Older Guys

Getting Younger Younger Girls As An Older Guy

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To : From : Re :

Professional Coworkers, Male and Female BlueRibbon Older Guys and Younger Women: my routine for slamming the issue that I’m 55 and she’s only 22 years old

Date :

May 2, 2005

So you’re 55 years old and you’ve met a beautiful, 22 year old woman. You You want to develop an exciting, passionate, vibrant sexual sexual relationship with her her.. A predictable element element of this story will will be that at some point she will raise the issue of age, as in “I don’t date date old men,” and you’ll have to deal with it. Or Or,, get to deal with it. Follow my guidance and your advanced age becomes a great advantage. Not sure that you, as a man over 50, should even consider dating younger women? Is it a matter of ethics, culture, or one of possibilities open to you? you? While the short answer is, “an intelligent 60 year old who makes makes a point of picking up basic gaming skills can easily date [meaning, enjoy mutual, enthusiastic sex with] women age 20-25,” I expand on this unfamiliar notion for those in doubt in an appendix to this memo. If you already believe that you are entitled to date any woman you want, even those so young or beautiful as to be seen as “out of your league” by misinformed neighbors, then you can probably use some guidance on how to get past objections to your age. I have experimented with methods to make age a non-issue in pickup interactions and offer my experiences. I’ll assume that you have some minimal “Game”; that is, you understand basic seduction theory as espoused on Fastseduction.com Fastseduction.com or by David DeAngelo, Mystery Mystery,, Style and similar teachers. teachers. If, on the other hand, you have no idea what “Game” is and this requirement requirement is a mystery to you, then this memo will be premature. premature. Get game first—learn the Science of Pickup—and this memo will round out your education.

Notes on Age Limits: the “Envelope” Age 55 is not the upper upper limit by any means. I am simply age 55 writing this. Indications are are that everything here will work just as well for a guy 78 years old so long as he remains intellectually active, sexually capable, and either possess now, or determines to develop, the necessary pickup “gaming” skills to make a woman attracted to him. If you’re 78 years old, substitute in your mind “78 years old” old” wherever I make reference reference to a younger male reader … and then write me about your experiences [“field reports”] so I can include them in the next edition of this memo. As an aside, I watched watched a 78 year old retired retired airline pilot run his “habitual” game, without seemingly noticing noticing that he was still doing it, routinely capturing the attention attention of women 19 to 22 years years old. One pretty little little grocery store clerk immediately asked around to discover his name and then phoned, while I was visiting him, on the pretext that he had left pocket change at the store and she wanted to return it to him! This shit works.

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Getting Started First steps remain unchanged. unchanged. I’ll assume you you found, met, opened, transitioned, transitioned, and have worked your atattraction game to the point where the target (the pretty thing that just happens to be much younger than you) is now interested in you—but she has begun to shit-test you on your age and you note this is where things are likely to start coming apart. E.g., “Ew. “Ew. Old men are icky!” may be right around the corner cor ner.. So. What do you do next?

Handle the Age Issue I ssue for Her Benefit and Yours Yours AA single woman in isolation is not the problem because if she is attracted to me, nothing else matters. It is up to me to prosecute the contact in a way that I do not overstep her developing attraction for me, and that I manage my behavior so that she feels safe where she needs to feel safe, “threatened” where she wants to feel “threatened” (which relates to her need for exciting sex, and in no way suggests violence or meanness on my part), and that I remain high value, value, interesting, and non- needy. needy. Standard attraction material works well. 1 I am cool and I can walk away. away. I am the Tao Tao of Steve. If this is how our relationship develops over the first few minutes and hours, then then age is not likely to be an issue. As the cliché goes, it’s it’s a matter of Mind over Matter: “If she don’t Mind then it don’t Matter.” Matter.” Next, the age issue arises quite predictably predictably when gaming a 2-set or 3-set, and is invoked typically not by the target (who is “getting into me”) but by one of her obstacles, who suddenly dislikes my presence because she, too, was getting into me but now perceives that I am focused on her girlfriend such that (1) she loses the prize, me, at the same time she is threatened with (2) losing her girlfriend, the target, to me and with it (3) the good vibe she has been enjoying with her girlfriend. A 2-set is much more problematic problematic than a 3-set or larger because the loser-obstacle loser-obstacle will be left lonely after the target seeks isolation with me. I know that it will be the obstacle that will shit test test me on age, and so I can expect the attack from from her. her. Handle the obstacle and the interaction with your target will continue.

Statistical Norms I acknowledge that not all girls in their twenties will respond to to a man man nearly 60 years old, but enough will that it makes virtually no difference to my perceived outcome. If a third will never consider “dating” a man my age, then a third will after a period of babysitting adjustment as they grow into the thought, and a third will ignore the age thing altogether altogether and go for it if their emotions tell them to. If you’re a 60 year old man (or even much older) and you have some adequate gaming skills, you will never have to sleep alone, or in the alternative, never be without one or multiple girlfriends.

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Attraction is a subject which could easily divert this memo by several hundred pages as it it is a major topic worthy of major—but major—but separate—study. How do you act, what do you say to get and keep her “into” you, after you have found her? If you already have Attraction Theory down cold, congratulations; if not, and if this subject is a mystery to you, you’ll have to dedicate major study to learning it before you continue. This memo, then, is not about about how you gain attraction but a series of assurances that if your previouslky previouslky acquired skill at gaining attraction is otherwise good, you’ll be able to pull it off quite easily with women much younger than you.


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The fact is that if a woman is in a headspace where she can’t picture you as her lover, possibly because of age, then that is her issue and not yours. She loses out on me, the best lover she ever ever might have had if only she hadn’t been so narrow, stupid, and unlucky. unlucky. As an operational matter, matter, I will open many but end up prosecuting only those that turn into me and engage. Thus my approach and technique is entirely entirely selfcorrecting. The best I can do is preserve my status with the younger, stupid ones by leaving them with something like, “Pleasure for you to meet me” and politely disengaging. With luck they will either see me later as pre-selected by other women, often physically hotter than they were, and they may later change their minds and re-open me. This business of “keeping options open” must be automatic, bearing in mind that it may pay off off months or years later later.. Some women just need some time to think about it. I’m 55. I’m patient. patient. I have the time.

Prior Method of Dealing with the Age Issue: Methods I Don’t Like David DeAngelo, from his lofty perch of 33 years of age (!), suggested that when the girl asks for your age your options are limited. He said this is how he handles it. First, it is a shit test and one way of handling it is to ignore ignore it or pretend you didn’t hear the question. question. Shit tests truly do not require that that you pay attention to them. I don’t like this approach because because while this technique works with neutral subject shit tests (on subjects other than age), not answering the age question makes you look as though you’re ashamed of being older. You lose. Second, when she demands, “How old are you anyway?” you can fire back a dominant (and as they say, not domineering) counter-question, counter-question, “How much do you weigh?” While this is funny it tends to kill the good vibe you were working on, plus it also sounds like you’re you’re hiding something. Worse, if she answers, answers, “126 lbs!” then you have to be ready to fire back back your actual age, “64 years old!” with equal or greater greater enthusiasm. Risky Risky,, and in the best of circumstances a little too too harsh. It does offer the advantage advantage of making her jump through your hoop before you jump through hers. Third, others have suggested that if you look good you can lie, where the most common lied about age is 39. Yeah, right. As if she’d she’d believe that. that. Plus that would would make me seem seem as though though I had something something to hide, and that I am ashamed of my age as being somehow disqualifying. So while I have lied about my age on the older side I have never never lied on the young side, side, and never will. Wea Weak. k. Fourth, DeAngelo says he will look the girl straight in the eye and calmly answer, answer, “Old enough … to know … not to answer … THAT THAT kind of question!” Of course, in this delivery your vocal tonality tonality is key. key. If the girl restates the question you have set up an argument which can do nothing but kill the vibe and make you look weak. This has all the weaknesses of the other other answers above, which means it is not an effective effective answer for managing your game. Fifth, it is always good policy before you answer any of her questions to consider whether she is shit testing you with “interview-type” questions, questions, or what Mystery called, “Questions “Questions o’ Death.” If these questions come

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fairly early in your interaction, before she has started what feels like the “melting into me” phase of comfort building (or into rapport, where the real game takes place), then the questions are certainly of the “qualifying frame” type which you cannot allow to get get started. So to prevent the feeling from from taking root that she is the interviewer and you are the interviewee, nip it in the bud by making her jump through one of your hoops before you jump through hers. Her: “How old are you, anyway?” Me: “Guess. If you’re close, maybe I’ll tell you.” Her : “37” [obviously guessing low] Me: “Wow! That’s SO amazing! — NO.” [humor]

With this routine, routine, you can can either game off the answer or tell tell her your age, your choice. But even this was suboptimal as it did not deal with the shit test side of it, to demonstrate a natural alpha dominance over the person who puts that shit test to you. Of all the conventional methods of dealing with the shit tested age issue, this started out as the best. Sixth is the direct approach my buddy suggests, which is to announce, “I’m FIFTYFIFTY- SIX. Yeah, yeah, I know I look younger than that and I LOVE THAT ABOUT MYSELF.” The key is to be over-the-top self-confident, and he says it reduces the shit-test to a footnote.

Pace of Rapport “The game is played played in rapport.” If you are an older older guy you should plan on hovering longer in rapport. rapport. There is a tricky balance to explain because on the one hand you don’t want too move too quickly that a “possible” gets scared away (and reports to her friends that “that older guy tried something creepy on me”), but you need to keep the sense of escalation escalation going so that she doesn’t get get bored or lose interest interest in you. Some women are easy this way; others, their “comfort” and “too fast” curves never cross and there is no solution set possible, in which case you politely excuse yourself to prosecute other contacts, use her as a pawn, or LJBF her to gain access to her friends, or for future use as pivot. I discovered that in successful game I was occasionally noting that rapport was going flat, and so would go back into Mystery’s Mystery’s A2 and DHV a little more. This is a consequence of women being generally generally attracted but occasionally taking notice of age, and then compensating for that. (If anyone sorts this out theoretically theoretically,, or can offer some practical experience in this rapport building phase, please let know so I can add it to this memo.)

BlueRibbon’s Age Routine: What You Came To Learn Assume you have gamed gamed a 2-set (FF) and things have been going going pretty good. good. Both girls are laughing and touching you and having a good time, and there’s a good vibe going with both of them. You have decided


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to focus on one, and get her to self-extract with you, so it is time to let this 2-set know or figure out who the winner is and who the loser is. This is a tough time, and uncomfortable for all concerned, because because the girl who loses is not only losing you, the cool guy, but she is losing her girl friend and the cool vibe they had going. The loser girl knows she will have to walk home alone, and and will experience a humiliating deep funk. While there are exceptions to this rule, most obstacle-loser girls do not like to be the loser loser.. I know that shortly after focusing on one girl, the target—which I try to do very subtly, but there is no subtlety in love—the obstacle is going to try to break us up by shit testing me, so that I will go away and she can resume her vibe with the target target girl. The best way to attack attack me without being obvious is to ask me my age. I know this, and she knows this, so the only question is, Who gets to trigger the question? Since I like to be in control of the interaction (and at this juncture I start thinking of it as being in control of the combat), I want to be the one that controls controls exactly when she pops the age issue shit test. test. Properly done, she will know, falsely but with very high confidence, that she thought of the shit test all by herself, with no input from me at all, and that it is all 100% her idea. All by herself she thinks up and executes this oh-so- clever attack. attack. In reality, reality, I 2 am pulling the trigger. To pull the trigger and get the obstacle to act, two things must occur occur.. First, you must have switched your focus to the target so that the target knows you find her sexy and that you see her as a potential sex partner. partner. Specifically,, I have made my Juggler SOI [Statement of Intent] to the target. (I am also thinking at this point, Specifically as part of my mind-set, “so long as you play your cards cards right.”) This requires the obstacle obstacle to note that she is not the target or potential sex partner, partner, and thus to feel a range of emotions centered first on alarm, then disappointment, then anger, anger, and then the worry of an impending humiliation and isolation that she desperately wants to avoid. Good. It was inevitable. And since it was inevitable we must accept accept this fact and and deal with it, since we now have locked in the coming age shit test. At this point we don’t know exactly exactly when, and the obstacle may not have even thought of the disruptive shit test she will use, so we must seize control and make the age shit test happen. In this way we deal with the obstacle’s obstacle’s shit test and the age issue in one fell swoop. We trigger the age issue shit test by clearly mentioning something that is so outrageously historical, old, and before their respective respective births that neither can ignore the the fact you said it. It can be true or made up; it can be reasonable or ridiculously long ago. So long as it was before their births they will not listen to the actual fact but be occupied—even overwhelmed—with the idea of you being older than their grandfathers!

