed by abhay. instead of discussing our own way of thinking let us ponder over what gann said and did. vibration is not a single concept. it is combination of concepts. for clarfication and avoiding some cobwebs i would like you to picturise a situation. you are sitting before a still pond and you thrown a small stone. waves will be occuring. they are e!panding and relation between waves are mathematical. now you throw a big stone with more force. it will have have bigger perturbation causing bigger waves. bigger waves some times interferes. with smaller waves bigger waves rules. bigger and initial waves are the seed wave. all other waves depend on biger waves. it is like a big bang. visualise this. at higher level and lower level the same form is maintained mathematically. that is why gann said all highs and lows are in perfection mathematical relation ot previous high or

low. some times levels of previous and ne!t from a point has to be taken. that is why robert was in search of marie in the sunshine special from one e!treme to other e!treme. this is how i see it yours krishnapvm

Fhat is aw of 0ibration based on H '/,DS)

murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1C 2%11 U Fithin the circle forms the square there is an inner circle and an inner square as well as an outer square and an outer circle which prove the ourth Dimension in working out price movementsV. Ean anyone give insight on what are the four dimensions of price movements 5ann illuded to in this statemantH Brian...

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analysis of the novel tunnel thru air "by wd gann market legend" embedded secrets  

krishna 4ov 2& 2%11 i was handed over a tour programme to the south of india. in that weird name like vakraturai appeared. i wondered what it must be. By the time i went there it was sunny evening. many of the foreigners visiting the imposing structures of the temple. main deity of the temple mother goddess. 6er head was shown to be bent down. i wonder how can creation occur from involution. i was asked to rotate three one side and seven opposite side. what is this three and seven. even bija yantra is with numbers involuted. and it is called seed yantra. i was pondering over this idea of how evolution occurs from involution. is there any practial application of the idea. to come stright to the point seed of the bull market occuring right in the middle of the bear market. then i thought energy travels from point to point from a fi!ed point in the point. fi!ed point is not a single point. it is a three pointed 'triangle). in order to know the future we should know the past. and start from a proper starting point. gann started the novel with dedication of the novel tunnel thru the air or looking back from 1C=%'double title to the novel)to the mother and his old friend

in te!as. these two events in the past are important to him. when similar events occurs that is your circle of event in time element. events repeating in similar fasion. this is what gann is after. each event is related to other events in the future. every thing is related. in the foreword itself gann mentioned the importance of three and seven. the the theme of the novel is about these number in combination with octaves. the novel started with the words where the hero robert is born. e!tremet north east corner of lone star state of te!as. stright away he is referring about square of nine'sayanmika sastra used in vastu in india) and fi!ed point star. robert is the third son here again the theme of the three. first son died in sanfransico earth quake this happened. can you google it. it is april 1<1C%9. when the hero of the novel robert is born. sunday night june Cnth 1C%9. how many days passed between these two events. &2 days right. do you find any relation between the these days and angle of great pyramid at giAa. giAa pyramid angle is rounded off to &2. this is very important. we are after numbers and themes of the books. which are repeating. the same degrees appears in big triangles in shree yantra. i will come with more analysis of the novel wait please

 

yours humbly krishnapvm

gann time and price cycles

murali krishna venkata puppala #an 2: 2%12 3s gann e!pressed clearly his method works on all time frames. from min chart to medium to long term. this is the uniqueness of gann methodology. these cycles are seen in price structure itself ofcourse related to time frame. at one stage gann said if he is given high and low he can predict what will happen in a period. wave identification with some conditions are imortant. higher is the replica of the lower. but these waves are hidden in maAe of other waves. first we need to decide which wave to play and whether conditions e!ist to go higher.

yours humbly krishnapvm

time meets price this is where the time meets the price when time meets the price reversal is imminet. this is a different strategy gann used for predicing reversal. this is five min chart. at least two or three signals will be generated for some shares whose wavelenght is that of a group of stocks. each share is different. for predicting price before used a different strategy. last time i gave the table of trading. it is just for lot profit and loss

6ow did F.D. 5ann project time and price with confidence during day tradingH murali krishna venkata puppala #ul : 2%12 this is a very pertinent question. there are many time frames gann worked. each time frame is related to higher and lower time frames. time is related to price. price is calculated in the same way as time. so there must be a unit of price for every time frame. for some shares it may be 1 for other it may be fractions. when time meets price reversal is imminent as gann said. shares are grouped according to their own rate of vibration. rate of vibration is found by upside fractal ratios and downside fractal'for both calucations or ratios are different). then we can know the rate of vibration for each. afterwards time and price imbalance and balances over a period. this is my present working which is showing some results yours humbly  

krishnapvm

some insgihts in concept of time meets price murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 1$ 2%12 /,0,/-3- * 5344 gann said time and price are calcualated in the same way. even though it is a simple statement. there are many concepts involved. one of the important concept is fractal nature of repetition theme at each stage up or down. rules for bull market are different than bear market in smaller time frames even though reversal happens when time meets price  some times they are swept of by the vibrations of higher nature. when time meets price reversal is imminent i verified on all time frames. when i am verifying on weekly charts the signals are more profitable some times smaller time frame vibrations and bigger time vibration are meeting. 'time meets price in both time frames). 7/E, B,*/, 3 D3+,. gann used the ocatve system to predict the price before a date. when time is not in balance with price. it will get adjusted into the future until is meeting price again before a octave time frame. gann said whatever happens in between it need to go there. he is only taking points in the maAe of other points. some times he has not taken ultimate or important bottom or top. it is a point to point calculations. gann given direct his literature.

clues. only thing is they are sprinkled in different part of

musical octave system

robert and his friend majored in physics and chemistry. but marie joins music college. this is the point in veiled way gann is eluding us to. humbly yours  

krishnapvm

etter from 5344 interesting read

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep = 2%12 it si good u can see teh thing in a different way too 1.91
etter from 5344 interesting read murali krishna venkata puppala -ep & 2%12 only a person who can duplicate his method atleast to certain e!tent can say that gann methods are not tradeable. gann did the following the he predicted that a particular share will not go above a particular rate until there is a breakout. gann predicted long pull markets before a particular date means predicted price before specific date. he gave projected curve for one year in advance he used to trade both sides of the markets like fore!ample it will touch =& before it touches $& i use gann as tool for pedicting the price target before date after timing the buy based on trend following system. this trend following methods also given by gann there are many concpets involved in his method. for e!ample most important is starting point. some people start with lowest point. starting point is not single low point or high point. three pointed one 'triange energy points)

this triangle can appear from any where in the maAe of many energy points. absolute lows and highs may not be of use for the triangle. gann asked to start from second or third bottom. gann gave many cluues. he finds it difficult to e!plain all concepts at one go i believe. as i encounter the same problem of e!plaining.

humbly yours. krishnapvm

etter from 5344 interesting read

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep & 2%12 a good topic has come up about cause and effect. we need to understand this with complete paradighm shift. in gann methodoloy cause and effect are same. effect become cause for higher effect. cause is known only by the effect. humbly yours krishnapvm

letter from 5344 interesting read "tops and bottoms

 

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep < 2%12 19C B 19C B -ave

i this attachment proves that gann methodolog predicts entry point for either for short or long. as said in ticker interews gann did some transactions on the same share on the same day half of which are eighther at high or bottom. i infer that he did give orders at high or bottom for entry point. for e!it he used his discretion. used time and price method for this humbly yours krishnapvm

etter from 5344 interesting read "=& degree anle

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep C 2%12 there are many concepts involved in =& degree angle i believe that =& degreee angle is an ideal situation where balancing concpet is applicable. after that it is deviation from that =& degree angle ofcourse in a perfect manthematical way. this needs high and low range and time. time and price are interrelated. concept of circle and square and triangle are applicable here. in the numbers generated itself is clue of circle square and triangle. humbly yours krishnapvm

etter from 5344 interesting read "6ow 5ann forecasted 1C2C murali krishna venkata puppala -ep C 2%12 that is a good question that needs to be answered. even though iumbly yam not able fully comprehend how he has done it. i believe that he used octave systmem using begining point of vibration. i use one vibration at a time. i dint use to predict different targets in different time frames. he knows where from to start. after ideal initial vibration. every thing is a deviation in a mathematical way. he predicted the waves just like waves formed in a still pond after a stone is thrown still much to e!plore on this. i am only trying ot predict effect of one vibration at a time. humbly yours krishnapvm

pure gann nothing else in these intraday recommendations.credit goes to w.d.gann murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 2: 2%12 Mr. 6enry 6all in his recent book devoted much space to @Eycles of 7rosperity and Depression@ which he found recurring at regular intervals of time. +he law which  have applied will not only give these long cycles or swings but the daily and even hourly movements of stocks. By knowing the e!act vibration of each individual stock  am able to determine at what point each will receive support and at what point the greatest resistance is to be met. Fe have seen gann give in one day si!teen successive orders in the same stock eight of which turned out to be at either the top or the bottom eighth of that particular swing. +he above we can positively verify.

i think this will clarify my point. it is given in ticker interew humbly yours krishnapvm

pure gann nothing else in these intraday recommendations.credit goes to w.d.gann murali krishna venkata puppala

4ov 2: 2%12

i guess the rules he mentioned are for ordninary traders with tradtioinal trading knowledge. but he used science to predict the market. that has not failed him. he has discussed about money managment too. he has not revealed his secrets directly. when he traded he traded with daring nerve as science will give that daring nerve. the most important thing is starting point. it is werd. for that time and price are required. price is some times dirty'as gann said it ). that time it might have failed because the sarting point was not clear. if we use science with proper money management we can do that what he did. with this post and my previus discussions i proved that gann is tradeable gann is not a charlaton. reistance points with crashes are predicted. and price before date prediction is demonstrated. and intraday. only thing that still eludes me is how he gave projected curve one year in advance. i am getting some clues as regards that.

simply gann nothing else in these intraday trades and recommendations murali krishna venkata puppala eb 2: 2%1$

this is only to prove consistency of gann methods that i am giving the resutls of the recommendations. if i need to summarise gann i say this. there is always a music of balance and imbalance for prices on different time frames. this causes the fluctuations in precise mathematical proportion

simply gann nothing else in these intraday trades and recommendations

murali krishna venkata puppala eb 19 2%1$ how many trades gann made in a single day before the advent of computer era to make momey. if we go by the interew of wyckoff and other record he did more transactions than that. how many orders a dealer can place in five hour trading day. more than 1%%. with oco and bracket orders available in india through some broker and sufficiently funded account. it is a small issue with dedicated dealer. this question should not arise atall. i will send this calls to you live give me ur phone number. have a good broker. my intention is to prove u that gann is tradeable in all time frames. predictions can be done with good accuracy. these calls can be verfied positively

with

a

time stamp in sms records.

humbly yours krishanpvm

back to basics"what gann actually did.

murali krishna venkata puppala Mar 1C C>2C 3M

time and again i believe strongly we need to go to basics inorder to align ourselves to the direction we are taking. gann did the following. 1).he predicted the long pull bull markets with e!act price before a precise date. 2)he gave the e!act price levels which will not be crossed unless there is a breakout. $)dates on which crashes occurs =)mass pressure dates. &) projected curve for inde!es any discussion which is not directed towards those things are not related to gann. 6umbly this is my belief at present. i am ready to be corrected if am mistaken whether only astro predicts the e!act price i dont know. if so what about his predictions in intraday.

