HAUNEBU (H-GERÄT, HAUNEBURG DEVICE) (1939-1945) By Rob Arndt The SS E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4), a development unit of the SS occult “Order of the Black Sun” was tasked with researching alternative energies to make the Third Reich independent of scarce fuel oil for war production. Their work included developing alternative energies and fuel sources through coal gasification, research into grain alcohol fuels, less complicated coal burning engines for vehicles and generators, as well as highly advanced liquid oxygen turbines, total reaction turbines, AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) motors and even EMG (Electro-Magnetic-Gravitic) engines.
This group developed by 1939 a revolutionary electro-magnetic-gravitic engine which improved Hans Coler’s free energy machine into an energy Konverter coupled to a Van De Graaf band generator and Marconi vortex dynamo (a spherical tank of mercury) to create powerful rotating electromagnetic fields that affected gravity and reduced mass. It was designated the Thule Triebwerk (Thrustwork, a.ka. Tachyonator-7 drive) and was to be installed into a Thule designed disc. Since 1935 Thule had been scouting for a remote, inconspicuous, underdeveloped testing ground for such a craft. Thule found a location in Northwest Germany that was known as (or possibly designated as) Hauneburg. At the establishment of this testing ground and facilities the SS E-IV unit simply referred to the new Thule disc as a product - the "H-Gerät" (Hauneburg Device). For wartime security reasons the name was shortened to Haunebu in 1939 and briefly designated RFZ-5 along with Vril‘s machines. At a much later time in the war as production of these craft was to commence the Hauneburg site was abandoned in favor of the
more suitable Vril Arado Brandenburg aircraft testing grounds. Although designated as part of the RFZ series the Haunebu disc was actually a separate Thule product constructed with the help of the SS E-IV unit while the RFZ series were primarily built at Arado Brandenburg under Vril direction up to the RFZ-4 disc.
The early Haunebu I craft of which two prototypes were constructed were 25 meters in diameter, had a crew of eight and could achieve the incredible initial velocity of 4,800 km/h, but at low altitude. Further enhancement enabled the machine to reach 17,000 km/h! Flight endurance was 18 hours. To resist the incredible temperatures of these velocities a special armor called Victalen was pioneered by SS metallurgists specifically for both the Haunebu and Vril series of disc craft. The Haunebu I had a double hull of Victalen. The early models also attempted to test out a rather large experimental gun installation - the twin 60mm
KraftStrahlKanone (KSK) which operated off the Triebwerk for power. It has been suggested that the ray from this weapon made it a laser, but it was not.
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Donar (Thunder) KraftStrahlKanone Contray to popular reports the KSK (Kraftstrahlkanone) was NOT a crude laser weapon able to penetrate 100mm of armor. It was a crude phaser (PHASed Energy Rectifier) that ran off the Thule Triebwerk - as such, the Haunebu and Vril craft had to hover and divert high voltage energy from the EMG engines to ball cascade oscillators that flowed down to two charged barrels wrapped in precision tungsten spirals capable of absorbing a lot of heat. The power could be changed so it was a phaser weapon.
On the Haunebu I the upside down looking tank turret is not - close ups show piping running into two elongated 60mm guns that had shrouds over them. The escape hatch is present because the gunner sat apart in the turret, but this matches NO German tank turret at all, not even the Kugelblitz which wasn't around in 1939 anyway. But because the KSK guns caused both vulnerability and instability, they were dropped in favor of MK installations in the Vril 7 Geist and Vril 8 Odin which had an operating Oberon automated system above the control tower.
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The MK 108 30mm blowback autocannon was mounted in subsequent versions of Haunebu and Vril disks. It had been manufactured in Germany during the war by Rheinmetall-Borsig for use in aircraft. The cannon measured 1057 mm length and weighted 58 kg. Its rate of fire was of 650 rounds per minute with a muzzle velocity of 540 m/s. Because of its slow muzzle velocity the cannon was difficult to aim and its range too short. However it proved to be very effective, reliable and easy to manufacture.
