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UPDATE: I took all of my replies and compiled them into this original post. I feel everyone asked great questions and this post wouldn't be complete without them. Here's the whole fucking thing...
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My current style of game is VERY different than it used to be. I think it goes well with my new haircut. I have long mysterious hair down to my chin now. It used to be very short.
I don't know what inspired my style to change, but it has. And for some reason it is effective.
I do 90% less than I used to. Jeffy spoke about game sometimes being a hot searing ember in the Jeffy Show I think.
Shit is SOOOOO simple. Here's what I do...
I focus on solely one thing: Eye contact.
I am verryyy sloowwwww when speaking to someone, I smile only when necessary, and speak with EXTREME surety. I say things as if I know it 100%. I say things as if my words were my little sister. Something I care for deeply.
Let's talk about my eye contact. When I look at a girl, I look at her like I am going to kill her. The entire time I am doing this. I tilt my head down a bit, and furrow my brows, especially while listening. My eyes are SLIGHTLY squinted. Like a lion going in for the kill.
I don't say much, I value brevity. I let the girl do most of the talking, though at times I do speak at length about things... but only sometimes. In other words, the girl is the one talking the most. However, I am still leading the conversation. In essence, SHE is gaming ME. I am the one who chooses if she gets lucky tonight or not. (Though do not make this OBVIOUS... it should be something subtle and in the background.)
My vibe is an obvious abundance.. as if she knows I have fucked fifty chicks before... which I have... so its not hard to communicate this vibe.
Instead of showing a high emotional state like I used to, I now have a low emotional state and sporadically PEAK my emotions in a negative way or positive way. For instance, if she says something that I notoriously don't like, I will start getting angry about it, saying the F word and talking like a sailor. This comes out of nowhere for her, so it sparks some type of receptors in her
brain. It's like a bump of cocaine. Then I'll go back down to chill. Then I might spike my emotions again but in a positive way, talking about how much I love something. This once again is like a bump for her, because I have been at a low emotional state the entire time. My emotional spikes come out of nowhere, so it is exciting for her.
It happened this weekend when I was talking to some girls with my wing in Eataly on 23rd st in NY. Every time I said the word "Fuck" and got passionate/angry about something the girls faces lit up and giggled, as if they just witnessed some of my Italian temper coming out. Like Al Pacino getting angry. Girls love this. The place where guys mess up is when they show this high emotional level at all times. It's like eating your favorite food ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY. The best tasting food in the world gets boring after having it non-stop. But once a week it will spike your emotions just like eating it for the first time. Sex addicts that have sex a few times every day no longer love the feeling of sex... it's just an empty feeling theyve become addicted to. You don't want to give the same positive or negative emotion the entire time. You want to give a range of emotions sporadically. Surprise them out of nowhere. Take them off guard. Keep them on their toes.
INTENT:
My showing of interest (intent) is different from what it used to be. I show slowww intent. One girl recently remarked as if she feels she is constantly being put on the spot to say something amazing. Not because I am saying cheesy PUA lines like "Tell me something interesting about yourself," but rather because I listen with INTENSITY. She knows I listen to every word she is saying, but I only compliment when I truly am impressed by something. If I'm not interested, it shows... subtly.
Where I used to show my SEXUAL attraction very early on, I hardly do this anymore. It takes a while for me now to show my sexual intentions, but when I do, she knows its because I am now OFFICIALLY attracted to her and I don't just go around slutting it up to any girl that passes me by. This is not to say that I don't express my sexual side. They know from the moment they lay eyes on me that I am a sexual man, but I don't show her my sexual interest until I have a real reason to. Beauty is common, and I have been with many beauties. I want her personality AND her looks to turn me on. She is coincidentally attracted to this trait.
When I finally make the moves, it's like shes been wishing for it for the past HOUR... maybe two. She has been wanting it to happen for a while, I don't just let her have it so easily. I do this because I am SOOOO unattached from the outcome and so full of abundance and SO sure that shit is going down that I don't need to rush it. She can feel this... so when we fuck... it is an avalanche of tension being released onto each other. Fucking is so much better when I make the girl sweat it out for a while. I've had girls in the past few months asking me to take them home and fuck them, because I was building up the tension so high.
They feel like they were seduced, but all I really was doing is giving rapist eye contact and speaking slowly and surely with sporadic emotional spikes in between. They do the rest.
ASSIGNMENT: I want you to experiment with this style. Then I want you to write a field report about it posting a link to it in this thread. I want to see how you faired trying this new style for yourself. It goes in hand with what Tyler has been talking about lately... DO NOT TRY. In fact, do it THIS weekend and post the findings on Sunday. We can all compare results. Acro21 wrote: How does this work for you VS. not giving a fuck?
This is not giving a fuck to the MAX. Girls can feel the abundance oozing out of me. I am so detached that I stay low energy. It's like I know they are going to fuck me so I exert the littlest amount of effort in the interaction, or at least just enough in order to have an enjoyable time with her. They're like, "This bro doesn't give a fuck." But remember, you can't be a DEAD FISH. She needs to see those consistent emotional spikes throughout the night.