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If this principle of “I pull the trigger on her assault” assault” sounds like martial arts, it is. In the successful stand-up ght, your adversary should feel as though he has decided what technique to throw when in fact I have manipulated his weight, foot position, and the apparent targets available on me so that that thought is the only one that can occur to him. As in the seduction or social arts, this further ensures that that technique he then throws, but which I have designed for him, will completely fail him. And the fact it feels as though I have been pulling his strings during a dangerous and stressful event (for him, anyway) gives me a certain intellectual satisfaction that is hard to describe.

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Examples: “But you see that was when I was a child, before electricity was invented.” “That reminds me of when I served with General Washingto Washington n during the American Revolutionary War … a cold and difficult time.” “You have it easy! When I went to college there were no cars. There were trains, sure, but they were big smoky, smoky, cumbersome affairs. affairs. So I much prefer the silent gliding along in traffic of the Mercedes Benz to that rude clattering from my m y youth.” “That’s not true: I remember exactly where I was, how I felt, when I heard “That’s h eard that President Kennedy [or Garfield, or even Lincoln] had been shot!” All of these remarks remarks are clearly clearly gross exaggerations! exaggerations! I was born in 1950 and the world already had computers, atomic bombs, jet aircraft, aircraft, color movies, telephones, telephones, and sex toys. In retrospect you you can bust on them for their gullibility, but for now have faith that if you set up the obstacle correctly, correctly, your age issue shit test is only milliseconds away: Her : [Blurting out] “How old are you, anyway?”

But now you are ready for her! You must respond without delay, but in a voice that is at least 20% slower than the girls’ voices, and with great pride and volume in your voice. You must swell up your chest in an exaggerated “power” posture and proudly announce: You : “I’m SIXTY SEVEN years old!”

This is not true, of course. You are much younger younger than this. At the time I came came up with this idea I was was 52 years old, decided on its possible efficacy only by eliminating everything else that was known not to work, and ended up with this. To my real age I added the impossible figure of 15 years years to make it 67. In what type of voice do you announce this? Think of a 4 year old boy who has just learned to hold up 4 fingers when asked his age, and hear his response: response: “I am FOUR years old!” Use that attitude, tone, and and voice. Why do they believe you? Lots of old lamers have h ave lied about their age by saying they were younger than they were and in so doing condemning themselves to losing. But no one has ever said something as im probable as “I’m 67!” and so they can accept it at face value. value. But what you are really really saying by the tone of your voice is, “I am high value, and this is the highest value age any human could be!” This gambit is an exercise in frame control. control. If you are okay with something then the girl is going to to be okay with it, no matter how freaky or counter counter-intuitive -intuitive the issue. Wome Women n are wired this way. 3 Say it proudly and you establish the frame that being 67 is something to be massively proud of, and she cannot object without


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sounding petty, petty, foolish, uninformed, and wrong. The curious thing is what happens next: the girls will stare at you and do what I call “the Female Control-AltDelete.” They re-boot. re-boot. You see, up until this point they held two irreconcilable irreconcilable beliefs. beliefs. First, that they were were getting into me and seeing me as an exciting, valuable, current, and possibly available sex partner. partner. Second, that they did not fuck guys older than their grandfathers! grandfathers! The way they deal with this is to do what only can be called a mental re-boot of their operating operating system. (As a man, I have never felt this but have only observed observed it in women. It seems to be a case where emotions versus logic confront each other, other, and the emotion crushes logic’ss attempted interference with feeling good and is thus overridden.) logic’ Here’s what the Female Control-Alt-Dele Here’s Control-Alt-Delete, te, brain re-boot looks like: their stare goes blank, they blink hard and very slowly, slowly, twice, and then after a few seconds (of what they describe as “having to think about it”) life returns to their face, they smile, and they are happy again. To me it seems as though the clean re-boot has left them with only the first belief, that they are into me, and that the second obstructive belief has been banished like a bad virus. But you’re not through, yet. The obstacle has some more managing to be done. When they come back from their re-boots, the obstacle will now say something, again, that she thinks she thought of and which seems really original to her. her. Of course, we know it is coming so just smile like the alpha male you you are and wait: Her: “Gee, you look pretty good for 67 …”

It is appropriate to lightly punish her for shit testing you, while retaining your strength, dignity, dignity, and polite demeanor. You will set her straight by slightly frowning, disapprovingly, disapprovi ngly, and saying: You: “Excuse me but I look pretty good for ANY AGE.”

If the obstacle only nods and seems properly cowed 4 it is now time to pull her back into your circle a little by adding this half-thought, which gives her something to hang onto: You: “It’s good DNA …”

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Frame control, where your comfort discussing something becomes her comfort, just as your discomfort signals her discomfort, too, logic aside, is useful when later discussing sexual practices with which she might not yet be familiar, like anal sex. Remember: if you’re cool and comfortable and not “freaked out” by a subject, then she will also be cool and comfortable about that subject. But if you get all freaky about something truly benign, like holding her hand, she will get freaky … and reject your move. 4

On the other hand if the obstacle is not cowed and just continues an unrelenting barrage of snotty shit tests, you may have entered into a Banter Battle during which you can still achieve ascendancy over her by being better at the battle than she is, and therefore a cooler person than she is. This gives you a solid second chance chance at recovery and carrying the day with the target. target. See the appendix on Generic Shit Test Methodology for guidance.

This suggests a natural, physical physical superiority on your part which is not a bad thing to add in itself. Plus you are letting her off the hook by saying it in an upbeat u pbeat manner. manner. Both girls will nod as though approving of your explanation, but in reality you have just initiated a shift into sex talk because of the way girls think.

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Yes, I know that you you know everything there there is to know about DNA. Deoxy- ribonucleic acid. Watson-Cric Watson-Crick k complementary pairs. The Double Helix. Adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymine. But she knows none of this, because when it was taught in high school she wasn’t wasn’t really listening listening but doing her nails. So she can only pretend to understand what you meant by saying “It’s good DNA …” Except that she is a big fan of CSI: Miami and to her DNA in every episode means only one thing: semen. Sex. Some guy cumming on or near the body. body. “Samples.” She drifts off off and thinks about about you cumming on her, or in her. her. A pleasant, warm fantasy. So while you are offering a conciliatory explanation explan ation of why you look so good for being “67,” she is thinking about sex, semen, and getting horizontal with you. You have reached an important juncture in the game: do you want to next her her,, because she is not really up to your standards? To end the game you can let the interaction expire expire naturally. naturally. Or do you want to advance her 5 and shift the game to sex talk? If you want to transition to sex talk, answer their unspoken question: You: “So … what? Did you want a sample?”

This pokes fun at their sexual state, setting and reinforcing the frame that they want you and makes it clear that you understand them, can read that they are feeling sexual, and that you approve of them feeling sexual towards you. you. The game is now clearly on. They should laugh with that “OMG I’m feeling so sexual” face they display, and if you like you can feign a misunderstanding when you “suddenly” realize that they were thinking about SEX and pretend that you only meant to offer them a hair plucked from your head (e.g., “for a locket, to hold against your heart that you can feel my strength and safety when you need it”)! You: “OMG! I just realized, like, you’re having impure thoughts! thoughts! Ughh. Now I feel dirty, used. Like a mere sex object for you to fantasize about. Oh, I need a shower. shower. Or a beer. Go buy me a beer, stat!”

A friend suggests his follow-on to the “It’ “It’ss good DNA …” line: line: “At least I’m strengthening the gene pool. And you?” This is an expression of of supreme selfself- confidence so it could fit in anywhere. anywhere. I can think of a dozen more ways to riff off this but the goal is to keep the discussion playful, light, humorous, sexual, a little outrageous; and making certain they realize you approve of them chasing you.

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The Alternative View: “Fuck her anyway, even if she’s not in MENSA.”


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Supportive Technique Technique to Reinforce Frame if Interaction Begins to Stale Out There are times when the interaction is going as well as can be expected, but it seems that she is becoming, well, distracted. It might be that for her this is the first time she has been with a man whose very existence existence proposes a new experience—that of age and sexual experience where she feels out of her depth, unskilled, not up to the task, task, or even amateurish. amateurish. How to bring her back? back? You: “Look, I know you’re getting into me …” Her:“Whaaa …?” You: “Yeah …you’re into me, it’s obvious … Touching my arm, laughing at my jokes, doing that hair thing … you’re into me. Her: “Oh, yeah, right.” or “I am not … that … into you” or blah, blah, blah. You: “I get this all the time, so it’s alright … but I’ve got to tell you, you’re not doing that good with me right now … so if you want to have any chance of taking me home later on? Well, you’d better start getting your act together. You: “So let’s make a good start on that … tell you what, go get me a beer (or order me a glass of wine) and we’ll talk about it … You: [Gesturing with your hand] “Come on. Let’s go. Go …”

As silly as this seems, it is funny, funny, establishes you as as the dominant party, party, sets the proper proper frame, and most important tells the girl exactly what simple simple task she has to perform in order to seal the deal with with you. Plus, it is sufficiently innocuous that she can do it in front of friends without leaking to them her attraction to you.

Addendum: Re-frame Her Age as Older Older,, in “Woman “Woman Years” Years” Sometime s a full-on Sometimes full- on response isn’t necessary, necess ary, as when a woman pops p ops the statement statement,, “You’re “You’re WAAAY too old for me, by the way way,” ,” at the last minute, or sometimes right in the middle of an interaction. You must divine what she really means by this before responding, although your response must be immediate. Is it a shit test, where she’s she’s nasty? If so, you can say something in the strongly strongly re-framing category category such as: You: “It’s alright. I know you’re feeling … insecure. But as long as you stay close to me, and I approve of you, and you continue to be seen as being in my favor … you’ll feel stronger.” You: “Whoa. I know you’re attracted to me … no, don’t try to hide it, it’s obvious … laughing at my jokes, the sexy eye contact … it’s obvious … but blurting out a Tourette’s thing isn’t the … smoothest way to announce it.”

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If she had been in pretty good rapport with you and this sudden objection is a little surprising coming from her,, assume she is impliedly asking the question, “You her “You won’t embarrass me in front of my friends, because they won’t understand how cool you are, will you?” In this case, give her a discrete “knowing” smile that transmits, “Yeah, “Yeah, I own you, don’t I, princess?” and consider extracting her for game continuation in a less intrusive environment; basically, away from here. My favorite method of dealing with this question, assuming she is testing out of her own insecurity, insecurity, is to point out that adjusting for “woman years” you are actually much younger than she! When she blurts out something off-topic, like Her : “You’re waaaay too old for me …”

you look calmly at her and let a few seconds of silence build before you answer, You: “Weeelllll … that was random. Was that a Tourette’s thing? But of course, in ‘woman years’ we both know you’re actually much older than I am …”

As an aside, young young women have a “personal “personal desirability horizon” which extends just 2 years years from their current current age. That is, an 18 year old girl believes that while she now has an an excellent body, body, in just 2 years she’ll exhaust that limited commodity of her youth and be reduced to one of the haggard old 20 year olds she sees hanging around the campus. If she is 20 she believes she has achieved an attractive balance of body, body, beauty, beauty, and personality—but in just 2 short years those qualities will have completely played themselves out and she will be left, bereft of all that men find desirable, just as with all those 22 year old girls hanging h anging out in the office cafeteria. And so forth. Twenty-eight Twenty-eight year old girls feel feel they can hold it together a little while longer, longer, given their new, aggressive, aggressive, and sexual personae … but in just 2 short years they face the impending horror of that slouching senility that represents their future 30 year old self! Thus, the “woman years” defense strikes deeper and instantaneously more emotionally emotionally than any man could ever understand. Use it carefully. carefully.

