The Flywheel at Coral Castle

The Flywheel at Coral Castle I and many others believe that the core device that Edward Leedskalnin used to move his huge stones and build Coral Castle is the flywheel.

The flywheel sits in the tool room, the bottom part of the tower at Coral Castle.

The flywheel sits in the tool room, the bottom part of the tower at Coral Castle.

The flywheel is held together by cement and has lasted for well over 50 years. This wheel has 5 rows, each containing 24 magnets, so in total there are 120 magnets.

It is easy to mistake these for bar magnets, however they are actually V shaped magnets. From above, they are arranged like this:

These magnets come from the magneto of a Model T ford, as do many of the other parts used by Ed.

The polarity of the flywheel magnets While I was at Coral Castle, I used a compass to test the polarities of the magnets of the flywheel. You can see a short video of the test below.

The following image shows the complete polarity arrangement around the flywheel. This arrangement is the same for all 5 of the rows.

The angles included in the image are those defined in The Secret of the Universe video.

Some measurements of the flywheel and surrounding components Now I will include some basic measurements. It is my feeling that anyone attempting to recreate the feats of Leedskalnin should match the measurements of this wheel, though I do not believe this needs to be taken to an extreme (multiple decimal places) level of accuracy.

Many measurements of the flywheel work out to be a complete inches with no remainders. I found the same thing for measurements of some of the stones around Coral Castle.

Flywheel handle The flywheel handle has a total height of 5.5", which can be divided into 5.0" and 0.5" by the cap at the top.

The large right angle above the flywheel and the pipe. The left part of this piece is focused above the pipe, while the right side is over the flywheel. I'll leave it to your imagination.

Holes in the flywheel There are three holes in the bottom of the flywheel that are equal distances apart. These are at 67.5°, 187.5°, and 307.5° degrees, each being in alignment with a V bend of a magnet.

You can see them from underneath, although it is a challenge to get all 3 in a single photo.

Angles of the flywheel Here you can see the angles of the flywheel. If I ever reference an angle on the flywheel, you can use this image as a reference.

The white square marks the base of a wooden pyramid.

If you know why I have connected 150° and 285° you must get in touch immediately because I did not think there was anyone as clever as me. I would suggest that everyone use these angles. It is also very easy to remember if any given pole is north or south: If the number of degrees ends in a 0 it is a north pole, i.e. 0°, 30°, 60°, etc. If the number of degrees ends in a 5 then it is a south pole, i.e. 15°, 45°, 75°, etc.

Underneath the flywheel handle that enjoys a height of appromately half an inch underneath the flywheel handle. I'd love to tell you why, but I don't know yet.

No one else seems to have noticed this before so I included it here. It is very easy to miss.

Strange things about the flywheel There are objects embedded in the wheel, above the top level of magnets. These are among the strangest aspects of the flywheel.

If you look closely you will see these are not on the same level (Y coordinate) as the top level of V shaped magnets, they are higher up. These pose a threat to all of us who are trying to make sense out of the wheel. Two of these anomalies appear to be very small metallic spheres! The only way to realize this is to run your fingers over them. It is very difficult to see in an image, but the exposed portions of two of these things definitely give the impression of continuing roundness. These two are also directly opposite each other on the wheel, as is visible in the image above. Another one of them was the end of a small stud bolt sticking out of the cement at what seemed like an arbitrary angle. Literally the end of a bolt, I could see it quite clearly when I used the torch on it, there was no doubt about it. I don't know what it's doing in there yet, but I intend to find out. Perhaps it is a point of connection for something else, because the part of the bolt that sticks out is threaded so something may be able to have just enough room to screw onto it! All of these strange objects are contained at the vertical level referenced in the image below.

The wood There is a bunch of wood around the wheel. Two blocks in particular are stand out pieces and I enjoy paying attention to them. I have names for these, the NW and WW, which stands for north wood and west wood. These names are obviously the result of the positions of the woods with respect to the wheel itself. You can see the NW and WW below.

The dimensions of the NW in inches (L x W x H) : 20 x 7.5 x 5.2 The dimensions of the WW in inches (L x W x H): 17 x 9 x 4.5 The west wood appears very rough and varies in width and height throughout its length, as though the precise dimensions are unimportant. Thus my measurements for the west wood are approximations. The west wood is a dull piece and not much fun at all. If you'd like to have a look underneath, there is a photo below.

The west wood is supported by the GS which is in turn attached to the north wood. The west wood is not attached to anything directly and though heavy it can be moved around. I don't recommend moving it because it won't be much fun to return to its original position once it accidentally falls on the ground. It will require you to jump over the metal fence when no one is watching in order to fix it. There are no wires or strange connections seen going into the west wood, as I said, it is a dull place to be. However the north wood has a lot going on.

This square bolt goes into the wood! A metal bar also runs through the entire length of the NW, and each end extends from the wood, offering itself as a point of connection to other places.

Underneath is no less interesting. A somewhat smaller wood (which I'm surprised to now realize I haven't invented a name for yet) seems oddly placed. I imagine that this is intended to be in a straight alignment with the NW, and its position has been swiveled over time.

A wire goes through a hole in the GS and heads directly for the center of the wood!

For now, this concludes my notes on the flywheel. I hope it provided you with some new insights. I would like to post a second page in the near future. If you would like to know something specific or require an additional photo that is not available on this website, get in touch and I might be able to help.

The 'bell' by Mr Ed » Mon May 11, 2009 1:30 am Hi there all you brainiacs, My name is Ed and this b eing my first post on any forum anywhere, please forg ive my ignorance of some of the finer points pertaining th is remarkable technology. I am a stonemason by trade (I know, freaky), but have had some success in building a permanent magnet motor on two occasions, however both spectacularly self destructed due to my inability to control the rpm, which quite literally went through the roof. No injury resulted, other the warm ear from the lovely wife. It did cause me to not build another until such a time as I can be confident of no further disasters. Having watched the video of coral castle several times, I have a suspicion that the 'bell' mentioned several times is far more instrumental than it would first appear. In the depiction of the six pointed star at the masonic lodge, the bell at the center of it is shown almost as a component in an electrical diagram, with the 'ding dong' in the middle being separate from the outer casing. As is the case with a insulated but con ductive component. I am suggesting the possibility of the bell being the outer case and the flywheel being the majority of the internal components. This would make the pyramid not an actual item, more of a means by which to calculate the correct position (in relation to the magnetic field) of the required components and the 'timing' there-of. Also, the old time cylinder seal shown towards the end of the video shows the bloke doing the magic standing in front of a bell shaped object. Even those pesky nazis had a go at anti-grav resulting in a bell shaped device. Unpleasant as they were, they were most certainly clued up on matters technological (Given the context of the times). On this assumption, the 'handle' may not be a handle as such but perhaps performs a function akin to a rotor inside a distributor of a car. If it were only a handle, there would be no need for its distance from center and it's exact height to be such as it is. Also its position in a rotational degrees sense would not be vital. Because it is placed exactly in accord ance with the divisor ratio as explained by Jeremy, I feel it may well perform a function of more importance. I also noted that in the video, the moon pond appears to depict by it's 90 degree raised solid edge placed outside the 16 point circumference, what I think is a 'stator', as in the '168', supported by its orientation and rotary duration to the central star. Then there is the recurring crescent theme placed atop of several columns. These could be indicative of a component designed to transfer the magnetic stream to a given point on, in or about the bell at particular intervals, again like the pick-ups in a distributor cap. Notice they are fat and square ended at the lower side, but culminate in a sharp point at the top. Perhaps pertinent to the two locations: 195 degrees at no height, 105 degrees at a height partway up the pyramid. Maybe where the 'handle' can sweep past it to 'collect the 168'. Even the angle on which the crescents are placed on the columns seems about right for collecting magnetism at a low point in the resulting field, and delivering it at the precise time and place r equired. This hypothesis would make the stator and crescent static, with wire attached below it, while the flywheel and handle spins around, at each revolution creating then discharging a magnetic pulse of low amplitude, within which are rapidly alternating magnetic 'beads' caused by the 24/48 polarities contained in the flywheel. This would surely have to cause a harmonic vibration in whatever the recipient item would b e, stone or otherwise. As in itself the resulting 'signal' would have two differing magnetic qualities. As for the other wire, me thinks it could attach to the top of the 'ding dong' I described earlier (center of bell), which in turn has contact with the revolving metal mass of the flywheel, perhaps through a point not dissimilar to the way high voltage coil power is delivered to the center of ,yep you guessed it, a distributor c ap. Thereby this wire would be attached outside of the immediate magnetic field of the flywheel. Incidentally, I'm not suggesting the bell be fully enclosed, thereby not precluding the 'handle' from being used as such. Far be it from me to suggest Ed (the other one) was trying to con us by displaying the flywheel the way he did... No wait, I suppose that I am. This would be in keeping with the cryptic nature of some of the clues he left behind. After all its not a secret if any old rock thrower can to it, is it?

Anyhow, I re-iterate that as a former soldier and presently a stonemason, I have 'zero' formal training on these matters, and may well be annoying those with more knowledge than I. My apologies to th ose so affected, I look forward to being straightened out. Mr Ed P.S. Jeremy, mate, what an excellent job you did on that video, haven't been so deeply enthralled by something since I first found Dad's magazines in the garage. Good on you! Mr Ed Posts: 2 Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 10:12 pm

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Re: The 'bell' by ResidentEx » Mon May 11, 2009 4:32 am Mr. Ed! OMG! You're right! He's not really worried about whether or not we can replicate his machine exactly. He was worried about telling us the equation/infor mation/frequency/phase of the relationship between gravity and magnetism; how they are two manifestations of the same thing. The mathematics are right there in the flywheel! His 'Moon Pond' is telling us that there is vital information in the wheel and it is written in stone. It's a Universal Truth. Thanks, Mr. Ed! I think I'm going to like you! ~KennyEx (And don't worry about being overly annoying, or possibly posting nonsensical stuff. Being 'Court Jester' is my job!) (Yeah..., like, who are you really ...?) Hmmm..., so are you saying that you think the flywheel equates with a bell, but we're looking at it upside down? The handle being the clapper of the bell. For some reason, 'Ring Twice' is making me think of two circles... interlaced? Like a person with a hula-hoop. It looks like two hoops at angles to one another. Ed seems to point this out with the ADM. sign. Notice h ow the Star Tetrahedron has it's... 'equator' prominent and the upper and lower points seem subdued? Imagine that being two inter-locked rings. If the angle of the rings are high enough and we were to look down the center from above, or b elow, we will see the Vesica Pisces. At least, that's what I think I'm getting... "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."

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Re: The 'bell' by Mr Ed » Mon May 11, 2009 10:25 pm Hi Kenny, For all of us who are stretching our minds trying to understand the meaning in Ed's flywheel to succeed we will have to make a series of 'breakthroughs'. I feel this may be hampered by placing importance on things

that are incidental. Being able to discount these will leave a smaller number of tasks for us to surmount. What I mean is that the mechanically minded or those familiar with vintage auto rep airs will have noted that the whole thing, including the part that rings the bell at the entrance is made from a broken down ford model T. Even when Coral Castle was built, this car was fairly old. There is what appears to be some scoring on the crankshaft in the block underneath the flywheel, most probably the reason that the car was no longer viable for road use. The magnets are from a model T magneto, the block and crank are, the 'cloverleaf I'm reasonably sure are four model T br ake shoes, even the piece attached to the 'star of david' center was originally the end cap of a con-rod. There are many more examples of this to be seen at coral castle. Far from lessening the importance of Ed's achievements, this indicated that he not only knew THE SECRET, but that he was also very resourceful in terms of making due with the things available to him. This ability is something highly valued in New Zealand culture, being referred to as number 8 fencing wire technology, meaning if one can make repairs with whats around, one won't need vast finances to get things done. Vast finances Ed did not have. I'm confident that if Ed had a different type of car to use for parts, it would still have worked. For this reason I'm doing my best to understand the principles, for if they become understood, the building is details. To quote Mr Otto, the inventor of the internal combustion engine: "It is the principle that is brilliant, build it can any dumkopf". I would very much like to be that dumkopf. As I'm sure you would too. Even so, as I don't yet know what is relevant and what isn't, I have just acquired a bucket of model T V-magnets to start experimenting with. As Ed himself said: "Its not difficult r eally, you just need to know how". I certain ly don't know how, but I have a hunch. By reading everything on forums such as this I hope to get to a Eureka moment. Some things are obvious, for example Ed took great delight in the puzzlement of others. Had he wanted us to know just like that he would have explained it or written it down in detail. It is for this reason that I think one or several components are missing from the equation. The whole thing will take on a new meaning once th ese parts are correctly identified and constructed. That is also why I place great importance on the crescent shapes, especially the two surrounding the moon pool. Take note of their position in relation to the pond, which I think is meant to be a r epresentation of the flywheel and the obvious stator. They look like contact points to me. I sense the device needs them but they are not evident anywhere by th e flywheel. Finally I read with much interest your thoughts on the two rings, as the relevance of this has eluded me to this point. There is a ring that may require more contemplation at coral castle, that being the one surrounding the sphere atop the column. It is at a curious angle to the sphere, much like the stripe through the 10 cent logo on the admission sign. According to Ed, there are no co-incidences. Having given my wife all assurance that this experiment won't result in another skylight above the kitchen table I will go to my workshop and attach the magnets to the flywheel and spindle I made yesterday. Watch this space. I'm not nervous at all, honest. Have a good one, Ed. P.S. Do you ever get the feeling that there are those who already know THE SECRET reading all of these musings and laughing out loud at our collective ignorance? Me neither. Mr Ed Posts: 2 Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 10:12 pm

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Re: The 'bell' by ResidentEx » Tue May 12, 2009 2:42 am Mr Ed wrote:Hi Kenny, Do you ever get the feeling that there are those who already know THE SECRET reading all of these musings and laughing out loud at our collective ignorance? Me neither.