6MB8 8*/krishnapvm

hero robert is unusually happy on page 2:9 in tunnel thru the air novel murali krishna venkata puppala May 11 2%1$ /obert is unusually happy on page 2:9 althou three years have passed after marieWs disappearance X  came to badrachalam '3ndhra pradesh state india) travelling appro!imately 1$< kilometers on some professional work Fhen  searched my mail 1$< mails are

waiting to be seen.

Many times this 1$< is appearing in life and markets. 7ush it off it is not going away. *k now gann enthusiasts we go to page no &2 where there is a reference of no :2 if we devide :2 by page no &2 you get 1$< 'never mind the decimals) 7age no 1$: +he ne!t time that he remembered anything he awoke on Monday morning with the sun streaming in thru the window of his hotel and realiAed that he had fallen asleep. +he little book U7oems +hat 6ave 6elped  

MeV

+he words sun streaming thru the window was repeated after the first page which seems to be a beginning point . if we add one to 1$: we get 1$< there /obert enquired about any telegram or long distance call about marie disappearance. 7age no 2:9 which is an octave of page no 1$< where reference of communication about missing marie occurred.

topic

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7age no 2:9 4 the all of 1C2C /obert and Falter made alarge amount of money in cotton and wheat. /obert was unusually happy. 3ltho over three years had passed without any direct news of Marie he was sure she was alive? felt that the time was not long to waitbefore she would reappear.

t seems that octave of 1$< which is 2:9 is a confirmation of future event.' do take them into my calculations some times) -B 9.1<.92> 3fter entering DitiKs womb ndra with the help of his thunderbolt cut into seven pieces her embryo which appeared like glowing gold. n seven places seven different living beings began crying. ndra told them @Do not cry@ and then he cut each of them into seven pieces again. -B 9.1<.9$> * ing being very much aggrieved they pleaded to ndra with folded hands saying @Dear ndra we are the Maruts your brothers. Fhy are you trying to kill usH@ -B 9.1<.9=> Fhen ndra saw that actually they were his devoted followers he said to them> f you are all my brothers you have nothing more to fear from me.

f we further enquire about 1$< we come to the knowledge that it is number related to fibonicci ratio.

-B 1.9.1:> * 0yasadeva at that time being e!ceedingly overpowered by feelings of happiness every part of my body became separately enlivened. Being absorbed in an ocean of ecstasy  could not see both myself and the ord. -B 1.9.1<> +he transcendental form of the ord as it is satisfies the mindKs desire and at once erases all mental incongruities. pon losing that form  suddenly got up being perturbed as is usual when one loses that which is desirable.

f we add 1$< to 192 which is another fibonicci ratio we get three'never mind the decimals) which gann given importance to. f we add 1$< to 292 we get four. our is a square in gann parlance +o further enquire about 1.91< if we square that we get 2.91< which is also a fibonicci ratios. f we further multiply that with 1.91<'1.91 n the millennium of the rHsHis the 7ersonality of 5odhead accepted the third empowered incarnation in the form of DevarsHi 4arada who is a great sage among the demigods. 6e collected e!positions of the 0edas which deal with devotional service and which inspire nonfruitive action.

+he themes include chemistry physics and mathematics and music. 6e was more influenced by the scientific community of that time and incorporated their science into his trading. +hose scientists of prominence were more influenced by 6induism by swami 0ivekananda. +his influence is seen in the writings of gann in the novel. 5ann is uncanny in his ability to predict the market movement one year in advance. 5ann is uncanny not a phony

3nd  am hungry '5oing to relish dinner in the sri

kalki hotel in badrachalam.)

3fter  finished my chores in badrachalam  went to the temple which is just a kilometer away from my stay.

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symmetrical triangle and begining point  

krishna #un 19 2%1$ 3s i have already discussed beginning point is not single point but a triangle. i believe strongly that it is a symmetrical triangle. we can see this point only after pondering over the statements that gann has made @ price and time are interchangeable. prce and time are calculated in the same way@ once the beginning point is known and using fractals of price and time factors we can predict price before a precise date as gann did. Most challenging part of gann is about his projected curve. all other can be duplicated to a large e!tent. i am getting some clues now on projected curve. may take time to completely unravel it.

/,0,F> H+he aw *f 0ibration> +he /evelation *f Filliam D 5annH by +ony 7lummer  

krishna 3ug 1= 2%1$ i subcribe to your views. most of what you wrote seems to be right. But i want to write further points which i believe are important.

1)time factor is important. 2)time and price are calculated in the same way. $)time and price are interchangeable. =)at one time gann told if he is given high and low he can predict the prices beofore a date.'here he told that price is enough. as signature of time factor is in price itself validating the idea that price and time are same.

Eoncept of time and price are same is not understood properly. the secret is in the octave system. elliott wave is different study of pattern. here we are studying the energy point to energy point calculation as far as gann is concerned this is what i believe with my present knowledge.

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/,0,F> H+he aw *f 0ibration> +he /evelation *f Filliam D 5annH by +ony 7lummer  

krishna 3ug 1& 2%1$ this is an interesting discussion.

/ight on re ,lliott Fave and the @7lummer wave.@ 6owever even though 5ann did state that time was the important factor yet it was his pinpoint price predictions that are truly awesome. or e!ample what time factor could be the reason he could state that a given stock would 4*+ trade a few ticks above where it was currently trading before it e!perienced a significant dropH 6as gann not said when time meets reversal is imminent. first he projected the price and then he used some calculation related to some harmonics. that technique is related to the second heading of the novel tunnel thru the air 'or looking back from 1C=%) 3lso didnKt he state that -eptember Fheat '1C%<) would hit a price of 12%....@if not it would prove his entire predictive system wrongJ Fhat time factor was behind his prediction. here he used physics and harmonic analysis. 'it is akin to waves formed after a stone is thrown on still pond having mathemtical relation.) Fhat many seem to ignore is that he also stated that when he accepted remuneration from clients to advise them on +6,/ trading he did not usually trade for himself. Fhy notH 3fter all if your studies indicate what a given market is going to do and you advise clients with specific recommendations why canKt you participate in that tradeH 6e has specialised in teaching and advising. he is getting more money in teaching and advising. he can do better research when he is not attached to the market and contribute more. and market depth also may be one of the reason. this is with my present knowledge and evidence i found in actual practice. 6umbly 8ours  

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novel tunnel thru the air and my analysis

 

krishna -ep 1 2%1$ /obert felt his heart jump right up in his throat after reading marie stantonKs reply to his love letter. 7age no 21 and 22

D,3/ /*B,/+  received your nice note. +his is the first time that anyone has ever written to me about love and  am all e!cited over it.

   

 never thought that you liked me Bobbie.  always thought that you were making eyes at itty 3nderson in school.  do like you and think that you are a nice boy. 8ours M3/,. Fhen /obert read the last line he felt his heart jump right up in his throat. 6is hopes and ambitions soared higher than they had ever before. 6e began to dream of the future with Marie as his wife.

+he words heart jump right up in his throat was repeated three times in the novel 7age nos 22 119 2=1. 4ow we see the things in a different way. f we divide 119 by 22 we get our &.2 our old &2 if we donKt mind the decimals. 3s we already dealt with &2 &2 days passed between -anfransisco earth quake 'on which date robertKs brother 6erbert died) and heroKs date of birth. 6alf of &.2 is our 2.91< again. f we divide 2=1 by 119 again we are at the number &2. +he above letter was first started in page number 21. 3t that time her age is 1$. Both are ibonacci numbers. f we divide 21 by 1$ we get our fibonacci ratio appro!imately again. *n 21 page 1.91< is coded. 3nd on 22 page 2.91< ratio is coded. f we multiply 1.91< with 2.91< we get or =2$ i.e. total number of printed pages other than cover pages. +6/*3+ E63/3 */ 0-6D63 E63/3. 5ann went to ndia and ,gypt' the word ,gypt came from -anskrit eeshaNpeetha meaning place of god and the name of the king is rama seshu'ramses) which is pure telugu name) learnt the secrets of vibration theories. 6is square of nine came from

our sayanmika sastra. +hroat chakra got 19 petals and triangle and circle. 3s throat is repeated three times we multiply 19 with three to get =<. on page no =< there is a reference of time to time which is an important concept and number. Marie continued to write him encouraging letters from time to time. +heir love affair continued smooth with no troubles or interruptions. /obert is the man of the hour +he words Yman of the hourK was used two times in the novel *n page number $29 and $:<. +he difference between the two is our &2. 5ann gave importance to &2 giving indelible mark to that number. Fhy  am repeating is the important points are not only in the ratios but also the numbers themselves if you are ready to investigate. #ust think of the page no $29 and divide that by &2 we get our ratio 9.2 fibonicci ratio. f we divide $:< by &2 we get :2. octave of :2 is 1== which is a square of 12 and and part of the circle i.e. 2.& times 1== is $9%. 3nd think of other associations with these numbers to unravel the mystery. +he number :2 got many other implications if we can embark on further investigation. 3nd on page number $:< there is a reference of eight years old giving reference of octave system of sarigamapadanisa or do to do octave. Fhich is the most important concept for his uncanny prediction of price before a precise date. *n the same page there is a reference of native referring about starting calculations from starting point in a veiled way. +he word dedicated used three times. 3part from dedication page he used that word YdedicatedK in page number 2C and $9. the difference between the two numbers is our seven which gann talked about gave importance in the introduction itself. f we go on divide and subdivide 2C by seven we get our &2 again. f we divide $9 by seven we get our &2 appro!imately. +he number &2 is pyramid angle half of which i.e. 2.91< is also in angle of gallery in the great pyramid at giAa. 3ny way we see &2 is not going away along with its derivatives. f we divide $9 by 2C and further divide and subdivide we get our old friend ibonacci 9.2 Fe escape this natural number. *kay now see where your navel point or nabhi sthan is place in the whole body. -ee five finger parts of the finger are three other than thumbs again ibonacci numbers.