Distraction Issue: Her So-Called Preferences, vs Attraction “Attraction isn’t isn’t a choice” says David DeAngelo. If a girl does not feel attraction for a man then no amount of appeal to her logical brain will make her feel that overwhelming overwhelming desire to be with him. But in the opposite case, where she does feel attraction, no logical appeal to the contrary—that he will be bad for her her,, that he is from “the wrong side of the tracks” and so forth—can prevent her from acting on that attraction. Our goal is to generate attraction by discovering and acknowledging the woman’s emotional needs, including for sex [with you] and excitement, while not acting in a needy or creepy way. Unfortunately, women will often interpose at first, before they have been given the opportunity to feel Unfortunately, attraction for us, that we do not meet their “preferences” “preferences” qualifications. qualifications. Generally this is stated stated as some variation of tall, dark and handsome. “You’re “You’re not my type.” But the cool thing is that while women sincerely believe that their preferences are are a powerful determinant they end up having virtually no influence as they yield to the excitement of their biological attraction mechanism!


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How do you handle it? Well, treat treat statements of their preferences preferences as the shit tests tests they are. Cute, but a little annoying. Then keep doing attraction material until she is giggling giggling that she’s she’s never met a man like you before … and all that nonsense of preferences is once again set aside in favor of her attraction for you.

Escalation: Getting Her to Kiss You You need to escalate and kissing is on your agenda. You are still carefully calibrating calibrating the situation and taking things at a slightly slower pace, but let us assume you calculate that she is ready and needs kissing to keep the interaction from going stale. You’re right about this, of course. Time to kiss. So how do you go about about it? One simple technique is to start by giving her the Hug Test, which works when you starting getting Indicators of Interest [“IOIs”] soon after meeting her and where the “playfulness factor” is moderate m oderate to high. This Hug Test Test routine is a great way to begin getting physical with a woman while showing personality and sub-communicating that you are screening for particular qualities in the women you date. It also implies that you and her are having a flirtatious, as opposed to platonic, conversation, which can help you avoid the “friend zone.” “Okay. We’ve been talking for ve minutes, and I want to be sure I’m not wasting my time. Hug test.”

(She responds.) “Blah, blah, blah … blah.” “I have to see if you can hug worth a damn, otherwise I have to stick you in the friend zone. So you better give it your all.”

When you hug her she always gets a “B minus.” If she is annoyed with the substandard rating, tell her do to it again; she’ll almost always give an amazing hug, for which you can give her a reluctant “A.” It’s just a couple of sentences and seems innocuous It’s inn ocuous on the surface, but like all good routines, it’s quite powerful. It gets gets you you touching. touching. It gets you leading. leading. It gets gets her trying to to live up to your standards. It establishes a romantic/flirtatious vibe instead of a “friend” situation. All in a couple of sentences, doing something silly that won’t trigger any alarm bells. 6 There may be times when the Hug Test Test doesn’t really fit, in which case you can start with various Hands Tests. Her hand will never lie about her interest in you and there there are at least two ways ways to get there. First, you want to be touching her arm right from the beginning. beginning. It should go without saying that you’re you’re not pawing at her and it should appear natural. If you do it to everyone, women you’re you’re interested in as well as not, and and frequently men as well, then you have an idea of the natural touch.

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See “Mystery Method - The Routines Book (2007).pdf” and “Love Systems – Magic Bullets.pdf” for hundreds of more great routines to

use as icebreakers and to accelerate your game.

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kind of response did you get? If she jerks away, away, she is simply not ready ready yet. Move back up the arm, do some more natural touching, and try again again in :05 minutes. If you’re getting some attraction attraction signals, some IOIs from from her,, then she’ll probably be aware of her earlier reaction and be looking forward to a warmer one the next her time. The best reaction is where she lightly squeezes your hand, or either interlocks her fingers with yours or allows you to do this momentarily momentarily.. But only momentarily! Do not give her enough enough time for her defenses defenses to creep in, and then you must separate your hands after a short while so that she feels good about the physical contact but is left wanting more. You can repeat the hands test in a few seconds. seconds. If she allows your hands to touch and stay there but is otherwise neutral, you have some more work in attraction to do. As before, attract then wash, rinse, repeat until you get the response you’re you’re looking for. for. One advantage of the hands test is that unlike kissing, she can lightly contact and then hold your hand concealed from the view of her friends, whom she is not sure will judge you as highly as she feels for you at that moment. Simply pull her hand behind you, then hold it for a moment. One method for getting there there is to “High Five” her lightly at shoulder height, then at the moment of contact take her hand and while holding it, pull it down so your arm is around her and your hands are holding each other in the small of her back, out of sight of her friends and a “secret” the two of you share for the moment. Remember: the hands never lie. If she is getting into you, she will want to explore explore hand touching and her eagerness signals that you are ready to move on. Second, there is Mystery’s Mystery’s “subtext” method of hands testing which works great but requires a little more speaking skill, stage presence, presence, and self-control. self-control. Since these are all qualities an an older guy should be DHVing to the target woman, this should not be considered a negative. When talking about some subject, since you’ll be carrying the wood 90% in this conversation, simply hold your hands out in front of you palms up. Make sure that your words words and this action are entirely entirely unrelated: it should look as though your hands appeared in front of you all by themselves. This is an implicit invitation to the girl to do something, which is to place her hands in yours palm down, or palm-to-palm. If she does, then that is a strong IOI. Squeeze Squeeze her hands lightly for a second, then lightly “throw them down” as though dropping them. This gets you the best of both words: she has the experience of touch, and she is left wanting more. If she holds her hands out in front of her, her, not touching yours but palm up, mirroring your posture—she is not yet into you at all but being polite. Amp it up or eject. If she interrupts you and and asks, “What are are you doing with your hands?!” be prepared to treat it as a mildly rude interruption, and say, “What? Oh this? That’s all subtext. Now—I was saying …” and finish your conversational conversational distraction thread. thread. She may still reach out and take your hands, and in so doing, mission accomplished. So you’re successful successful at your hands test? Good. Press on with the escalation escalation to get her to kiss you. One major difference between the young man and the older man at this juncture is that the older man can


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anticipate one response response that younger men rarely get. If using Mystery’s Mystery’s kiss routine, which is to ask her, her, “Oh. Did you want to kiss me?”, younger men can expect one of three answers. One, she can say “Yes” “Yes” in which case you just lean in and kiss her. Go slowly, and make the feeling one where she is a deliberate part of the kiss, kiss, a cooperative kiss, but do not delay. delay. Go for it. Two, she can say anything to indicate that she’s not sure but if the answer isn’t “no” you say, “Let’s find out” and lean in and kiss her anyway anyway.. Three, she might say “no,” in which case you say, “I didn’t say you could. You just looked as if you wanted to be kissed.” Then you keep gaming for another :05 minutes, repeat repeat the question, and this time she will give you one of the first two answers. Older men can also get a fourth response response which is, “Not here.” This is good and essentially a “yes,” “yes,” but she is telling you that she is uncomfortable kissing you in front of h er friends. Calibrate. You can say, say, “I understand,” and let the moment pass because she has given you a calculated answer that is a yes but says she wants wants discretion. The next obvious idea is to take her hand and say, say, “Come with me,” and lead her into a more m ore private area and kiss her there. It is not weak to do the first and m ost often that is the probability move. Neil Strauss as Style created the famous Evolution Phase Shift, as he wrote in this article inserted below:

Evolution Phase Shift by Style

1. I tell her that she smells smells good and ask what she she is wearing. Then I lean in, brush her hair aside, and sniff her slowly slowly,, moving up from the shoulder to the ear ear.. “Mmmm, that smells good. People don’t pay enough attention to smell. But you’ll notice how animals, before they mate, will always smell each other. Evolution has hard-wired us to respond to certain things. You are wired to respond when someone smells you.” 2. “It’s like when someone pulls the back of your hair. hair. You’ll You’ll notice how lions, when they mate, always bite and tug at the end of each other’s mane, right here.” (Since I’m shaved bald, I’ll add here, “This is what I miss the most about not having hair”; if you have hair, say, say, “This is one of my favorite things”.) Then I run my hand up the back of her neck and grab a fistful of hair at the roots and pull it, downwards. She says “mmmm...” And I say “see.” 3. Then I talk about how “no one knows this, but the most sensitive sensitive places on the body are places that are usually hidden from contact with the air, like the back of the elbow (touching it) and knee (touching it). Any place where your body bends, twists, or folds, there are millions of sensitive little nerve endings that release endorphins. Then I take her arm, bend it a little, and erotically bite the area on the opposite side of the elbow (that crease where it bends). She usually gets the chills, and I have her ratify how good it feels.

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[NOTE FOR THE LESS EXPERIENCED: If you don’t know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before you do this. You You want to take a big chunk of skin—not a little pinch!—and slowly and firmly slide your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own elbow first …] 4. After, I say, say, “But do you know what the best thing in the world is? ... A bite ... right ... here.” And I point to the side side of my neck. (Every now and then, I’ll add, that “this has to do with the fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to do with submission and vulnerability vulnerability,, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.”) Then I’ll expose my neck and say, say, “Bite me right here” as if I EXPECT her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If she doesn’t, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat, “Bite me right here.” Usually here she will. 5. Half the time, her bite bite is lame. If so, I correct her and and say, say, “That’s “That’s not how you bite. Come here.” Then I give her a good bite on the neck n eck and instruct her to “try again.” This time, she ALWA ALW AYS does a great great job. 6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/app mischievou sly/approvingly, rovingly, and say, say, very slowly, “not bad.” Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes (i.e., “triangular gazing”), and ... yes ... finally ... you ... may ... if you want ... and if she’s she’s ready ... um ... kiss! Style

Kiss Trap: A False End Game There is a trap with kissing and that is for many women women kissing is their entire end game. If they can get the stimulation from the kissing, especially if it is in front of their friends and lends them your status as though she has “conquered” you, then then she may have had enough. In this case she may recuse herself herself with some excuse about using the ladies room, and when she returns she may flip a remark at you about how nice it was to meet you and she’s going back with her friends and maybe she’ll she you here later on. She’ She’ss blowing you off. The correction is to limit the kiss. kiss. First you kiss her for a second or two, then push her away and and tell her that she’ss bad, then pull her in and kiss her again, then push her away again and tell her she’s still bad, smile, she’ and say, “This is moving pretty fast. Let’s Let’s get back to your friends and you can get back to work on making m aking me feel comfortable again.” again .” Or after a second or two, say, say, “That’s all you get.” Funny, and a creative sexual tension builder. If you get a sassy “No” that you believe is really a playful “yes,” but one challenging you to demonstrate a caveman skill and go for it to express dominance, go in and kiss her for 1 second before pulling back and looking pretend-shocked, and say, say, “You’re “You’re right.” This is where you are likely to get a punch in the arm—a good thing—if you calibrated the situation right. This may seem counter-intuitive, but if you interrupt the kiss after a few seconds you prevent it from becoming the culminating experience of your interaction. Furthermore, you teach her that you are capable of restraint


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and it builds her sense of security around you ... and by putting things off slightly you build more sexual tension. The seduction has more elements to complete which are beyond the scope of this memo, but once you’re this far the fact that you are older is essentially irrelevant.

First Sex: “Survive the Mission” I have a serious bias about sex partners and that is that first sex is always bad sex, and that the best sex only comes from cultivating a longer term sexual relationship with someone whose character and interests match your own.7 Call it love, love, if you like. First sex is any sex you have before the sexual relationship relationship starts; and I believe the sexual relationship starts starts generally on the third third or fourth sexual seduction. Until that time, you’ll notice that you have to repeat the seduction-to-sex ritual in its entirety entirety,, if not at quite the same pace or intensity. Bad sex? Yes, absolutely. First sex is always awkward if for nothing else than the “elbows problem.” You don’t know how each other moves, their sense of natural grace, and more than once I have taken a small woman’ss elbows right to the chops. One gave me a serious black eye—accidentally woman’ eye—accidentally of course, and she was horrified at what she had done, but my friends found it amusing that a woman with no martial arts experience, half my size, could “get past my defenses” and and clock me good. All she had wanted was to flip herself over so I could fuck her from behind and that sailing elbow found my face because we weren’t yet familiar with each other. First sex has other awkward awkward moments, of course. She has to watch her elbows and yours but she wonders wonders whether she is pretty enough, enough, and what you want her to do? What can she ask for? First sex doesn’t give give her much guidance or comfort, and her overall experience (nominally described as her orgasm or orgasms) orgasms) is suboptimal. subopti mal. On a ten scale, figure that in first sex she can hit a two. Maybe. (Y (Yeah, eah, it’s it’s that bad.) Your goal in first sex is simply to “survive the mission.” Plan the mission, execute the mission, survive survive the mission—and you can sort out the details later later.. Of course you will inadvertently have great great fun but the pleasure will be in making a new sexual friend and not in the intensity, frequency, frequency, duration, and variety of the sex you have during the first few sessions. This is a mindset, that you can properly plan the longer term sexual relationship, for your benefit and hers.