Colorized photo of Donar twin 60 mm KraftStrahlKanone (KSK) mounted under the Haunebu I.
Illustration of German disc phaser weapon with Tungsten transmission coil and ball-cascade oscillators running off Triebwerk
Tungsten transmission coil of German phaser weapon
Part of ball cascade oscillator system for German phaser weapon
Microscopic analysis of tungsten transmission coil
Microscopic analysis of tungsten transmission coil tip
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When a Vril 7 was downed by the Russians in 1945 a similar underbelly mounted KSK gun was destroyed with debris recovered from the battle site. Postwar the strange metal balls and tungsten spirals that made up the weapon could not be identified. But recently it has been speculated that the Triebwerk-connected balls formed cascade oscillators that were connected to a long barrel-shrouded transmission rod wrapped in a precision tungsten spiral, or coil to transmit a powerful energy burst suitable to pierce up to 4” of enemy armor! The heavy gun installation, however, badly destabilized the disc and in subsequent Haunebu models lighter MG and MK cannon were supposedly installed (although it is not apparent from any photographic source, being an internal installation of six MK-108s in an upper and lower triple gun pack). The Haunebu I first flew in 1939 and both prototypes made 52 test flights.
In 1942, the enlarged Haunebu II of 26 meters diameter was ready for flight testing. This disc had a crew of nine and could also achieve supersonic flight of between 6,000-21,000 km/h with a flight endurance of 55 hours. Both it and the further developed 32 meter diameter Do-Stra had heat shielding of two hulls of Victalen. Seven of these craft were constructed and tested between 194344. The craft made 106 test flights.
By 1944, the perfected war model, the Haunebu II Do-Stra (Dornier STRAtosphären Flugzeug) was tested. Two prototypes were built. These massive machines, several stories tall, were crewed by 20 men. They were also capable of hypersonic speed beyond 21,000 km/h. The SS had intended to produce the machines with tenders for both Junkers and Dornier but in late 1944/early 1945 Dornier was chosen. The close of the war, however, prevented Dornier from building any production models.Yet larger still was the 71 meter diameter Haunebu III. A lone prototype was constructed before the close of the war. It was crewed by 32 and could achieve speeds of between 7,000 - 40,000 km/h! It had a triple Victalen hull. It is said to have had a flight endurance of between 7-8 weeks! The craft made 19 test flights. This craft was to be used for evacuation work for Thule and Vril in March 1945. Named Ostara, after the old Germanic goddess of the East, dawn, rebirth, and resurrection, the overloaded Haunebu III may have been boostered by a cluster of A-9/A-10 rockets to get it into the air with SS General Hans Kammler onboard. 1945: Flight of the Ostara-Nazi Flying Saucer?
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1945: Flight of the Ostara-Nazi Flying Saucer? On the grey morning of January 8, 1945, a flock of reporters, pencils and notepads at the ready, hovered around Admiral Jonas Ingram, commander of the Eastern Sea Frontier, in his wardroom aboard a warship in New York harbour. The scribes had come for what Ingram's public-relations staff had promised would be 'a historic press conference.' Ingram, a heavyset, flat-nosed old salt who had gained national recognition as football coach at the (U.S.) Naval Academy (in Annapolis, Maryland), was one of the Navy's colourful characters--and most outspoken. Seated behind a long table, Ingram said: Gentlemen, I have reason to assume that the Nazis are getting ready to launch a strategic attack on New York and Washington by robot bombs. There was a gasp of astonishment from the reporters. I am here to tell you that these attacks are not only possible, but probable as well, and that the (USA's)East Coast is likely to be buzz-bombed within the next thirty or sixty days.