7eriodic table of chemistry and markets 3s gann used harmonic musical octaves 7eriodic table of chemistry and mathematics theme and physics  feel it appropriate to quote a review of the book

seven elements by 4.bala subramaniam in hindu news paper to guide ourself in to holographic universe. ,very thing in the universe is related to each and are same at higher or lower levels.' 3 -wastika concept). 5ann used these concepts and predicted the markets. @+he periodic table of elements is iconic . it inspires scientists poets and rock musicians. Mendeleev created it by arranging known chemical elements in increasing order of their atomic weights' atomic numbers are used now) and in rows and columns in such a way that elements in the same column had similar properties. 3s a student of -anskrit  he may have been inspired by 7344 who arranged -anskrit letters in the same two"dimensional way to bring out their properties. MendleleevKs scheme so worked well that he turned a prophet and predicted < new elements each with a -anskrit prefi! and their properties. 3ll came true. 3t one time the table had only C% elements which are naturally occurring but now elements are being created in the laboratory and recently element 11C was reported starting a new row. @ mportant point to note 5ann has not used the fibonicci as our present analysts use them now. +hey are just hit and miss. Ehasing the maverick  was watching the movie @chasing the maverick@ in tv. +here are two lessons a student is taught by the master in the movie. irst lesson is about power of observation -econd lesson is that fear is good but panic is not. +his applies to ocean surfing and also to the market. @Fe all agree that your theory is craAy but is it craAy enoughH@" 4eil Bohr

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novel tunnel thru the air and my analysis  

krishna -ep $ 2%1$ sundar a octave numberT fibonicci
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3rticle> very good about whoKs buying this market murali krishna venkata puppala May : 2%1= Marie -tanton appeared in paris leaving a letter Falden pond and ganges ntegration of love and war themes in these page noWs $<% and 2=1 7age no $<% -upreme Eommander 5ordon had made up his mind that he would keep everything secret and not let the enemy know anything but he dispatched a message by radio to enemy headquarters reading> 0ery much disappointed. ost a good nightKs sleep last night waiting for your army to take 4ew 8ork Eitv. Fhen may we e!pect the pleasure of a visit from your planesH +his mysterious message was as much a mystery to the enemy as the letter that /obert found on the street in 7aris was to him. +he fleet sent out to attack Boston had never returned and no word had ever been heard of them. rance had been instructed by -upreme Eommander 5ordon to cease attacking and await further instructions. ,verything was quiet on the other side and 5ermany and ,ngland were awaiting reports of the success of the campaign of the nited -tates before making further attacks on rance. 7age no 2=1 -uddenly he saw a form approaching very closely and like a flash a woman quickly passed him. 6e was sure it was Marie. 6is heart was in his throat. 6e turned around quickly to follow her but she had disappeared. #ust as she passed him she dropped a letter on the street and he picked it up put it in his pocket and rushed on down. n the para given in $<% 'which itself is a fibonicci ratio) gann wants to integrate two opposite ideas of war and love. 6e remembered the letter of marie -tanton while he was in paris. 7resent is related to the past. 3ll highs and lows are related to past high or low as gann said. 3s gann is mostly about numbers e!act proportions musical octave system of sarigamapdanisa or do to do octave and mathematics physics and chemistry themes Fe spend much time on these subjects. 3s already discussed physics and chemistry are mastered by /obert hero in the novel and his friend walter each. 3nd heroine marie went to kidd"kay college which is a music school. +he message s very clear. 5ann used the subjects not related to market directly applying their principles in the market arena. or e!ample using periodic table of chemistry in market prediction is somewhat weird and unheard of. 4ow let us see how he integrated two different pages. 6e got a strange dream of meeting marie -tanton in paris on page no2=%. 6e met her on page no 2=1.which one to take as beginning point 2=% %r 2=1. gann gave more importance to beginning point.Eonception of the idea or actual realiAing it is the beginning pointH. +his question was also raised by 5eorge bayer in his novel U5eorge wollstenV. 4ow we take page 2=% and add $<%. +he number 2=% is related to part of the circle' gann dealt with part of the circles too) i.e. 1.& of 2=% is $9%. '1.& is

most important). Eircle is related to time. $<% is realted to fibonicci ratio. f we add both we get another number 92%. Fhich is again a fibonicci ratio. +he message is loud and clear time and prices related to each other and are to be calculated in the same way. Both are interchangeable. 3nd on the same page $<% gann used the word flower. +his is again a weird statement. 5ann chosen these words very carefully. +he fibonicci numbers are in flowers and every where in the universe. +he lord ganesha'the lord of numbers) is everywhere in the universe. 3s already cautioned  repeat gann used fibonicci 'shree durga numbers) in a completely weird way. +he present day analyst use them in a different way far from how gann used them. +hey are just hit and miss. 3ctually fibonicci numbers are not known widely in the west until r.n. ,lliot who has written secret of the universe book and finding ,lliott wave theory in the markets. 5ann used them even before r.n.elliot entered the trading arena. gann came to india and got hold of sayanamika sastra' sqare of nine) and fibonicci numbers and largely infliuenced by swami 0ivekananda.' the influence is seen in the novel) swamy vivekanada influenced most prominent scientists of the era. ike telsa. 5ann used some scientific principles of telsa who has been converted to 6induism. Falden and ganges 6enry david thoreu who is a great philosopher and writer lived in solitude at walden pond for two year two months and two days.i.e 29 months and two days. +ake it as a number it comes to 292. Fhen using numbers while studying gann never mind the decimals. -hift the decimals to fit. Eoming back to henry david thoreu  he was influcenced by great thoughts of hindus. +he point is how he used the numbers how they appear every where. 6e also talked of number &2 half of it is 29 nearer to 2.91< which is a fibonicci ratio.  wonder how he stayed there in cabin at walden pond. Fhat he ate. 6ow he passed time. n the morning  bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagvat"5eeta since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial? and  doubt if that philosophy is not to be referred to a previous state of e!istence so remote is its sublimity from our conceptions.  lay down the book and go to my well for water and loJ there  meet the servant of the Bramin priest of Brahma and 0ishnu and ndra who still sits in his temple on the 5anges reading the 0edas or dwells at the root of a tree with his crust and water jug.  meet his servant come to draw water for his master and our buckets as it were grate together in the same well. +he pure Falden water is mingled with the sacred water of the 5anges. *n riday 2 May 2%1= =>2= 3M *ak Eliff Eop Zjoef<21:Q...[ wrote>

0ery good and simple to understand article.   http>;;www.Aerohedge.com;news;2%1="%&"%1;greater"fool"rotation"whos"buying"and" whos"selling +rade Fell *EE

tunnel through the air "time limit of gann murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 11 2%1= 3fter receiving message from mr. kennelworth /obert felt that marie is glad to return to /obert. +hey could then be married and continue on to 4ew 8ork where he could take up his studies and complete the building of his airship as soon as he had made enough money to do so. 3fter disappearance of Marie -tanton in page no 11< this is first consolation message from mr.kennel worth. +his is on page no 1=%. 5ann is uncanny in his ability not only to trade but also in writing in this novel. 6e is not giving away the secrets of his trading on a platter. 6e sprinkled different concepts in the novel at different places of the novel. Many of the scientists still wonder about his uncanny predictions before a precise date. 6e used the secret of the principles of the universe. 4ow let us deal with this page number 1=% which is nearly third of =1< pages'total number of numbered pages other than introduction pages). n this page gann has given important clues of his prediction s. 3nother important clue is about number < on the same page 1=%. Mr. ennelworth told /obert that he would call him on the Kphone about < oWclock that night and let him know if any word had been received from Marie or if news was received sooner he would call immediately but at any rate would call at < oWclock. +his is a very important clue given by gann about how things work in the universe and markets in a veiled way 7rice of a stock price is predicted by gann before a specific date or at the specific date. -ee each word in the sentence. 6e is talking of time limit. Mr. kennel worth will call him before
that number 112% with =1< page'last page number) we get the number nearer to 2.91< which is fibonicci ratio. f we divide 112% with $9& 'number of days in a year) we get the number nearer $. 6alf of 1=% is :%. -hift the decimal to the left you get : which gann gave importance in the introduction itself. 4ever mind the decimals in gann methodology. : or :% or :%% are same family. Feird is it notH t seems that gann used number $ for confirmation and many other ways. 5ann said time and price are to be calculated in the same way. ,ven though many lodges all over the world are working towards deciphering the gann code but no body did like gann even remotely e!cept hauling about square of nine which gann taken from sayanmika sastra of india . 5ann predictions are basically about long pull market predictions in advance. +he main problem is we are not dealing with basic foundation on which gann worked. +his is what we are after.  believe  am able e!plain these basic foundation at least to a certain e!tent 3s  have already discussed gann used many concepts for this vibration theory as applied to market. -arigamapadanisa octave system physics chemistry' especially periodic table of chemistry) mathematics themes geometry proportions  numbers gravity centers neutral centers e!pired energy and many other concepts have gone into his calculations. Mostly gann followed the science of tesla 'whose ashes are in a museum he converted to 6induism with the influence of swamy vivekanada) and walter russel science. +he friend of the /obert the hero in the novel is walter

summary"issues with gann methodology  

krishnapvm *ct 19 2%1& as gann methodology is different i would like to point out the which is quite different from other analysis.

one major issue

as gann said he is not concerned with what price is now. he is only interested in where it will go. what ever happens in between. my observation. each high or low is related to some past high or low. that way point to point is linear each high or low is connected from past highs and lows. links for each high or lows past are not adjacent. they can be different. for e!ample today high is 1%% which may be related to past 1%% days back high or low. and other immediate high going back 1% days may be related to high of 1&% days back. if we observe charts each high is related to past highs or lows. linear point to point but not linear in time wise. important thing is time is known by price. as price and time are related each other

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7/3E+E3 ,- * 5344" 7/*0,4 murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 2= 2%1& abhay said 5ann was able to say an instrument will not cross a particular price point by a given time and would see a price far larger than ma! resistance point by a given date and he would also give a trend between the two dates. i believe he said what an instrument will touch before a precise date.