7 My friend, Jeff, whose skill as a natural is undisputed, strongly buy ever-so-politely disagrees with this premise. In his world the best sex is passionate and with with someone just recently met. Hard to disagree with this guy, he’s he’s so good.

Incidentally, I had a girl shit test me after first sex by saying, “Well, that was a let down!” I interpreted this as Incidentally, an expression of her fear, that she thought she hadn’t been good enough for me and that I would therefore

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“dump her” and not call again. I responded by taking her to dinner (at a modest place for for food, not for celebration) where I made certain the discussion topic was narrowly focused on the following “Principles to Teach the Girls, and To Live By” paragraph, infra; and it worked to perfection, and she became a happy, willing, love struck porn star sex slave who said every time we m et, “I thank God every day that He brought you to me—I don’t know where I’d be or what I’d feel without you.” This is a mindset, that you can properly plan the longer term sexual relationship, for your benefit and hers. Incidentally, I had a girl shit test me after first sex by saying, “Well, that was a let down!” I interpreted this as Incidentally, an expression of her fear, that she thought she hadn’t been good enough for me and that I would therefore “dump her” and not call again. I responded by taking her to dinner (at a modest place for for food, not for celebration) where I made certain the discussion topic was narrowly focused on the following “Principles to Teach the Girls, and To Live By” paragraph, infra; and it worked to perfection, and she became a happy, willing, love struck porn star sex slave who said every time we m et, “I thank God every day that He brought you to me—I don’t know where I’d be or what I’d feel without you.”

Follow-on Sex: “Make it Worth Her While” Older men have tremendous biological biological advantages over younger guys. guys. Imagine the goal is a 25 year old bikini model and you are a 65 year old guy, guy, 5’6” tall and 220 lbs, balding or bald, who gets some exercise but hasn’t officially hit the gym for 20 years. You’re cool, you have worked on developing your game, and you follow good grooming grooming habits. Compare this to a 28 year old guy, guy, basically gorgeous gorgeous build at 6’2” tall and 180 lbs of solid muscle he works on every day at the gym. Got that in mind? Good. Good. You as the older guy can kick the shit out of the younger competition by rocking this girl’s world in a way the “kid” cannot. First, embrace the principles at the bottom bottom of this memo. This isn’t about high school sex; it’ it’s about managing the relationship to rock rock her world, and teach her to rock yours. Second, if you haven’t heard heard of the One Hour Orgasm, find the material from the San Francisco group called “The Welcomed Consensus” and make it part of your own. Third, find the material from David Shade (“Give Women Wild Screaming Orgasms.pdf”) and Steve Picuss (aka Hypnotica, who teaches the use of hypnosis to send, and keep, women over that wild, crazy sexual edge) and do the same thing with that material.

The Rôle of Alcohol in the Sexual Relationship R elationship Are you there there to drink, or are are you there to to successfully pick up a beautiful, intelligent, talented woman to a successful sexual first close, and thence to a successful, high intensity longer term relationship? Alcohol reduces the one advantage you have, which is your cool demeanor and intellect. Why would you give up even a small percentage percentage of your attractiveness for the privilege privilege of drinking? If the girl asks what you are drinking simply state “I don’t don’t drink” with no apology or weakness, weakness, setting the the frame that your response response is the coolest, strongest strongest possible. possible. Sometimes it is just as easy to say say “club soda with lime” and let the issue drop.


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If you need alcohol to calm your nerves, or give you courage, or make you relaxed enough to approach and game women, you are making a huge mistake. mistake. The remedy is not to drink but to work on your game and then stay alcohol-free during the interaction. There are times when the interaction is going well and refusing a drink could be seen as socially inept, such as a glass of wine over lunch with a girl whose progress has been regular and the outcome seems comfortably secure. secure. Sure, go ahead and drink a glass, but be aware aware of the principle and maintain 100% control over your game and the outcome by not letting the alcohol go to your head. What about her? Isn’t it better if she is drinking, so she loses loses her inhibitions and comes to you more easily, easily, or faster? No, not in my opinion. Alcohol lends nothing to the equation I find remotely remotely helpful. She has to stay stay 100% conscious in order to appreciate what I have to offer, offer, which is the experience of being with me. Worse Worse,, if she does sleep with you—and the next day has buyer’s remorse and self-justifies her sleeping with you as you having taken advantage of her—the fact she was seen as drunk or even just “happy” could fuel witnesses’ recollections that that perhaps you did take advantage of her. her. If alcohol was involved and you brought a drink to her,, it even raises the spectre of you having drugged her dru gged her with a “roofie.” This is more than a hypothetical. An acquaintance picked up a girl at a night spot and the evening went well, well, so well in fact that she took him home h ome and had sex with him. He didn’t think much of it as she seemed to be a party girl, and there wasn’t much prospect of a long term relationship in that tryst, so he forgot about it. Forgot about it, that is, until the police knocked at his h is door, door, asked and confirmed his identity, then arrested him for the rape she had sworn had taken place. Sure she was a nut case, but that wasn’t wasn’t apparent to the the guy at the time. (Think Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.) Attraction.) The witnesses witnesses his attorney found all corroborated corroborated his story and the case was dismissed but not before he lost 20 lbs, 6 months of his life to depression, and $10,000 in attorney’ attorney’ss fees. fees. In my opinion, alcohol can be very bad. Avoid it when when gaming. Stay focused: focused: don’t don’t drink.

To all my friends, good luck and good hunting!

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Appendix A – Old Men With Young Young Women: Women: An Ethics Issue? In teaching friends to “connect” with younger, younger, beautiful women I encountered the attitudes that there is something just not right about a 50 year old man picking up and enjoying the company of a much younger woman. They accepted that the women entered entered these relationships relationships willingly but usually disparaged the girls’ motives. “Those young women are with with him for his money” or travel or car, car, or some other variation which shifts the focus to a thing rather than the cool cool man behind it. Their objections were fragile fragile and quickly broke down under any sort of analysis (i.e., you can and should date the woman without bringing money into the issue by doing very cool, but not excessively expensive things), but were initially powerful, emotional barriers to considering the issue. I believe they were propagandized propagandized into accepting less than than what they deserved, and I aim to correct that. As to objections we start with the cultural. In American and other West Western ern societies (except Italy and Brazil, it would seem), the church, state, and Oprah Winfrey’ Winfrey’ss viewership have persuaded us that it is a man’s man’s duty to tie himself to one woman of approximately approximately his own age. If this occurs by virtue of a long and successful marriage then I am all in favor of it: two 80-year olds, still active and “into” each other, other, have to be a beautiful thing. The rub occurs with a single man, 50-60 years old. Our society abhors the thought that he might find comfort and enjoyment in the arms [or bed] of a 20 year old girl because this essentially relegates relegates women his own age to ancillary roles. When older women, 50 years years and up, are forced forced to compete with with 23 year old HB10+s, it is clear these older women will rarely if ever prevail and their lifelong strategies are thereby constrained. Society cannot cannot tolerate this age-based age-based unfairness! So it defines the relationship relationship of older men, men, younger women as “immature” or “unethical.” (It is also terrifying to women that the remaining best strategy, strategy, as I hinted above, is to take care of their first husband and not divorce him; make their first one count and they have exploited their one advantage over the younger women: the “Home Court Advantage.”) When a single 50-60 year old man becomes known, he is often “set up” on dates. Do you know who he is set up with? Most often fat, old women of his own age and with with little or no resources or professional professional skills to bring to the relationship. Her sole qualification is that “they look look good together” to outsiders, and that that “they’ll each have someone someone to grow old old with.” Never mind that she is sexually unsatisfying to him or reduces reduces his quality of life. And never mind that several or perhaps even most of the women women that he is set up with claim to be his age but in actuality are 10 years older. (Isn’t that a pretty pretty picture!) It is as though our society demands that every healthy, healthy, successful man has an obligation to identify one parasitic female—that is, she brings little to the equation except taking herself off the rolls of old, single women—and agree to split his assets and time with her whether she is deserving or not. The amazing thing is that American men are so propagandized, starting in our childhood by our mothers and continuing on with unrelenting fury throughout our entire lives, that they embrace this “duty” as an ethical one. How many men do you know that divorced, met a woman approximately their own age (through friends) shortly thereafter, thereafter, and then seemed hurriedly “rushed to the altar” for a replacement marriage? My belief is that all men should identify what they want in life and then go after it. If women your same age appeal to you, then do it! But if younger women appeal to you, then apologize apologize to no one for who you are or what you want in life and let your chase begin!


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This belief is expressed in another way when women (and Hollywood movie writers) say that all men should “date within their league”—whatever THAT THAT means. But when we hear the objection that “that woman is out of your league,” we understand that society is telling us “you do not fit our societal model of who should be dating whom,” because if this rend in the universe is allowed then there will be no men left for the old, parasitic females who who comprise Oprah Winfrey’ Winfrey’ss viewership. My view is: ALL WOMEN ARE IN YOUR LEAGUE. More important, there is NO WOMAN that is “out “out of your league.” Riding on the coattails of that cultural assumption is the belief by many older m en that young women will have no interest in them. Nonsense! The game is different different but the joy joy open for you to discover is that younger younger women are dying to find a cool older guy. guy. You know things the young guys don’t. And it isn’t about lavishing money or travel or high living on them; it’s about having a better emotional and sexual life for their time with you. I recall having dinner with workmates, where a pretty 21 year old girl was desperately trying to gain the attention of a 55 year old guy. guy. She tried everything, even down to unbuttoning unbuttoning the top two buttons of her top, then leaning forward (so he could examine her tits) while twisting and contorting her body so as to appear to be checking the door “for a friend” when her real purpose was to give him permission to look “while she was conspicuously looking away.” away.” He still didn’t take take the bait and look … and finally she left, frustrated frustrated and crestfallen, for the ladies room. I asked my buddy buddy,, “Are you interested in her?” and he answered, “No, she’s too young for me.” If by that he had meant, “She is so young that she does not appeal appeal to me” then I would have agreed. It is his right to determine what appeals to him and what I think or desire desire is of no matter. matter. He should never be out to conform to my expectations, as a high school school boy might subject himself to peer pressure. pressure. A four hundred pound Pacific Islander girl? If she’s she’s okay by him then I approve, too, not that my approval approval matters. But what he meant was, “I believe that she thinks that I am too old for her, as she has already commented that that her father is nearly 10 years younger than I am.” When I heard that I was dispirited. He had raised the barrier “She’ “She’ss out of my league.” Nothing I could say in the time allowed could convince him otherwise. otherwise. She went home, upset and lonely to her bed and he went home, ignorant and deprived of her wonderful company because of his having unwittingly embraced that detestable cultural rule that all men should date within within their own league. (Whatever that means.) Ignore what others say say. If young women appeal to you, and if you’re willing willing to put in the time and effort to gain the skill of dating and enjoying them, then JUST DO IT. IT. The world will be a better place for it, and your life will improve as well. Note: my reference herein to “20 year old women” and the like is not meant to impose a preference on my male readers, but to set a lower boundary boundary that the reader should feel free to raise in his own mind as he reviews this memo. Substitute “30 year old” old” or “40 year old” as the expression if that makes this memo more understandable to you, but be aware that young, beautiful women have no problem developing an interest in men as old as their their grandfathers, so long as that man practices “good “good game.”

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And by the way way,, even 20 year old women women are not the lower lower limit since I have had interested 18 year old old women approach, open, open, and game me. The simple rule is that that if the girl is age-legal, age-legal, you can be 78 years old with a healthy, healthy, strong game, and get her attracted and sexually pursuing you … and To To Hell with the opinions opinions of those lesser mortals in Life’s bleachers!

Age appropriateness appropriateness has even made its way into Wikipedia. Note the pseudo- scientific tone of these these experts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_s http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships exual_relationships A suggestion: read read the article then then celebrate by picking up, entrancing, and fucking the the brains out of a gorgeous, intelligent, sensitive, sensitive, sweet 22 year old woman—and make her your girlfriend, so long as she promises to be a good girl for you.