And for those who want to see my hair:
2009: a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-aksnc1/v3254/197/52/33701134/n33701134_32390282_3349831.jpg 2011: dl.dropbox.com/u/3598620/ENIMAGE1300905065647.jpg AND a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hp hotos-ak-snc6/189869_649805432878_33701134_35208577_5039286_n.jpg Quote:
so how does a normal conversation go for you if you don't talk much?
This is the best question ever. Thank you for asking this. Here is a huge theory about to come down on y'all:
The goal should not be to be able to have an infinite well of conversation. The goal should be feeling comfortable with saying nothing.
Because when you feel like you have this infinite well of things to say, you will feel like you actually HAVE to say it all. And you will be scared of silence, scared in thinking that the girl only
likes when you are talking. As if only your words are what is giving "value". That has nothing to do with it. I met a girl like that a week ago, she just never stopped talking. She felt I wouldn't like her anymore if she stopped talking, as if her life energy ends as she closes her mouth. I eventually was able to open the real side of her, and made her feel comfortable only talking when she felt like it, which was a win/win situation for the both of us.
Jeffy talks about brevity, and that it is better to say something in the least amount of words rather than something longer, because you have less of a chance to say something stupid. I like that, and I think his theory goes even deeper than that. I only feel the need to say shit when I am interested. If I am not, I either speak briefly about it, change the subject, or if it is going somewhere really uninteresting, then I will say, "This is boring, let's talk about something fun." Aside from that, my natural state is to say nothing. And it's funny to watch a girl become attracted to me by not saying anything, not doing anything, just relaxing in the moment with her. It's a freeing feeling for her, because everyone else is blabbing away, you are just being comfortable with her in the moment.
The idea is that your presence is all the value you need. Think of your presence like the holy light where its power is as strong as the heat of the sun. I guess that's what they mean by nimbus, your PRESENCE.
NOW.
To answer the dude that says "James Bond" in the club doesn't work, it probably doesn't. I don't
know. Maybe you should try it. Can you honestly see TIm doing this style of game anyway? I think he thrives in high energy game, which works for him. His smile is really all he needs to woo girls (pun intended).
Tell me, think of a big attractive body builder type guy. Think of him approaching a girl in a club. Do you see him jumping around with a big stinking smile on his face, keeping "high energy" FOR the lady? Or do you think he already knows he's getting laid, so he doesn't work very hard?
This is not to say he doesn't have emotional spikes like dancing around with her, or screaming at the top of his lungs, but his default state is SHEG.
IMAGINE THAT YOU KNEW YOU COULD GET LAID BY ANY CHICK YOU WANTED IN THE CLUB THAT NIGHT. HOW WOULD YOUR GAME LOOK? Quote: also, how is this suppose to work if you're short and you like going after girls taller than you? if you're looking down, eye contact is going to be difficult.
I have been into girls that are taller than me lately. I am 5'8" (172cm), I still give off that hard vibe. Think of Sean Penn. Bro is short as hell. But when he walks into a room, everyone stops and looks. Bro is hard. Not cuz he's famous, but cuz he's fuckin Sean Penn.
Look at how tall he is:
I like being my height. Now stop giving pussy excuses and go slay those victoria secret models that tower above you. She'll respect you more for it.
Look what I found. Goto 1:00 in the video:
Dale Cooper wrote: Nice man. Cool to see that Patrick Bateman picture posted, I've always been using that pic as a perfect example. Still a few questions.. when the point has come where you DO show your attraction.. how are you showing it?
Just by being physical, so to kind of reward her with your touch? Or.. are you pretty much physical throughout the entire conversation and you show her your attraction by verbalizing it. Anyway, cool can't wait to try this.
It's a very weird dynamic.
Let me be 100% clear about this. I am extremely high standards for personality. So even though I am LAZER-focused on the girl, I only show my SEXUAL attraction towards her when it is warranted.
I show it with my words and with my touch.
"I find that sexy about you," and then I will maybe put my hand behind her head and grab some hair, move my head in real slow near her face as if I'm about to kiss her, then pull away and continue on with the conversation.
It won't be until a while when I actually go in for a makeout.
Remember, this is a STYLE of game. This is not the end all be all. Jeffy goes for makeouts as soon as possible. He has hardcore game. I LOVE that style as well, when I'm in that kind of mood. But if you are feeling in a low energy mood, SHEG is definitely a good idea.
I am making the girl YEARN for my dick. I make her sweat it out. I show my attraction when she truly deserves it.
We can talk about anything, because all conversation is interesting when I am looking at her like a fucking lion. As long as I am super passionate and devoted to my words, shit will sound good.
I learned this from Gary Vaynerchuk. This motherfucker BRINGS THE THUNDER whenever he speaks. HE OWNS IT. Here is a vid of him talking about building a brand: vimeo.com/9185295
Here is him at a Web 2.0 conference. He tears new assholes every time he is asked to speak.