if there is any miscommunication or or any statement with lack of clarity that is because of my fault . and another thing i observed with gann is it is very difficult to e!plain gann. it needs lot of effort to e!plain each situation. my personal observation says he was continuously evolving. he retracted his own statements. at one time he said vibration works in all time frames. at another time he said longer term or weekly charts are better for prediction. i work with his long pull market prediction method /eady to correct my self  

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7/3E+ E3 ,- * 5344" 7/*0,4 L2 3ttachmentsR murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 2= 2%1& i have seen your attachments. the charts are wonderfull. even i use them grids and other things. i belive it is only a small fraction of what gann did. for e!ample gann used fibonicci even before street is aware of them. But the way gann used fibonicci is a far cry from what present day analysts use them. they are just hit and miss. the way he used fibonicci is weird. fibonicci he used in five different

ways.

his method works best with larger time frames. even though they work in all times frames. because of smaller waves interfere with each other and negative waves

and positives waves work at the same time.+hey appear to be not working. and it becomes difficult to segregate waves to see starting point. but larger waves are easy to work with as interference can less. +his is my present view

 

/eady to learn. +hanks 6umbly 8ours

 

krishnapvm

7/3E+E3 ,- * 5344" 7/*0,4 murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 2= 2%1& i worked with all time frames. when smaller time frames are linear and easy to work with. and as regards his sophisticated methods he has used sarigamapadanisa octave system. to predict. he finds sa and predict price before a date. for that we need to see whether opposite wave completes itKs move. otherwise waves cross. ' that is the i understood presently) that is the reason some times gann said he is not interested in what the price is now or in between but where it will go. if he has clarity of both negative and positive it is easy to time it. beginning point have an ending point.

each

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 7/3E+E3 ,- * 5344" 7/*0,4

 

krishnapvm *ct 2= 2%1& true each person has their own time frames in their mind. you have your objective i work with my objective of time frame and some time both may be right with different time frames and targets.

targets.

it happens. you may say it falls or go up i may say opposite of it. with gann both may be possible with different time frames. and as regards turning points they are called mass pressure times as gann said. they are easy. i used to give major mass pressure date for targets and also major events based on time factors. mass pressure dates are easy . but i dont trade them alone. i take them as one of the evidence

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Ean we run an opinion pole " what the market going to do in last week of *ctoberH murali krishna venkata puppala *ct 29 2%1& e!tending the same logic to options in mo i believe with this strategy of gann where he predicts at what price ma! resistance of time and price occurs it is better to go by probability. there are three probabilities. let us say equal probabilities of one third. up down and hovering around the same level. if we take near term option call selling.'only for hedging idea) there is a 2;$ probablity of making money. we get money if it goes or maintains at same level. ready to be corrected and ready to learn

 

not a trading advice. thanks 6umbly 8ours.

 

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7/3E+E3 ,- * 5344" 7/*0,4 murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov = 2%1& ivy wrote

0ery nice call....  see this turn is connected to the 12 #une 1& low... which also connected the 2= 3ugust 1& low....

 

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gann time is not lenear i have taken the clue of gann time from a clue from letter of einstein and dr. srinivas ramanujan and photo of lord vishnu in yoga nidhra on adhi sehsu and from lord indra making them pieces of his sibling into :T: pieces' who are born again and again) it is well know fact that gann taken many clues from india like sanyamika sastra for his square of nine. +hat influence is seen in the novel too. +hank

you for your contribution.

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murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov = 2%1& my observation on gann strategy of reversal. when there are many vibrations under work highest vibration should be taken as valid. smaller vibrations swept of by the bigger vibration or pushed. some times smaller vibration pushes higher vibration ' of time as gann said in the novel) ne!t resistance or make or break situation occurs around 9&% before it breakout. ready to learn 6umbly yours  

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cover page"swastika"higher and lower same  

krishnapvm #un = 2%19

i believve orignal cover page of gann novel tunnel thru the air got swastika symbol which means higher and lower are same. if lower is proved higher is proved. only proportion changes. +his symbol is widely respected in india. some people worship it

i obseve this higher is same as lower is

in

charts.

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cover page"swastika"higher and lower same

murali krishna venkata puppala #un = 2%19 dear abhay Fe learn by symbols from child hood. if gann wants to throw light thru symbols and other ways no problem in that. gann himself told the secret is hidden to be unravelled by studying his novel. i belive the secret is not that simple. i humbly say i still need to learn a lot from him. some body calls dr.ramanuja the man who knows infinity but gann is greatest one in that if i am not wrong. By opening my self to different view points i am learning from all. if that is simple please throw light on this simple if you can e!plain. this is my humble request. i am not able to do all aspects of gann.

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cover page"swastika"higher and lower same murali krishna venkata puppala #un : 2%19 though the vibration is easy to work with once you understood.' it has take lot of effort and years of study for for gann to understand vibration brutal work) most difficult part is starting point as gann said. more difficult part is in the statement there are smaller and bigger and lower  negative and positive. once

this

is understood after understanding gann it will be relatively easier.

vibration is musical octave system sarigamapadanisa this is my belief and and work at present i am ready to change and learn  

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5ann for beginners murali krishna venkata puppala #un 1$ 2%19 antistes h

it is a good point i am following this principle from the begining. But there is much to it than that is apparent. it is not just simple 1>1 for balancing. +his is good discussion. we are comming to the original philosophy or basis of gann work. it works perfectly when you know the starting point. the chart is after the fact. you cannot calculate from any where. it needs a starting point. +hat starting point is harmonic at the begining. and again there are many waves interefere like higher and lower bigger and smaller in relation both in time as well as price. to know about how gann projected price before a date we should know musical octave system sarigamapadanisa or do to do octave along with starting point which is bigger both in time as well price i call higher and lower bigger smaller which needs to be understood first to be perfect. in the chart it is done perfecctly because startin point was right. how did you choose that is important 6umbly 8ours  

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interchangeability of time and price krishnapvm #un 2& 2%19

+he more and more i am working with gann i am being spell bound by innemerable possible maths gann worked to get to the same figures or turning points. if we treat time and price are equal each time space and price points are treated as angles. they can be added divided and squred. and equaled 'need rebalancing and know the figures in the same family)

this is one of the clue gann has given in his literature. interchangeability of time and price.

Fith this cocept and proportions results are improving. +his is my work and belief at present

ready to learn and change

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interchangeability of time and price murali krishna venkata puppala #un 2& 2%19 i believe gann was not able to transfer his knowledge because of many weird ideas has gone into his methods. simply put one has to understand the subject and practice. My e!perience is it is very difficult to e!plain. but somewhat not difficult once you uundersood. t has taken hell lot of time and difficulties before i understand some thing. i believe i have learnt some thing out of his books.

/eady to change and adapt to new ideas 6umbly 8ours

 

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wave structure of gann methodology  

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whait we see on chart of each bottom and tops even every day bottoms and tops are points force having different beginnings in the past. day high may be related to 1% days back high or yesterday high may be related to 2%% days back.

it is like waves that appear on a still pond once disturned a stone. different people may throw stones. each wave have a begining of different times and having different forces. what we see as paterns consist of different energy points. it is like this many people sitting before still pont throw stones with different siAes from different places from from the pond with diffrent point. all these points interact with each and push the others.

smaller and bigger  higher and smaller  negative and smaller. it is some times difficult for gann to accurately predict reversal.

that is why he says it will not go about a particular level unless there is a breakout. if it dont resist it will have a breakout. it is mass pressure level may be.

i believe gann is best at predicting long pull market i am following long pull market recommendations +his is my belief at present.

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gann said when time meets price reversal is imminento murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 1$ 2%19 i will try to e!plain the idea behind the timest about price is equal to time always.

meets price it is not just

because some may not be tradeable though it may be correct. so many concepts involved in this time meets price concept. like prportion too i will be right back. now i am in the middle of traning programme i am giving

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gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 1$ 2%19 please watch it carefully there are two buttons visible on gann grid second button is related to fibonicci ratio from starting point. the target line is horiAontal line. second button is most crucial it is directly related to the target. price is equal to price. at second button place is related to time and price related concept low is conected to higher by a ratio of price as well as time and connected to the concept of time and price are to be calculated in the same way. little bit tied up still conducting training programme. i will be back after some time. 6umbly yours

 

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gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 1$ 2%19 from the first button calculate two square of time the stock turned at fibonicci. here time and price started at the same place.

Dear chuck you are right we can make out any thing from any chart. even all gann charts are same. all gann charts appear in the same way.

if we are able to get the meaning out of maAe of line we see the picture. still learning willing to learn and change my self for new ideas 6umbly 8ours  

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gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 1& 2%19 an idea to decipher when gann said time and price are to be calculated in the same way. 1) he used to trianles square and circles" triangle "total all angles equal" this is the one of the clue he gives to calculate time for a target. within this trianlge time and price interact. 2) vibratin moves to and fro. that means even though we have a begining point some times we need to to back to validate future" $) future points also validate past. so some times gann draws trendlines from future"looking back from 1C=% i will come back 6umbly 8ours  

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angular pitch  

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+he actual workinng of angular pitch is profound in its working.

 choose to refer gann words or some other time price analyst if any so that we can not drift from the main subject.

angular pitch is working as am testing this concept. future angle is related to past angle. once we have starting point to work with. this starting pint is validated with other methods of gann. 6umbly 8ours

 

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angular pitch murali krishna venkata puppala #ul 2= 2%19 just my thought this may be one of the clue gann is giving about projected curve of the inde!es and stocks. he used to group the stocks into different rate of vibrations and combine them to give projected curve of the inde!. as i am moving this angular pitch up and down future points are indicated up and down. -till i need to work and test a lot of this concept. 6umbly 8ours  

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components of vibration

 

krishnapvm 3ug 2 2%19 as already discussed vibration have different components. all components are to be seen in vibration. one of the component is time times and half. this clearly seen in the clue how the serepent curl on which lord vishnu one of the hindu trinity transcendtal sleep. serpents are well worshipped. hindu identify adi sheshu 'on which lord vishnu have yogic sleep) with time. kala sarpa. kala means time sarpa means serpent. every body learn by symols easily. +he great subject like spirituality has to be learnt only symbols to begin with. presently i cannot comment worshipping is good or not. learned sages shown us the symbols. like all concepts are twisted by each due to ignorance or to suit their needs. this happens every where.

many clues are there in those symbols. so called fibonicci numbers are not invented by fibonicci they are worhsipped in india. many of the construction are done with these numbers in mind. these called as lord ganesh numnbers or durga numbers; ganesha means lord of numbers. fibonicci or ganesh numbers are one of the component of vibration. this i e!plained in many articles which are published. 6umbly 8ours  

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cac"anaysis krishnapvm 3ug < 2%19 cac is formed triangle pattern from november last year. it has taken good time. this works like a coiled spring. it is at the wedge of breakout. once it breakout it will have power upward move. on the fist look i oberved this. i dint do deeper analysis of it 6umbly 8ours

 

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flowing vibration or vibration under constant state of flu!  