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Appendix B – A Simple NLP “Television “Television Pattern”: Overcoming Overcoming Cultural Resistance A full discussion of Neuro Neuro Linguistic Programming Programming [aka “NLP”] “NLP”] is beyond the scope of this little memo, but there are occasions where where a particular “pattern” (using NLP-speak) will help ease a girl into thinking that you are a possible. It doesn’t create create attraction, but once attraction attraction is to be had then this “television” pattern— pattern— recalled here as well as I can, although the original Ross Jeffries’ Jeffries’ss version is likely superior—can assist her over the hump by b y providing an emotional logic for her to see herself with Exciting You, You, without interfering with her relationship with her current boyfriend. This pattern is an excellent lead-in to discussing the notion that to women, an infidelity with some men “doesn’t count.” count.” That is, many women report that they they have been 100% faithful to their boyfriends or husbands even when it is clear that they have had sex with another man, because in the woman’s mind “he didn’t count.” If she takes to the discussion—and in my experience, women women usually do—then this sets you up as the next guy that “doesn’t count” so she can safely have sex with you without jeopardizing her main relationship. Specifically, in telling the television story below you imply that there is more than one channel on the Specifically, television, and that sometimes a well-lived life should try other channels to see what’s what’s there. You: “Do you have a television? Do you ever watch television?” television ?” Her: [Usually she says “yeah, sure” and you continue; but if she says no you can riff it over to radio or different iPod MP3s. Or you can neg her with a joke comeback comeback and ask querilessly, querilessly, “Do you have electricity?”] electricity?”] Blah, blah, blah. You: “So when you go home, you probably have a favorite television show. You walk in and turn it on, and you don’t so much watch as you rejoin your family, there on the screen. You know all of them, intimately, intimat ely, just as they know know you. They’re your friends, and you’ll probably never give them them up.” You: “But some days … you walk in … and you’re just in the mood for something new, something a little … different. It’s not that you’re mad at your old friends … it’s just that you’ve SEEN that show before. It’s a little too familiar. You’re not going to feel that way forever, but for today you desire a little change.” change .” You: “So you pick up the channel changer and you begin to surf around. Surf around, that is, until you come across a station that’s a little more exciting, that ts your mood for today. The exciting, new ROGUE station that maybe even your friend wouldn’t approve of. of. But it appeals to you today, today, and you want want to do it.”

[Note: by this point she definitely knows you’re not talking in the abstract about television, but the words strongly convey the the fantasy of having sex with you. So know that, and go with that. By this point you’re you’re not talking about the television any more.] m ore.] You: “So you have already felt it, haven’t you? That I’m that ROGUE television station, that rogue lover that will take you places your regular boyfriend would never take you, and that you could never ask him to take

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you, because he might think you were a pervert and reject you.” You: “Tomorrow you’ll return to your steady, reliable, regular boyfriend and he’ll be there, as always.“ You: “So it’s going to happen, you and me. So relax and enjoy being with me, so we can clear the air of all this silly sexual tension you keep creating, and then we can get back to just hanging out, and feeling good.”


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Appendix C - Stock Memorization Memorization Items for the “Banter Battle” Battle” Sometimes a shit test really isn’t a shit test so much as “challenge flirting” and is said in a playful, or at least mock serious voice. In this case you have entered into the “Banter Battle” which is a flirty flirty,, funny series of exchanges to establish who is dominant, cooler and more unflappable, and thus of higher value. The loser of the banter battle may still remain a cool and desirable person but it is better to prepare with stock languaging so you never come across as a tool when challenged. Here are just some stock examples to give you the general idea. When she teases you with a mock insult, say “My mom’s told me worse.” This isn’t said in a self-deprecat self-deprecating ing way but with the attitude of, “Hey little girl, there is no way that you can hurt my feelings because I’m that strong.” “Are you at least rich?” Suggesting that if she’s she’s going to be a pain in the ass, that she should have at least this redeeming value to you. “You look familiar. Have we had sex?” Whenever she touches or moves any of your stuff, “You’re fucking up my Fung Shui!”

If you’re into Direct Game and she says, “You just want to fuck me,” answer answer laughingly (but otherwise serious as it is not a joke), “Girl, I will do you in every hole you’ve got!” got!” Another answer in the same vein is, “Girl, you couldn’t handle me. I’d fuck you twelve different ways—six of which you wouldn’t even like!” These answers fit better when you sense her challenge had a negative edge to it, as a challenging shit test. “Did you come over here just to irt with me?” “Stop undressing me with your eyes!” “Don’t get your hopes up, I’m not easy.” “Stop trying to impress me.” “Are you always like this, or just with guys you’re attracted to?” “If I wasn’t gay you’d be SO my type.” “You better be getting back to your friends before they realize you’re irting with me, but before you go …” — a false time constraint you impose upon her when she came over to you or is separated from her group, just before you run another routine or tell her a story. “You know, you’re a pretty cool [good] [nice] girl, despite what everyone says about you.” “You’re pretty cute … for a tall [or short] girl.” “Clearly, your boyfriend isn’t spanking you enough.” “You think you can take me? I doubt it. I will tickle you until you pee your pants.” “OMG!8 ‘Saucer of milk, table two!’,” if she’s acting really bitchy [catty].

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“You’re looking at me the way a fat kid looks at a cheeseburger.” “This is a really great spot for me: I’m really well lit.” “You’re getting me all emotional. I promised my friends I wouldn’t go home home with anyone tonight.” “Something smells great in here. Oh wait, that’s that’s me.” “You guys are trouble.” or “You guys are bad girls. I’ll have to watch out for you.” “You’re cool. You can help me pick up chicks.” “Why are girls always so logical? Why can’t they just feel and be in the moment… like guys? “What kind of girls do you like?” Stated calmly and directly, this seeks to elicit a bisexual response in addition to being cocky-funny. “Are you drunk or are you usually like this? … Is she always like this?” “Did you forget to take your medication today? “We’d never get along, we’re too similar. You’d never take my shit and I wouldn’t wouldn’t take yours. You know, we’d always ght. And I would always win.” win.” “You’re like my little sister. Lovable, but annoying.” annoying.” “You’re bad. You’re making me think impure thoughts.” thoughts.” “Okay, you’re my new girlfriend. Oh wait! Can you cook?” cook?” “You’re such a dork.” dork.” “You’re a Republican, aren’t you?” “You’re a shy girl aren’t you? You guys gotta get her out more.” “You usually hang out at the library, don’t don’t you?” “You’re just so cute! I’m going to take you home in my pocket and ask my roommates if I can keep you! Wait a minute … are you housebroken?” “Dork! I’m going to get you one of those little hats with a propeller on it.” When she drops or spills something, look a little exasperated and say, “See? This is why we can’t have nice things” or “That’s okay. You don’t have to be nervous” or

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Obviously, OMG is an abbreviation for the exclamation, “OH MY GOD!”

Offer to get her a sippy cup, or ask the bartender if he has a sippy cup for her, her, and then say, “Easy, tiger!”


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“Now you’re just talking while you’re thinking of something to say.” “If I wasn’t gay we would have such beautiful children. Seriously, imagine how cute our children would be,” and you can continue if you like, “They’d have my good looks … and … well, all my personality, too.”

Repeatedly ask her name, then nickname her “Muffin.” Other mildly deprecating names are Missy, Missy, Princess, and Doris. If she does something stupid say, say, “It’s a good thing you’re pretty.” Works best on 7’s 7’s and 8’s 8’s that aren’t that pretty, though. Challenge them to thumb-wars, and if you beat them say say,, “OMG you SUCK at this… but you can cook, right?” “You have a strange resemblance to a friend of mine ... if you shaved your head you would look EXACTLY like my friend Paul ...” “You have a very unique dress sense ... I like that about you ... I can tell you’re probably high maintenance.” “My girl of my dreams must love kids, in fact I plan of having 14 of them (I pat her belly) yep ... a WHOLE soccer team and we’ll travel the world playing other countries, France, Germany ... I’ll coach them and you can be the manager... All the boys will be named Alex and all the girls will be named Alexandria” (but choose male and female takeoffs of your own name).

The interaction has gone well but she hasn’t given you her name and it is time for you to do a Takeaway Takeaway,, so here is a playful way of giving her a name. “You remind me of a girl I used to travel around Australia with. She was always doing these weird awkward things [making a reference to some awkwardness the target cool and adventurous so I really liked her. Her name was Elizabeth but we all called displayed] but she was cool her Bertha—so I’m just going to call you BERTHA.”

The “Mean Girl” Shit Test [Edit this in when I have the chance …]

Mini-Remarks, fired back when they fit: Which one of you guys would win in a fight? You’re taking this way too seriously. Stop flirting with me. You couldn’t handle me. If that were true, you wouldn’t [already] love me. You You must’ve driven d riven your parents crazy. Give me a kiss on the cheek and maybe I’ll let you forgive me. I’m too high maintenance for you. What else do you like about me? 26


I’m so out of your league. Let’s play a game. Let’s see how long you can hold your breath. You’re You’re back to square one, missy. You’re so outside the circle of trust. You’re such s uch a player. Do your parents know where you are? Isn’t this a school night? You girls aren’t tourists, are you? Okaaay … You really don’t know what you’re doing, do you? Your ex-boyfriend sounds just like me. I’m so emotionally unavailable right now. I think you might make a nice friend. We need to find you a man.


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Appendix D - Generic Shit Test Methodology Tests come in many forms, and when she does something that might be a test you have to determine whether she is being playful and with a good, flirty, flirty, cooperative attitude or possibly even showing appreciation to you for flirting with her; or or whether she is trying trying to show ownership ownership and dominance over you. you. In the first case you can either reward or ignore her, and in the second you must either push her away or rebuke her. Examples of these ambiguous tests include:

“Your “Y our game isn’t strong enough. I’m bored.” “Buy me a drink and you can nd out how good a kisser I am.” “Let me see your hat.”

She starts grabbing you even before you have talked to her, or she starts making out with you, or she touches your crotch. Tests like these are often a way of the girl trying to show value relative to you, and one sure way to pass the test is to raise her value even more, more, implicitly making you alpha to her for the ability to do this. For example: “Respect” “Awesome! Point for you.” A more classic, classic, counter-d counter-dominance ominance response response might might be:

“I don’t know who your boyfriend is but he h e definitely isn’t spanking you enough.” (Response to lightweight test.) “OMG, you totally shot me down! That’s awesome, I bet you do that all day. (To other person) Check this out, this girl is AWESOME, you come up to make conversation and she blows you out of the water. (To girl) Wait, do it again. I’m gonna roll up on you, do exactly what you did before.” (Response (Response to harsh test.)

(Responding to the demand that you buy her a drink.) “ Buy you a drink? Is that the best pickup line you could think of? I thought you’d be more creative, or at least, less nervous, than that. ” Generic counters:

“Looks like someone put her crankypants on this morning.” “God I LOVE THAT about me!” (in answer to any accusation of being a man, a jerk, a dick, arrogant, etc.)

If she calls you a pussy, always re-frame re-frame it as “ Seriously, if you don’t stop hitting on me, I’m getting a restraining order.” Then to her friends, “Is she always like this around good looking guys?”

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Appendix E – Swinggcat’ Swinggcat’s Doggy Routine. Modified Modified by Zed “Let’s pretend you are my dog”

A role-playing scenario that is lots lots of fun to do with with women is to ask them: them: if you were a dog, what kind of of dog would you be and why (this is a great follow up to the pug/beagle conversational opener)? After they answer answer, I might say, say, “I like that kind of dog. I might have to to buy you from the pet store.” Then I will say with a suspicious look on my face, while turning my back on her, her, “You don’t pee on the oor ... do you?” If they say “no” then I will grab their hands while pulling them in close to me and say, “Good, “Good, then I am taking you home with me.” Then I might look at her in the eyes, hold her hands but start to push her just a teensy bit away from me, and pound.” say, “Are you an adventurous doggy? Because if not I am going to take you to the pound.” If she says that she is, then I pull pu ll her even closer to me and say, “good doggy” (you (you might even want to pat her on the head at this point). Then I might hug her and tell her that she is such a cute doggy. doggy. Then I might say to her, “you know why?” She She will say, “why”. I might say, “Because you remind me of Sam.” She She will ask, “Who is Sam?” I will respond by telling her that Sam was the only dog that I ever loved, but he is dead now and since she is almost as cute as Sam I am going to name her … Number Two. Two. Then I might grab her really close to me as if I am going to kiss her, look in her eyes, and say: “Eew ... you are trying to kiss me and you are a K-9. No worries, I am going to get you a date on that new Internet dating website for K-9s.” By playing this little make-believe m ake-believe game with her, her, I evoked emotions of her wanting my acceptance and validation. Put in other words, through playing a make believe game, I was able to get her to chase me. Very powerful, indeed! Now see the next Appendix F, “Zed’ Very “Zed’ss Dog Groomer Routine” as an alternative, and more aggressive, variation.