Ingram eyed his listeners, then added grimly: But we're ready for them. The thing to do is not to get excited about it.(The buzz-bombs) might knock out a high building or two, might create a fire hazard, and most certainly would cause casualties. But (the buzz-bombs) cannot seriously affect the progress of the war.' The hard-nosed Ingram added that 'it may be only ten or twelve buzz-bombs, but they may come before we can stop them.'" 'At any rate,' the admiral concluded, 'I'm springing the cat from the bag to let the Huns know that we are ready for them!'. Coach Ingram's announcement triggered a media sensation. The following day, January 9, 1945, the New York Times ran the story with the headline ROBOT BOMB ATTACKS HERE HELD POSSIBLE But the war in Europe ended on May 8, 1945, and no Nazi rocket came plummeting out of orbit to crash in Manhattan. Was Coach Ingram given to flights of fancy? Not at all. Allied intelligence knew that the Germans were working on a "New York Rocket." At least twenty of these large rockets were built at the SS underground base at Nordhausen. What happened to them is one of the enduring mysteries of World War II. In his 1952 book, V2--Der Schuss ins Weltall, Major General Walter Dornberger, commander of the Peenemünde Rocket Research Institute, described the "New York Rocket" in detail. He wrote: Thus the A-9 came into being...the missile was planned to reach at a height of about 20 kilometres (12 miles), a
maximum speed of 4,400 kilometres per hour (2,800 miles per hour) and then go into a shallow curving glide with a peak of nearly 30 kilometres (18 miles). On arrival over the target at a height of 5 kilometres (3 miles), it was planned to dive vertically, like the" V-1, a primitive rocket-powered cruise missile, best known in World War II as "the buzz bomb." A better plan, however, and one which greatly improved range, was to construct the A-10, weighing 87 tons and with a total propellant capacity of 62 tons, as the first step of the combined A-9/A-10. The A-9 was placed on top of the A-10. The latter had a thrust of 200 tons for 50 to 60 seconds and gave the rocket a speed of 4,400 kilometres per hour. After the exhaustion of the first step (stage or A-10), the A-9 would be ignited and lift out of the A-10. Once we reached this stage (in the blueprints), the horses fairly bolted with us. "With our big rocket motors and step (multi-stage) rockets, we could build space ships which would circle the earth like moons at a height of 500 kilometres (300 miles) and at speeds of 30,000 kilometres per hour (18,000 miles per hour). Space stations and glass spheres containing the embalmed bodies of the pioneers of rocket development and space travel could be put into permanent orbits around the earth. An expedition to the moon was a popular topic, too. Then we dreamed of atomic energy, which would at last give us the necessary drive for flight into the infinity of space, to the very stars. Amazingly, the gang at Peenemünde drew up these blueprints during 1942 and 1943. In his book, Gen. Dornberger, a child of the Nineteenth Century, admits to being a little "disconcerted" by these off-duty bull sessions, in which Wernher von Braun, Willy Ley, Klaus Reidel and even Hitler's favourite aviatrix, Hannah Reitsch, "chatted with such easy familiarity about outer space, the moon, the planets and what forms extraterrestrial life might take." The question remains: did the A-9/A-10 combo ever make it into space? There are a handful of clues that it did.
In 1968, Ballantine published a photo on the back cover of their paperback book on German secret weapons of World War II. It shows a swept-winged A-9 on top of a cluster of rocket boosters. Flames pour out of five nozzles on the array. It has the hazy appearance of being shot with a long telephoto lens. This photo is similar to the Soviet rockets then being launched from Baikonur. Unfortunately, with nothing in the photo's background to offer a size comparison, there is no telling whether the "customized" Nazi rocket is full-sized or merely a much smaller test model.