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vibration is may flowing what you believe it as starting point may be an ending point for some other starting point. this constant flow some times make it difficult to know ultimate mate bottom or top. we need to isolate a wave that start with higher vibration.

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time factor and price factor murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 19 2%19 gann gave importance to astrological mathematcs. he stress on that. he said mathematical astrologers are few. so astrology and mathematics coincice or one and the same if you know the law behind.

i am trying e!plain the concepts because of many variations. but unified by one law. e!plaing is difficult. one has to understand it by themselves. i am only talking of what i believe is the foundation of gann methodology. if you can show me how planets influence the stock i am ready to learn. i dont know that subject. vibration and astrology are one and the same may be /eady to change for new ideas 6umbly 8ours  

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time factor and price factor

murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 1: 2%19 if it is that easy gann would have transferred that knowledge atleast to his son or any body. until now there is no proof any body did like gann. including me. i am not claiming to be an e!pert. if you feel that i am an e!pert that is your problem. if you are not liking you can always remove the mail. it is for those who would like to take a meaning of it. proof of pudding is in eating it. i am getting results out of the methods i understood as gann methods. again i am repeating gann cannot be e!plained easily. but once understood it is easy to apply in majority of the case. i am not getting any thing out of this forum. gann was not able to e!plain. he told that . then how can you say gann can be e!plained. you got right to ignore. nothing comes on a platter. gann has not given that. i was on a tour to pushkar bath so i dint respond. some people may get the meaning get it into secret. that is what the wish of gann while writing that novel. why he dint tell the secret. know it because he was not able to transfer in entirety . partly we cannot be successfull 6umbly 8ours  

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time factor and price factor  

krishnapvm 3ug 1< 2%19 i use calender days for time count most of the time starting point of time and price are same. i need to calidate combined price and time cycles proved

consecutively

five times past to pedict turning point

humbly yours  

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issue with time factor 3*4,

 

krishnapvm 3ug 21 2%19

without taking price factor if we work with time factor there is a problem of stoploss triggering 'booking losses). for e!ample in the case of grasim if i act or take buy position in the monring on the turning date wthout taking price factor my positin should have been a loss 'loss booking due to stoploss). Because i considered time factor along with price factor i have waited for price factor to complete before taking positin. i dont know much of astro. i believe if astro consider only time it would have got the same problem. 6umbly 8ours  

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important clue

 

krishnapvm 3ug 22 2%19 page no $&= UMarie the 3ngel of MercyV ascended to a height of more than 2% miles and anchored the UMarieV in the air. +he new inventions were a perfect success and the machine could rise to any height and anchor and remain as long as it was desired and was absolutely invisible.

6e was now in position to construct a +unnel thru the 3ir from 4ew 8ork to ,urope and sail the UMarieV in safety thru it then rise to a height of 2% to &% miles over any of the cities anchor and start destruction page no $&&

 

+he -upreme Eommander had enlarged and improved upon the +unnel machine or vacuum until it could be made 2& to &% miles wide in any direction from a large city. 6e had also discovered how to send ships thru the air without an aviator directing them by radio rays which would enable them to distribute sleeping gas among the enemyWs lines and prevent loss of any of his valuable aviators

page no 2 Fhen /obert was a little over two years old his mother gave birth to a girl the first born to her but still she showed great interest in /obert? talked much of his future and took great interest in teaching him to live according to the Bible.

how many times the word anchor appear in the book and their page nos

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important clue  

krishnapvm 3ug 2$ 2%19 hi all vibratin is very vast and have many faces. astrology is part of it may be. i am getting results out of my theories based on gann methodology. i dont know how astrology gives a profit i have not seen any body personally making money. i dont know whether you made money trading market based on astrology. prediction is different from trading to a certain e!tent. as my knowldge i dint meet you. i am too busy to disturb any body. gann gives confidence trade based on maths. he said that . because i dont understand astrology i cannot say that is not correct. because i dont understand medical terminology i cannot say medicine is fault. this is what i am applying and getting results. all my recommendation are in the magaAines. it can be verified. the strike rate is more than C&G and average returns per year is 1%%G

because you dont understand the gann method as i understand it you cannot say gann vibration is wrong. truth has many sides you may be rights. vibrattion has many faces. there are many ways to reach the god or truth. like gita itself gave many which suits each person to reach the truth. i dont deny your knowledge is wrong. because i dont about astrololgy. i dont know any body who made money out of it. 6umbly 6umbly 8ours  

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important clue " +hara murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 2< 2%19 polaris . +here is a prominent story in one of the scriptures of hindus. that the moon takes away the polaris or tara from jupiter. big war ensued between planets. +his is a prominent story.  thought that there is some meaning in it for application for mundane affairs.t may be a veiled attempt of ancestors to tell some thing usefull about evenst that are going to occur.  asked some astro traders to look into any meaning in it long back.

important clue " +hara

murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 2< 2%19 tara"it is a hungry star. before forming into a star it was a like a golden egg. it is a manifestation of mother kali. it devours what ever comes within its range. pressure builds. it satisfies itKs hunger with combustion. after that it became a star. "hndu scriptures +his is how star is born according to hindu scripture. ancient people without modern technology know how the stars are born. modern scientis says neclear combustion is the cause of birth of the star. it is the cause of sound of om which you hear in sea shell. from your body when you close your ears witth your palms. other alphabets  speech poetry comes from ohm. 6umbly 8ours"krishnapvm

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+hanks dris. 5aru 704 +he only reference that  could found was for /ohini ' 3ldebaran ).. /e 7olaris 'Druv""[ meaning a!is ) no reference to #upiter though had read about 4arasimha ' half man;half lion "[ depicted as ape) and 7olaris in avatar 'vishnu evolution sequence "[ fish tortoise pig ape )..    

/egards -hashank

important clue " +hara

murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 2< 2%19 Most know the story of Ehandra or -om 'Moon) having seduced;abducted +ara 'also called /ohini by some) the wife of Brahaspati '#upiter). Ehandra also produced a son with +ara called Buddh 'Mercury). +he 5ods are supposed to have fought Ehandra to bring +ara back to her husband. t is said that -hiva had smashed Ehandra at that time and kept a part of the moon in his hair. humbly 8ours

important clue " +hara murali krishna venkata puppala 3ug 2< 2%19

tara was owned by -carlett *K6ara. 3nd was outside 3tlanta 5a -3. t was also home to 7rissy 'Butterfly Mc(ueen). ' @ donKt know nuffin about birfin babies@). -o how do  trade this +araH /egards #oe how gann did it how great predictors did it. these are the questions. as we dint find the answers we are here questioning. please participate in discussion. together we can find a solution if it is there. this forum is trying to find an answers. 6umbly 6umbly 8ours

 

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drawing trendline from future point.

 

krishnapvm 3ug $1 2%19 i believe that gann has drawn trendline from future. it is weird idea like anchoring from the air. but according to me drawing trendline from future is same as drawing trendline from the past point. it is in the idea that price and time are interchangeable. when we think of time meets price we work with past price action.But there is another possibility too now let us

think in a different way.

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what gann did

 

krishnapvm -ep 2 2%19 gann did the following he used to predict and trade all time frames in a given condition.

he used to predict e!act price where it will reach before a date or at a specific date'his projected curve) he predicted mass pressure date in advance. he used to trade e!act points of tops and bottoms in intraday. he can predict which price will not cross before it breaksout. he can predict both side of the market like it will go above particular level and after wards it will go down to a particular level. i respect there is a science called astrology. how astrology helps practially to trade. nobody proved the above aspects like gann did. he has done all time frames.

we need to ask teh right questions to get right answer.  am also

a beliver of astrology. but dont know the application of it

but how astrology helped the above aspects for gann.

it is not who is right or wrong. it is humbly to learn

important clue " +hara

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep $ 2%19 gann started the novel with lone star state of te!as. possible veiled attempt of gann to direct us to pole star or polaris.

7erhaps more than any star other than the -un? 7olaris has been regarded as the most important star in the heavens. t has been known by many names in the past? @the 7athway@ @the 7ointer@ " indicating the way? @4avel of the Forld@ @5ate of 6eaven@ @6ub of the Eosmos@ @the 6ighest 7eak of the Forld Mountain@ @odestar@ @the -teering -tar@ @the -hip -tar@ and -tella Maris @-tar of the -ea@.

important clue " +hara

murali krishna venkata puppala -ep = 2%19 quoting is necessary so that have a reference to discuss. i am quoting from wikipedia 7olaris designated 3lpha rsae Minoris 'a rsae Minoris abbreviated 3lpha Mi a Mi) commonly the 4orth -tar or 7ole -tar is the brightest star in the constellation of rsa Minor. t is very close to the north celestial pole making it the current northern pole star.

i try to quote from source when some thing needs to be discussed so that we cannot drift away from the subject i talk of gann so i quote. here i am talking of starts. the immediate available source for me is wiki gann talks on the first page north'pole star) as well as north east corner . =&

degree difference. there are other important numbers if you look. sanfransico earth quake occured &2 days before robert birth. and also about :2 days . the word sansfransisco earth quake repeated on :$ rd page. ':$"1). astro is a vast subject. vibration and astro may be one and the same. i am observing foot prints. you also says astro mathematics. mathematics is foot prints. i am observing. man may follow different astro principles. here itself many astro traders follow different methods even though planets are same. this is only my opinion stand to be corrected. i live on markets apart from giving recommendations which are published in the magaAines. +hank you reday to learn and change. 6umbly 8ours  

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debate"whether gann used astrology solely  

krishnapvm -ep 2= 2%19 mihai wrote  am curious about the connection between wave interferences and fibonnaci tKs the first time  hear about it.