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Appendix F – Zed’s Zed’s Dog Groomer Routine Routine “Me? I’m a dog groomer!”

This routine was devised to deal with some girl who starts asking too many “job interview” questions during your interaction, the problem being that if you let her ask these questions the frame becomes that she is the interviewer and you are the supplicant, supplicant, and that she is qualifying you. That is, she is investigating whether whether you are “good enough” to hang with her ... and if you let that frame prevail you are toast because no man ever passes that test. The fact you let her test you in the first place clearly establishes in her mind that you are lower value than than she. It is a classic shit-test, however however nicely phrased. Bullshit on that. If anyone is doing the qualifying, it will be me. Telling her that you are a dog groomer, groomer, and then cleverly making it stick through the application of a Dan Akroydesque delivery delivery,, is also something something of a neg. It tells her, her, “I am not really really attracted to you and will not suck up to you,” which tells her emotional operating system, “wow, this guy is way higher value than me if he isn’t doing the AFC- bit and going ga-ga ga-ga over me.” It also has the advantage of letting her friends see see that you are cooler than she is, which in taking her down a peg from her Queen of Sheeba social position, endears you to them. From that position position of dominance, you have a chance. A really GOOD GOOD chance, if you play your cards right. But this is a good good transition to get you started. The dog groomer introduction transitions into a qualifying routine devised by Swinggcat [see the foregoing Appendix E discussion], where where you ask the the questions and she answers. answers. Note that the questions follow a clear clear push-pull [or IOI followed by IOD, if you prefer] methodology methodology, which makes the whole thing work. And it is funny and her friends will think you’re cooler by the minute. One quick thought: when you bring up dogs and later ask her, her, “What kind of dog would you be?,” she and her friends will naturally assume that at some point you are going to refer to the sexual position, Doggy Style— but the routine scrupulously never goes goes there, and for good reason. reason. The thought of “Doggy Style” will will be carried in their brains, waiting for you to “drop the other shoe” by b ringing it up; and the longer you go without mentioning it will make the tension build. They’ll keep wondering, “So when is this guy going going to say ‘Doggy Style’?” You get way more mileage from the concept of doggy style by not mentioning it than by doing the obvious and using it, as an AFC would. Don’t go there. Her: So what do you do for for a living? You: [Matter of factly, quickly] I’m a dog groomer. Her: Whaaa …? You: A DOG GROOMER. An Inter-NATIONAL dog groomer, and don’t laugh: I make more money than YOU. [Said with slight neg implied in voice.] Her: Blah, blah, blah, etc.

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You : I get paid, IN ADVANCE, rst class expenses for travel and accommodations plus $200 per day per diem, plus $2000 per day for the rst 6 hours of working time—AND I’m fully subscribed through next March … if you wanted … and could afford … an appointment. Her: Blah, blah? Blah, blah, BLAH, blah? You: It is a matter of talent, and artistic expression. I have it. Whether a Cardigan Welsh Corgi, Lhasa Lhasa Apso, Pomeranian, Giant Schnauzer—it doesn’t matter because these hands can nd the AKC show winner buried buried beneath … the matted … coat [looking at her hair, hair, and seemingly distracted] —say, what do they call your hair style? The Wafe, isn’t it? [Conspiratorially] You know, I could probably DO SOMETHING with … oh, nevermind! You: As I was saying, it’s a matter of MALE STRENGTH, too, because you have to have strong hands to command the respect of the larger breeds. You: Here [holding out your hands for her to put hers in yours] . Let me see your hands. [Take them.] Now. Squeeze. SQUEEZE THEM. Squeeze my hands as hard as you … AAAGGH! [and throw her hands down, but playfully]. You: You have prissy hands. No dog would ever respect you. Male dogs would try to MOUNT YOU. Have you ever been MOUNTED BY A DOG? [Look at her suspiciously] Her: NO! Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah! You: Hmmmm. I don’t know about you … [suspiciously [suspiciously,, then brightly] You: So! … if you could could be just one type of dog, what what type of dog would you be? Her: Blah. A blah, blah dog. You: [Hesitate as though reflecting on her answer, and then you seem to understand that she gave you a cool good choice! In fact if you were a [Chihuahua] and I saw you at choice after all.] A BLAH DOG? Awesome, good the pound, I’d take you home home with me. I’d put you in my pocket and walk walk out the door with you. Her: Blah, blah, blah. You: But wait a second. Are you house broken? broken? Because if you PEE ALL OVER THE FLOOR I’ll take you straight back to your pound cage! Her: ME? Pee on the oor? Blah, blah … [energetic] BLAH! You: Okay, cool! So you and I would go on great adventures together. I’d teach you tricks and you’d do them for me, and … wait a minute! [Suspiciously] You are an adventurous little doggie, aren’t you? Because in order to hang with me you have to be ADVENTUROUS to share in AMAZING things with me.”


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Her : [Some variation on “Of course I’m adventurous,” which is a pre-set for later sexual attitudes, too!] You : Come here. Let me check you out [and then slowly lean in, and deeply smell her neck] . See? If you were my little puppy I would now know know everything about you, by sense of smell. Whether you were afraid … or aroused … either way, feeling fully dominated by me, the literal Alpha Dog. You : So, cool … [Stop as though considering carefully, carefully, then] … Okay … I’LL KEEP YOU. But you’re going to be a good and obedient little doggie for me, aren’t you?

Then later on, and through the evening, you can occasionally reinforce the “doggie” frame by saying, “Good Girl!” when she does something you approve of. You can pat her knee or head, or even even her hand. This will be a call-back to the push-pull and fun feelings she had earlier when you pulled the routine. By the way, some have suggested to me that for the under 35-crowd females, “adventurous” is a euphemism for anal sex. I can’t say I disagree disagree from the feedback I’ve gotten. gotten. Swinggcat advances that that view, view, too, as an ancillary benefit to his contribution to the routine. routine. Just so you are aware aware of what she thinks you are implying within the questioning sequence. I have been asked, Why not take pride in your profession profession and tell her what you really do? She’ll be impressed, won’t won’t she? Answer: NO SHE WON’T because because you allowed her to take the superior interviewer interviewer position, so you lose. Go ahead and keep trying it that old way and let me know how it goes; goes; or try this and see if your results are a little more spectacular. spectacular. Then for extra credit, see if you can start to unravel the esoteric female psychology psychology that explains why Dog Groomer works. works. If you have the time, I’ll explain it over a beer—or better yet, demo it to show how it works.

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Appendix G – Principles Principles to Teach Teach the Girls, and To To Live By These principles, discussed before or after first sex, are crucial to inculcate into all women you intend to have sex with because it tells them what they want to hear, that their life will become better and better by being the best lover possible for you. You must be perfectly comfortable in your own skin talking about these subjects, without the slightest “leakage” of doubt. doubt. The notion is that if you are comfortable comfortable talking about a subject, then the woman will be, too, no matter how she might have felt felt about the subject in your absence. Anal sex? Videotaping her as you you cum on her face? If you make it sound perfectly sexy and fun, and a naughty secret you share, then she will adopt your comfort level as her own. On the other hand, if she detects that you are are even a little freaked out about the subject matter, matter, even if it is something as innocent and uncontroversial as hand holding, she will resist and be freaked out by the subject. These principles will help her become happy, even if they are a new way of thinking to her, so long as she sees that you are comfortable with them … and so will she. Although this may be a little out of sequence sequence I offer them them here for their ubiquitousand ubiquitousand essential utility. utility. Don’t leave home without them! Principle 1:

“To get good sex you must give good sex. Become an expert at giving great sex and “To you will experience in return the kind of sex life your friends can only fantasize about.”

This establishes that she can expect great things from and with you, and does her the great service of telling her that she is allowed and expected to become adventurous and skilled in sex, and that this is a formula for her to hold on to you. She will also see this as a path to increasing increasing her value overall, which may serve her when she is with you and for that possible period after you have left. Principle 2:

“While it is the privilege of men to love, savor savor,, appreciate and embrace the taste of a woman’s pussy, so is it the woman’s great privilege to learn to savor and appreciate the taste of a mouthful of cum.”

Many women will say that they “don’t give head,” where the real reason is that they are afraid of allowing you to see that they are inexperienced, and that they might humiliate themselves by doing a poor job. Explaining this as a natural right of beautiful, sexual women, you set the stage for them to learn how how much fun it is for them to suck your cock. Although I have written written on this subject elsewhere, elsewhere, let me add here that I usually mention large large numbers of blowjobs, where they can learn and refine their cocksucking skill, so they can relax and know it will not be an infrequent experience but a regular regular event in their lives. I also adopt the tone that when they blow me, and when I comedown the back of their throats, that I am doing this for their benefit—which so far has always been adopted as their experience with me. Principle 3:

“Good sex involves frequency and timing. Men have priority as to timing, and women have priority as to duration. That is, since men take some period of recharging recharg ing between orgasms, the man is pleasured first and according to his desires


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so that he may be physically recovering for a second orgasm while the woman has her turn. After the man has cum then the woman enjoys hours, or as much as she wants, of slow, slow, languid, intensive attention. When the man’s man’s recharge period period has run and he is ready again, the cycle repeats itself as he takes priority, priority, then transition priority back to the woman, and so forth for as much time as is available.” Simultaneous orgasm is one goal young women fantasize about achieving, but it is harder than it sounds and comes at a great cost. cost. In the beginning, you should encourage the alternative view view of maximizing each other’ss individual pleasure at independent moments and save the simultaneous cum for when you both really other’ know each other’s responses. Then you need to discuss a fundamental difference between men and women, that men have an orgasm and usually require a “refractory” “refractory” period where we we recover and “reload.” “reload.” For an older guy this can be a couple of hours, in some cases, much longer longer.. What this suggests is that for the man to experience the greatest sex he should be allowed to cum 2 or 3 or 4 times in the day, day, and to achieve this he must get started early—have an orgasm—wait a couple of hours—have another—and so forth, until he runs out of time. Therefore, the man cums first. Women can have many, many orgasms Women orgasms throughout the day with a much shorter refractory period. If the man has cum first and then it is “their turn,” she will have a couple of hours at the minimum to enjoy a full-body pleasuring at the hands of the man. While this may sound a little mechanical, it works out great in practice so long as the woman adopts this philosophy as her own. own. In practice it may work work like this:

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9:00am

Woman blows man, man cums after :20 minutes

9:30am to noon

Man pleasures woman with massage, eating pussy pussy,, and fucking as she cums three times

Noon

Woman massages man, gives hand job then fucks him until he cums for a second time

1:00pm

Lunch

1:30pm to 5:00pm

Man repeats woman’ woman’ss favorites, 69ing with her (where she is the privileged cummer), and fucks her as she cums 4 more times

5:00 pm to 7:00pm

Break for dinner and a movie

7:30pm

In cab on way home from movie, woman gives man a hand job then sucks on him as he cums … because although this was a little inconvenient, she believed that this was the optimum time for him to cum and so created the opportunity for them both


Trust me, this can be a very good thing for you both. Principle 4:

“Good sex is about learning and trying new things, and expanding your sexual envelope. Your mantra must be that you will try everything if to do so is to enhance enhance your and your partner’s partner’s pleasure.”

This is a variation on the first principle. Principle 5:

“My goal is to discover exactly what turns you on the most, what makes you hottest, and craziest, and gets you up for the longest, most intense experience, and the most frequent orgasm at the highest intensity that lasts for the greatest duration; that makes your body feel like it is exploding with the power of the sun. And once I discover what that is— and the cool thing is that you probably don’t know exactly what that is at this time, that that experience is buried deep in your DNA and it is our privilege to dig it out and discover it together. together. And then once I discover what it is that makes you you hottest, that you enjoy the most, m ost, the gives you the greatest most unimaginable pleasure ever— no matter how weird or strange or common or perverted—I’m going to do nothing else for you but that over and over and over and over, over, 20 or 50 or a hundred times, and I’ll only stop when I discover something new, something that you like even better, better, and then I’ll switch to that. Because you’re that that important to me, and because you’re lucky lucky enough to have met me.”