On the other hand, on November 19, 1954, Georg Klein, a former scientist at Peenemünde then living in exile in Zürich,
said he had worked on a Flugscheibe (flying disc) project at Peenemünde in 1942. The Nazi saucers were built by a team of three scientists -- Schriever, Miethe and Bellonzo -- and the vehicle was given the code name V-7. On October 10, 1952, the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reported that a space rocket had been launched from an SS facility near Prague (now the capital of the Czech Republic) in February 1945. The vehicle sounds suspiciously like an A9/A-10. And the launch came about a month after Admiral Ingram's press conference in New York City. During the summer of 1943, the Peenemünde research centre was seized by Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler. German rocketry became a wholly-owned subsidiary of the SS. During a trip to Berlin on September 6, 1943, Gen. Dornberger met his new boss, 42-year-old SS-Brigadeführer Hans Kammler. Dornberger wrote: He had the slim figure of a cavalryman, neither tall nor short. In his early forties, broad-shouldered and narrow in the hips, with bronzed, clear-cut features, and a high forehead under dark hair slightly streaked with grey and brushed straight back. Dr. Kammler had piercing and restless brown eyes, a lean curved beak of a nose, and a strong mouth, the underlip thrust forward as though in defiance. That mouth indicated brutality, derision, disdain and overweening pride. The chin was well-moulded and prominent. One's first impression was of a virile, handsome and captivating personality. He looked like some hero of the Renaissance, a condotierre of the period of the civil wars in northern Italy. Kammler was Himmler's most trusted aide. He had a reputation of being the man who could get things done. In 1942, for example, Kammler, an architect by trade, had personally designed and supervised the construction of the giant Vernichtungslager (destruction camp) called Auschwitz II, with its capacity for 200,000 prisoners, at Birkenau in southern Poland. Now Himmler had new work for him. The Reichsführer-SS wanted an underground factory "completely impervious to Allied bombs" that would build all of the contraptions in the Peenemünde gang's "blue sky" blueprints. It is not known if Hitler approved of this or not--it's part of what Colonel-General Erich von Manstein once called "the hermetically-sealed SS-Reich--but Himmler was determined to build a workable spacecraft. Himmler "urged Pohl to build factories for the production of war materials in natural caves and underground tunnels immune to enemy bombing and instructed him to hollow out workshop and factory space in all SS stone quarries, suggesting that by the summer of 1944 they should have the 'new cavemen' installed in the greatest number of 'uniquely
bomb-proof work sites'... Brigadeführer Hans Kammler succeeded in creating underground workshops and living quarters from a cave system in the Hartz mountains in central Germany in what (Albert) Speer, writing to congratulate him, called 'an almost impossibly short period of two months' a feat, he continued, 'unsurpassable even by American standards.'" With Kammler at the helm, production of V-1 and V-2 weapons went into high gear. In his book V-1, V-2: Hitler's Vengeance on London, David Johnson noted that During the (V-1) Flying Bomb assault, from mid-June to early September 1944, 2,419 of the pilotless aircraft crash-dived into London. Rail and transportation networks were seriously disrupted. War production fell off. Between 8th September 1944 and 27th March 1945, 517 V-2 rockets struck London, with another 378 falling short of their target and impacting in Essex. Throughout southern England, a grand total of 1,054 came down. In London alone over 2,700 civilians were dead from the rockets. On March 27, 1945, the last V-2 to hit Britain came down on Orpington, Kent, about 20 miles (32 kilometres) south-east of London." On the night of 17 December (1944) a V-2 crashed into the Rex cinema in Antwerp (Belgium) during a crowded show. When Hitler was informed that 1,100 people, including 700 (Allied) soldiers had been killed, by a characteristic irony he was reluctant to credit the report. 'That would finally be the first successful launch,' he observed sarcastically, 'But it is so fairytale that my scepticism keeps me from believing it. Who is the informer? Is he paid by the launch crew?' But if Hitler had little faith in the V-2, the same cannot be said of Himmler and Kammler. Himmler gave his aide everything he needed to keep the rocket program going. Kammler still believed that he alone, with his Army Corps and the weapons over which he had absolute authority, could prevent the imminent collapse, postpone a decision and even turn the scales. The (V-2) transports still moved without respite to the operational area" in the Netherlands, Dornberger wrote. "Convoys of motor vehicles bridged the gaps in the railways. Kammler's supply columns, equipped with infrared devices that enabled them to see in the dark, rumbled along the Dutch highways. Himmler's interest in space flight grew out of his personal commitment to the occult. When he had been appointed leader of the Schutzstaffel (Protection Squad) in 1929, the group had been a small unit within the larger Sturmabteilung or Brownshirt militia, a kind of Secret Service devoted to the protection of Hitler and the Nazi leadership. By 1945, however,
Himmler had transformed the SS into "a state within a state." Under his direction, the SS had become the Schwarze Sonne (Black Sun) , an order of mystics that numbered in the low millions. In his book Hitler's Flying Saucers, author Henry Stevens pointed out: The Black Sun to these initiated individuals was a physical body like our visible sun except that the Black Sun was not visible to the naked eye...The Black Sun is sometimes represented symbolically as a black sphere out of which eight arms extend. Such is its most famous rendition on the mosaic floor at Wewelsburg Castle which served as the spiritual home of the SS. Himmler's scientists were influenced by some ideas originating in Asia. Tibet and India are the suspects in question. UFOs have been reported over Mongolia, Tibet and India for centuries. The ancient Indians even claimed to have constructed aircraft which resembled flying saucers. These saucers are called Vimanas.