+he best thing about fibonnaci which i am aware of late is that it doensKt matter what numbers you choose as starting points. itKs very funny indeed no need to start with 1 and 1 you can start with any number and the ratio of adjacent numbers will converge to phi anyway.@ ibonicci can be started any where as gann said vibration is under constant state of flu!. means vibration is flowing. as many fibonicci under workk simultaneously some even from far into the past. this interferenc of different fibonicci forces applied affect the waves. the learning point here is isolate the waves which are having less interference. for that present vibration in toto should work at all levels of the fibonicci. vibration has limbs all limbs inseperable from vibration. most of them start from same startinng points'this is the knowledge as i applied to the market as of now)

and also i try to see all limbs'limbs in know till now) other.

in tandem with each

this may help to know prjected price before a date. for turning points we see the complete wave with all its limbs in place 6umbly 8ours  

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debate"whether gann used astrology solely murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 2& 2%19 a wave that is bigger both in time as well as price is the important point to understand the future. vibration moves back and forward. and another point which need to be understood is triangle. think in terms of time and price inter changeability. if we want to know an angle of triangle if you know two angles you can decipher other angle. this is how we can draw trend line from future. 6umbly 8ours  

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debate"whether gann used astrology solely murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 2& 2%19 many members of the forum are silent on this subject. 8ou are all requested to contribute. we should be ready to win or loose if it enhances the knowledge further. ultimately we win along with knowledge i doubt the applicability of placing fibonicci arbitrarily. gann said vibration is contstant stateof flu! meaning what call of ending of wave may be begining point. this observed. +o know the turning point to trade we need to use powerfull wave with all limbs in place. 6umbly 8ours  

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debate"whether gann used astrology solely murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 29 2%19 whatever the planets do has to repliate higher level vibratoin. planets are in the hands highest level vibration. gal!ies maintain the same principles. our solar system is a small part. i wonder an ordinary fan gives a sound. how much sound a gala!y has to give while rotating with a speed of more than 1%%% miles per seconds. sage viswamithra called it as one which is above ohm. even einstein got a opnion on this.

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debate"whether gann used astrology solely murali krishna venkata puppala -ep 29 2%19 6ow would ,instein e!plain 5ayatri MantraH 5ayatri Mantra> 3 scientific view> 3m not great soul to write on all holy 5ayatri mantra but  strongly feel this mantra has lot of innate power to guide the seeker on spiritual path irrespective of religion caste or creed it has universal guidance. east 5ayatri mantra has been bestowed the greatest importance in 0edic dharma.+his mantra has also been termed as -avitri and 0ed"Mata the mother of the 0edas. +he literal meaning of the mantra has been cited in abundance. But there is little info available on its scientific importance one such review  heard from a noble soul. +he modern astrophysics and astronomy tell us that our 5ala!y called Milky Fay or 3kash"5anga contains appro!imately 1%%%%% million of stars.,ach star is like our sun having its own planet system. Fe know that the moon moves round the earth and the earth moves round the sun along with the moon. 3ll planets move round the sun. ,ach of the above bodies revolves round at its own a!is as well. *ur sun along with its family takes one round of the galactic centre in 22.&crore years. 3ll gala!ies including ours are moving at a terrific velocity of 2%%%% miles per second.

 

3nd now the scientific meaning of the mantra step by step> 5ear it2> 3dd style to your fitness regime 5ear it2> 3dd style to your fitness regime -amsung +he 3ll 4ew -*D3 -uperb " +est drive nowJ +he 3ll 4ew -*D3 -uperb " +est drive nowJ

 

-*D3 /ecommended By Eolombia '3) *m bhur bhuvah swah> Bhur the earth bhuvah the planets 'solar family) swah the 5ala!y. Fe observe that when an ordinary fan with a speed of C%% /7M 'rotations per minute) moves it makes noise. +hen one can imagine what great noise would be created when the gala!ies move with a speed of 2%%%% miles per second. +his is what this portion of the mantra e!plains that the sound produced due to the fast"moving earth planets and gala!ies is ]*mW. +he sound was said to be heard during meditation by /ishi 0ishvamitra who mentioned it to other hermits. 3ll of them then unanimously decided to call this sound *m the name of 5od because this sound is present in all the three periods of time hence it is permanent. +herefore it was the first ever revolutionary idea to identify formless 5od with a specific title 'form) called ]upadhiW. ntil that time everybody recogniAed 5od as formless and nobody was prepared to accept this new idea. n the 5ita also it is said @*miti ekaksharam brahma@ meaning that the name of the -upreme is *m which contains only one syllable '<;12). +his sound *m heard during samadhi was called by all the seers nada"brahma 'a very great noise) but not a noise that is normally at a specific amplitude and limits of decibels suited to human hearing. 6ence the rishis called this sound ]dgithW "musical sound of the above i.e. heaven. +hey also noticed that the infinite mass of gala!ies moving with a velocity of 2%%%% miles;second was generating a kinetic energy I 1;2 M02 and this was balancing the total energy consumption of the cosmos. 6ence they named it ]7ranavahW which means the body 'vapu) or store house of energy 'prana).

'B) +at savitur varenyam> +at that '5od) savitur the sun 'star) varenyam worthy of bowing or respect. *nce the form of a person along with the name is known to us we may locate that specific person.6ence the two titles 'upadhi) provide the solid ground to identify the formless 5od 0ishvamitra suggested. 6e told us that we could know 'realiAe) the unknowable formless 5od through the known factors viA. sound *m and light of -uns 'stars). 3n engineer can measure the width of a river even by standing at the river bank just by drawing a triangle. -o was the scientific method suggested by 0ishvamitra in the mantra in the ne!t portion as under>" 'E) Bhargo devasya dheemahi> Bhargo the light devasya of the deity dheemahi we should meditate. +he rishi instructs us to meditate upon the available form 'light of suns) to discover the formless Ereator '5od). 3lso he wants us to do japa of the word *m 'this is understood in the Mantra). +his is how the sage wants us to proceed but there is a great problem to realise it as the human mind is so shaky and restless that without the grace of the -upreme 'Brahma) it cannot be controlled. 6ence 0ishvamitra suggests the way to pray 6im as under> 'D) Dhiyo yo nah prachodayat> Dhiyo 'intellect) yo 'who) nah 'we all) prachodayat 'guide to right Direction). * 5odJ Deploy our intellect on the right path. ull scientific interpretation of the Mantra> +he earth 'bhur) the planets 'bhuvah) and the gala!ies'swah) are moving at a very great velocity the sound produced is *m 'the name of formless 5od.) +hat 5od'tat) who manifests 6imself in the form of light of suns'savitur) is worthy of respect 'varenyam). Fe alltherefore should meditate 'dheemahi) upon the light 'bhargo) of that deity 'devasya) and also chant the *m. May 6e 'yo) guide in right direction 'prachodayat) our 'nah) intellect dhiyo.-o we notice that the important points hinted in the mantra are>"

1) +he total kinetic energy generated by the movement gala!ies acts as an umbrella and balances the total energy consumption of the cosmos. 6ence it was named as the 7ranavah 'body of energy). +his is equal to 1;2 mv2 'Mass of gala!ies ! velocity2). 2) /ealising the great importance of the syllable *M the other later religions adopted this word with a slight change in accent viA. amen and 3meen. $)+he 5od could be realised through the saguna 'gross) upasana 'method) i.e. a) by chanting the name of the supreme as *M and b) by meditating upon the light emitted by stars 'suns). +his form of worship i.e. worshiping the cosmic sound and light doesnWt confine to a sect or religion. More over the cosmic sound and light are generated by none other than the supreme ord.ufr

6umbly 8ours  

krishnapvm

some practical issues with gann methodology  

krishnapvm 4ov 2& 2%19 vibration under constant state of flu!

as the vibration is under continuous flow one has to be carefull in trading as some vibrations though work are not practical to get profit. because afer small resisstance or support it will be broken without giving profits. so we need to alienate the vibration which works with good profits. +o know that one has to look stageurs of vibration and whether any immediate target is near by in both time and price.

as regards interference some remote vibrations also may distort the picture. one has to work with vibrations without interference and clear moement not clustered.

w.d.gann has to go back and verify the starting point.

6umbly 8ours

 

krishnapvm

one of many articles published"my analysis of the nove.

 

krishnapvm 4ov 2C 2%19

My analysis of the novel tunnel thru the air written by greatest trader and predictor w.d. gann.

/obert is unusually happy on page 2:9 although three years have passed after marieWs disappearance  came to badrachalam '3ndhra pradesh state in india) travelling appro!imately 1$< kilometers on some professional work Fhen  searched my mail 1$< mails are waiting to be seen. Many times this 1$< is appearing in life and markets. 7ush it off it is not going away. *k now gann enthusiasts we go to page no &2 where there is a reference of no :2 if we devide :2 by page no &2 you get 1$< 'never mind the decimals)

 

7age no 1$: +he ne!t time that he remembered anything he awoke on Monday morning with the sun streaming in thru the window of his hotel and realiAed that he had fallen asleep. +he little book U7oems +hat 6ave 6elped MeV

+he words sun streaming thru the window was repeated after the first page which seems to be a beginning point . if we add one to 1$: we get 1$< there /obert enquired about any telegram or long distance call about marieWs disappearance. 7age no 2:9 which is an octave of page no 1$< where reference of topic of communication about missing marie occurred. 7age no 2:9  4 the all of 1C2C /obert and Falter made a large amount of money in cotton and wheat. /obert was unusually happy. 3lthough over three years had passed without any direct news of Marie he was sure she was alive? felt that the time was not long to wai tbefore she would reappear. t seems that octave of 1$< which is 2:9 is a confirmation of future event.' do take them into my calculations some times)

-B 9.1<.92> 3fter entering DitiKs womb ndra with the help of his thunderbolt cut into seven pieces her embryo which appeared like glowing gold. n seven places seven different living beings began crying. ndra told them @Do not cry@ and then he cut each of them into seven pieces again. -B 9.1<.9$> * ing being very much aggrieved they pleaded to ndra with folded hands saying @Dear ndra we are the Maruts your brothers. Fhy are you trying to kill usH@

-B 9.1<.9=> Fhen ndra saw that actually they were his devoted followers he said to them> f you are all my brothers you have nothing more to fear from me. f we further enquire about 1$< we come to the knowledge that it is number related to fibonicci ratio. -B 1.9.1:> * 0yasadeva at that time being e!ceedingly overpowered by feelings of happiness every part of my body became separately enlivened. Being absorbed in an ocean of ecstasy  could not see both myself and the ord. -B 1.9.1<> +he transcendental form of the ord as it is satisfies the mindKs desire and at once erases all mental incongruities. pon losing that form  suddenly got up being perturbed as is usual when one loses that which is desirable.