Hell, yeah! I'm not high at the moment, so I won't be much good to you. Yeah, if we knew for sure the principles, I'm sure we could build a working device that would need no moving parts. (I think...) New Zealand, huh? I have fancied being able to make it down to Australia and New Zealand, one day, but honestly don't see it happening, which is too bad. Pretty soon, I may not have a home, so will have to re-invent myself again. I think in a lot of ways, I am not overly concerned about this. It's just what to do with all of my junk. Some of it I want to keep, but most of it I should probably sell, or give away. I'm either going to get my b iggest scooter ready for the road, or I'm going to get my bicycle ready, and just go somewhere. I feel the need to do like so many people have told us in the past and try to let go of my material self and try to become un-grounded to this crazy world we live in. To just try and 'be', you know?

Anyway, there are a few smart people that hang-out here and you sound like you fit in. Allow me to act as unofficial greeter and welcome you to the club! ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: The 'bell' by interesting » Tue May 12, 2009 1:12 pm Mr. Ed, I am sure that you have r ead many of the posts. I would like to say hi and good day. My daughter has come back from a trip to your country and has some beautiful pictures and some warm stories about the wonderful people who were nice enough to bring her into their home – she was able to go because of the generosity of many people. I am of the opinion that the Masons of long ago knew of this ability to move heavy stones utilizing the inherent diamagnetic properties of material. Arth ur C. Clarke once said, “Any technology sufficiently advanced enough can be considered magic.” These folks weren’t stupid people, they knew that this information meant power and were very picky as to whom they pass this information on to. Unfortunately, this magic did not sit well with the church at this time and was considered devil worship. To make a long story short, I believe that th is information died out a long time ago. With that said, lets move on…. My own personal opinion of all of this appears to be different from what I have read in the posts, and for the most part keep to myself. Although I do enjoy the occasional dialog with KenneyEx… I do not pay much attention to the math, I am more interested in the mechanics and operation of this tool. I too subscribe to your thoughts on the diagrams and clapper or ding dong as you called it. Looking to the diagrams on the wall of the Lodge, I can’t help but think that th ere might be two basic designs to this device. The “wiring schematics” appear different. I do wish that I had more knowledge of manufacturing abilities during the time these devices were in use. I believe that the pyramid structure was out of necessity. I may be wrong but I can’t find anything that hints towards the use of lathes way back then. Just something to think about with your morning coffee. (Had the pyramid structure be necessary, it would be on Ed’s flywheel.) You are correct in your quote of Mr. Otto. You will have many questions when building this thing. Fortunately, we have some wonderful pictures of the flywheel. Study them carefully – I believe that one of your roadblocks is answered in the pictures. I myself, am kind of “old school” and I am tr ying to build one with regards to the diagrams on the lodge wall. If I can offer some advice, design it so you can easily change out or move your stators. I found some frustration with rewiring them. I have decided to totally redesign the whole thing to make my study of its operation easier. I do not have the advantage of a nice barn to work in. I am working on a much smaller scale and hope that my efforts will be sufficient to see results. My first two models were failures but I have learned some lessons. While working on my third model, I broke it. This in part has to do with limited re$ource$ and choice of material. I do envy your working with more hardy material! Most of all, have fun with it. Interesting. interesting Posts: 28

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Re: The 'bell' by max ping » Fri May 15, 2009 11:09 am Hi Mr. Ed I have had not been on in a while due a family crisis, welcome! This may be far from anything that you stated but this clicked in my head while reading your posts. That is the possibility that the "bell" is maybe the room that the wheel resides in??? max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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Re: The 'bell' by prospero » Fri May 15, 2009 1:21 pm Here is a good interview on Joseph Farell by Project Camelot. In it he talks in depth about the Bell: http://www.projectcamelot.org/joseph_farrell.html "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/

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Re: The 'bell' by interesting » Sat May 30, 2009 1:50 am Hello all, Previously I wrote, "I am of the opinion that the Masons of long ago knew of this ability to move heavy stones utilizing the inherent diamagnetic properties of material." I no longer hold this opinion. I am starting to think that diamagnetics has nothing to do with it. No big deal, now I know what it is not.... interesting...

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by max ping » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:46 pm I'm VERY excited about this whole thing, I think about it incessantly, have for awhile but with this forum, my God... it has intensified. So we have Jeremy's work, kind of working diagram, and we have theories of missing, or not yet found areas so... WE NEED A METHOD! Don't you think. Somehow we need to devise a plan. Compare it to detective work... as a team. I think we need to decide what evidence we have (the weapon) ( freemason design), where it points (I'm shaky on this- antigravity) which is ( the crime), and fill in the blanks. But you know maybe the team members need to work on one area of th e crime scene or as partners maybe to collaborate... I say this because we could all run around in cir cles forever... I don't know, just a th ought. I have recently noticed a minor trend where folks here are calling on Ed's notes and experiments. So i started thinking, 1) maybe everything we need aside from positioning ( Jeremy's work) is right there 2) I can't help wondering if Ed just jumped in and started lifting mega stones, or did he experiment first on a smaller scale= smaller device, the PMH accompanied by sound. I am no Ed, but that seems logical, especially if on his tuberculosis healing pyramid he had a box! or magnets under his seat! max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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Re: method by ResidentEx » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:33 pm I know what you mean, Max... I had a thought concern ing this this morning, but I forgot what it was. It seemed that ther e was something that jumped-out at me, but I was kinda high at the time and was not in an opportune place to make notes. I wish like hell I could remember what it was because it's getting under my skin that I can't think of it, n ow. However, I do remember a wacky idea that I'm going to p ost elsewhere! ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: method by max ping » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:08 am lol, it's always that way, high or not. The best stuff is always right there on the edge...if only... max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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by interesting » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:20 pm Good Day, I found this site the oth er day from Coast to Coast AM web site. I do wish to add some of my observations: From the photo's I have seen, Edward seems to be an inventive sort and makes due with what he has - really clever I must say finding uses for things! I do not believe that the engine block parts that the flywheel sits on performs any other function other than a suitable table that will hold the massive weight of the flywheel and provide for its rotation. In one photo I saw Edward holding the flywheel post. From this photo we can see Edward is right handed and he spins the flywheel counter clockwise. I personally believe that any rotational direction will be fine - that's the beauty of AC. I also thought about the speed of the rotating flywheel - a faster rotation will produce a higher frequency. Let's assume that the flywheel has to rotate at a specific rate. If Edward worked alone then he would have to let go of the flywheel at some point to do what he needed to do. He would have a limited amount of time as the flywheel eventually slowed. I could not venture to guess how long he had should th is be the case. I however think that this is not the case. I would also like to put forth a thought about a photo I saw with a bicycle....I think that Edward strapped the flywheel to the bike so he cou ld move the flywheel closer to where he was working.... I think that an important clue we have to keep in mind is that this is supposed to be simple. If it is true that this was used to build pyramids then it should be simple. I have been slowly going through Edwards experiments and how he wrote them. I am very interested in his ideas as to the perpetual motion of magnetic fields in the closed u-magnet. I have never thought of this as perpetual motion! I want to perform some of his experiments and have started a small scale flywheel of a different design - 6 inches in diameter and already it is hefty for its size... interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: method by max ping » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:37 am welcome to the club interesting! I love this stuff, as it appears you do as well. I too, started a mini version, but it went no where. i have ordered the steal necessary to start Ed's early experiments. i feel like by performing those and seeing the results first hand will put me in touch with the concepts (as opposed to simply reading about it). the bicycle as understand it, was the primary mode of Ed's transportation. i don't know if he used it to run the wheel, good question. The thing you said that makes us "mental brothers" or concept brothers" is i also think everything he did was simple. after all, Ed himself said " it's not hard, you simply have to know how". I tr uly believe that his understanding of the magnetic fields present as well as the underground water, are key to the whole thing. i truly feel that any results with the wheel at another location will br ing inferior or no results at all. i dont think they unachievable just that one needs to understand their coordinates and how they apply. along the same lines, Ed obviously understood astronomical placement, and i think this is the secret... understanding what alignments are necessary according to, magnetic fields, underground water (may be similar or the same), and celestial alignments. max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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Re: method by interesting » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:46 pm Max Ping, Underground water - I did not think of that. Florida would be a good place for that, their water table is high. Astronomy was not one of my better subjects, if looking at the stars and daydreaming was a grade then I

would get an A. Curious about something....do you realize the implications of history if this things works? I have given this some thought and the results would reach even into religion. interesting. Echo Reply Echo Reply Echo Reply Echo Reply interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: method by PinCushion059 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:38 pm curious i wasn't sure i should reply here but it would seem it is fate. i was watching history channel about the tibeten book of the dead. religion religion... how far off is the egyptian book of the dead? i was drawing and looking online for mandalas and i came across this... http://higherbalance.files.wordpress.co ... andala.jpg i was looking through this whith a different understanding after watching the show. when i suddenly was realizing that the center has eds generator in the middle. is the arrow in the middle showing to face east? then theres five arcs of magnets. dont know why theres 40 facing in but past that there's four colors; blue, green, red, orange. kind of an interesting color arrangement in the pedals. any relation to the magnets in the wheel? there are compasses from the center in the corners where the colors meet and a stone henge stone in the negative space of all of the four sides. green blue, red, or ange... is there four magnetic poles? maybe a living and a spiritual. my last observation for today... black is not a 'color' they use much. i would thin k black would be used for a specific representation. and look at the pattern of teeth towards the outside. Hello. @On your rubber band what does the rubber band represent? L's wheel magnetization On the wheel I was looking at another possible way to magnetize the wheel. If the V magnets were instead magnetized side to side so they all stick together, this would spread the poles along the sides and create a magnetic field that would never degrade as long as they all touch. No if you look at setting magnets just outside the wheel, you will see the poles tou ching will stay inside the iron but the poles inside th e V will bulge outwards in the air gap. This will create a gentle point of resistance to get past and a long arc of attraction, the wheel in this config by be far easier to self power by adding external magnets. This was said to be possible. By adding some cow bell magnets the wheel became OU. For the wheel to stay magnetized in this iron medium I cannot believe any other magnetization would hold for long. The poles at the tip s will start to bend into one an other over time and take on th is polarity anyway. These magnets will easilly change their field since they are touching along their sides. Now with this magnetization we have a reason for the 4 leaf clover. The magnetic field will be running around them in a circle. This can be used to magnetize them all at once. To magnetize the wheel as built, L's wheel is c ast in cement so how can he magnetize them if they fail? Take 4 iron coils and touch them along the clover iron and then hit this with a magnetic field to recharge the entire wheels magnetic field with the correct polarity. Poles will run between the bolts and charge up every V magnet between them. The clover leaf is a magnetizing bar. Best guess. -------------------------- Tempic effects

Now having all the magnets polarized like Wilbert Smiths magnetic device, we have the poles moving straight into the tempic field motion vector and the one spining in opposition will be decreased and the one spining the opposite direction will be increased. One pole becomes dominant. We spin the wheel into its North pole we get one effect, into its south pole another effect. The beauty is that the entire wheel gets the same effect this way. Marcus's spining coil of the Marcus device also spun in this fashion. We know that the tempid field of a magnet will shift if the magnet moves through the line of the poles. Now a wheel with one stronger pole can be set to OU easier using external magnets. I can see why Keeley would have d esigned it this way. He set up also a tempic field vibration distance inside the V where the magnetic field jumps through it. This tempic field vibration will create the wheel of 24 and totally syncronize all the magnets into one central node of vibration simultaniously. At certain RPMs this wheel will have tempic field resonance running ar ound it just like an atom. If one of the ends runs under a coil this will cause a vibration that will run all the way around the wheel setting up a platonic form vibration on the outer teeth and through the cement of L's wheel.@ @OK, I think I just cyphered the reason for the clover leaf. It will connect a loop for the magnets to stay charged if they are set up into 4 sections of opposing fields. Remember L's magnetic circuit. It must have the loop closed to maintain the magnetic field perminently. There is our dual spin system now also! The 4 bolts running into th e cement will take a single pole and bring it out to loop back down the clover leafs iron two directions. In this way he can maintain 4 bucking p olarities at these points. Now we have each forth of the system with reversing spin, and as the systems moves into motion, we get utron action at the magnetic spin level. This all makes sense to me. Fords magnetic system did not need the countering spin systems as it did not effect gravity, but only reached OU.@ @With magnets polarized in this way we now have a large cross sectional pole inside the V on each magnet. This means a large area for tempic field to run straight into the pole head on during motion, and this large area must make the difference for a gravity effect.@

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Re: The Wheel by PinCushion059 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:37 pm

wow, powwow that is a great way to look at it. so by that view, the wheel could be constructed with NO magnetized parts and by adding the magnets later you could "fill or empty" the generator as needed. i may just have to try doing something like this. the vibration you spoke of... so the whole device would hum... all the stone of the castle would hum... i can hear him singing... no, you hear everything singing your p lacing ownership on the man inside. PinCushion059 Posts: 62

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Re: The Wheel by interesting » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:36 am something else to think about..... The spinning of the wheel is done by hand. So physically this limits the frequency to the physical capabilities of the spinner. Kilohertz is out of the question! We are talking very low frequencies: 1 complete revolution of the wheel in one second will give you 12 hertz 3 complete revolutions of the wheel in one second will give you 36 hertz.... Schumann resonance is well within the human ability to spin this wheel. The base wave of Schumann resonance is 7.83 Hz! This is a nice slow spin! Interesting. interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: The Wheel by max ping » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:38 am interesting...very!

Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:17 pm I have been giving some thought to the flywheel design and the patterns shown us from the Lodge. You will notice that there are two types of patterns presented to us in the lodge. The first pattern has 5 stators (for lack of a better word) per side on a square and the other has 7. You will also notice that the pattern is different per square. The pattern that has the 5 stators appears to be interlocking where the pattern with 7 stators does not. Now look at the Star of David. The Star of David has the same interlocking pattern as the square with the 5 stators. It happens to be that the Star of David will only fit onto the square with 5 stators – the square with 7 stators will not hold the Star of David pattern. It appears to me that there are two designs to this flywheel. The Lodge shows us the two different designs. Any other flywheel design is a multiple of these two base designs – you can check for yourself I did 65 different designs and came up with the same pattern. It also appears to me that these two designs may be schematic diagrams. Is it me or does it seem like the magnetic patterns appear to be holding up the magnetism of the columns attached to the roof? interesting interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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by cosmos69 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:11 pm Hello interesting, Is there any way you could pu t a diagram with what you are stating? Maybe import the diagram into a paint program and put labels on it? Would help me to see the big picture. :) cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by prospero » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:13 am cosmos69 wrote:Hello interesting,

Is there any way you could pu t a diagram with what you are stating? Maybe import the diagram into a paint program and put labels on it? Would help me to see the big picture. :) Hello cosmos69, Your post was made at 11:11. Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:03 pm Sorry Folks, I should be able to get some time today to do this.

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:32 pm Ok...feeling a little dumb...how do I attach a .wmf file? interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by ResidentEx » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:18 pm interesting wrote: Ok...feeling a little dumb...how do I attach a .wmf file?

Without knowing whether the '.wmf' format is acceptab le to this system, look below the text box and you'll see another box that will give you this option. ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:02 pm Well...I totally missed the "Upload Attachment" tab. Thanks. First one needs to look at the artistic paintings on the Lodge wall posted on this website. You will notice that there are squares with small circles on the edges – these small circles I call stators. These small circles are also represented on my drawing. To compare the paintings to th e flywheel I created a box around the flywheel with diagonals. The diagonals divide the square into 4 triangles – each triangle represents a side of the square in the Lodge’s paintings. You can see that one has 5 stators per side and the other has 7 stators per side. The stators with the diagonals going through them would represent the corners in the paintings. With that said, look at the paintings again with respect to the Star of David. The Star of David can only be properly created in the flywheel with the 5 Stators per side. In my drawing I show only one triangle b ut can see that the triangle in 7 does not “fit” properly. This is what leads me to believe that there are two basic models of th e flywheel. Attachments

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by PinCushion059 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:14 pm uhm... you have 6 and 8 not 5 and 7 if theres 24 in the ring... devided by 6 is four. all fine and dandy but it is 6 not 5. Im constanly looking at wheels on cars for this vissual representation. honda passports had rims that had 6 U shapes facing out. one of the closest ive seen, some custom wheels have 24 spokes. i only count a quarter of the wheel, pretty simple way of doing it. the other thing to remember.. and i have to remind myself... you have two magnet ends together not just another V continuing on. when metal touches metal it switches the poles, or else it bends the field. im still of the belief the generator was NSNSNSNSNS. your drawings are on the assumption that it is NSSNNSSNNS. PinCushion059 Posts: 62 Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:12 am

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:13 am Please re-read. I was talking about th e circles as stators not the individual magnets. interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:05 pm I am afraid that my small scale wheel is just that - too small. Some of the testing I would like to do appears to be too much for it. Non the less my son and I did have a good time putting it together! The one I made is about th e size of a CD and produces 20 mV ac - no load.....with lots of spinning (dr ill attached) by hand you can get 5 to 7mV I also have a deeper respect for the actual construction that goes into this thing....

Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:03 pm Just and FYI for those interested in Harmonics.... It was well within Ed's ability to create two harmonic circuits - and that was just from the pics.... interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by cosmos69 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:46 pm Hey there 'Interesting' ... I did read your posts. We may use different terminology and maybe I didn't quite 'see' the 5 and 7 in your diagrams ... but I'll tell ya ... I think your on to something, once we can all get our big picture together. When you talk about Jeremy's pictures ... then yeah ... that's in there for sure ... (the 5 and the7) if where talking about the same things! It's just what you say it is ... a schematic ( I think for wiring and for showing magnetic geometries ). cheers cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by interesting » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:12 pm Thank you for reading my posts. There are many discussions going back and forth concerning magnetic fields within Ed’s Wheel. One has to be careful about such things because as soon as you try to tap some of that energy, you now have to deal with Lenz’s Law. This law at its base states that induced magnetic fields are opposing to the change of original magnetic fields. This law is the magnetic equivalent of Newton’s Law of Conservation of Energy. Now apply all that to what is being said in some of these posts and it’s enough to make your head spin. There are two types of energies here, there is kinetic energy in the form of motion and of course magnetism. I would keep the two separate. interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by cosmos69 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:48 pm Hello interesting ... Yes, I understand what you are saying. The problem with 'all' or 'most' of our pr evious, 'modern knowledge' is exactly what Ed stated in his notes. sorry Ed for my less than accurate quoting!

"The scientists have consistently used a one-sided viewpoint, especially in 'their' measurements." I would go as far to call it a 'Linear' viewpoint. Especially when they are discussing anything that contains an ephemeral component. Unfortunately, that would entail ... everything that 'we' can 'see' and would also necessarily contain ... everything th at 'we' cannot 'see'? Modern scientific 'knowledge' has led to many breakthrough s in our understandings, but I no longer hold 'it' up as the shining beacon of our future. If Lentz' or any other's 'Law', used any kind of sine wave ( or any other wave for that matter) in their calculations, they will invariably use that one-dimensional curve to show us (in some two-dimensional format) how they have 'proved' ... something. So they have only 'proved' a slice of something, that 'usually' does not hold up beyond th at 'slice'. Now the Wright Brothers ... they got it right After reading all the "Academic Tomes" that they could get their hands on, they finally admitted that "none of it" stood up to their (Wright Brothers) experiments and findings. So, the Wright Brothers followed the 'age old' Scientific Methhod'. They threw out all those academic, Aerod ynamics books ... and wrote their own! Now that's what I call ... innovation!

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Re: Magnetic Diagrams and Design by scotty » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:15 am

Ed describes Lenz's law in much detail in his notes, but never tells how to overcome it. Scotty.

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Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:32 am Hello all, This is a very important geometry that is nested in Eds wheel. There are 16 opposing and alternating, 'chevron' patterns, connecting different elements in Ed's wheel. This geometry, makes use of the same universal Vortex mathematics(geometries) of Marko Rodin's - Coil and shows itself existing within Ed Leedskalnin's Magnetic wheel. The alternating 90 degree angles in the center 'well' of Ed's wheel are a most important factor in the creation of any magnetic Vortex. There 16 opposing and alternating chevron patterns, have a 30 degree 'inner' angle and a 90 degree 'outer' angle that also build 90 and 180 degree square angles to the elements in Ed's wheel ... and these 90 and 180 degree square angles are also opposing and alternating. These simple geometries soon become very deep geometries ... My sweet sixteen ...

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:45 am This follows the Masonic geometry found in Jeremy' diagrams from the Grand Lodge ... I'm cleaning up some of what I r elayed to Jeremy earlier, as I was typing faster th an I was actually thinking, and If I go back, I know that I made some err ors. ( Jeremy, I think I mentioned divisions of 8 Sets of 3 magnets. Sorry for my confusion there! ) The white and yellow arcs, divide the 24 magnet circle of Ed's wheel ... into 2 - overlapping - Sets of 16 magnets. This is also of interest regarding th e V-magnets orientation. nn/ss... or ns/ns... Going aroung the outside of Ed's wheel: ------------------------------------------------------------------ The white arcs, touch 8 whole magnets and 8 half-magnets. The yellow arcs, touch 8 whole magnets and 8 half-magnets. Meaning, we have 4 separate white patterns and 4 separate yellow patterns and yet, both of these separate patterns are still connected, to each other. That's pretty neat in itself. Then, Going across the inside of Ed's wheel: ------------------------------------------------------------------Each of the 4 white patterns is connected across the Ed's wheel to 2 yellow patterns by their related 90/30 degree chevron patterns. Each of the 4 yellow patterns is connected across the Ed's wheel to 2 white patterns by their related 90/30 degree chevron patterns. The whole of Ed's wheel is acting like an engine of alternating magnetic 'gas' pressures.

As Ed's wheel spins, it spits out ... free individual-magnets (magnetic vapour or gas) ... that are attracted and then guided by ... any/all of the copper wires/coils/connections to th e 4 steel D-bolts and 8 Steel bolts (through the magnets), of the constructed cement well of Ed's magnetic wheel. will be attracted and then guided around the thin copper-wires. This creates 2 alternating S tates in Ed's spinning wheel: 1. Contraction - copper-wire/coil guides to attract the free individual-magnets ( free individual-magnets tighten up to diameter of copper wire ) 2. Expansion NO copper-wire/coil guides to attract the free individual-magnets ( free individual-magnets loosen up to diameter of larger sphere ) analogy: If the copper wires were water pipes, and the individual-magnets were water ... Then as the wheel spins in the water, the individual-water-magnets are under high pressure as the copper-water pipes spin past. After each copper-water pipe is passed, the individual-water-magnets are back in low-pressure area. see that? a geometric work in progress ... cosmos69 Attachments


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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by ResidentEx » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:06 pm Yes. "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by prospero » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:57 pm Hello, Today while in a half awake and half d reaming state I had a vision. Imagine those four yellow arcs moving towards the center and becoming a circle, this would be a repeating cycle.

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by PinCushion059 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:50 pm ok, so can you overlay that on eds wheel so we can see how youre figur ing it in? i see the prongs but where does the rest of it come in? the handle, the layers, the extra piece on the main axis under the handle? if anyone ever gets around to it, can you include the bar thats running under eds wheel at the sweet spot too? PinCushion059 Posts: 62 Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:12 am

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:58 am Hello PinCushion, Ya, I'd love to see the whole shebang in one, 'dynamically spinning' ... 3D hologram, and the effects too, bu t sometimes it's difficult to see everything all at once! Ed's 'complex' thinking, all started from this same basic stuff. It looks like really simple stuff ( and it is! ) at the begining ... but out of simplicity ... comes complexity. If Ed planned the layout of his wheel using basic 2D geometry ( what else? ) we need to keep in mind that 'basic' is ... just another relative term. Basic 2D geometric models ... 'layered on top of ' ... other basic 2D geometric models. All done to realize 3D geometries/effects ... working with other ... 3D geometries/effects. All working in effect with basic Universal geometries/effects, etc. Fractal infinities of ... basic fractal infinities ... ( not enough crayons for that ) My geometric diagrams only show ... a static 2D 'slice' of the geometry of Ed's wheel. ( looking downward onto Ed's wheel, from above ... or ... from below ) This 2D pic of Ed's wheel was taken from an angle ... off of c enter ... but, it's still a great pic. It can be difficult to see some geometric relationships as they can soon become buried under too many points, lines, circles, squares, etc ... of other geometric relationships. I'll show you where I start, to see how I'm “figuring it in”: You could also use circles but ... sometimes ... square properties have a special magic Or, use circles and squares (triangles, etc) but it can get nuts ... pretty fast. The approx. width of Eds wheel is about ... 20 inches (close enough and a round # ). I put two ... 20 inch diameter squares ... around, tangent to, outside of ... Ed's wheel.