Since his days in the mystical group Artamen in the early 1920s, Himmler had been fascinated with the scriptures of ancient India. As a reader of the Rig-Veda and the Mahabharata, he would have been familiar with the tales of rishis (Hindu wizards) visiting other worlds in outer space. So perhaps it's no surprise that he sent the German SS-Ahnenerbe, an organization whose purpose was associated with researching German ancestry, out (on) expeditions to the East with the express purpose of acquiring ancient, hidden knowledge. Kammler transferred Gen. Dornberger and Wernher von Braun into the Wasserfall anti-aircraft rocket program in late 1944. Meanwhile, work continued on the Schriever-Miethe V-7 flying disc. With help from another mystical group, the Thule Gesellschaft, the project developed a craft called the Haunebu-1. This saucer "had a 25-meter diameter, a speed of 4,800 kilometers per hour (3,000 miles per hour) and carried a crew of nine men." In November 1943, a second saucer, the Haunebu-2, was built, slightly larger and could travel 6,000 kilometres per hour (3,600 miles per hour) for fifty-five hours. A year later, in early December 1944, Gruppe Kammler unveiled its showpiece, the Haunebu-3, which "had a diameter of 71 meters (234 feet), and could reach a speed of 40,000 kilometers per hour (25,000 miles per hour)" and remain in space "for up to eight weeks, carrying a crew of 32 men. Unaware of the progress of the Schriever-Miethe team, Gen. Dornberger proposed to suspend work on the A-9/A-10 "New York Rocket." The order was immediately countermanded. "But now, at the end of 1944, Kammler demanded its resumption," the general wrote, "I had no idea why. In retrospect, it appears that either Himmler or Kammler--it is not at all clear who--planned to use the A-9/A-10 as a booster to get the Haunebu-3, now referred to as the Ostara (ancient German goddess of the dawn), into orbit rather than have the big saucer make the trip under its own power. On January 8, 1945, the first version of the A-9...took off. The control failed about 30 meters (100 feet) above the firing table (launch pad), Dornberger wrote, "A few days later, we were unable to launch another missile because the alcohol tank had developed a leak. At last, on January 24 (1945), we had our first success. The rocket, climbing vertically, reached a peak height of nearly 80 kilometres (50 miles) at a maximum speed of 4,300 kilometres per hour (2,700 miles per hour)." (This may have been the rocket in the wartime photo that appeared on the back cover of Ballantine's book.) All that needed to be done now was to strap two or three A-9/A-10 boosters together, with the Ostara as payload, and launch from Himmler's new SS base near Prague.
The same day the A-9/A-10 had its successful launch, January 24, 1945, Soviet troops of Marshal Ivan Konev's First Ukrainian Front (army group) entered Auschwitz. Russian soldiers saw for themselves the results of Kammler's earlier "big project." "On April 3, 1945, I had orders from Kammler to evacuate my staff of four hundred and fifty old Peenemünde hands to the Lower Alps near Oberammergau. We moved on April 6, as the American tanks advanced through Bleicherode toward Bad Sachsa," Dornberger wrote, "I parted from Kammler and spent the last month of the war at Oberjoch near Hindelang with my staff and Professor von Braun, who had been injured in an automobile accident." So, on April 7, 1945, Hans Kammler, the architect of Auschwitz-Birkenau, pulled a disappearing act worthy of Houdini. "There are five different versions of his death," Henry Stevens wrote, "And they all read like pulp fiction." Did Kammler head for outer space aboard the Ostara? Or did he leave on an even larger spacecraft, the Andromeda? Only one person knows the answer to that question, and he committed suicide with a cyanide pill on May 23, 1945 -Heinrich Himmler. But if anybody had a really, really pressing need to leave Earth in April 1945 it was SS-Brigadeführer Hans Kammler.