We are going out and MEETING PEOPLE. You have years and years of experience and an identity about yourself that you've been forming throughout your life. Be proud of that shit. Own it hard. Girls get wet over that shit. Show them that you control your own reality, because girls NEED something to believe in. Chicks have a reality built on a mound of sand. It changes with the wind. But your reality is like a searing hot ember. They need that rock to know that they are alive.
So when you emotionally spike, I want you to bring the thunder like Gary V. does. To get back to the question, when you show your intent, show it FUCKING hard, then pull it away. Then show it hard again, and then pull her into the bathroom. Fred E. Rick wrote: Sebastian_Flyte wrote: Top stuff, my friend - it all makes super-sense. How does this work in day game would you say, when girls are scurrying about like ants shopping, on their way to meet friends, walking around campus etc. instead of them being in the confined environments of a club for 2-3 hours? I find that you need to keep chatting just to keep them right infront of you once you've stopped them - or am I wrong? In such circumstances, would you still use such hardcore physical escalation to show your sexual intent, or just reward them with words to show the girl you are into her? If so, and you wait before you show the girl you are attracted to her, do you just open her indirectly/situationally? Thanks for your time.
I have the same question.
Self-limiting thoughts. I never have a problem with any of these things.
You guys are still caught up with what to say. STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT TO SAY. Start focusing on being comfortable saying nothing.
With the intent, you simply calibrate to the situation. Every situation is different, and I do something different during each.
I do whatever I feel at the moment. It doesn't matter how I approach. As long as I approach.
You guys are taking a simple style of game, and trying to pick it apart. It's hard to get this shit wrong.
Side story: I met up with a girl from the bar today... we were off to have an adventure in Manhattan. But she bored me the entire time. So I hardly looked at her, hardly showed her any interest, treated her exactly as what she IS: some random girl I met at a bar.
She talked the entire time, and all of it was boring. So I never showed any interest. It was more like I was on an adventure, and she came along with me. I flirted with some hired guns, tried on a women's tank top in the middle of a clothing store (fuck dressing rooms), bought a pickle and ate it, and she just witnessed my awesomeness. She could tell I wasn't very interested in her, so she decided to go home and grade papers early. I went to a mediterranean restaurant then chilled at a cafe for an hour sipping tea and chatted with a 5 yr old about our favorite numbers.
Moral of the story: The chick knows I have high standards. My RAS is specific, and I only pay attention to things that I am interested in. If I am not interested in something, it goes off the RAS radar, and I ignore it. I have banged way too many chicks to pay attention to less than exceptional. If I'm bored, the person knows it. But if I am interested, they more than know it.
Basically, she knows I didn't choose her. When she accepted this, she left.
In this style of game, I have that SUPER abundance mentality that Tyler was talking about a few weeks back. I could give a shit if a girl likes me or not, I'm just gonna be chill and do what I want.
YaBoiRayDawg wrote: a request - could you upload more pics of the look you describe? i tried to do it, but i just end up looking mean.
The SHEG facial expression:
Keep practicing it, you will get better as you do it more and more.
Another thing: Anger is expressed mainly around the mouth. When you tighten/purse your lips, especially your upper lip, this is a sign of anger. We are not trying to express anger towards the girl. Notice how Tom's mouth is relaxed, neutral. His eyes are doing all the talking. Sternness is shown with the eyes. Also, anger is also shown with a crinkled nose. Tom isn't crinkling his nose, that is also neutral and relaxed. Once again, passion and 'determination' are expressed in the eyes. I do this whenever I'm listening to ANYONE. It shows I am listening FULLY and with 100% focus. There is nothing else I am focused on except for the persons words and facial expressions. Everything else is blocked out. When you listen like this, the other person feels important, because you are giving them undying attention. When you respond, you can give this same look, with the same passion, except you are focused on expressing, instead of listening.
Last point. Instead of solely focusing on how you LOOK when in this state, imagine how you FEEL. When you feel the right way, the facial expressions and body language will adjust properly. The emotion is 100% surety in your words, their words, and your sexual intent. When you are looking at the girl, imagine grabbing her like a beast and making out with her right there. How does that make you feel? Like a fucking man? That's the way I want you express. Frank TJ Mackey will live through you.
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That's it guys! If you have any more quetions, feel free to ask, I will answer them as well as possible, just as long as it hasn't been covered already. So if you haven't read the entire thing, do so before asking a question or thinking logically. And please, don't ask "situational" questions, like, "Can I use this at a coffee shop? What about when approaching from behind?" This is a style of game, it may not be for everyone, and it may not be for every environment. It is something I use when I am in a low frequency state of mind. This is just a simple alternative approach to what most peeps are talking about lately. If you feel obligated to turn into Evil Stifler every time you go out, SHEG may be a fun new thing to try. Enjoy! __________________ I now live in BKLN.