f we add 1$< to 192 which is another fibonicci ratio we get three'never mind the decimals) which gann given importance to. f we add 1$< to 292 we get four. our is a square in gann parlance +o further enquire about 1.91< if we square that we get 2.91< which is also a fibonicci ratios. f we further multiply that with 1.91<'1.91
-B 1.$.<> n the millennium of the rHsHis the 7ersonality of 5odhead accepted the third empowered incarnation in the form of DevarsHi 4arada who is a great sage among the demigods. 6e collected e!positions of the 0edas which deal with devotional service and which inspire nonfruitive action. +he themes includes chemistry physics and mathematics and music. 6e was more influenced by the scientific community of that time and incorporated their science into his trading. +hose scientists of prominence were more influenced by 6induism by swami 0ivekananda. +his influence is seen in the writings of gann in the novel. 5ann is uncanny in his ability to predict the market movement one year in advance. 5ann is uncanny not a phony 3nd  am hungry

'5oing to relish dinner in the sri kalki hotel in badrachalam.) 3fter  finished my chores in badrachalam  went to the temple which is just a kilometer away from my stay. 6umbly 8ours  

krishnapvm

   

clarification krishnapvm 4ov 2C 2%19

tekanlko wrote +hey are perfect calls and good charts  the problem is that looking at them leads the casual observer nowhere

any worthwile study is not for causual observer. t is for deep students of gann. it requires brutal hard work.

abhay wrote 5ann was calling these trades = months or 9 months in advance not 1 hour or few hours before obviously my technical patterns will always show where the support and resistance points are for aa timeframe within 1hr or few hours^

+hat is the easiest one what it can probably do in future as regards price. that is just resistance points. future level i gave many. +hat is part of long pull market prediction which i was doing for indian readers of a magaAine. the level whch i predict can act as attractive points and also repulsive points. /esistance points or support points can be done in advance. they should be profitablle trades.

this i can give months in advance. many many can be given daily. future

level predictions are given are acurrate before a period.

which gave more than C&G successfull calls with C
resistance and support points can be given in advance. giving just before the event is better. as i can corrobarte evidence with other tools of gann to see whether they can give good profits. some time the predictoins happens without giving profits. that aspects need to be taken care. that needs actual happening mathematics at that time.

t is proved beyond doubt gann has not used astrology in his own words.

see previous posts on debate.

gann used fibonicci in a completely different way. preseent use of fib by analyst is far from how gann used them.

but i see planets follow fibonicciso there may tally with astro some time.

be coincidence the work of gann

gann used many concepts as regards time and price.

+raining classes on  will come back after some time.

6umbly 8ours

 

krishapvm

 

 

clarification

krishnapvm 4ov 2C 2%19 /espected by abhay. 7/** * 7DD45 - 4 ,3+45 +.

f i give resistance points short atlest on paper. whether you are getting three times your stoplosses. if your method work that is good for you. i am not saying i am correct 1%%G times. ,ven gann was not. rrespctive of methods whther gann or some thing else trading should be done wiht proper money mangement. dont invest more than 1G of your trading capital on a single commitment. f it gives three times of the risk and with more than <%G success rate it is good. have a method and try. try that way whether it gives profit or not. f it dont suit

your risk apetite leave it.

se your own method to get profit. every body have their favourite methods and techniques my favourite method i am following. 6umbly 8ours

 

krishnapvm

7roving 0alidity of Eoncept

murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov $% 2%19 traders life cycle first stage. we come to the market without knowledge. we loose. second stage> fear based trading again we loose out of fear we get less when we gain and loose more out of fear ot book losses without stoplosses third stage> searching for the holdy graily. looking for 1%%G success rate. it will not happen children goes from diapers to funny papers to college. no body can find they stop again start with first stage. few people comes to fourth stage. searching for <%G success rate with good risk reward ratio'1>$)  

krishnapvm

Fhat Fd.5ann didH how and what he forecastedH...

 

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 2 2%19 teknalko

i agree with your views e!cept small issue the entity that guided him may be the nature itself. when his nature coincide with nature. this power will not come to laAy or who are closed to new ideas. gann is not difficult but it is different. that kind of knowledge we are not taught in school. +o present level of knowldge that may be weird. ke 1%% 1%%% 1%%%%%% are %.%1 is same. not only family of numbers are different. there limits to the universal e!pansion and contraction from a standpoint. this is what einstein written in the last letter to the scientific community. he has not seen certain times of a number in the same family. this is true in periodic table of chemistry. he talks of limits. But dr. ramanuja speak of creating principle is assocaited with &;=.  think he has drawn the conclusion from shree yantra also five triangles one side and four on the others.

6e said he gets calculations from goddess of namakkal. 5oddess is nature. 4ature guided him 4auture guides in a systematic order. +his is what i felt myself. +his order cannot be taught directly i beleive at present. 5ann also worked with first with one principle then discarded that for higher order. i give my view why he refered to wirelesss telegraphy. i say that your view is correct. let me e!pand. cause and effect are seen in telegraph. cause happens here resuls are seen some where in the future. 7eculiarity of vibration is cause becomes effect further effect becomes the cause for the effect of higher order. creating musical octave system. doubling of vibrations. 6e used to search for the casuse for present action or future action going back to even 2% years or so. some cause can appear near by. some in remotes. for appearance each cause has its own ending. but all cause connected to higher vibration. 3t present i work with few causes at a time. where there is no interference of higer cause the effect is seen for good trading. +his is some times difficult to alienate the cause which dont have interference. though appear to interfere they follwo higher order of cause. But for us as traders we like to trade good for good profits. for e!ample i say a resistance a points. it will acf as resistnce for lesser period. immediately higher cause take it forward gives much higher targets. this phenomenon cannot be e!plained easily. it wil be confusing if any body try e!plain some people. that is why gann said people are not ready to accept. ready people like you get the message. 6e even did not teach his son who plays with paper rockets' i read some where) knowing futility of e!ercise. every body has comfort Aone. +hey dont want to come out of it.  read in a book. *ne man discloses some principles of like. some people like them. +he cult is created followers follow them as afterall they are followerrs. +he main person changes over a period. he cannot tell the followers his original thgous have flaws. by that time followers cannot accept the idea they followed a principles which have flaws as they have devoted much of their life flawed principles. 4ow the leader is led. he is no more a leader. now followers kill themselves or kill the leader if leader teaches them. this is happening when we dont accept new ideas. we are froAen without development. first we start with the question what gann did what gone forecasted. we validate all our work with it. he used to givne specific levels. if we cannot do that we cannot say we follow gann. astrology may be a different subject. for that speficially other fourm of timepriceresearch is there. true traditinal astrology is not what he followed. i follow earh movement for natural cycle. i read armstrong. i like his theories; 6is theories coincide with gann like no 22=. +he question is whether we dare to validate with what gann did. 4o one is 1%%G correct. gann was not and i am not. gann or any other trading method should be with money management.

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regards

 

krishnapvm

Fhat Fd.5ann didH how and what heforecastedH...

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec $ 2%19 true mihai we need to enter a spiritual realm to connect to the higher source. +hat is a state where  concoiusness merge in to higher conciousnes. this state of mahat e!istence knowldge and blissh sat chit ananda state. depending on the stage we get the higher and higher consciousness. sage by stage development.  

krisnapvm

Fhat Fd.5ann didH how and what he ...

   

krishnapvm Dec $ 2%19 abhay he is simply seeing past cycles to repeat. as gann said he only has to see which cycle si repeting now.

if small cylces conicide wiht past cycles with good correlation he is projecting . some time we need to go back many years back. using a formula to go back and correlation you too can do. gann said nothing new under the sun. past cycles repeat some time inverse.  

krishna

Fhere are the original students of gann classesH murali krishna venkata puppala Dec = 2%19 gann knowledge is not a class room subject. passing e!am and practicing. step by step we need to raise conciousness. +hough 5ann tried to transfer the knowledge knowing fully well that few raise their level of consiousness to understand. he understand that every body learnt from their own pace. objective of his teaching class may be to transfer atleast to some body who deserve. this message is very clear by novel tunnel thru the air by way of marieKs letter.

 

] will come to you when  mean the most and your need for love is the greatest. /obert was concentrating more of comming war and nation and his contribution. 6e was discussing with marie those things.

,very body learnt at their pace and level of consciousness.when some body talks about gann or some literatrue appears i dont try to go deepinto e!cept peripheral reading.i leave to my free mind to understand it. when time comes it occurs to me as a flash.'connecting to the source) this is the e!perience of any who desire to find a solution to any thing in life or   professioin. they leave it to their mind to work on it.

 

quote

*ne great lesson i learned from my life.+her is no market for your emotions so never advertise your feelings just show your attitude. ,ven in ths life they conqured the relative e!istence'moksha) whose mind is firm fi!ed on the sameness of every thing'seeing the god every wehre) for god is pure and same to all such are said to be living in god. bhagavat gita  

krishna

-omething that 5ann said

 

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec = 2%19 #6M

8our observation may be related to gann statement that each stock follows a rate of vibration. 6e has given per day vibration like one dollar or fraction per some instruments in some of his stud material. he used to group the stocks according to their rate of vibration +his may help him to know which group of stocks are due for correction or rise.

8ou are highlihting an important observation. after grouping the stocks to the units. he may associate that with other properties of geometry to know the ending of the waves. so according to your observatioin even inde!es folllow the same principle of rate of vibration.  

krishna

 

 

impulse

krishnapvm Dec 1< 2%19

Fe submit this in full recognition of the fact that in Fall -treet a man with a new idea an idea which violates the traditions and encourages a scientific view of the 7roposition is not usually welcomed by the majority for the reason that he stimulates thought and research. +hese activities the said majority abhors.

-cience teaches that ]an original impulse of any kind finally resolves itself into a periodic or rhythmical motion? also just as the pendulum returns again in its swing just as the moon returns in its orbit just as the advancing year over brings the rose of spring so do the properties of the elements periodically recur as the weight of the atoms rises.V

+his i believe to be the clue for predicting the stock before a specific date.

he found the oriignal impulse and found itKs periodic or rhuthemicl motions to predict the price before a date.

original impulse is related to target in a mathematial way.

 

krishnapvm

 

impulse

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 1C 2%19 there are innumerable impulse working simultaneously. each impulse have their target. there are minor major smaller bigger lower and higher negative and positive impulses working   simultaneously. with in bigger impulses smaller impulses may appear. that is not simply lilnear points connected serially. though they appear to be trending points of results of impulses. the trendng nature may be because of ultimate beginning points with two seperate wave negative and positive. so a beging point of an impulse is connected with the target. so it is point to point interaction. when we dial a phone it is connected to remote place. my phone may reach a particular number. other calls go to other numbers. a beginning point is validated by further action in its. once validated ne!t higher level target based on lower impulse can be predicted. smaller imupulses give target for higher .this total first impulse and target become bigger impulse for higher target. that is each target and its beginning points give way to higher ones. +he point of discussion is not about time cycles alone. how the impulses gann was referring to predicting price before a date. let us align ourselves about basic question. how this impulse theory predicts price before a date as gann did. #ust like gann did.  