See the books: V2--Der Schuss ins Weltall by Walter Dornberger, Bechtle Vertag, Esslingen, Germany, 1952 Hitler's Undercover War by William Breuer, St. Martin's Press, New York, N.Y., 1989 V-1,V-2, Hitler's Vengeance on London by David Johnson, Stein & Day Publishers, Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.,1981 Flying Saucers Uncensored by Harold T. Wilkins, The Citadel Press, New York, N.Y., 1955 Himmler by Peter Padfield, MJF Books, New York, N.Y., 1990 Armageddon: The Battle for Germany 1944-1945 by Max Hastings, Alfred A. Knopf, 2004
Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, New York University Press, New York, N.Y. Hitler's Flying Saucers by Henry Stevens, Adventures Unlimited Press, Kempton, Illinois, 2003 ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Subsequent postwar claims that this craft was ultimately used for a suicide mission to Mars is completely unfounded; even with onboard SS oxygen generators and modified Draeger Werke pressure suits there is no way this machine could withstand an eight month journey to Mars. What would be the purpose anyway? The Gesellschaften were aiming at channeled flight not conventional space flight.
Illustrations of Haunebu III on the ground and in the air in 1945
Further plans for a 120 meter diameter Haunebu IV were in the works but no such craft is known to have been constructed before the end of the war. However, many Haunebu craft were spotted over occupied Germany in the years to follow - among them, a craft strongly resembling the Haunebu IV by the Bundeswehr in the 1970s. It is believed that all of the mysterious Haunebu craft were evacuated to a sanctuary outside of Third Reich borders; to Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica - Base 211, constructed during the war. In the years following the close of WW2, many Haunebu-shaped disc craft have been spotted all over the world leading to speculation that either the Third Reich survived in another part of the world (primarily in Argentina) or that the victorious Allies had captured the Thule and Vril technology and constructed similar craft. The BRD (Federal Republic of Germany) is also suspected of retaining Thule and Vril technology with official designations of FU-1 and FU-2 (Fliegende Untertassen 1 & 2). The U.S.S.R. research with the German occult technologies is unknown due to Cold War secrecy; however, the Soviets are believed to have captured several of Schauberger's Repulsin models, Flugkreisel engineer Otto Habermohl, and Feuersturm engineer Gerhard Falker in 1945. Although the Soviets had their own disc designs based on the Suchanov series of "Discoplans" from 1958-62 and a rumored experimental circular-wing MiG prototype, the SS Haunebu type might have been experimented with as well since the Soviets got a good share of Dr. Franz Philipp's beam weaponry in Berlin which was part of the SS E-IV Technical Branch. Who knows what other E-IV secrets they got in Berlin as well.
Claimed Flying Disc of the Bundeswehr FU 1 (Fliegende Untertasse 1)
Postwar 1970s shot of BRD disc based on Haunebu technology
Senator Richard Russell served 38 years in the Senate, and was its senior, and one of the most influential, senators at the time of his death in 1971. He was chairman of the Armed Services Committee from 1951 to 1969, and unsuccessfully sought the Democratic Presidential nomination in 1952. A report, classified Top Secret until 1959, when it was downgraded to Secret. and not released until 1985. detailing his UFO encounter was made available by the Fund for UFO Research and its chairman, Dr. Bruce Maccabee. Several key documents were obtained by the group through the Freedom of Information Act.. "The three observers were firmly convinced that they saw a genuine flying disc," says the Air Force Intelligence report, dated October 14, 1955. It goes on to say Russell and his two traveling companions spotted the UFOs on October 4, 1955, while traveling by rail across Russia's Transcaucasus region.