Then I'll work inside of those initial squares. Dealing with magnetics, EM, gravity, etc, and geometry, If, we put one square around a circle ... then, we MUST put another square (same diameter) at 45 degree opposition to the 1st square. This will 'balance' the circle just as Ed's wheel (circle) is balanced. Only 1 square would be 'off-balance' with the circle! This gives us ... 2 squares of 4 corner points each, giving u s ... 8 points around Ed's wheel (our circle) that are 45 degrees apart. ( 8 x 45 = 360 degrees ). Balanced. Ya, this is very basic. Let's see how fast it can get more complex ... cosmos Attachments

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:19 am Pincushion, I'll let some pictures do the talking ... I'm not sure about the handle or undercarriage, this is all about the Vee-magnets, 8 vertical Vee-magnet bolts and the 4 cloverleaf (brakepad) bolts in conjunction with ... whatever wires (12 maybe) and coils(?) lie hidden in the cement of the wheel well. cosmos Attachments

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by ResidentEx » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:48 am Inhale and Exhale... ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:07 am Heyla KennyEx You got it babe ... Inhale and Exhale... exactly! but ... don't forget the Pause ... that refreshes.

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by ResidentEx » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:03 pm That must be the Stillness I g ot an impression of the other night. I got an impression of something to do with 'coldness', 'coolness', or 'stillness' during an experience, or two, before. Like, maybe God is to be found in the 'stillness', or 'quiet spaces'(?), but I am not sure, yet. But I have also gotten an impression that there is a rhythm to this 'stillness', or 'quiet', as well... ~KennyEx

Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:51 pm Hello Omar ... Sorry I missed you thoughts earlier ... I think you are most probably ... right on! I can't say for certain, but I think we're all beginning to 'see'. yes? So much goes on in Ed's wheel, all at once, and while spinning. Hard to keep things together and separate at the same time, isn't it? Funny, since you have shared your vision with me, I'll share with you (und, ze vuld) hehe something that I mentioned to Scotty last week, then, we can put both of our visions together, eh? I tried using an analogy of plumbing, pipes and water. (possibly still can) but I messed it up. This is better, something that ... sunoflight said ... got me back on tr ack. Ed said (to some effect) , "ind-magnets travel faster in iron (or metals), faster than in AIR" ... SO ... as Ed's circular wheel spins: the 4 corners of squ are of D-bolt/copper wires/maybe even coils? ... ie. metals actually, allows the free or local ... individual-magnets to travel FASTER in areas of METAL (wires/bolts) ( this contraction in Metal = less pressure = Faster ) than the 4 corner s of the opposing square of SLOWER areas of AIR ( this expansion in Air = higher pressure = Slower ). Omar ... tell me what you think about this ... At first it was quite faint and then it was like watching youbeytubey without the sound. 'A speck of light in th e darkness (no sign of any wheel) just a speck in the dark. It seems to be slowly growing. Now I know that it's growing and think it's moving towards me. It gets a bit bigger, then bigger. Like a balloon or a growing sphere. Then I can see that it's tu rning, in a circle, and it goes past my eyes. Then the whole thing repeats. As this process repeats, turning in a circle, I can feel a slow p ulse. Happens the same way, over and over again, then ... some of this 'magnetic gas' ( I know it is now ) begins to drift, further out prom the previously implied circle ... like it's exploring. Saturation, expanding. It's like waves of soft white smoke, drifting, definitely floating, in its own light wind, but ... still in a circle. and it goes by, passes, round and round. Everything, real gentle like. Very beautiful I found. Now I feel that all this was turning around, cycling around, pulsing around ... the vertical area of the well of Eds wheel ... around th e cloverleaf wheel area. Top, middle ... not sure, but seemed like the top. that's what I saw Omar ( while awake ) I see the arcs repr esenting the different densities in Ed's wheel, allowing for different 'speeds' and geometry, like copper wire diam to .. . not sure ... pingpong b all size sphere? Hey, if Wankel can use a dream for ideas about rad car-engine design ... I'll take what I can get cheers for now Omar cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by ResidentEx » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:34 pm What's the difference in speed for Ind. Magnets to travel through less dense stuff than iron? How could Ed make such a measurement when it seems it should happen at C, or is it C squared? It's kinda strange, yet comforting that it seems to follow rules we have figured-out for sound, you know? Sound waves are not 'energetic' enough to interact with the vacuum/Ether, but EM waves can because they are compatible with the Etheric medium. I guess that means that the Ether is truly Etheric. It's hardly even there, right? What could do that? I'm thinking something that phases in and out of our frame of existence, into another, and hopefully back again, in a loop. This thing, that I have decided to call an Ethertron, but might be the Graviton that they're looking for is, in my opinion, the one, common brick used to construct all matter. I guess where you use bricks, there needs to be mortar, and maybe that mortar is Mind. I'm not sure. However, it would kind of make sense that, as dense as the Ether would have to be of these particles for the 'Zero Point' Energy Field to exist, then how much more so in forms of matter, which is 'not much more' than the accumulation by whatever agency is responsible to create said forms of matter? So it would seem, then, that by whatever agency, these Etherton/Graviton/The Force particles/bricks ('seem to be attracted to movement/spin...) coalesce to create more and more substantial forms of matter. The Ethertrons phase in and out wherever they happen to 'be', I think. Being referring to our space-time frame of reference. However, it seems that spin/movement attracts these hypothetical 'particles' ('Cause this is hypothetical BS without a shred of evidence, nor an education with which to back-up, but it came to me while I was in a mentally deranged state and, since the world's religions seem to be based upon that same process of discovery, it has to be correct, right?), for lack of a better term, which attract more and more. Velocity/Spin cause a time dilation effect to these particles which causes them to slow. Time is the difference between being Lumeneferous Ether and being matter. The Doppler phase shift acts as a 'drag' while the Ethertron is in our space-time, causing it to stay 'here' longer than otherwise. Density of Ethertrons turns into a larger field created by the totality of that group of Ethertrons. They are still winking in and out of our space-time, but at a slower rate. I had a thought on what was behind this, but I seem to have misplaced it. For example, per my model, centrifugal force in a flywheel is from mass/equals acceleration. As the flywheel spins, the center, which is spinning slowly and is more closer to our space-time, links the rest of the flywheel to our space time while the outer rim of the flywheel, which is tr aveling faster, and, because time slows for things that are moving faster th an our frame of reference, the Ethertrons not only slow-down and jam-up in our space-time, but they are r unning slightly in our past, which makes the flywheel hold it's position, due to it's 'dragging'/tugging on our space-time. The r eason the flywheel doesn't gain weight from these extra Ethertrons (I.E., ind. magnets...) is because the extra mass is slightly out of p hase with our space-time and are strewn down a Doppler Shift/is a Doppler Shift. So, from this amount of BS, it seems that Ethertrons/Ind. Magnets 'rain' down on us from space/the Sun through the Ether/Vacuum of space/descend into matter as various gasses, rain down as our atmosphere which is made from these gases, and, as th ey decend and become more and more dense, are absorbed into the even denser materials such as iron/Earth's core before radiating outward again in the form of magnetic fields. (Jacob's Ladder?) As someone said somewhere else on here, we are likened to individual magnets/Ethertrons. If not physically, then perhaps spiritually. As above, so below. In the center of Ed's flywheel the bends in the V magnets are exposed. Perhaps water was put in the center as a fluid medium that is denser than air, is related to the chemicals involved in making our atmosphere, so they feed more readily from thinner to denser via a relationship in chemical/molecular interactions because incompatibilities will kind of act as a diode junction and stop the flow of current. Ed has a ready source of Ethertrons in that mass of iron he has built his machine from. Ethertron/magnetic flow come from the bottom and sprays upward like a fountain, and runs in a loop from the top, around through the bottom, and back up again. From the valleys of the V magnets there are lines of neutrality that I'm thinking radiate outward. How something neutral c an do this, I don't know. I guess what makes Ethetrons neutral is that they haven't gone from a less dense medium to a more d ense one/trap/prison. (Hell) They are winking in and out at a higher rate, but as they are slowly attracted to these masses of 'Cosmic Bricks' their rate of... winking in and outedness slows down and they become more and more 'resident' in our space-time. (Heh, Resident... ) Aren't some of the magnetics circulating in a loop from where they are touching? Since they don't have keepers on the ends, the magnetic fields (part of them) are also radiating outward. If there are coils around the D-bolts, maybe they help feed the neutral/static Ethertrons into moving ones from the 'valley' side? Maybe the clover-leaf pieces collect and focus neutral energy to become polarized energy? (Magnets in motion.) Polarity maybe having to do as to whether you're catching the Individual Magnet/Ethertron on it's 'phase-in', or 'phase-out'? Oh well, enough about sum Quantum BS'n, for now... ~KennyEx

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:09 am -Hello KennyEx, Ya, you caught that 'speed' thing right away. I think we're on the same page. Baking our noodles! We're living in very interesting times. aren't we? Has our our old 'empty vacuum of space-time' finally been replaced with a new-old, aether/ether? A seething, roiling soup of infinitely spinning, in finite (particles-wave) individual-magnets? There's still the old joke, "there is really only 1 very busy electron". So, now that would be ... "there is really just 2, very busy individual-magnets?" Do all the 'old' sub-atomic particles, really travel at C or close to C (Speed of light)? So, what about individual-magnets? Do they know some tricks th at we don't? We like to think that we know what the real constants are. Maybe we still make up constants to fit the current thinking. I try, to never say never. Then there is the 95% of space-time that we can now see only 5% of ... what we thought was 100% ? It got really dark, really fast, didn't it. Maybe there is 5% of flotsam floating in an ocean of 100% jetsam. Maybe there is NO 95% missing? Individual-magnets, they will replace Strings in a heartbeat. (and the extra dimensions that go with it) 'Real/Reality'... always a moving target. I'll throw in with Nassim Haremin and Marko Rodin and th eir likes. I think that they are both way more 'real' than any spoon-feeding, corporate-science of circular-formula and circular arguments. I can make up my own circular-arguments and be happier. Watch this:) The only 'Real' things that I can 'really' see are - the ratios, numbers and geometries. 1. Everything has a Middle - helps to keep things Temporary. (Haremein's term is Boundaries) 2. Numbers, ratios and geometries, middles and infinities are - IDEALs for Matter-Energy. 3. Everything is Temporary. necessarily this includes: numbers, ratios, geometries, middles and infinities I wouldn't presume to know everything that Temporary entails. I might presume that there ar e things in the universe far greater than our own human intellect. 4. Every circle has its squares and every square has circles. - of course, this concept is not limited to just circle and square shapes. - this is really simple but has profound consequences of fractal nature of numbers, ratios, geometries and infinities.

meanwhile, back to ... another reality ~~~ Kenny, you started with, "What is the Speed? ( these Time things), anyways? "What's the difference in speed for Ind. Magnets to travel through less dense stuff than iron?" Good questions Kenny, but I don't quite know what to think about all this yet, either! I like the way that everyone is inputting and digging and building and yakking. It's good. It feels like we are all moving towards some kind of an 'understanding'. Does the density thing hold up? metals (More dense than air) : individual-magnets : move Faster here (than in air) air (Less dense than metals) : individual-magnets : move Slower here (than in metals) Not my best in-depth analysis. I have trouble staying on track thinking of what is really moving in relation to each other, when Ed's wheel is spinning? If the Vee-magnets, ( and everything else in this universe ) are really made up of individual-magnets themselves, then is anything really moving, or is movement just an illusion of all spin relations to each other? I think you went there already Kenny, with the densities, etc. In fact I'm still trying to digest everything you put down there. You were really cooking kenny! They still teach that 'electrons' travel through (inside of) a copper wire? Some have said that 'electrons' really travel on the outside of a copper wire. ( Kinda sounds like Ed's light-plants- ind-magnets. ) Are the copper metal individual-magnets just in a different 'State of individual-magnets' than the 'Magnetic-Current' individual-magnets? Matter individual-magnets (eg, metal, humans, water, air) ... are in 'slower' vibrational States than, Energy individual-magnets (eg, Magnetic-Current) ... is in 'faster' vibrational States. So, I for one am not sure about the details. All your thoughts are plausible Kenny. I do like the idea of fractal pairs of individual-magnets, being ... everything. If they are just there ... like the geometries, then that takes care of Gravities - 'Action at a Distance' - right there! And as 'the Square of the Distance' is second nature to the geometry, well ... that just follows. They create their own black-hole vortex, their own gravity and it's all fractal infinities within ... temporary-boundaries. I buy that over most of th e historical contradictions. Kenny, re. "the bends in the V magnets are exposed" ... After reading Eds, "the middle of the magnets are weakest" (something like that), right away it looked like there is a weaker, magnetic-pressure pocket inside the cement well. A prime location for a 'path of least resistance' or pressure ... vortex in the cross hairs. yes? And the Rodin coils 90 degree turns across the coils center location ... the chevrons provide a similar guidance system ... in the center of the wheel. Speed is one thing, inside to outside, but Torque in a spinning wheel is another. Torque is supposed to be equivalent inside to out in a spinning wheel, so they say? By all measurements or just Linear measurements? Ed said that all 'their' measuring tools are 1-sided. So is 'Radial' Torque just an aggregate equivalent to measuring Linear Torque? What are the Torque differentials between all the Spiral points on a wheel. Can we even begin to measure a 3D Torque and if we can ... do we? Is that a corporate secret too? Angular momentum (another catch phrase) is in the same boat. The Square Root of 2 (or 3, 5, 7 ...) does Not ... sweep out the same Area in the same Time ... Eds wheel holds an amazing amount of 'modern' unknowns. If ever known in the distant past, I would bet that a very select few, ever had a handle on a whole, big picture. Something tells me that we might be getting past ... our past? In some ways, we've come a long way. cheer for now Kenny cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:17 am Hello PinCushion, I didn't mean to trap you in this 'Neverending Story' ... ( I was kicked out of the cocktail circuit ... long ago ) Please consider this further rant as ... me just talking to the aether.