I explain this to women women as a matter of fact, and it has never never failed to elicit a happy smile. When I point out that what turns them on is something that I don’t at the moment, and neither do they, but that we will find out together—I am explaining that even if in their deepest dreams and desires, they have something really immoral and kinky they want to do but feel it is too dirty or too uncomfortable to reveal to me, then when I discover this (and they are not “responsible” because I am the one who discovered it, without much of their help) I will keep doing it until I find something they like that is better better.. Principle 6:

“Men can cum a few ways, some very pleasurable, kinky kinky,, fun, perverted, and emotionally bonding, and all are worth worth the effort. But women can cum dozens of different ways and combinations of ways, in so many different parts of their bodies and in some cases, all at once, with so many different intensities that it must surely be a great privilege to be a woman. So my pledge to you will be for so long as we are together,, to constantly strive to make your sexual experience better than you thought together possible, and the envy of every woman you know now or shall ever meet in the future.”

Read David Shade. Principle 7:

“Good sex is absolutely required for good health. The man and the woman that have an intense, exciting, varied, and kinky sex life are mentally sharper and happier; they enjoy their work more and achieve better results; their bodies remain healthier both from the sex itself and from the general feeling of well being, which allows exercise and good eating and other factors to keep the body fit. fit. Wome Women n especially are vulnerable to depression without great great sex in their lives, and the experience supplants any need for


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Prozac-type drugs. And when difficulty in life strikes, the memory of recent, overwhelming, intensely pleasurable sex can be the difference between responding to the difficulty constructively constructively or collapsing under the stress. stress. Repeat after me: Good sex is absolutely required for good health. It is a duty we owe to one another.” Self-explanatory. Principle 8:

“Good sex is the glue that binds two people together together.. Love is ephemeral: if you want to stay together, together, have good sex regularly. regularly. If you don’t care about the relationship and you want it to come apart, ignore the other partner’s health and sexual needs and the relationship with wither.”

This states a truism. There cannot be love long term, without without sex. If they want to keep keep you, then sex is part of the bargain. If the sex goes away, away, then the love ends and so does the relationship. relationship. Women are propagandized that this is not the case, that love is eternal even if and when they decide to give Women up on sex. Coincidentally Coincidentally,, and quite conveniently, conveniently, our culture has taught them that even if the sex dies, that the man retains an absolute duty of taking taking care of them. That this is a one-way bargain bargain and patently unfair and unacceptable to men is an element never taught to them. We correct correct this misapprehension early on so that the sex, and the love, stays forever … or as long as you desire it to. Principle 9:

“Good sex is so important that it is not always possible or desired to wait until the “mood” strikes you. If the opportunity opportunity for good sex arises (bearing (bearing in mind the priorities of Principle 3, supra), start! Become a performance artist for for the one you you love! Your interest will catch up shortly and and you’ll honor the other principles above with greater fidelity than waiting around for the “mood” that may decide to never reappear.” reappear.”

This is another myth to be busted, that sex should occur occur when both parties feel like it. If this were the case there would be very little sex. Your job is to note when she seems sexually interested and then offer her great sex; and her job is the same, in reverse. While this may seem obvious to the man it must be explained to the woman, and again, early on. Follow all of these guidelines and you are mostly the way home to a good sexual relationship.

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Appendix H – Lay Report Report on Age by “Zardos” “Zardos” – Another Man’s Man’s Experience Editor’s Comment: I was of two minds about including this. First, there was Zardos’s Editor’s Zardos’s notion that, at age 30, he might somehow be called “old.” I am over twice his age, have dated pretty pretty 19 year old girls for sex only at this age, and I do not and did not consider consider myself at a disadvantage disadvantage against a guy so “young.” On the other hand, Zardos’ Zardos’ss conduct illustrates principles that would have worked for someone much, much older as well … and it is in that spirit that I include his report. By the way, way, to AMOG someone (as a verb) is to exhibit “Alpha Male Other Guy” behavior with the purpose of intimidating another guy away from your target; of “tooling” him so he loses face, respect, and status and is better off leaving. You You therefore have “AMOG’d someone.” As a noun, an AMOG is any guy who is attempting to use size and alpha male behavior to take your target away from you using similar tactics. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-= Re : ZARDOZ : LR : YOU’RE TOO OLD FOR ME From : Cliff’s List Newsletter Date : May 2, 2004 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-= =-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-= I met her at a bar, did a little role paying, push pull, kino and Facebook closed. Nothing much came of it. Then I met her again outside a different bar. bar. I happened to be hanging out with a mutual friend, so there was social proof. Some random guy was chatting her up when I re-opened. Me: Oh, it’s you again ... are you stalking me? Her: No, I would never.

The other guy looked worried. Him: Hah. Are you a stalker? Her : Yes. Yes, I am. And you’re next on the list.

They both laugh ... but he still looks nervous. He’s He’s touching her, vying for attention ... I’m looking around, leaning back, waiting for my friend. Me: You are on my Facebook list. Her: I am? Me: Yeah, we talked for while at . You kept hitting on me. Her: I did not! (But! she’s fixing her hair!) The other guy looks really worried. Me: Hey those are nice earrings, let me check them out.

She moves over to me, so I can touch her neck, her hair. hair. We chat a bit. The other guy says something dumb, trying to AMOG me ... and that’s why he loses. He tries.


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I number close her with, “We should hang out out sometime.”

Three days later I see her h er on Facebook. We chat. She invites me over over.. I agree, and then at the last moment I flake. We arrange another another meeting at her place. I go this time. Within five minutes, her legs are on my lap. I put them there. Five minutes later we’re kissing. She asks how old I am. I’m 30, she’s 19, and has issues with the age: Her: Why do you go for much younger women? Me: I don’t. I go for girls I’m attracted to. I just hope they’re mature enough to handle me.

She talks about her maturity, maturity, she believes she is. But she still has an issue with my age. I go home that night. We chat on Facebook and she tells me m e I’m much too old for her her.. I agree completely. But we should be friends. I want to talk to her about my dating life and girls I’m seeing. She doesn’t like this too much, but agrees. She invites me over for tea. I get resistance, the age issue. I say ... that’ that’ss great. I’m glad we can just be friends, because I have some dating issues you can give me great feedback on. She doesn’t like this again, but agrees. She hasn’t had sex in 6 months, although she’s very beautiful and has many suitors. She prefers to stay at home and read, watch TV, paint. She’s a bit out of the loop and has some social anxiety. “That’s because you need to get laid. I’ll take you out to meet guys, and you can help me.” She is hesitant about this idea, but agrees, since she does need to get laid. I post pictures of myself having fun with some attractive girls. She messages me, I ignore it. She messages me the next day with an invite for coffee at her place. I agree ... but flake at the last minute. She’s quite disappointed. Then, I text back an hour later, “It looks like I have a few hours after all.” I get to her place, there are candles, wine, she’s all done up and there’s a blanket on the floor. That’s where we got naked, and eventually had sex. Her idea. The key was non-resistance. I didn’t try to sell her on me; I sold her on her need for sex. Six months is a long time.

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Appendix I – Dealing with the “I Have a Boyfriend” Shit Test; Test; Notes from from the Field I ordered dinner and the only place to sit was next to an interesting looking woman. (Actually, (Actually, there were lots of others places free but the proper mindset is, “Right next to HER is the only place left to sit” and then do it; a variation of the 3-2-1-GO! directive.) She was athletic looking, about 40-42 years old, slender, slender, and had an Office Professional Professional look to her as though she might m ight be a lawyer. lawyer. Perhaps a 6 but she was the only one near near,, and thus a target for practice, and she proved to have a lively personality. I simply sat down at the table with her, smiling as I sat, and delivered the peremptory “Mind if I join you?” introduction. She had calm eyes, smiled with her entire entire face and said, “Of course not. I’d love the company company.” .” (This is the usual reaction, by the way.) way.) While pleasant I could tell that the conversation wasn’t going anywhere, other than me making her day a little brighter,, so I was preparing to exit when she took a call on her cell, turned brighter tur ned slightly away, and chatted with a girlfriend for a minute. I wasn’t really really listening as it seemed a good omen to me for leaving, that that she was disconnecting herself from me to concentrate on her cell call, when I overheard her remark to her caller that, “I told him I already had a boyfriend so he’d leave me alone.” So I stuck around for the required :02 or :03 minutes before she finished her call, and I asked her, “Did that really work? Telling some guy you’ve you’ve got a BOYFRIEND? BOYFRIEND? And that was enough enough to make him go away?” away?” Big open mouth, mouth, surprised smiling face: “Uhh, yeah. It worked. Rather Rather,, it works. I just didn’t want to talk to that guy anymore.” And this lead me into a discussion, and a practice session with with her that is worth worth reporting here, here, about how a guy who knows what he is doing can easily get around that bit o’ bullshit. I said, “Look, all guys who ‘get it’ know that all beautiful women [sic] have boyfriends all the time: no woman will ever admit she doesn’t. So I would never ask, and if you just spontaneously blurted out a ‘Tourette’ ‘Tourette’ss Thing’ about having a boyfriend, I’d either ignore ignore it or deal with it so it would have no power over me.” A discussion ensued but it was clear she was suddenly turned on by the idea of what Lance Mason calls “The Banter Battle.” I gave her the challenge. challenge. Permission for some fun. Hit me. “Go ahead, just keep saying ‘I have a boyfriend’ and I’ll show you I can outlast you, that you can’t win if the guy knows what he’s he’s doing.” She nodded and calmly fired off, “I have a boyfriend” boyfriend” in a tone suggesting she was not interested me, an excellent bit of role play. Here is the list of responses responses I gave her back, one right after the other, other, as well as I can remember them. Trust me: it’s easier to do it into their faces than recall them while typing, because you can calibrate, and feel buoyed by their facial expressions when you can see they’re getting “into” the play fighting. “I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!”


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“Right. [Ignoring it.] Seven o’clock o’clock will be too late. So make it 6 o’clock and and bring a bottle bottle of wine.” wine.” [Note: this first one surprised her her,, as though she had thought no one could ever have a comeback for her, and so she smiled so big and broadly I thought she was going going to start laughing. The subsequent responses responses just added to this response. And I don’t even consider this one of the more powerful answers, either.] either.] She says her line; I respond by quietly leaning in as though whispering something conspiratorially, conspiratorially, as though I’m a little surprised at her lack of sophistication and say, say, “Actually, “Actually, I’m not inviting the boyfriend, I’m inviting you [and switching back to ignoring the thought] so wear some nice blue jeans that show off your ass and some cute shoes to go with them.” Big smile from her at my use of the word, ass, too. You cannot over-use the word “ass” in a conversation with women. Again. “Whoa, princess, come come here (and she leans leans in). You know, know, having a boyfriend is actually a pretty pretty normal thing, so making a big deal of it makes you look ... a little ... ... weird, you know? So we’d better get going, because there’s not much time!” Once more. “Cool. “Cool. Good thing I’m not the jealous type. And don’t forget forget that bottle of Merlot I told you you to bring.” Another. “Okay Another. “Okay,, okay. okay. So we’ll invite him over to fix us breakfast breakfast tomorrow tomorrow morning... but I have to tell you, if he doesn’t make us fresh fresh squeezed orange juice? I’ll have to CLUB HIM.” She burst out laughing at at this one. One last time: “I “I have a boyfriend.” “Whoa! Stop. Come here. here. [I lean in a little as as she leans in more.] You know we’re going to have sex later on, right? Because that’s the ONLY ONLY WAY WAY we can clear the air of all this SILLY SEXUAL TENSION you keep making, so we can GET THAT BEHIND US and get on with just getting to know each other as real friends. [Shocked but smiling broadly] broadly] Really Really.. It’ll happen. Don’t worry worry ... so! ... you were saying you were going to select a nice Pinot Noir to bring to my place, wasn’t it?” There was some minor interruption, so she dealt with that but then came back immediately to the discussion. “Wow.. [Long pause.] I had no idea. That was really effective. Really, really effective. I just had no idea. That “Wow was good.” I could have added one more but it just didn’t seem to fit into the quick positive vibe we’d established, and that would have been been to say something like, “Wow, “Wow, you have a boyfriend! How cool! I’m glad you met someone who can meet all your needs, and is the 100% perfect man for you, with no reservations of your lifelong commitment to him. When are you getting getting married?” The problem with this is that it is more of a neg than dealing with the boyfriend thing and so has limited use. Also it doesn’t naturally lead lead into anything unless you forcefully shift the discussion into something like the “Television “Television Pattern” which I like to use. “I have a boyfriend” can also have a secondary meaning which you should be on the lookout for: she might be trying to say, say, “I have a boyfriend SO WE MUST BE DISCRETE,” where she is checking to see if she can play with you without compromising her current relationship, which she may not be ready to concede for so many reasons. Any of the earlier responses will work work there also so long as you thereafter thereafter give her enough feedback that she believes you will not embarrass her either in that venue, where there might be “witnesses”, 40