"One disc ascended almost vertically, at a relatively slow speed, with its outer surface revolving slowly to the right, to an altitude of about 6000 feet, where its speed then increased sharply as it headed north." The second flying disc was seen performing the same actions about one minute later. The take-off area was about 1-2 miles south of the rail line. Russell "saw the first flying disc ascend and pass over the train," and went "rushing in to get Mr Efron (Ruben Efron, his interpreter) and Col. Hathaway (Col. E. U. Hathaway, his aide) to see it," the report says. "Col. Hathaway stated that he got to the window with the Senator in time to see the first (UFO), while Mr. Efron said that he got only a short glimpse of the first. However, all three saw the second disc and all agreed that they saw the same round, disc-shaped craft as the first." The Air Force report was written by Lieut. Col. Thomas Ryan, who interviewed Senator Russell's companions in Prague, Czechoslovakia, on October 13, after they arrived there from Russia shortly after the sighting. In his report, Col. Ryan called the sightings "an eyewitness account of the ascent and flight of an unconventional craft by three highly reliable United States observers. He added that Col. Hathaway led off his account of the sightings by saying: "I doubt if you’re going to believe this, but we all saw it. Senator Russell was the first to see this flying disc. We've been told for years that there isn't such a thing, but all of us saw it." CIA documents show that the agency later interviewed the three eyewitnesses in the Russell party-and also a fourth person, who had seen the UFOs -whose name was blacked out on the CIA report prior to its declassification. Interpreter Ruben Efron told the CIA that visibility was excellent. As one UFO approached the train, he said, "the object gave the impression of gliding. No noise was heard and no exhaust was heard, and no exhaust glow or trail was seen by me." After the encounter, Senator Russell told the men with him: "We saw a flying disc. I wanted you boys to see it so that I would have witnesses," according to the CIA documents. And an FBI memo, dated November 4, 1955, also discusses the sighting-and admitted Col. Hathaway's testimony "would support existence of a flying disc" Klaus Habermohl, a BMW engineer who worked as part of the Flugzeug Special Projects Group in Prague, was captured by the Russians in Prague on or about 11th May 1945. He undoubtedly helped the construction of a Soviet disc and I recently came across plans for another Soviet low aspect aircraft that would have used Nuclear propulsion. I do not know whether this worrying development ever got off the drawing board. What I do know is that Senator Russell and his party saw a flying disc during a trip to the USSR in 1955 and that his most credible sighting was swept under the carpet by the same military intelligence personnel with knowledge both of unconventional US and Soviet aircraft. I very much doubt whether Russell and his party saw the disc by accident. There were many elements to the ongoing struggle between the Soviet and US military and their intelligence machines and this is reflected in several texts including John
Ranelagh's definitive book The Agency (Sceptre 1988). Check out the few CIA documents in its Popular UFO Documents collection and note the near hysteria about advanced Soviet aircraft and intentions. Perhaps the most important and hidden aspect of this was the increasing threat of Soviet penetration of US airspace via Alaska. In any case the CIA was most concerned about 'non-conventional air vehicles' under development by the Soviets as the 14th June 1954 memorandum entitled "Intelligence Responsibilities for Non-Conventional Types of Air Vehicles" makes very clear. ~Tim Matthews
Haunebu Disc technical information
HAUNEBU I Moderately Armed Flight Gyro Diameter: 24.95 m Drive: Thule Tachyonator (Triebwerk) 7b Control: Mag Field Impulser 4 Speed: 4,800 km/h (theoretically up to 17,000 km/h) Range: Flight time of 18 h Armament: 2 x 80 mm KSK in rotating turret 4 x MK-108 in body Armor: Double Victalen Crew: 8 Hovering capability: 8 minutes All weather, day and night, capability Employment fitness: 60% First flight: 1939 Available for service: 1944