cosmos ~~~ We had started with 2 congruent or equivalent squares around Ed's wheel, whose 90 degree opposing diameters and 90 degree opposing diagonals are separated by 45 degrees. Why is this important? I think Ed was just as impressed and respectful of the innate intelligence of all creatures, including spiders, as are many of us here? Take those 2 initial squares of the initial width of Ed's wheel. Call the initial width ... 80 meters or 40 feet or 99 inches or whatever you want ... it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that whatever you choose ... keep it. That's our start point or value. Earlier, I said that a 2 0 inch diameter of Ed's wheel is ... close enough. The second picture is an overlay of a series or sequence of squares ... on top of Ed's wheel. This series or sequence of squares will be moving (or shrinking) from the outside edge of of Ed's wheel ... towards the center of Ed's wheel. Once we have reached the center of Ed's wheel ... this series or sequence of squares will automatically be able to ... geometrically reverse and bounce back ... from the center of Ed's wheel ... moving (or growing ) towards th e outside edsge of Ed's wheel. The initial square is divided by the Square Root of 2 to give us the diameter of the next, inner and smaller square. Simple and efficient. One thing to remember about these 2D squares is that, they also r epresent points of 2D spirals and points lying above and beneath 3 D spirals ... Vortex maps. The first picture ... just filling in some of the lines between the squares ... interesting pattern. cosmos Attachments

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by prospero » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:11 am ResidentEx wrote: That must be the Stillness I got an impression of the other night. I got an impression of something to do with 'coldness', 'coolness', or 'stillness' during an experience, or two, before. Like, maybe God is to be found in the 'stillness', or 'quiet spaces'(?), but I am not sure, yet.

But I have also gotten an impression that there is a rhythm to this 'stillness', or 'quiet', as well... ~KennyEx Hello Kenny, You are so correct! S tillness is the void. The void is the creator's c onsciousness. Which means all energy actually comes from consciousness itself! Consciousness = Void = Stillness = Zero Point Energy Stillness is simulated in the so called Bloch wall of a magnet. Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by prospero » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:22 am cosmos69 wrote:Hello Omar ...

Sorry I missed you thoughts earlier ... I think you are most probably ... right on! I can't say for certain, but I think we're all beginning to 'see'. yes? So much goes on in Ed's wheel, all at once, and while spinning. Hard to keep things together and separate at the same time, isn't it? Funny, since you have shared your vision with me, I'll share with you (und, ze vuld) hehe something that I mentioned to Scotty last week, then, we can put both of our visions together, eh? I tried using an analogy of plumbing, pipes and water. (possibly still can) but I messed it up. This is better, something that ... sunoflight said ... got me back on tr ack. Ed said (to some effect) , "ind-magnets travel faster in iron (or metals), faster than in AIR" ... SO ... as Ed's circular wheel spins: the 4 corners of squ are of D-bolt/copper wires/maybe even coils? ... ie. metals actually, allows the free or local ... individual-magnets to travel FASTER in areas of METAL (wires/bolts) ( this contraction in Metal = less pressure = Faster ) than the 4 corner s of the opposing square of SLOWER areas of AIR ( this expansion in Air = higher pressure = Slower ). Omar ... tell me what you think about this ... At first it was quite faint and then it was like watching youbeytubey without the sound. 'A speck of light in th e darkness (no sign of any wheel) just a speck in the dark. It seems to be slowly growing. Now I know that it's growing and think it's moving towards me. It gets a bit bigger, then bigger. Like a balloon or a growing sphere. Then I can see that it's tu rning, in a circle, and it goes past my eyes. Then the whole thing repeats. As this process repeats, turning in a circle, I can feel a slow p ulse. Happens the same way, over and over again, then ... some of this 'magnetic gas' ( I know it is now ) begins to drift, further out prom the previously implied circle ... like it's exploring. Saturation, expanding. It's like waves of soft white smoke, drifting, definitely floating, in its own light wind, but ... still in a circle. and it goes by, passes, round and round. Everything, real gentle like. Very beautiful I found. Now I feel that all this was turning around, cycling around, pulsing around ... the vertical area of the well of Eds wheel ... around th e cloverleaf wheel area. Top, middle ... not sure, but seemed like the top. that's what I saw Omar ( while awake ) I see the arcs repr esenting the different densities in Ed's wheel, allowing for different 'speeds' and geometry, like copper wire diam to .. . not sure ... pingpong b all size sphere? Hey, if Wankel can use a dream for ideas about rad car-engine design ... I'll take what I can get cheers for now Omar cosmos Hello cosmos, Don't worry. I just got this vision in a flash of about a couple of seconds. A top view of the generator with those four arcs meeting in the center, becoming a circle. This was repeating constantly. It is true, a lot of simple things are going on that makes it complex! I totally agree with your thoughts on iron. This metal unlike any other metal is special for magnets. Wow your comment about a movie without sound! That is exactly how my visions are! Totally silent, like I should focus on what I see, not what I hear. If you have r egular visions like me, we should mix our visions! I can explain to you what th at glowing sphere is! I have seen it also. Contact me by PM so we may discuss

this further. Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:33 am Heyla Omar ... great chat and thanks for the info! Ya, Omar ... horizontal pulse (Torus) In-Out and vertical pulse (Vortex) In-Out? Jeremy's great pics. The five spheres, one on top of four? A little sphere pyramid. One question ... how many other 'invisible' spheres show up or what are total required? 12? 16? 144? infinite ? The question and quest is still ... starting those pulses, and keeping them g oing ...like Ed did? chat soon cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:51 am

The Geomtric Saga - continued Some people see wheels and think of ... circles. Some people see wheels and think of ... circles and squares. Still others can see ... much, much more in them ole wheels. Maybe Ed was one of those ... 'other' people. Circles share squares and squares share circles ... in time. ( Just to name a few 'shapes' ).

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:54 am ok ... Make 2 copies of that 1 diagonal square, and move each copy in opposite directions, <-- . --> OR up and down until the corners of each square touch both the center of Ed's wheel and the ends of the magnets. Just for fun ... think of the squares as pulsing back and forth simultaneously in both directions, from one side or end to the other side or end. Attachments

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:03 am next ... Rotate all three diagonal squares ... 16 times ( by 22.5 degrees ). ( because, 22.5 x 16 = 360 degree circle ) How many circle shapes and patterns do we now see? Remember that, we have only drawn some squares and then we rotated those squares. We did not draw any circles ... or did we? Either way ... it looks like ther e is something like circles there now ... ?

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Re: Sweet 16 - 30/90 degree chevron patterns by cosmos69 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:27 pm

Just for those who have never messed around with grids Those same squares that we rotated earlier are just ... squares within grids. Plato thought of 'continuous geometric p rogression' as the 'cosmic glue'. So, I'll end this for now with a simple rotation of simple grids of squares. If you plan it right ... these grids can draw out the center (2D) plane of the Rodin coil ... Best vibes and have fun.

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About the Flywheel by interesting » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:16 pm I would like to say thank you to the person or persons for all the hard work documenting the flywheel. These pictures and measurements answered many questions. I am grateful for the effort. Nice job, well done. I do not want to come across as unappreciative however, I would like to ask a few more questions. Ed has mentioned the strength of a single U magnet capable of holding 20 lbs….with 5 stacked together that would be pretty strong. So one of my questions is: “When using the compass to confirm the orientation of the magnetic poles, what was your impression of the strength of the magnets?” Ed talked about perpetual motion in a U magnet – this can b e done by placing a steel bar across the two poles. Ok, fine. What happens when you place that same bar half-way down the U-magnet? The construction of the flywheel may have this same configuration. The magnets are sandwiched between two gears. Are the magnets and flywheel gears actually touching? I really can not tell from the p ictures. I do believe that there is some sort of electrical connectivity th rough the bolts. Can someone confirm this for me? In an earlier posting of mine, I mentioned that I thought that this flywheel was mobile. The pictures now confirm to me that this thing is cemented in place. thanks, interesting interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: About the Flywheel by cosmos69 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:32 am Hello interesting, I've only just now had time to view Jeremy's fantastic p hotographs and videos from his recent journeys.

The Hi-res pics of the wires DO look more like steel in these newer pics. Please see my earlier response to your observation. As far as 'confirming' anything? Sorry, I'm also viewing 'at a distance'. I'll leave that for those who know more than I ... : ) Cheers cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: About the Flywheel by cosmos69 » Fri May 01, 2009 7:02 am ~~~ p.s. interesting ... That person documenting the the flywheel ( pictures, videos and measurements ) with his personal Coral Castle (Florida) and the Grand Masonic Lodge (Philadelphia) - Tour of 2009 ... is none other than our gracious Host ... Jeremy Stride ( of Australia ). Jeremy is the man with the eye for detail! cheers cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: About the Flywheel by interesting » Mon May 04, 2009 12:48 pm I just answered one of my own questions.....here is a hint....cc40 LOL interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: About the Flywheel by scotty » Tue May 05, 2009 2:28 am Ed had 2 U magnets that could lift 20 pounds. The Vee mags for the generator are not that strong, but when together they are pretty strong. Scotty.

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by cosmos69 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:36 am .................... ~ ~ ~ ....................... ~ ~ ~ I'm following Jeremy ... who is following Ed. .......................... ~ ~ ~ ................ I'm also following Scotty, in his 'maze'. And a very big ... magnetic maze ... it is! .................................................. This is my little part of the maze.

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:01 pm

~ .................. ~ .................. ~ .................. One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? ~ .................. ~ .................. ~ .................. Recap: We began with a linear grid ... shown by 2 perpendicular, linear cross-hairs. This proved to be inadequate ( by 'itself' ) ... to properly 'Center', Ed's castle-roof 'square' in the 'Center' of the grid. Eds roof wants to be and must be ... ''Centered'. So, we 'moved beyond' this linear (1D) grid. We 'added' ... a second ... linear (1D) grid ... 'outside of' ... the first grid, giving us ... a 'pair' of linear grids. A 'pair' is when ... One becomes Two ... AND ... Two become One. And that's when your center ... 'shifts'. Your center is now ... truly ... 'shared'. Kind of romantic ... isn't it? 'Moving out' from the true linear center, effectively 'shifts' the center of our grid. 'Shifts' the center of our grid into a 'true center' of the second dimension. Zero is now ... 'Inside of ... the pair'. Centered. What's really interesting is that, this allows Eds ... 'oscillating' ... 9 x 9 castle roof square of 8 castle merlons and their 8 spaces, to be ... 'truly Centered'. 1D led to 2D and 2D led to 3D and 3D leads to ... ?

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by prospero » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:01 pm

Hello cosmos, Simply brilliant! Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:51 am Many thanks Omar ... And hang on to your hat. The really good parts are coming up next! cheers cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:24 am .................... ~ ~ ~ ....................... ~ ~ ~ I'm following Jeremy ... who is following Ed. .......................... ~ ~ ~ ................ I'm also following Scotty, in his 'maze'. And a magnificent ... magnetic maze ... it is! .................................................. This is my little part of the maze.

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:35 am I'd like to think that there was some, 'higher purpose' in my missing that 4 number in the grid. If anyone cares to let me know what that might be ... ? Otherwise, most of you already know that ...I goofed! : ) cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:12 am ~ .................. ~ .................. ~ .................. One geometric - solution for Ed's - n umber 7129? cosmos69 ( pics courtesy of master Jeremy Stride ) ~ .................. ~ .................. ~ .................. Attachments


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by PinCushion059 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:06 pm im stil not quite getting it, but keep going... my first reaction is... eds upsatirs is open on four sides like your upper diagram and his tool rom is all closed

in, especially when you put the bar across the door. also maybe correlate this to the outer wall stones. (use the Google sketch up model it works pretty good for this) PinCushion059 Posts: 62 Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:12 am

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:31 pm Hello there PinCushion ... It helps to just think about the Roof of Ed's Castle ... it all starts ... there. I'm in the process right now of putting together the Recap and a 'wrap-up' on the computer. This is ALL about ... the First number 7129 ... of Eds SOTU numbers 7129 / 6105195. This all comes out of 'One' geometric graph that did on 'One' piece of g raph paper. it's ALL ... ( the 7129) ... just there.

