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Has anybody used George Bayer's 5 fold fold horoscope methodology? If so what is your opinion of it? Is there any astrological software which will produce this ho roscope? I am using Astrolog and I am pretty sure it can't do it. Reply Reply With Quote Blog this Post Thank for this post 

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Join Date Mar 2013 Posts 18 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Hello p75213, I am using Bayer 5 fold horoscope h oroscope method, however I think there is some flaw in his method about calculating the house position, or may be I missed somthing. Hence I need to calculate house again. This method work very well with R,RM,R15,RM15, however not good with M and other then, mainly as former reason. For software to calculate, I try alot but not found anything, so I myself create program to u se. I sure you can use Excel to generate what Bayer did in just 10 minutes, this is my opinion after done this program in 2 weeks. tuanha Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Join Date Oct 2012 Posts 8 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Hello tuanha, What is R,RM,R15,RM15 and M? Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Originally Posted by p75213 Hello tuanha, What is R,RM,R15,RM15 and M? In Bayer 5 fold method, he use R for Radix, RM for Radix Mirror, R15 for Radix+15 degree... Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Join Date Mar 2012 Posts 272 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 1 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Originally Posted by tuanha In Bayer 5 fold method, he use R for Radix, RM for Radix Mirror, R15 for Radix+15 degree... an you explain the method for me plz Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Join Date Mar 2013 Posts 18 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Originally Posted by halasoria an you explain the method for me plz I can summarize by step: 1. Use first trade date with time is the open ing bell of stock exchange where stock trade; or first time commodities/forex traded, we got the natal chart (birth chart) contain all information of planets, that we call R 2. Add 15 degree to all planets position, we get R15. Eg Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'' (3 degree 24 minute 15 second), then we add 15*, and get the result 18*24'15''. 3. From R, we mirror entire all planet b y center vertical line, and get result RM (Radix Mirror). Eg: Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'', then the mirror of Jup is Leo 26*05'45''. 4. Add 15 degree to all planet RM, we get RM15 5. This is the hasdest part of this method. From R we use planet position and house position to create Mundane chart, call M, and then like R we create MR, M15, MR15. 6. With all 8 planets' map created, we arrange and sort all together to get the final map. 7.Use moon motion in 1 (ONE) day, we devide to 365/366, and if moon create aspect with planet position in (6), we get entire market trend map. With this map we can far-see the future at anytime in advance. Eg stock A is at 10h00 2001.01.01, then we use the moon motion from 10h00 2001.01.01 to 10h00 2001.01.02 for first year, from 10h00 2001.01.02 to 10h00 2001.01.03 for 2nd year.....

As reading and practicing this method, I still not clear how Bayer calculate house position for M, because the house seem not fit any house system we are using, and this is the biggest problem. As I tested, the R,RM,R15,RM15 work well (with small adjust), but I can not get exact M then I can not use entire method as predict trend, just use for turning date base on R,R15.... The result is good, turning/accelerate point can predict within 1-3 days For more information, I suggest read entire Bayer b ook (turning 400 years astrology to practical), it may take you 1-2 weeks to understand fully this method. There is alread y practice example in his book. Tuanha. Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Join Date Mar 2012 Posts 272 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 1 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Originally Posted by tuanha I can summarize by step: 1. Use first trade date with time is the open ing bell of stock exchange where stock trade; or first time commodities/forex traded, we got the natal chart (birth chart) co ntain all information of planets, that we call R

2. Add 15 degree to all planets position, we get R15. Eg Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'' (3 degree 24 minute 15 second), then we add 15*, and get the result 18*24'15''. 3. From R, we mirror entire all planet by center vertical line, and get result RM (Radix Mirror). Eg: Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'', then the mirror of Jup is Leo 26*05'45''. 4. Add 15 degree to all planet RM, we get RM15 5. This is the hasdest part of this method. From R we use planet position and house position to create Mundane chart, call M, and then like R we create MR, M15, MR15. 6. With all 8 planets' map created, we arrange and sort all together to get the final map. 7.Use moon motion in 1 (ONE) day, we devide to 365/366, and if moon create aspect with planet position in (6), we get entire market trend map. With this map we can far-see the future at anytime in advance. Eg stock A is at 10h00 2001.01.01, then we use the moon motion from 10h00 2001.01.01 to 10h00 2001.01.02 for first year, from 10h00 2001.01.02 to 10h00 2001.01.03 for 2nd year..... As reading and practicing this method, I still not clear how Bayer calculate house position for M, because the house seem not fit any house system we are using, and this is the biggest problem. As I tested, the R,RM,R15,RM15 work well (with small adjust), but I can not get exact M then I can not use entire method as predict trend, just use for turning date base on R,R15.... The result is good, turning/accelerate point can predict within 1-3 days For more information, I suggest read entire Bayer b ook (turning 400 years astrology to practical), it may take you 1-2 weeks to understand fully this method. There is alread y practice example in his book. Tuanha. thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Join Date Jan 2013 Posts 6 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Dear Thanks for your interest. your Uranus is activated in you chart. In simple word astrology is mother of all sciences, and Numerology is father of all sciences. I suggest if you like vedic or western you choose. there is very little difference. Starts with planets, signs and there properties and there significance. google it get course or book if you want i will share. but it is not easy to predict it need lot of study and patience. Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Hello tuanha, So did you use excel or another program to generate the output, and can you give a screen shot of your output, as I might spend the time to create my own version. Originally Posted by tuanha Hello p75213, I am using Bayer 5 fold horoscope method, however I think there is some flaw in his method about calculating the house position, or may be I missed somthing. Hence I need to calculate house again. This method work very well with R,RM,R15,RM15, however not good with M and other then, mainly as former reason. For software to calculate, I try alot but not found anything, so I myself create program to use. I sure you can use Excel to generate what Bayer did in just 10 minutes, this is my opinion after done this program in 2 weeks. tuanha Reply Reply With Quote Thank for this post

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Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Originally Posted by iactnow Hello tuanha, So did you use excel or another program to generate the output, and can you give a screen shot of your output, as I might spend the time to create my own version. Here is the output screen shot. I am very appreciate any one practice this method and willing to share this program if can tell me about the way to calculate M house. To programming (C#/VB...) you need library swedll32.dll.


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Join Date Feb 2012 Posts 58 Threads Status Offline Post Thanks / Like Feedback Score 0 Mentioned 0 Post(s) Tagged 0 Thread(s) Total Downloaded 0 Thanks Tuanha, I did once write a program a few years ago in excel I think using the swedll32.dll to give me

various planetary positions to try and figure out what aspects were applying when we had turns in a stock. So as soon as I have the time I'll go through Bayer's book, I'm also consulting with a professional astrologer to help me with astrological aspects. Will contact you as soon as I've worked something out. best Wishes iactnow Originally Posted by tuanha Here is the output screen shot. I am very appreciate any one practice this method and willing to share this program if can tell me about the way to calculate M house. To programming (C#/VB...) you need library swedll32.dll.


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[QUOTE=tuanha;191445]tell me about the way to calculate M house. To programming (C#/VB...) you need library swedll32.dll. I wish I knew how to program But I can refer you to an astrology program called ASTROLOG by Walter PULLEN available at ... http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm The source code is available FREE & therefore you should be able to incorporate that info into your program. It also uses the swiss ephemeris like your program does.

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