TantraLogic Group
The Seduction Community An Introduction
J a me s (P (Ps syc ho Lo g ic ) Ta T a nt ntrra Lo g ic G ro up
A Short History of Seduction •
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Women could ga in power (social influence) through sex – – –
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King David Paris Mark Anthony
Bathsheba Helen of Troy Cleopatra
Ordinary mate selection was ba sed on proximity and social class
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C ourtly love (Lancelot and Guinevere) “Don J uan” Casanova
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L a n g u a g e (poetry,
oration, imagery) A p p e a r a n c e (clothing, jewelry, ornamentation)
Seducers vs. Frustrated Chumps •
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“Cool” (fun, attrac tive) used to be considered an innate, immutable personal quality –
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Ac tors: C ary G rant, Errol Flynn, C lark G able C elebrities: Hugh Hefner, Wilt C hamberlain, G ene Simmons Movies/ TV: J ames Bond, The Fonz, Ponc h & J ohn
C harisma, Social savvy, Skill with women
Average Frustrated C humps (AFC s) figured they were at the merc y of luck and chance – –
Take whatever I can get Beg, plead, chea t, and lie if that’s what it takes
Newsflash: Seduction is a Skill 1970: Eric Weber •
How to Pic k Up G irls
1980s: Don Steele, Ross J effries Dating books and seminars Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) Speed Seduction 1994: Lewis De Payne alt.seduction.fast (ASF) Newsgroup •
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1990s-2000s: The Gurus • • • • • • • • • • • • •
Ross J effries David DeAngelo Mystery (Erik von Markovik) Style (Neil Strauss) Mark C unningham David Deida J uggler (Wayne Elise) Zan Perrion Tyler Durden Lance Ma son BradP Mehow …and many many more
Like any skill seduction can be taught and learned Of course mastery requires practice
The Practice of Seduction •
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Evolutionary Biology Psychology Sociology Self Help Leadership and Management Literature and Art Eastern Philosophy Ac ting and Improvisation Magic a nd Mentalism Sales and Marketing
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The study of human interaction and sexuality is vast
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Socially awkward people Tec hnically smart Driven by the Internet Goal: Model success Experiential emphasis
Key Insights •
Looks, money, possessions don’t matter – –
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Sometimes they help Usually they hurt
Personality, confidenc e, humor, independence are attrac tive Skills c an be learned and taught Succ ess with women can be modeled and emulated Your p re jud ic e s, b ia se s, a nd a ssum p tio ns are irrelevant—evidence and results count –
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Various Styles •
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Supplicating Behavior Frustrated C hump Inner Game Day Game Indirec t Game Methods/Routines
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Attractive Behavior Pick Up Artist Outer Game Night Game Direc t Game Natural Game
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Supplicating Behavior •
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Doing things to win her approval Lavishing her with money and trinkets Needing her
Attractive Behavior •
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Doing things that are interesting to you Guiding her with rewards and punishment Wanting her
Frustrated Chump •
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Tries to entertain her C ares about the outcome Pleads and whines Takes what he c an get Worries what people think
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Always entertains himself Is not attac hed to the outcome Leads and guides Is extremely selec tive Knows what he believes
Inner Game •
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Attitudes and beliefs Confidence Psychological Harder to see to measure Easier to fake, harder to attain
Outer Game •
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Ac tions and behaviors Competence Physiological Easier to see and measure Harder to fake, easier to attain
Day Game •
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Everyday settings: stores, restaurants, parks, work Low key Verbal, vibing, comfort Less c ompetitive
Night Game •
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Soc ial venues: bars, c lubs, soc ializing mixers High energy Physic al, flashy, tension More c ompetitive
Indirect Game •
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C overt intentions Avoids rejec tion Under the radar Reduces her defenses
Direct Game •
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C lear intentions C onfronts rejec tion Over the top C hallenges her to ac c ept or defend
Methods/Routines
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Conscious Rehearsed and prepared Proven/ field tested Formal struc ture
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Blac k and white
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Natural Game •
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Intuitive Spontaneous and improvised Unproven/ hit or miss Unstruc tured or contextual Shades of grey
Some Other Elements •
Cocky and Funny (David DeAngelo) – –
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NLP Patterns (Ross J effries) – – –
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C ocky: Arrogant, irreverent, tea sing Funny: Humor, wit, good natured Hypnotic induction Anchoring Sexual language embedding
Personal Growth (Various) – – – –
Grooming Physical fitness Fashion and personal style Identity and individuality
Choosing A Style •
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C onsider the pros and cons of eac h approac h for you, not “rig ht vs. w ro ng ” Progress is n o t lin e a r –
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Beginner, intermediate, advanced, master ea ch style
Use a style re le va nt to yo ur inte re sts and c ongruent with your skill level – – – – – – –
One night stand (ONS) Same night lay (SNL) Hookup Long-term relationship (LTR) Multiple long-term relationships (MLTR) Girlfriend (GF) Wife (WTF)
How To Be Flexible •
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Progress is about change and experimentation The grea ter exposure to v a r i e t y , the greater your c r e a t i v i t y and i n n o v a t i o n Peacocking like Mystery at Starbucks makes you a d e sp e ra t e a t t e n t io n w h o re C o n t e x t m a tt e rs!
The more you practice the better you get You c an always quit using a style or technique that doesn’t suit you –
But you can’t suddenly adopt one if you don’t know it
The Ethics of Seduction •
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Members of the community like to d e f e n d it while critics are quick to ju d g e it Not O n e M o n o lit h ic A g e n d a –
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Styles show the c ommunity is diverse Different perspectives compete within it
Better to understand the g o o d a n d th e b a d aspects of the c ommunity –
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What beliefs underlie community activities? How does the community help men? Women? How does the community harm men? Women? What practices are ethic al? Unethical?
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Seduc tion is a skill that c an be practiced and learned Seduction is about attraction, not control –
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“Soft sell” beats brute force
Creating value for others inc reases your own value Independence and irreverence are highly attractive There is no best style and no one right way –
Only more effective or less effec tive for you
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