We'll see if I can show it better in the Recap and 'wrap-up'. cheers for now Pincushion! cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:37 am ONE Geometric Solution to Ed Leedskalnin SOTU Number 7129 cosmos69 Attachments


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:40 am ~~~ ONE Geometric Solution to Ed Leedskalnin SOTU Number 7129 cosmos69 Attachments


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by cosmos69 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:28 am ONE Geometric Solution to Ed Leedskalnin SOTU Number 7129 cosmos69 Attachments


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by ResidentEx » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:13 pm Hey, Cosmos! You're doing some awfully impressive work! I just wish I understood it better! But, then again, I seemed to always be a slow learner... Anyway, I'm thinking you're onto it! Which just goes to show that we never should have put-up our children's toys (Blocks and tinker-toys, and Erector sets, and what-not...) as it looks like they are tools that can be helpful with understanding the wheelworks of nature. Also, it's good to keep the little kid alive inside of us because I can see that I feel I have lost some of that child-like wonder, you know? Thanks for the hard-work! ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: One geometric solution for Ed's ... 7129? by PinCushion059 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:54 pm This seems familiar... now we have coils at 4 and 5 o'clock positions... and if we still use th e castle roof we see... allways face east. Attachments

Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by ResidentEx » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:31 am Does anyone know if there is a pulley accessible/at the other end (Bottom) of Ed's machine? Is it by chance elevated off the ground in some manner and the front pulley be accessible? Thanks! ~KennyEx

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by Jeremy » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:09 am ResidentEx wrote: Does anyone know if there is a pulley accessible/at th e other end (Bottom) of Ed's machine? Is it by chance elevated off the ground in some manner and the front pulley be accessible?

Thanks! ~KennyEx Hey, The Flywheel does need to be at a specific height. To put this in context, lengths A and B must be the same, as you can see in the image.

Also, in case you haven't seen them ther e are some low qual images of the underside of the Flywheel @ http://www.geocities.com/anti_gravity/C ... tos_2.html

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by ResidentEx » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:02 pm Thanks, Jeremy! Well, from the photos in the link you posted, I can see that the gear for the distributor is at the bottom. Thanks for that. I feel I can now scratch-off that this machine drove a generator/alternator. If the flywheel had internal coils, then all this needs is a piece if iron for the magnets to come close to to cause magnetic flow. Therefore, we then need two points with which to draw the current from this. Maybe the proposed water-pool in the top and the whole base of the machine? But like someone else said, maybe he was using the chains/steel cables/steel as the conductors of magnetic current and his coils were in the ubiquitous boxes at the tops of his tripods? Perhaps magnetic current could exhibit super-conductive properties for magnetism? Therefore, no coils are needed at the machine. It just needs masses of iron and/or steel. (As evidenced in the photo of Ed...) Just a thought. ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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by max ping » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:28 pm why do the two points need to be the same? max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by Jeremy » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:19 am max ping wrote:why do the two points need to be the same?

Hi Max, There are many different parts of the system that interact with each other. For this to occur, every component needs to be a certain size. The size of the overall structur e is based on the size of the magnets and the magnetism they are putting out.


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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by max ping » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:09 am

gotcha, thanks max ping Posts: 53 Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by bigfanof12 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:36 am

the magnets with pyramid on top were suspended at specific height over top of rocks that were being extracted while Ed road a type of merry go round device onthe ground that was connected to magnets above and propelled the same way children do at the ply ground. bigfanof12 Posts: 2 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:28 am

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by lunk » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:04 pm I wonder if there is some pr ocess that causes gravity reversal in the heavy object that is being moved. Like changing the direction of the current causes an electromagnet to reverse poles. The fly wheel may be a device for changing the direction of gr avity in an object. This would make the object to b e moved weightless, but it would still have its' mass and inertia. Also, I don't know how this fits in but "ring twice" could also mean to go around a circle two times (720 degrees) http://s13.zetaboards.com/artistsfor911truth/site/ http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?act=idx

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:49 am That's what I loved about this site from the start ... Great ideas and great patter about all the options! I can't see the 'merry go round device' without getting a vision of George Jetson on his space scooter though ... It may just be me but ... I don't think you can easily move Ed's magnetic wheel ? I can see using conductors .. . I'm thinking those great lengths of Ed's steel wire. Maybe in conjunction with amplifying ley (water) lines ... but that's one heavy cement wheel connected to one heavy crankshaft. non? p.s. Awesome new picture Jeremy ... love th e angle of the pic! Cheers all cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Is there a pulley at/accessible from the bottom of the machi by cosmos69 » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:00 am

P.S. to Jeremy ... OK Jeremy, you got my curiosity buzzing on that pic Would those be Double Squares of A and B? ie): Sq Roots of 5 to 1 leads to Center Sq/Circle of 1 leads to Phi to 1 partial lengths of magnetic sphere diameters? and Should that center line (between A and B) be viewed as ... actually ... cutting the center of the 3rd layer of vee-magnets? ie) it's off-center of Ed's wheel as shown? ya got me here cosmos

Covering Banana Magnets by BBB » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:53 pm Ed's wheel keys the four corners of the magnet ends to the banana magnets joints. Geometry is circle1 contained in the square1 (touching the mid point of square1) with the smaller square2 (touching by four corners at square1 mid point) with circle2 (touching mid point of square2) with smaller square3 (touching by four corners at sqaure2 mid point) with circle3 (touching mid point of square3), recursively. Get it? The purpose of the banana magnets on top is to create a small entry way for linear stream of NS (Magnetic Gate). The smaller the entry the smaller the change, but higher frequency produced inside the interior cavity. Just a theory... BBB BBB Our Imaginations Create. BBB Posts: 30 Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:35 pm

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Re: Covering Banana Magnets by Sputnik11 » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:29 am

Nice work... i though this might add too the topic....would look "interesting" in 3D ...enjoy http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_c ... f_the_dots Be Well, Sputnik A Bin is a container of space, a Container is Space.

Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Fri May 01, 2009 9:56 pm ~~~ There be Geometry, Numbers and Ratios ... here. ( Yeah ... who else? )

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Wed May 13, 2009 9:31 pm Not on my own pc yet, so can't show you an image ... but, The 9:8 Egyptian ratio for squaring circle (same areas) has one interesting connection to the 3 of Ed's megalith rocks standing side by side. ( standing in front of the Khufu? Pyramid support structure of the 90 degree angle on blocks ) The 3 Blocks can be superimposed over Ed's wheel, (like anything else can which itself is overlayed on the 9:8 squares/circle. but ... this gives the total Length of 9 Units for all 3 Blocks. this gives the Square Center Block a Lentgh of 4 Units. this gives the Square Center Block a 4 x 4 square Area = 16 Units . this gives the 2 End Blocks a Length of 9 Units 2.5 Units (each Block) this gives the 2 End Blocks a 2.5 x 4 square Area = 10 Units. Lengths 2.5 + 4 + 2.5 = 9 I need to see the overlays to be sure, but this would mean that the Center well of Ed's wheel should fit into the Inside (maybe Outside) circle of the Square Center Block? So then, overlay the perpendicular (ALL Blocks) at 90 degrees. Now you get Square Roots of Five happening within the 8 x 8 square of the 9:8 ratio squares. They do Not happen at the Centers of the joined V-magnets but at their outside edges. Overall, this gives the points for the 2 alternating divisions of V-magnets. 4 x 4 V-magnets separated by the 4 x 2 V-magnets ... alternating patterns. Now, this should work out to ... 4 x 4 V-magnets = 4 x 15 degrees = 60 degrees, then, 60 degrees x 4 = 240 degrees 4 x 2 V-magnets = 2 x 15 degrees = 30 degrees, then, 30 degrees x 4 = 120 degrees ( 360 degree Wheel ) Strangely enough ... this leaves 4 corners of Areas of 6.25 each ( in the 9 Square of the 9:8 ratio ) and also ... this leaves 4 corners of Areas of 4 each ( in the 8 Square of the 9:8 ratio ) Ed's Khufu? Pyramid support structure of the 90 degree angle could ... fit in the corners of those 4 Areas (squares of 2 x 2 Units) ? again ... those Square Roots of Five happening within the 8 x 8 square of the 9:8 ratio squares now mark opposite corners of squares of 4 within squares of 9, starting to look like the magnetic maze pattterns in Jeremy's R1 Ceiling Tile. The symmetrical part of the magnetism. Just found the relationships with Eds 3 megalith rocks (Blocks) and the 9:8 ratio ... interesting?

I'm going to post some images of all this soon.

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Fri May 15, 2009 5:50 am ~~~ We have covered much territory and the posts on this site are growing fast So, I don't remember if Jeremy or anyone else has found a use or idea about Eds 3 Blocks ? ie) What's Ed's message here? I find this one interesting after learning about the Egyptian 9:8 ratio method for squaring the circle (same areas). If compared ... there are some coincidences here. I'll see where this goes. cosmos69 Attachments

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Sun May 17, 2009 8:27 pm Lighten it up for a minute? OK, here's my new PMH ... ( sans coils ... still working on that ) The metal is less than 1% carbon ... but, I made a mistake with the Holder ( less than 1% carbon ... wrong!) So, I found these 6 pieces of steel, left as garbage under a telephone-pole by a creek. 4 of them are almost same size as required ( 6 inches x 1 1/2 inches ... almost ) So now, maybe I'll find a way to glue them, but the steel bolt holds them fairly well and helps to make up for the holes in the steel bars. amyways, here's some pics ... cosmos Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Sun May 17, 2009 8:44 pm OK, back to the geometry questions of Eds 3 limestone Blocks ... Like, what is the message here ? Is the message of Eds 3 limestone Blocks, related to ... the Egyptian method for squaring the circle? If so, then what does that mean? One thing for sure ... the best Double Square for Eds Wheel V-magnets ... ( whose Diagonal is the Square Root of 5 which leads to various PHI lengths on Eds Wheel) is found using the double squares within the 8 Unit Area ... Square. They join the outside of Eds V-magnets nicely dividing the V-magnets into alternating divisions of 4 V-magnets x 4 times = 16 V-magnets and divisions of 2 V-magnets x 4 times = 8 V-magnets for a total of 24 V-magnets. These divisions of V-magnets may be important clues to the Magnetic patterns formed by Eds flywheel. They also lead to various multiples of PHI ... which I think is pretty neat! cosmos69 Attachments


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by cosmos69 » Sun May 17, 2009 8:46 pm Sorry, these should be viewed before the last 4 pics ... cosmos Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon May 18, 2009 5:53 am ~~~ Where's the PHI ? Coming right up ... cosmos Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon May 18, 2009 5:57 am ~~~ More PHI please ... Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by ResidentEx » Fri May 22, 2009 8:08 am Hey, guys! A thought just occurred to me. I'm not sure if I've seen it speculated about elsewhere, so I'm hoping I'm not inadvertently stealing someone else's thunder.... Would there be any sense in having PMH-type coils around the V-magnets? They would probably have to be smaller/flatter coils, but they would wrap around all five of the stacked magnets, so the coil might could be smaller due to this, anyway? But if there are interlinked, PMH coils under the cement, what would that mean, if anything? Just a thought. ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Sun May 24, 2009 8:16 pm ~~~ Hey there Kenny! Ya, that was the beginning idea about the coils and Eds wheel ... I think. I also thought it wcould have to be around each set of 5 magnets (vertically) because there is not much clearance ( IMHO ) between the magnets for a proper PMH coil. Scotty even drew a good diagram of it. ( It's on this site somewhere ... it's gettin big in here? hehe ) Seeing Scotty showing a proper PMH coil (1500 turns?) I don't think a PMH coil around 5 magnets (vertically) would even come close to fitting inside the cement. That said ... Ed did have some good tricks up his sleeve. Those vertical Iron/Steel posts ( D-bolts ) seem more ideal for some type of coil ( 4 coils maybe? ). There's even, what, 8 smaller Iron/Steel posts? I'm even wondering if all Ed wanted was the actual Iron/Steel posts ( D-bolts ) and maybe those 8 smaller Iron/Steel posts?to act as Magnetic Collectors/Guides. Then, a simple geometric copper/steel wiring to those Magnetic Collectors/Guides. I was thinking 12 wires could connect everything. But ... who really knows? Anyone old enough to remember those X-ray glasses in the back of DC comic books? Man, they were so pre-adolescent cool ... ( on paper that is! ) Could really use them now!