HAUNEBU II Heavily Armed Flight Gyro Diameter: 26.3m/ 32.0 m Do-Stra Drive: Thule Tachyonator (Thule Triebwerk) 7c Control: Mag Field Impulser 4a Speed: 6,000 km/h (theoretically up to 21,000 km/h) Armament: 6 x 80 mm KSK in 3 rotating turrets 1 x 110 mm KSK in 1 rotating turret Armor: Triple Victalen Crew: 9 (with room for up to 20 people) Quiet flight: 19 minutes All weather, day and night, capable Employment fitness: 100% First flight: 1942 Available for service: 1944
HAUNEBU III Heavily Armed Flight Gyro Diameter: 71 m Drive: Thule Tachyonator (Thule Triebwerk) 7c plus SMLevitators Control: Mag Field Impulser 4a Speed: 7,000 km/h (theoretically up to 40,000 km/h) Range: Flight time 7 to 8 weeks Armament: 4 x 110 mm KSK in 4 rotating turrets (3 lower/1 upper) 10 x 80 mm KSK in rotating turrets plus 6 x MK 108 8 x 50 mm KSK Armor: Triple Victalen Crew: 32 (with room for up to 70 people) Quiet flight: 25 minutes All weather, day and night,
HAUNEBU IV Heavily Armed Flight Gyro Diameter: 120 m Construction only projected for 1946
Thule, SS Military Technical Branch E-IV Thule H-Gerät Hauneburg Device Haunebu I disc aircraft, 1939, 2 produced Thule Haunebu II disc aircraft 1942, 5 produced Thule Haunebu II Do-Stra disc aircraft co-produced by Dornier. Do-Stra = DOrnier STRatosphären Flugzeug, 1944, 2 produced Thule Haunebu III disc aircraft, 1945, 1 produced Thule Haunebu IV disc aircraft project (all discs powered by Thule Triebwerk EMG engines)
Haunebu I
The car is a 1938 Opel Admiral Cabriolet and the woman sitting in back with a horsetail hairstyle is Sigrun. All Vril circle members had horsetail hairstyles as psychic mediums which was not a popular Nazi hairstyle. Photo taken at Arado-Brandenburg
The MK 108 30mm cannon. manufactured by Rheinmetall-Borsig for use in aircraft, was also mounted in subsequent versions of Haunebu and Vril disks. It measured 1057 mm in length and weighted 58 kg. Its rate of fire was 650 rounds per minute with a muzzle velocity of 540 m/s. Because of its slow muzzle velocity the cannon was difficult to aim and its range too short. However it proved to be very effective, reliable and easy to manufacture.
Haunebu II, II-Do-Strata [Do-Stra = DOrnier-STRAtosphärenflugzeug]
This picture shows a “Haunebu-II” next to a house, demonstrating the dimensions of the flight disc.
An enlargement of the red bordered area shows clearly that the lower edge of the right lower cupola (arrows) does not match the remainder of the picture. Even without enlargement, this dividing line is easily recognizable. Even the most untrained layman without special phototechnical knowledge can see an unambiguous “photo-shop” montage!
The same applies also to this picture. While the flight disc is a relatively sharp image, the whole background is a blur. However, the area at the same distance of the claimed flying object would have to be also sharp! The complete contrast of the disc with the remainder of the picture is recognizable without difficulty!
The truck in this photo is usually misidentified as a HANOMAG, but Hanomags did not have such long hoods; it is a 5 ton MAGIRUS
Haunebu III
Haunebu III aerial shot, probably 1945 - Jagdtiger with Haunebu III in background
Haunebu IV
The Do-Stra Haunebu flying disc was the German huge heavy flight gyro developed in the second World War. Contrary to many opinions, it was not armed. It was intended to produce the Haunebu II with tenders for Dornier in early 1945 but the end of the war prevented Dornier from building any Haunebu production.
A short flight test of the mysterious German made Haunebu flying saucer. The Germans supposedly built several but there is no evidence they ever flew. Some have speculated that one of these crashed in 1947 in Roswell and not E.T. This was all done with C4D. The model was built from old blueprints and photos with some added designs of my own. Total time spent on it was around 75 hours including rendering.
