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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:47:00 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: asio on 1/11/01 2:56 PM, Heinrich H. Vogel at [email protected] wrote: > James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might > re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in > earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .

That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it directly with 3.0. Mary Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:55:28 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: asio shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:06:53 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: asio What time warp band are you leaving in? polarization?

Seriously, why create

BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. Mary Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:21:55 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re: asio eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > >

shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > >

i strongly advise you to reinstall a brandnew system after having completely erased any of your data , because your computer is actually sending out messages that offend my late night peace .

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sorry hairi Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:25:27 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: asio > BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. > that makes it better! > Mary > > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:53:33 +0300 From: Katharine Neil Subject: RE: asio shit, an offensive 14 yr old boy on the sc list!!! let's set fire to his genitals... I wouldn't wear that sense of humour out in public, boy. Some mailing list advice for you: When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line. When it's revolting, offensive sexist or racist 'humour', hit the 'delete' button in your mail client, then go away and have a think about it. shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:07:26 +0300 From: "Thomas Miley" Subject: Re: asio I hope so also, because the latencies or inefficiencies using an AMIII card at 2.10 make it almost worthless (i.e. audio glitches at only ~ 20% cpu) =tm= - ----- From: Mary Original Message ----Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: Re: asio















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That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it directly with 3.0. Mary

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:09:45 +0300 From: "Thomas Miley" Subject: Re: asio eric, you are an idiot... - ----- From: eric_hard_jams Original Message ----Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: asio > > > > > > > > >

> BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers. > that makes it better! > Mary > >

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:13:42 +0300 From: "Scott Wilson" Subject: Re: asio - ----- From: "eric_hard_jams" Original Message ----Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: asio > shit a girl on the sc list!!!! > lets rape her... > > Mary Hey eric_flaccid_jams! Would you print out this crap and mail it to each of us in a letter? Would you say it when speaking to a large number of people, many of whom you don't















Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:39:00 +0300 From: "Robert S. Newcomb" Subject: Re: asio I reported the same problem, perhaps a week before Paul did, but I did not install ASIO drivers. This must be something very simple, yes? I have been able to, contrary to SC's display info, at least have SC2 use AMIII for output, but have yet to get it to see the card for input. This situation occurs under OS9.0.4 on a Mac G4/Dual 450 AND a 7300/200. On an 8500/132 under OS8.1 I had no problems. Is OS9 the problem? On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Paul Lansky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Date: Thu Jan 11 13:58:53 2001 From: Paul Lansky Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: asio Hi A few weeks ago a queried the group about why I was having trouble getting SC to recognize digidesign hardware after I had loaded the proper driver in the ASIO folder. Well, I tried everything that you all suggested.

Thanks!

But, sadly, still no go. My latest diagnosis is that the driver is not for the hardware we have, which is the Pro 24. Does anyone have any insights here? thanks paul lansky

Robert S. Newcomb Director of Information Technology, School of Music http://www.umich.edu/~rnewcomb/ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:06:28 +0300 From: Katharine Norman Subject: Re: asio >shit a girl on the sc list!!!! >lets rape her... >















London SE14 6NW (0)20 7919 7640 (music dept office) fax (0)20 7919 7644 email: [email protected] http://www.novamara.demon.co.uk/ http://musicinfo.gold.ac.uk/music/staff/norman.html would you like to join the EMS mailing list? email [email protected] ***** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:11:15 +0300 From: Andrei Subject: how to subscribe ? I forget, how does one subscribe/unsubscribe to/from this list ? Andrei Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:08:11 +0300 From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: asio >James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might >re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in >earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions . - -It would be nice if James re-installed all the drivers he had previously written himself for the Korg 1212, Motu 2048 end Sonorus I/O. And make it an option to use his drivers for these cards or asio. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ^ Arie van Schutterhoef | [email protected] ^_�� __""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ` |Schreck Ensemble http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ http://www.xs4al l.nl/~schreck/ ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # ` |Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268

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*========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:20:29 +0300 From: "David B. Gunn" Subject: Re: asio not funny...















On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > > > > >

shit a girl on the sc list!!!! lets rape her... > Mary > > >

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:48:06 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: just try to ignore eric... it seems there's a "bug" on the list. after receiving a few obnoxious messages from eric_hard(?)_jams (enough is enough), i managed to fix the problem by simply adding a new rule to my copy of outlook express: if [from]-[contains]-[eric_hard_jams]-[move message]-[deleted items] it's painless and works fine. [strongly suggested to people who don't like stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!]. first and LAST message on this particular subject. - -- c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s =========================== e [email protected] :( =========================== Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:57:40 +0300 From: "Heinrich H. Vogel" Subject: Re:[ot] asio Katharine Neil wrote: > Some mailing list advice for you: > When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line. unfortunately this goes to all of us , me first . i quite like this thread , but it shouldn't go under the asio header else the digest gets unreadable .

