What I could really use is a chronological Time-line ( fact book ) of all the important details/clues to keep a handle on all of this as we move and change our perspectives. What is proven as True to what definitely has been proven False ... in chronological order? One point I'd really like to know ( IF true or false ) ... Did local (Florida) kids REALLY cause a local (Florida) sheriff to call the Government ( FBI? CIA? ) after finding a coral pit ( 10 x 10 or 9 x 9 and 3 or 4 feet deep ? ) holding 4 large (4 feet tall?) PMHs covered in an insulating glass? in the 4 corners of the pit ? Somewhere nearby Coral Castle? Did 20 or more Government agents really swoop in immediately and remove these 4 giant PMHs and other things of Ed's ? Are any of those kids or adults involved still alive and able to testify to that? That's what I want to know ... muhh haha ... Even that would still leave questions about the relationship of the Wheel to those 4 giant PMHs ( IF ).

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by max ping » Mon May 25, 2009 12:22 am kenny, i indeed would like to know about those original pits including seeing some pictures of them. i tried to get the book delivered to my library Mr. Can't is DEAD, the one by Ed's friend. the only place i could locate one was at the Dade county library... i would think it is our best interest to know what happened at that site as that is where the real work was done max ping

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by ResidentEx » Mon May 25, 2009 4:34 am Hey, guys! Thanks for the response! I wasn't sure if this had been discussed, or not, but I see you all have discussed it... At some point, if I can ever get my mind straightened-out so that I can think on some levels more clearly, I'd like to try to put my imagination to work and try to think more deeply on the flywheel, but I first need to try and understand Ed's ideas on how the magnets work. I have been trying to follow Ed's/Scotty's drawings concerning the magnetic currents, but I do not have a conducive situation for following the experiments hands-on. Hopefully, my situation is about to change for something completely awesome and unexpected, and this will lead to an opportunity to be able to follow Ed's experiments and try to gain a better understanding so that I might be better armed to making better informed speculations concerning the Flywheel and all else magnetic. When I make it to Corral Castle later this summer, I am hoping that the sheer act of being in the presence of the place will give me the inspiration that I so desperately need... ~KennyEx "Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman-wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk."