 

krishanpvm

impulse

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 1C 2%19 good antiste 8our theory is predicting like gannH price before a dateH

impulses are seen in prices. gann said time is known only by the price actioin. means it is price swiings and the difference between the price swings define time. not the other way round. we can discuss to prove or disprove. whether the impulse issue given in ticker can direct towards price before a date. we can debate to prove or disprove the issue.  

krishna

5344 =& angle views

murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 2: 2%19 my views and work with =& degree angle. as price e!actly cannot move at =& degree angle we need to see the stopenders. three things are involved in this starting point with a proper rate of vibration connecting particular stopender. once this is done target is fi!ed which is an ending point for that force which is just an estension of line from starting point to partiular stopender which moves with a proper rate of vibration. if we read his interew it is he divided the stock according to rate of vibration. he grouped them accoridngly. this is an ideal situation. some other angles also work equally. +his is only partial view of this concept.  

krishnapvm

Fhat Fd.5ann didH how and what he forecastedH Debate murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 2: 2%19 first let us deal with first question. what gann did 1)gann did give precise price which will not cross. 2) price that are going to be touched before a specific date. $) he gave projected curve in advance. =) where price of stock will be on a particular day.

 

krishnapvm

5344 =& angle views murali krishna venkata puppala Dec 2C 2%19 i feel happy that we are discussing the subject of vibration with referecne to the gann work. vibration is comple! while applying to the market movement. it needs lot of e!planations of different variations. =& degree is one angle out of many angle. but =& degree angle better to be defined first before attempting other angle. this is the base angle as i understand and work. +here are many concepts involved in vibration. all concepts has to be understood. if we deal with only one concept it will be a dangerous situation. one has to jorney followiing the clues given by gann and internalising the things. one can also learn from different contributions from the group members to understand gann. some who are in the advanced journey might understand new information and associate with gann methodology. it depends on where we are in the journey. it is difficult terrain and most pain yet times. adding the rules and testing them. with aha e!perience every time. and again adding other aspects of gann with another aha e!perience. more we are learing the all aspects of vibration we are increasting the probability of success. gann was a learner through out his life 'as per his writings) he used to go back to test why it failed yet times. innumerable possibilities is test for him in the begining for him. some clue is given about =& degree angle referring about robertKs sisterKs birth. i will try to write more on this soon  

krishnapvm

by gann in the novel when he was

tops and bottoms and swings"reg  

krishnapvm #an 2 gann said all swiings are cyclical. they repeat. highs are related to past 656 */ *F.

 

krishnapvm

according to scriptures there are 1=% elements related to our body elements earth 1%< water < fire < air < akash < total 1=% other than earth elements are $2 elements which is related to our teeth and 2 to the power of &. 1%< no is is earth related to mooladhar chakra of the body. creation. U+he first centre is called the Mooladhara centre. t has four petals 'sub" ple!uses) is placed below the triangular bone and is responsible on the physical level of the manifestation of the pelvic ple!us which looks after all our e!cretion inclusive of se! activity. Fhen the undalini rises then this centre becomes inactive in the e!cretion functions but active in the support of the rising of the undalini. +hough the undalini has to rise through si! centres the first centre of Mooladhara Ehakra protects the purity of chastity of the undalini at the time of its awakening.V 1%< is some how related to circle of earth adn sun with slight difference earth 12:&9 sun 1$C2%% 1$C2%%;12:&9I1%C.12& small difference is due to vibration itself under vibration this is my view

five and eight are important part of gann. they are main componens of vibration. this is &;< of 22= bhuanas of goddess. i agree he has taken clues from elements. but present found elements are not complete. gann has gone above it.

please search how many times the word new year is repeated and in which pages in the tunnel thru the air novel.

stocks are grouped according to their rate of vibration murali krishna venkata puppala #an 1: i dont think sectors have vibration similar to each other.thin within the same sectors stocks diverge. may be some thing related to starting point. as it is rate of vibration. some thing should be fi!ed to compare with. i am thinking of the distance between one octave to another octave. and again once vibration is found for a stock. it may not be the same number to group similar stocks that vibrate. it may be double or half or simply square or square root of the number you found on a stock. doubling or halving and further double and halving and squaring and square root or re square root are the same family. this is my idea. but one thing is what is the purpose of it. as he said he will know which group of stocks will move upward or down as group.  

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Debate"what is a reactionH

murali krishna venkata puppala #an 1C all the highs and lows that appear at any moment may not be related to immediate previous high or low. means they are not lenear. but they sometimes appear to be lenear because they follow the cycles of beginning point for each move separate. each point may have a separate beginnig poinnt  

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krishnapvm #an 2C @4o matter how you stretch or distort a chart along the y or ! a!is the time factor will remain the same.K both time and are to be calculated in the same way. the concept of balancing of time and price is due deviation from each other. they need to get balanced. this concept balancing we discuss with reference to original statements of gann. this may throw some light.  

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murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 2% 2%%< the purpose of squaring time with price is to know where time meets price. as gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent. this can be done by knowing the past swing points and the present price we can know whether time meets price. as gann said past repeats. these turning points can be predicted one years in advance as gann did. this is possible by knowing two tunring points and factor of time. this factor of time related squaring. come back soon with more details. this is important subject. many concepts to be known before applying it. once known it is as easy as eating a cake. thanks for giving opportunity to discuss.this can be evidence by my previous prediction of mine through gann knowledge. thanks to gann and natural forces.

 

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murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 2$ 2%%< dear bob davis what you said is right grid per inch is important. but in the modern computer world if we know the time and price unit is known that is enough. angles are

important. but mostly can be used for trend determination. just to repeat my old discussion. the important point is knowing two similar event in different times and balancing them. just to put it in a different way you like a sweet. when did you eat that sweet in two different times in the past. that is the first step in the whole analysis. time element is not fi!ed. it depends on these two similar events and third one is balancing point. the subject weird and subtle. but once known it is easy. i use half life principles in chemistry to determine the e!act price that it is going touch before a specific date. but as regards turning points i take two different swing points and project the turning date. as regards my prediction of turning points and prediction of price before a date. already given in different forums. this is not a forum for who can predict best. it is a learning site. but still for the sake of proving the greatness of gann work predictions are given in various forum only to prove gann is real. krishnapvm

+++3 question or asking for help murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1: 2%19 very very interesting and usefull conversation goig on. i would like to talk on each observation and how i used some of the concetps. i am not converstant in astrology. but i believe in it as part of higher order. presently i can throw some different clue to astrology. vibration should be validated with proof. so take starting point after proof of the starting point is established. i try to establish the starting point seeing the fractal nature at lower level. this clue i believe in the following statement on page no 2 see the two here. Fhen /obert was a little over two years old his mother gave birth to a girl the first born to her but still she showed great interest in /obert? talked much of his future and took great interest in teaching him to live according to the Bible. you can take the

position from the two years after the date of birth.

again i telling i am not conversant with astrol. i use this concept ' which i use the number 2) as a part of vibratioin. you may find somethihng of value of this date  

regards 6umbly 8ours.

 

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murali krishna venkata puppala 4ov 1< 2%19 mihai wrote after meeting multiple girls with these energies i can understand why her mother shifted her focus on robert >)))

i was not able to follow your statement. actually two become one at higher level. yes this is related pythagaras music. this one whch is two at different level is having sub components of octave. get the clue from pythagaras music. recently i read on the net around sun there is octaves at work.  am only writing what i work with from so many years with much much more than average results.+hanks to w.d gann for all his works. mihai as regards my english while i am writng on the timeprice forum i am little bit fast not minding grammar or spelling. may be working with wordless state of mind*)  

regards. 6umbly 8ours

 

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4ov 1< 2%19 respected jhm. i am trying to e!plain what gann did. 5ann did the same. most of the time he gave resistance levels without giving when to buy. you can say the same thing to gann. @n 1C%< when the nion 7acific was 19<"1;< he told me it would not touch 19C before it had a good break. Fe sold it short all the way down to 1&2"&;< covering on the weak spots and putting it out again on the rallies securing twenty"three points profit out of an eighteen"point market wave.@  @+his steel will run up to &< but it will not sell at &C. rom there it should

break 19 points.@ Fe sold it short around &< with a stop at &C. +he highest it went was &<. rom there it declined to =1"1: points.@ @Fhen nion 7acific was 1:2 he said it would go to 1<=":;< but not an eighth higher until it had a good break. t went to 1<=":;< and came back from there eight or nine times. Fe sold it short repeatedly with a stop at 1<& and were never caught. t eventually came back to 1:.@

 3s regards physics of life gann got clues from natural numbers and and learnt from natural laws. as per his interview he followed natural laws. you can be critical of 5ann too. we are here to study 5ann and his methodology i donKt ask your trading record which is between you and your ta! have e!pressed many times you donKt have balance in your trading account. based on this i doubt at all. or a continuous looser.or just spending time criticiAing sarcastic and racial remarks 'once you commented two asians any your comments will tell you that your remarks are racial)

authorities. you you are a trader others with body who knows

better to follow a tradition of debating only to learn more. in the process whether we win or loose our endeavour is to learn more. you should be

better contributor before you criticiAe others.

you wrote +hereKs one guy who posts regularly on when resistance points ought to be hit. s he a trader or a thought technician. f a trader when did you enter""and when did you e!it H  have a hard time with people that warn against an upward move""or that can only talk about tops. why you should have hard time. that is your problem not others. you can ignore posts if you are a real trader you should have tested the calls like

your e!pectation

for e!ample you want to earn 1% percent on each call with test it with your risk level. whether are earning three times the stop loss. for e!ample you bought at 1%% stop loss at C& see that whether you get 11& while selling. 1>$ risk reward ratio. you are going to loose 1%G on capital if you loose 1% times. if you are successful &%G of time also you win try this. let us say you loose 1%%% dolars when you loose and get $%%% dollars when you win. -ay you made hundred calls. Make a chart of C%G success and 1%G losses and also possibilities till =% success and 9% failures with 1>$ risk reward ratio means 1%%% >$%%% . DonKt risk more than 1G of your trading capital on single commitment 'gann method of money management) 8our stop loss amount should be less than or equal to 1G of your trading capital or invest in out of the money calls options and see how much you are getting. how much you e!pect to get.