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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:23:44 +0300 From: "Lindon Parker" Subject: Re: asio >eric_hard_jams wrote:Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 >00:55:28 +0000 > >shit a girl on the sc list!!!! >lets rape her... > > Mary > > Well done Eric you have managed to make the most stupid remark I have ever seen on this list. You clown, this is not even slightly funny. regards to everyone else, and apologies to Mary. Lindon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:31:55 +0300 From: Matthew Rogalsky Subject: eric Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? sad, innit... m Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 05:07:30 +0300 From: christian adam hresko Subject: Re: eric















Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:05:15 +0300 From: andreas?berthling Subject: Re: eric maybe it's his evil-twin.. >Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? > >sad, innit... > >m Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:19:27 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: eric > From: andreas?berthling > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sun Jan 14 14:05:15 2001 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: eric > > maybe it's his evil-twin.. > >> Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin? >> >> sad, innit... >> >> m > im really sad :( almost as sad as you lot Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:00:19 +0300 From: NiteHiss Subject: OT: aphex twin... yeah but, as a matter of fact, he's one of the few artists out there (together with autechre, 2 lone swordsmen, skam, and few others) who make techno sound "interestingly not boring"... whether he makes things up or not, the final result is much more relevant,















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richard james' "humor" seems to be more in the vein of "making things up." (like all the hardware he supposedly built, and the software he's been writing for the past few years...) cheers, christian

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:15:44 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge Hallaj, World POPClock Projection According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census, the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT (1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is : 6,122,025,551 World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001 (Figures may not add to totals due to rounding) - ------------------------------------------------Natural Time unit Births Deaths increase - ------------------------------------------------Year 131,571,719 55,001,289 76,570,430 Month 10,964,310 4,583,441 6,380,869 Day 360,470 150,688 209,782 Hour 15,020 6,279 8,741 Minute 250 105 146 Second 4.2 1.7 2.4















Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what? Like me, I think there must a number of women who need to be on this list for professional/work reasons. If this person were posting on a company mailing list he would probably be sacked. Richard, I don't care if you're really Richard D. James or the reincarnation of Liberace. Your anonymity in this forum doesn't give you license to act like an arsehole and get away with it. You could be some sick pervert for all we know - after all, you seem to be enjoying this negative attention, rather than being at all sorry about it. So either apologise to Mary and the rest of the list, or go away. At least some indication that women can feel comfortable remaining on this list would be nice. Another thing that irritates me is that I have to waste my time and everyone else's stating the obvious. BTW: If you're advocating population control (below), don't expect us to miss the irony in that. - -----From: eric_hard_jams [mailto:[email protected]] Original Message----Sent: Monday, 15 January 2001 8:16 AM Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge Hallaj, World POPClock Projection According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census, the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT (1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is : 6,122,025,551 World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001















Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:20:23 +0300 From: Gary Lee Nelson Subject: RE: OT:rape-idge I hope I speak for nearly all of the men on this list when I say that I was shcked and offended by that rape posting. I agree that an apology is in order. As far as I am concerned there is no question that women are welcome and, in fact needed here and in every discussion having to do with music and the arts. Some years ago I was asked to write a short comment on young women in music technology for http://music.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/ They were interested in my perspective as a teacher of music technology at the undergraduate level over three decades. Here is what I wrote... "There are not enough women in the technological arts but the ones there are make contributions far beyond their numbers. My experience with young women in my computer music and new media classes at Oberlin (including my own daughter who is now a professional in the field) tells me that, in the beginning, they suffer from the science and technology fear that our society and education system forces on them. However, while the young man occupies himself with the details of version numbers and hardware/software features, the young woman focuses on expressive application of the tools and on drawing out her music from the depths of her being. At the end of four years she catches or surpasses the him in technical expertise while he may still not have touched the core of the art."

















> Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what? Yes, he seems absolutely unapologetic: he is a troll who exists on this list only to attract attention and reduce the S/N ratio. The best type of public forum is one whose members all share a common topic of interest and are polite and courteous and stick to relevant threads. The SC list has been pretty good about this for awhile (with only occasional exceptions). But as the number of subscribers increases, the trolls invariably move in and they have to be dealt with somehow. There are a couple of ways to deal with trolls in a useful community like the SC list. In the most extreme case, we could decide to moderate the list, which means that every post has to be read and approved by some person or persons who will decide which posts to pass on to the list subscribers. Moderated forums don't tend to have troll problems, but they have a higher latency than unmoderated lists (if there's only one moderator and she's asleep, no posts go thru til she wakes up), and then someone has to come up with rules for what's acceptable and what's not, and it is obviously a lot of work for the moderators. I don't think the SC list needs to be moderated at this point. Another thing to do is draft some rules for behavior on the list, and have the list owner delete users who don't conform. But then we have to stop talking about SC for a day, a week, or a month and talk about what the rules should be. Then the list owner (James) has to become (or delegate some ones to become) the list mom, who's charged with enforcing the code of conduct and throwing miscreants out of the pool.















Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:10 +0300 From: Mary Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with not feeding him any more negative attention. I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out. Mary Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:25:15 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls > Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list > immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with > not feeding him any more negative attention. > I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If > you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out. > > Mary > > oh no!!! btinternet.com have just arrested me for laughing!!! im going to get 10 years in fucking jail because of you . :/















would 23 hours be ok? This will give you > time to consider what you're saying in a public forum. .......23 hours later oh right,thats amazing,I never thought of that. By the sounds of it > you might try this in your private conversation as well... Oh cool,why do you know my friends and what they do/dont like to talk about then? ogwrtgj.j.jiammies > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:53:32 +0300 From: Andrei Smarandoiu Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote: > > > > >

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Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with not feeding him any more negative attention. I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out.















> Come on man, you're 30 years old and still acting like a damn adolescent ! people like telling each other what to do on this list,must be all the teachers or something:) you love it really I reckon. > It was funny in Jockey Slut,...oh thanks. ooh! bit of name dropping,youre cool arent you? not very funny here. I didnt know that humour was different in magazines and newsgroups,sorry. > Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own > programming language ? ;-) >ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which I find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though. I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory. I think you/they got it a bit wrong ,nope written over 600+ patches for sc1 though amongst other prgs,I was sorting them out recently,to show/impress farmers manual some stuff. and to try and persuade them to give me an Alberto DE campo patch that i wanted to take apart? !)















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I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few. Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?

I've found that creating tracks in SC to be very nice, using Pbinds. I have made "patterns" with multiple Pbinds inside a Ppar, or Ptpar. Paying attention to the lengths, you can arrange the Ppars in a Pseq. I have sequencable efx with Pfx, and as many of them as I require. If the cpu load get's too much, I just write a soundfile and use that instead. This latest remix is 800 lines now, but I expect it to become much larger as the pbinds pile up. The only GUI's I use are for waveform editors, but I'd like to be able to implement visual sequence editors and a pfx patcher so I could do all this constructing in realtime, but I don't really care at this point. It's so nice not to be limited in the amount of hardware I own for making a track. SC provides much freedom. I could use another program for soundfile arranging, but no plug-in's even come close to the things I can do with SC, so I just leave it there. -besides, my iBook hates more than 24 tracks of audio -which isn't all THAT bad, but even then you can forget about plug-ins. I am still consistently amazed at how cool SC sounds, but moreso how efficient and solid it is. I could never get MSP to make even the most basic drum pattern from soundfiles without hiccuping. - -m

















Yeah, I've written something like that too, only mine's several times better. I've been working on it for years - ever since I stopped having to give my tutorials for the minimalists. Mo Tucker is recording new stuff using it, but no one else is allowed to even see it. I just heard that I've even been nominated for a nobel prize for some of the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this. Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi for his private collection. Do you know, I'm thinking of possibly writing up the experience as a book, but only when I've finished my critique of Heidegger. Still, I should have in the bag by the summer. Who knows, one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now. love and kisses y'all















Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:53:49 +0300 From: eric_hard_jams Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls > a dancing bears patch? > > cheers, > > christian > > umm.. no how about this its the only NON sound patch i've got,apart from a tron game patch I posted here a long time ago, looks pretty, oh its SC 1 aswell of course. let me know what ye think.















move3{arg i,x,y,z; r=i.itemRect; l=r.left; t=r.top; w=r.width- 1; h=r.height- 1; c=rot(x,y,0.5,0.5,thX);x=c@0;y=c@1; c=rot(x,z,0.5,0.5,thY);x=c@0;z=c@1; c=rot(y,z,0.5,0.5,thZ);y=c@0;z=c@1; x=x*w; y=y*h; z=z*13.679+zss; idx=1/(z/10+1); x1=l+x; y1=t+h-y; x2=l+(0.5*w); y2=t+h-(0.5*h);















rot{arg a1,a2,b1,b2,th2; r=((((b1-a1)**2).realPart)+(((b2-a2)**2).realPart))**0.5; th=atan((b2-a2)/(b1-a1)); if ((b1-a1)>=0) then th=(th)- �; end.if th=th+th2; if r!=0 then x=b1+(r*cos(th)); y=b2+(r*sin(th)); else x=a1; y=a2; end.if ^[x,y]; }















x1=(x/xm).sin+1/2; y1=(x y1=(x+ + �/ym). /ym).si sin+1 n+1/2; /2; z1=(x/zm).sin+1/2; i.move3(x1,y1,z1); for x=0;x
















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the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this. Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi















Subject: huge projects eric_hard_jams wrote: > > Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more > like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th















i am sure not to be the only one to have spent thought over music generation enviiroonments or may ever one may call more flexible applications in which the process of configuration and setting is the actual composition to a large extent .















>ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which I find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though. I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory.















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