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Fri May 29, 2009 3:50 am

~~~ I feel exactly the same Kenny! Need to work on Scotty', Amit' and Ed's notes ... much more! I'm just posting some diagrams here to semi finish where this was going. Kenny, your question about the 'Center' void ... I also have that question. You'll see here that the Stars of David which come out of the Double Squares and their Square Roots of 5 diagonals ... GO INTO the CENTER of Ed's wheel by HALVES. That means by Pi's. GO OUT OF the CENTER of Ed's wheel by DOUBLING. That means by Pi's. That also means by Harmonics. So it's back to Infinite INs and Infinite OUTs. ( Down to size of Individual Magnets and beyond ..? hehe ) I picture these Star of David templates as sitting in the Center of the 3rd layer (Center layer) of Ed's V-magnets. Now this is 2D, so we now take a copy of this 2D template and tilt it Up or Down by 90 degrees for the upper and lower extremes. So, ... much more study of this required ... all I can say right now. Cheers Kenny cosmos Attachments


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by cosmos69 » Fri May 29, 2009 4:00 am Again ... the Circle is used to build the Star of Davids with the 5 Platonic solids. Again ... Circle used after building the Star of Davids brings out the Marko Rodin Coil - Torus/Sphere with all of Marko Rodin's ... Vortex Mathematics intact. Now if Ed's Wheel can have multiple (Fractal or Scalar or Harmonic) scales of the the Star of David then ... Ed's Wheel could also have multiple Marko Rodin Coil - Torus/Spheres operating. Right? Then ... multiple Merkabahs also? I should think. Everything is ... Temporary/Bounded Infinities anyways.

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by cosmos69 » Fri May 29, 2009 4:08 am One Correction: Please scratch those mentions of Pi's! Wrong concept there. -------------------------------------------------------------------In and out by Doubles and Halves ... Harmonics. That would mean ... Squares of the Distance ( per radial Gravity / Magnetism ... falling off, etc ) Cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Fri May 29, 2009 4:20 am ~~~ By the way ... It's because of the Square of the Distance ( radial Gravity / Magnetism falling off by, etc ) that the Stars of David maintain the same Harmonics (ratios) as the original Circle/Square expansion/contraction ratio ( Square of the Distance ). It's still neat to me that all of these geometrics still outline (FIT) the major design divisions of Ed's Wheel. The Well of the wheel, the circle of the Handle, etc... So, how does all of this affect the effects of the V-magnets? We will just have to study Scotty and Amit's notes on Ed's Magnetic Current ... won't we? Salute all. Cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by Dvorak » Fri May 29, 2009 8:10 am Thats because there is no other way to spread something around a circle. Unless u want it to rotate off-balance. It makes interesting graphics... But there really isnt any secret behind it. And i doubt rock levitation would be the biggest secret as well. This would mean god has some really damn weird sense of humor.. And if there is such a thing as levitation... Why isnt there anything on it in the kamasutra ?.. I'm sure it would allow for some really interesting concepts....

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by Pan Nemoralis » Sat May 30, 2009 4:38 am I'm trying to get up to speed here as I only recently came to know about Coral Castle and Ed. This Masonic emblem with the rope reminds me of the case on the fly wheel...the ropes do not meet as the metal on Ed's machine, similar shape though, would the acacia sprigs represent magnetic energy I wonder?

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Sun May 31, 2009 5:19 am ~~~ Hey Dvorak ... Thats because there is no other way to spread something around a circle. Unless u want it to rotate off-balance. It makes interesting graphics... But there really isnt any secret behind it. And i doubt rock levitation would be the biggest secret as well. This would mean god has some really damn weird sense of humor.. And if there is such a thing as levitation... Why isnt there anything on it in the kamasutra ?.. I'm sure it would allow for some really interesting concepts....

I'm not sure that Ed's wheel(circle) was actually balanced at first. Jeremy found some interesting items buried in the flywheels cement. Metal Spheres? My first thought was that Ed may have used those for adjusting the flywheels ... overall balance ... but that's just a guess? And Ed's 4 D-bolts show that Ed utilized the Square as integral to his flywheel 'Circles'. Also, Ed's 4 brake-pads show that it's not just a 'circle' ... balanced or not. Then there are the Golden Rectangles of the flywheel. I think Ed left the 3 Stone Blocks as a message of that ... which tells me that Ed expected us to know ... certain geometries. And Ed sorta said there are NO Secrets ... "Once you ... know how". So yeah, I don't think there are any real 'secrets' either. More like ... everyone has just forgotten? I see Geometric messages in CC as much as anything else. So ya, I'll look at the 1D, 2D side of things, ( I see it all mapping to the 3D side of Ed's wheel ) to try to see what the ... "Once you know how" might be? I'm not sure 'Levitation' is the concept I'm looking at. Time-Space manipulations of some sort. As far as the kamasutra goes Dvorak ... hehe I'll leave that for the younger ... Dark (and Red) Tantrics?


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Sun May 31, 2009 5:35 am ~~~ Hello Pan Nemoralis ...

Welcome to Jeremy's site! I'm still kinda new to Ed and this site too ( just long winded sometimes ) Thanks for that very cool ( and interesting ! ) illustration ... I'm trying to get up to speed here as I only recently came to know about Coral Castle and Ed. This Masonic emblem with the rope reminds me of the case on the fly wheel...the ropes do not meet as the metal on Ed's machine, similar shape though, would the acacia sprigs represent magnetic energy I wonder?

And Yes, I agree with you whole-heartedly! Flywheel and magnetic current. The ropes not meeting ... kinda gives a second look to "Drop Below" in the Ed's Star of David also! Any idea why they use acacia ... Pan Nemoralis ? cheers Cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by Sputnik11 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:16 am I was looking at the images of the flywheel and something came to mind from a paper i had read... its in relation to the block and crank...mainly the bores and the crank ....from what i can make out with ED its a bit like..."a place for everything and everything in its place"..so it might have some bearing on his construction. looking at what ED has said about the "path/s" that the magnets move along in relation to each other...this is like a bolt and nut "threading" on each other...so the "tortion" aspect of this paper might also provide some insight. http://www.scribd.com/doc/8045387/Russi ... id-Wilcock Be Well Sputnik : thought i might add ..For those interested in ED's writings most of what he has witten can be found in this site also. A Bin is a container of space, a Container is Space.

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:14 am ~~~ I tried to warn those 'Not so Inclined' (at the start) that ... in this thread: "There be Geometry Here!" A Geometric Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel ... (twas a tad lengthy already) hehe So, for those "So Inclined" ... cosmos continues ... geometry -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Searching for messages or clues in Ed's 3 Stone Blocks at Coral Castle. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ed said that he ... "Knew the secrets of the Egyptians." Dis Ed also mean the Egyptian's Geometry. Maybe the Egyptians learned their Geometry from the Babylonians ... and the Summerians learned from ... ? Ever see that "Flower of Life" etched into a column in an underground temple (forgot the name?) near the Great Pyramid of Cheops. A piece of the column broke of exposing some of the stone beneath that "Flower of Life" etching. They say it is 'etched' and not carved because the geometric design goes deep into the stone column as if it was etched by a laser. Some think the temple is far older than the pyramids. Interesting stuff, eh? That's why I became interested in the fact that ... the Egyptian's used the ratio of 9 : 8 as a very close approximation for finding the same Area of a Square as that of a Circle. "Squaring the Circle". Circles and squares are used by many to to describe the plans and construction of the Pyramids. Does this have anything to do with Ed carving his 3 Stone Blocks at Coral Castle? So ... we started with a 9 x 9 Square whose center is itself a square ( Square dimension grid) and 'inside' this 9 x 9 Square we superimposed the 8 x 8 Square, whose center is itself a point ( Linear dimension grid) So ... for one thing, the Egyptian's ratio of 9 : 8 for "Squaring the Circle" 'joins' the Square dimension grid with the Linear dimension grid. ( just like Ed's Castle roof ... remember ? ) So, we looked at the Double Squares in Ed's wheel and found ... conjoined and opposing PHI's within those Double Squares. The Double Squares occur within 8 x 8 Square, whose center is itself a point ( Linear dimension grid). Eds 3 Stone Blocks didn't exactly fit with Eds flywheel? So ... a false start? Yeah, sort of! I also thought that Eds 3 Stone Blocks at Coral Castle we're hinting at Golden Rectangles. The Length difference (in Eds wheel )between the Double Squares and Golden Rectangles

is very small. 2.5 - 2.47 = 0.03 The inverse of 0.03 = 33.3333333333333333 ... ( enter the Nines? ) The square of 33.3333333333333333 = 1,111.1111111111111111111 ... ( enter the Eights? ) So, take another look: Let's use 1 Square from those Double Squares and see how Eds 3 Stone Blocks fit with Ed's flywheel? So now, we are trying to place a Golden Rectangle at the perpendicular to the Double Squares in Eds wheel. It's a pretty good fit! Exactly in fact. But ... what do we now have? Well ... we have: ============================================================================== Eds - 3 Stone Blocks at Coral Castle are in fact: 2 - conjoined and opposing Golden Rectangles Eds wheel may contain 4 overlapping (2 perpendiculars) Golden Rectangles ( 16 Lengths of PHI or infinite spinning PHIs ?) However, each End Block is now itself a ...Golden Rectangle. If we continue shrinking and superimposing these Golden Rectangle of Eds 3 Stone Blocks onto Eds flywheel ... we will effectively define ... multiple PHI Spirals (Vorti?) at intervals around Eds flywheel. What could this have to do with the V-Magnets and the Magnetic Current? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well ... That's for Ed to know and for us to find out !

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by interesting » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:10 am Nice work! I have no doubts that Ed knew architectural geometry. Do we have any history on this man besides coral castle? interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:19 am ~~~ Hey there interesting ... Jeremy is translating a Latvian book about Coral Castle called Korallu Pils. Apparently it does speak about Eds background or history, but at this point I don't know any more than that? I think the story goes that Ed had to leave school in or after Grade 4. It seems that Ed is another good example of Great Wisdom not being corrupted by modern 'Education Systems'.

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by Dvorak » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:53 pm Well..So far he has a bathtub, a reading room..Bedroom.. But no stereo ? My guess is that he was going to carve out some holes in those blocks.... And mount some big-ass subwoofers that could move the mount-everest.. Attachments

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by interesting » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:50 pm Not that he was not "rocking" it out already.... interesting Posts: 28 Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:41 pm

Funny stuff All ...

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:43 pm ~~~ Yup ... very funny Dvorak ... Thanks for the chuckles! cosmos cosmos69 Posts: 395 Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am

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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:06 am This is regarding the Grand Lodge ceiling tiles ... and how they might relate to wiring Eds flywheel. I posted some of this a while back but this shows why reversing the 4 'Mag fields' ( in the corners of the tiles ) makes a big difference. When not reversed ... they join into a complex kind of Salomon' Knot. When reversed ... 4 'Mag fields' begin to mirror into schematic of ceiling Tile itself! Look at the white lines I've added to Jeremy's Tile photo. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------1. Look at the white lines I added ... in the corners of the Tiles and then ... look at the white lines I added in the 4 ' Mag fields' themselves ... see the resemblance? 2. Look at the white lines in the middle of the tiles ( the 8 wires connected to RF bolts Above the wheel and 'Dropped Below' ... ) and then ... look at the white lines I added in the 4 ' Mag fields' themselves ... see another resemblance? It's interesting!

Look at the NOT reversed 'Mag fields' again ( or just Mag clues ... if you like ) and then the reversed 'Mag fields' ... Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:10 am This is regarding the Grand Lodge ceiling tiles ... and how they might relate to wiring Eds flywheel. This shows why reversing the 4 'Mag fields' ( in the corners of the tiles ) can make a big difference. When not reversed ... they join into a complex kind of Salomon' Knot. When reversed ... 4 'Mag fields' begin to mirror into schematic of ceiling Tile itself! Look at the white lines I've added to Jeremy's Tile photo. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------1. Look at the white lines I added ... in the corners of the Tiles Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:13 am ~~~ also 2. Look at the white lines in the middle of the tiles ( the 8 wires connected to RF bolts Above the wheel and 'Dropped Below' to connect to the bottom of Ed's wheel ... ( maybe ?) Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:25 am ~~~ This is regarding the Grand Lodge ceiling tiles ... and how they might relate to wiring Eds flywheel. This shows why reversing the 4 'Mag fields' ( in the corners of the tiles ) can make a big difference. When not reversed ... they join into a complex kind of Salomon' Knot. When reversed ... 4 'Mag fields' begin to mirror into schematic of ceiling Tile itself! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOW Look at the white lines I've added to the ' Mag fields' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------1. The Corners of the Tile match up with the 'Mag fields'. ( or just Mag clues if you prefer ) 2. The White lines of the Tile match up with the 'Mag fields'. 3. Those 5 leaf flowers of the Tile match up with the half-circle 'Mag fields'. The REVERSED 'Mag fields' view is an Open system to the Tile view itself.) ( the non-reversed 'Mag fields' view is a closed system to the Tile view itself.) Attachments


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Re: Study of the Design of Ed Leedskalnin's Magnet Wheel by cosmos69 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:31 am These are not measured views ... just conceptual views. I should really update all this to Jeremy new photos. But ... it's still interesting ( to me ) ... cosmos Attachments


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Let's build this thing! by prospero » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:02 pm Hello everyone: I loved the video, it simplified everything, revealed the logic, and explained the geometry. The relations between past civilizations, and how they built their huge stone structures. As recommended by a friend, I personally visited Coral Castle and got the tour. The regular tour explains absolutely nothing of worth. Now the "extended" tour by the wiser tour guide was enlightening. He showed a few of us who stayed behind after the regular tour was over, what is really going on. Notice when you enter castle, the walls along the inside have vertical grooves in them. These grooves are ley lines that cross over the site. The tour guide explained that the ley lines are formed by underground currents of water. Apparently when the water flows it creates the ley lines. The tour guide explained to us how to perform a kinesiology experiment. He had us stand in exactly front of one of the vertical grooves of wall. He said that my feet should be close together facing the vertical groove. Then he asked me to raise my right arm so that it would be horizontal. He then applied downwards pressure on my right arm and asked me to resist. Amazingly he could not bring my arm down!!! I felt super strong, its very hard to explain, you have to go there and feel the energy flow through your body. Then he asked me to move a bit to the side, and we performed the experiment again. When he applied downwards pressure on my right arm and asked me to resist for the second time, I was super weak. He lowered my arm with little effort. I was skeptical, so I asked him to repeat the experiment again. He aligned me to be perfectly facing the front of the vertical groove again. And to my amazement, even before he tried to lower my arm again, I was strong and powerfull again!!! He tried to lower my arm without success. He explained that these ley lines have life energy (orgone, chi, etc. ) He then asked us to go inside the room where the generator is located. He said, now look behind the generator, what do you see! There was another vertical groove! The generator converts life energy to electricity or anti-gravity. He then pointed us to a metal bar, he said that on a certain position the bar guides the flow of the life energy out of the generator, because if the generator was was spun for more then 30 minutes it would give headaches. I guess from so much energy. Then he asked me to performed the same kinesiology experiment we did outside, but this time just in front of the generator with the metal bar facing a certain position. I felt powerful, the rest you can guess! When he changed the position of the metal bar again, I was weak! This is simply amazing. We must study this further. Jeremy I hope that you have gone to the Coral Castle yourself, we must experience this ourselves in order to understand better. You have laid out the geometry of the generator, now we need to understand how to apply this newfound knowledge. Sincerely, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Let's build this thing! by sonofhendrix » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:21 pm I just watched the google video, and it looks like you have figured out how to create the fly wheel thing, so why have you not build it and demonstrated its antigravity effects?? or are you currently building it as we speak?? are there still some mystery left to solve before we can crack this technology? sonofhendrix Posts: 2 Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:14 pm

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Re: Let's build this thing! by prospero » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:05 pm sonofhendrix wrote:I just watched the google video, and it looks like you have figured out how to create the fly wheel thing, so why have you not build it and demonstrated its antigravity effects?? or are you currently building it as we speak?? are there still some mystery left to solve before we can crack this technology?

Hello sonofhendrix: Jeremy has given us a great big piece of the puzzle. It is up to us to figure out the missing pieces of this puzzle. We must study further the relation between life force its many effects, among which electricity, magnetism, and gravity are included. Here is more information on the great geniuses we must study, in order to comprehend further: http://www.forgotten-genius.com/ Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Let's build this thing! by Pinkfish » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:27 am You may want to listen to this... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3956&hl=en from ~2h23m

He talks about an antigravity device related to number 144 in ancient civilisations... especially in the story of moses in the bible. I'm not into all of this religious things but I think that he has found something very important.

Maybe that one of those softwares : http://www.ansoft.com/products/em/maxwell/ http://www.physicscurriculum.com/magnetism_3d.htm Can help too. Pinkfish Posts: 6 Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:21 am

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Re: Let's build this thing! by prospero » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:38 am Pinkfish wrote: You may want to listen to this... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3956&hl=en from ~2h23m He talks about an antigravity device related to number 144 in ancient civilisations... especially in the story of moses in the bible. I'm not into all of this religious things but I think that he has found something very important.

Maybe that one of those softwares : http://www.ansoft.com/products/em/maxwell/ http://www.physicscurriculum.com/magnetism_3d.htm Can help too.

Hello Pinkfish: Thank you for sharing the video on Nassim Haramein. Although I had seen some of his videos, I never saw this one, being so long! But thank you for showing us the meaning of 144! Tetragrammaton = Tetra + grammaton Tetra = Tetrahedron Grammaton = Gravity 144 = 72 male + 72 female This has been enlightening indeed. He also explains that to create a singularity, a black hole, you need a crystal. Like the ones the Atlanteans used. And that crystal be cut into a tetrahedron, surrounded by a gas. Which gas? Which crystal? It is not said, obviouly he is holding back information. But at least he has given us great clues! He goes on to say that the Sumerians gave us the Black Sun. What the Nazis called Vril, Life force. So apparently a crystal can give off this Life Force, because the geometry resonates with God. Simply amazing. Regards, Omar Last edited by prospero on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:54 pm, edited 4 times in total. "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Let's build this thing! by erfinder » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:03 am Hello Jeremey, I am the creator of http://www.forgotten-genius.com. My own research keeps me from developing it further. I am from Florida, and have visited Coral Castle once. Omar sent me your video and I was very impressed by your attention to detail. I have been studying Ed Leedskalnin's work for some time and my conclusions are similar to yours. I won't take up much space, I have a simple question for you, I am sure you have an answer, as from your video one gets the feeling that you have spent an incredible amount of time researching, believe it or not you have confirmed many things I always felt were true but never investigated as intensively as I should have....Thank you very much for your effort. Here goes. How is the 16-fold pattern generated by the star tetrahedron? A few more details relating to this pattern would be very helpful.

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Re: Let's build this thing! by Jeremy » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:45 am erfinder wrote: Hello Jeremey, I am the creator of http://www.forgotten-genius.com. My own research keeps me from developing it further. I am from Florida, and have visited Coral Castle once. Omar sent me your video and I was very impressed by your attention to detail. I have been studying Ed Leedskalnin's work for some time and my conclusions are similar to yours. I won't take up much space, I have a simple question for you, I am sure you have an answer, as from your video one gets the feeling that you have spent an incredible amount of time researching, believe it or not you have confirmed many things I always felt were true but never investigated as intensively as I should have....Thank you very much for your effort. Here goes. How is the 16-fold pattern generated by the star tetrahedron? A few more details relating to this pattern would be very helpful.

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Hi erfinder, I believe that the 16-fold pattern is being sent from the sun at every moment, and that the flywheel-star is simply a way to sort of 'tune in' to it, and then refocus it towards a specific direction so that it can more easily by utilized, if that makes sense. There is a very interesting story about Edward Leedskalnin healing himself of tuberculosis with a pyramid shape, and keeping it aligned with the sun by rotating with it as it moved in the sky. I suspect this technique was in fact a more 'manual' way of accessing the 16-fold sun field. This can be compared to the more practically useful long term way of actually constructing the flywheel with the star inside, and then ringing it up. Generating the field has to do with ringing twice... There are some things I left out of the video that I will probably post on a separate web page shortly. I am not 100% sure about how the 16-fold field is generated. I do look at it this way though - if there appears to be a lack of information at both Coral Castle AND the Masonic Lodge, the solution should probably be simplistic in terms of its implementation.

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Re: Let's build this thing! by prospero » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:01 pm Jeremy wrote:I believe that the 16-fold pattern is being sent from the sun at every moment, and that the flywheel-star is simply a way to sort of 'tune in' to it, and then refocus it towards a specific direction so that it can more easily by utilized, if that makes sense. There is a very interesting story about Edward Leedskalnin healing himself of tuberculosis with a pyramid shape, and keeping it aligned with the sun by rotating with it as it moved in the sky. I suspect this technique was in fact a more 'manual' way of accessing the 16-fold sun field. This can be compared to the more practically useful long term way of actually constructing the flywheel with the star inside, and then ringing it up. Generating the field has to do with ringing twice... There are some things I left out of the video that I will probably post on a separate web page shortly. I am not 100% sure about how the 16-fold field is generated. I do look at it this way though - if there appears to be a lack of information at both Coral Castle AND the Masonic Lodge, the solution should probably be simplistic in terms of its implementation.

Hello Jeremy: Thank you for sharing this information. Could it be that this 16-fold sun field is the Vril or Black Sun? The supposed energy that the sun feeds the spirit with? Could the clue to the ringing be with the door bell? I mean has anyone measured it? I rung the bell, and it worked. Maybe we could record the frequency of this bell and start from there. Maybe he had a second bell, and the "ring bell twice" is a clue meaning that the bell for the flywheel is located in the flywheel per se. I wanted to know, what is beneath the flywheel. What is the purpose of the shaft below it? Regards, Omar "It is my purpose to enable you to teach others to question everything and to accept nothing blindly." "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever." http://omar-rosado.blogspot.com/


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Re: Let's build this thing! by Jeremy » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:39 pm Yes, that is interesting about the Black Sun. It has 16 points coming off of it. i first noticed it on the cover of one of Joseph Farrells books a couple of weeks ago, something about the Nazi Bell. (There's that bell again...), but I haven't had the chance to get into it.

I do think the solution lies in a literal bell, or ringing, as both Ed and the Masons use precisely the same bell concept. There is something interesting I will put up on the website, probably tomorrow, about the ringing. It has to do with clues in the numerology of the RING twice sign.

I don't have much on what's underneath the flywheel, but I suspect for the most part it is unimportant, except for the wire attachment bit. By the way, I have thought about the idea of the Flywheel holding water. Do you think there is any chance that it is constructed to be able to hold water?


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Re: Let's build this thing! by erfinder » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:11 pm prospero wrote: Hello Jeremy: Thank you for sharing this information. Could it be that this 16-fold sun field is the Vril or Black Sun? The supposed energy that the sun feeds the spirit with? Could the clue to the ringing be with the door bell? I mean has anyone measured it? I rung the bell, and it worked. Maybe we could record the frequency of this bell and start from there. Maybe he had a second bell, and the "ring bell twice" is a clue meaning that the bell for the flywheel is located in the flywheel per se. I wanted to know, what is beneath the flywheel. What is the purpose of the shaft below it? Regards, Omar

If memory serves me correctly it was indicated in Jeremy's video that the 16-fold field is the field we should interact with. If this is the case, and I believe it is, then it is necessary to first comprehend how the field is generated by the star of david shape. I have no doubt that this pattern is being generated by our sun, but the question is not whether it is or isn't, the question is how is the the generator producing that pattern. Jeremy, I too think the device held water. Regards erfinder Posts: 4 Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:25 am

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