or to her boyfriend should you be the stalker-type stalker-type who might call her home repeatedly. repeatedly. If the boyfriend thing keeps coming back and isn’t easily dismissed, cavalierly as I hint might be accomplished above, you might want to add a discussion about how women almost always embrace the concept of “It doesn’t count” count” when calculating their own loyalties loyalties to their boyfriends. For example, many women will say, say, “I have never cheated on my husband/boyfriend!”—but if you answer, “Really? “Really? But what about me? You’ve been fucking me for 4 years. Don’t I count?,” they will say, say, “That may be true, darling, but YOU DON’T COUNT.” YOU DON’T COUNT. COUNT. If they are using you for sex, and friendship, with no intention intention of leaving their primary male sponsor (whether it be husband or boyfriend), then they consider themselves exhibiting perfect fidelity ... after the slight mathematical adjustment to leave out of the calculations those infidelities that “don’t count.” Seriously Seriously,, I have discussed the concept with women—who then quickly agreed, “Oh yeah, that’s absolutely right. I have known guys that that didn’t count [in my personal life], either!” The point is, if you discuss the concept of “I DON’T COUNT”, you are continuing to lay the foundation for her to accept you as her new temporary boyfriend, which will not replace or harm her current, main supporting boyfriend. That’s all for now. That’s now. Both an interesting interesting field experiment because because I had the balls to bring it up and practice driving her expectations around with it, followed by some later thinking about how I could have extended the conversational thread if circumstances had allowed.


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Appendix J – Body Language and Tit Displays; Displays; Notes from the Field ================================================ ================================ ================ Zip Note: Ruminations on Airport Big Tit, Cleavage Girl (2008) ================================ =============== ================================= ================ As I waited in the airline boarding area, area, I chatted with with TWO of our colleagues. colleagues. Both nice guys, both both deeply religious, and both likely to be highly disapproving of one of our number running [practice] game on a girl sitting next to us. So I couldn’t do anything but some body language language stuff and some sideways eye contact— contact— but since both guys were actively actively engaging me there wasn’t wasn’t much else to do. An opportunity missed. But not completely. completely. She was about 30 years old wearing nice, tight tight blue jeans and with short, dark brown hair.. She had a “workout” body with the exception hair exception of really, really, really nice tits which she compressed compressed under a sweater top except for an obvious perfect perfect showing of 4” deep cleavage. She was about 5’7” tall, a 9 in my book (but based on a lot of things of which “hotness” was not the biggest element); she just looked like she might be perfect perfect for me. She probably weighed 130 lbs but was a size 2. Just a lot of muscle. The first guy that I saw, who I saw before I saw her, was actually sitting across the wait-aisle (chair-row facing chair-row) chair -row) and about 3 seats down from from the girl. Since I had watched him walk over there and sit down about about 50’ ahead of me, it was clear that he had seen her and was “seeking proximity” to her. (God Damn! We male primates are SO predictable!) predictable!) I noticed her only as I SAT SAT DOWN, opposite him and with one chair space between me and the girl to my right. That was not a bad setup, given the terrible limitations of the the moment. She glanced up and gave me a quick “shit-test” smile. smile. It transmitted, “Oh, you’re you’re OLD and you’re NOT IN MY LEAGUE” with a kind of smirk before her eyes eyes darted down to her magazine. This is my FAVORITE FAVORITE RESPONSE, by the way! way! If she had done anything else I would have suspected suspected that she would not be high quality enough to trigger my interest interest after :02 minutes. So I shot back my automatic squinty eyed smile that says, “Oh, yeah, RIGHT. You WANT ME, don’t you, you little VIXEN!” It’s all about the mindset. It’s mindset. The rest of the the time I merely did passive demonstrations demonstrations of value. I dominated the drama side of the equation and when Supervisor T.G. came over (whom you probably know as a really decent guy in the office) office) I strongly accredited accredited him by pointing pointing out his credentials. credentials. You just have to visualize how I do this but anyone within earshot will know he’s both a high value male plus a REALLY COOL GUY, and of course, my tone of voice implies that I am his equal or even even superior so EVERYONE EVERYONE HERE wins. Except for the dumbshit other guy who kept proving how mono-tonal, boring, one dimensional and stupid he was ... so I had to marginalize him, vis a vis the girl. At one point Supervisor Supervisor T.G. T.G. mentioned that our company was bidding on a contract with with the Saudis that required NO WOMEN on the personnel list—so I riffed off about how much TROUBLE WOMEN WERE—where the tone of voice clearly established playfulness and not misogynist views—and then I turned to the girl, who was “ignoring me” but leaning towards me, and turned away away,, which is another basic form of primate proximity seeking behavior, behavior, a really good IOI [indicator of interest]. Turning in her direction but ostensibly talking to my friends only, I said, “take Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie”—she was reading a Hollywood-type magazine article prominently featuring those two— “Angelina is clearly the source of all problems there, it’s just so OB-vious!”

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She did not look up or towards me but she smiled. Notice this was an emotional computer computer activating remark, full of drama, and it demonstrated that I clearly was not supplicating to her—I was not the “suck up” type and did not care what she thought, but that I was willing to engage in play-fighting about harmless but fun subjects. These are good, good, anti-AFC traits traits to demonstrate. Unfortunately, I kept getting pulled back by the other two. They were clearly aware of the girl and were also Unfortunately, aware that in order order to feel in their own comfort zones, they needed me to keep engaging engaging them. I suppose that’ss a common AFC/guy thing and we do it all the time. that’ This girl gave me three more IOIs and I mention them as instructive of how important it is to carefully read their body language and responses. (1) When I got up from my seat to get my boarding pass, she also got up but circled the opposite way to get around the chair-row chair-row.. All she could do was move to a place near the ropes as though waiting for her section to be called for boarding. boarding. So she allowed me to seek proximity proximity with her. her. This in no accident but ROUTINE female behavior! And 99% of the guys would would miss it, and I don’t don’t want you to miss it. She was giving me a “go” for opening (as if I needed her approval!) (2) On board I had to sit in the way-up-front part, so I got on later and then stood in the companionway and looked aft. Her vision must have been adequate (and remember remember that many cannot see well because they don’t like to wear contacts because it makes their eyes red, and they don’t like to wear glasses, either) because I made eye contact—held it until she looked looked away first—and smirked at her again. DOMINANCE. When you ask women, “When did you first realize that you were attracted to me?” the answer is usually something about an eye contact thing thing like that. Sometimes they like to quote that line from from the movie, Jerry Maguire: “You had me at hello.” (3) When I got off, I couldn’t open the door right away for some technical reasons so when I did step out I stepped out about 3’ or 4’ behind the girl! Pure blind luck. And I did not see her until she was abreast abreast of me and turning the corner because she had been concealed behind a big fat guy in the aisle. As she walked by she smiled and SHOOK HER HEAD—which was another cool shit-test that said, “Y “You ou blew your chance with me by being tentative” but I know it can be seized back by being playfully dominant. dominant. All I had to say was, “Hey! What was up with that ‘I’m so hot you can’t talk to me’ look you gave me back there? Yeah, Yeah, yeah, princess: I saw what you thought. No, I just wanted to give you a chance to APOLOGIZE to me ... no, no, wait, I’m not done don e yet ... and buy me a cup of tea. You You know. To To MAKE UP for it. And I might migh t decide to forgive you.” I guarantee that would have worked. Cool playful fucking DOMINANCE! DOMINANCE! Also of note is the the fact I was in civilian clothes so I could get away with with it. Because of the risks of being in costume I would never never be so normal: in costume you have to dial it back a bit, in case she’s a psycho and wanted to complain to my employer.. That would be bad. employer But it was a loss. For her, her, mainly, mainly, because there will always be another perfect girl coming along momentarily for me and you.


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Other thoughts: Tits! She knew she had nice tits; tits; the cleavage cleavage thing was was not an accident. So you have have to expect to get shit-tested on her tits fairly early in the game. This is a neat subtlety I have experienced before since if a woman can CONTROL YOU with her TITS TITS she will never like or respect you. The trick is that you can’t IGNORE THE TITS: you have to appreciate them while letting her know that you aren’t controlled by them. This sounds like doublespeak doublespeak but there is a solution. The basic principle principle is this. She knows she has nice tits. tits. Her tits are are the source source of her pride and joy. joy. She has almost certainly NAMED THEM. THEM. (Y (Yes, es, really. really. This is fun to talk about later as in intimate riffing source source of material. You’ll learn of Thelma and Louise, “the Girls” or “the twins,” Laverne and Shirley, Daphne and Rachel, or Pamela Anderson’ Anderson’ss “Pancho and Leftie.” Leftie.” I kid you not.) She flaunts them and wants wants all women 9 and all non-AFC men to look at them and admire them. She also uses her tits as a quick first screen. screen. If she can determine that you are amazed amazed at her tits and slightly distracted, then she will think, “this guy is a LOW VALUE guy since he obviously doesn’t have any experience handling babies like these” and she she will lose attraction. You get blown blown off. But if you are NOT CONTROLLED by her tits, then she thinks, “What?! He is not supplicating to me! OH, NO! He must routinely have access to boobs better than mine so he is … [GASP!] … HIGH VALUE!” VALUE!” And she feels attraction, just like that. that. Her behavior reflects these beliefs. She’ She’ss going to do “tit displays” for you—arching her back after accidentally undoing a button or two so you can accidentally look down her cleavage, plus leaning forward for a better angle and turning her head to “look for someone … over there …” to give you the opportunity to really,, really check them out— during your tea/coffee together, really together, and then see if she can “bust you” looking at them. If she can arch, look away, away, and suddenly snap her attention back at just the right moment—and she’s she’s spent a lifetime practicing that timing and sequence—she will win. SHE IS BETTER AT THIS SHIT TEST THAN YOU so don’t even try to compete. Don’t stare but also also don’t care. If she accuses you of looking at her tits—a common common thing is for them to point at their eyes and say say,, “my eyes are up here, mister”—you have to do a couple of things. First, be non-reactive. non-reactive. Just laugh at her like she’ she’ss a little girl who is nervous and intimidated intimidated around you. BE NON-REACTIVE. This should be easier because you’re you’re being apprised of the risk here, now, now, so you can prepare yourself yourself mentally. mentally. One simple method to is simply not hear her; that is, react react as though she has said nothing at all. There is no requirement requirement that you even acknowledge a shit-test shit-test so sometimes this simple answer is the best available to you. Second, call her on the tactic. There are a couple of things you can say, say, depending on the level of aggression you feel like lofting her way. way. Re-frame the issue as her trying to point out how how pretty she is to get your attention. Say this, this, for example,

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Another subtlety: women do NOT want low class, class, beta-males, faking alpha-wannabes, alpha-wannabes, weak men to look at their their tits; and to these men, they will transmit the message “I am not a sex object and stop objectifying me with your creepy stares!” Sometimes they’ll even say those words out loud. Just be aware that that is NOT how they want you to be affected, and that they want YOU to look at, enjoy, value, and be controlled by their wonderful, special, amazing tits. Do everything there except the part about “being controlled by.”

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“Whoa! Princess! I get it. Yeah, I do: you’re pretty. But pretty is just the basic cover charge to get into the game. Look around: pretty is common. It’s everywhere. But ‘pretty’ always fades. What’s important is what’s in here [holding st against your sternum].”

Another response response re-frames her shit-test as her being into you, and being too obvious about it, “Oh, my God! You’re INTO me, aren’t aren’t you? Otherwise you wouldn’t wouldn’t be arching your back and trying to show off your breasts so much! “Listen—you’re doing OKAY OKAY with me ... so far ... so just relax and be yourself. Don’t be nervous. You’re You’re actually doing pretty good right now ... so long as you DON’T SCREW THINGS UP in the next few minutes ...” 10

That last part is critical—”so long as you DON’T SCREW THINGS UP in the next few minutes ...” —because that is humorous and is the compensating neg to the compliment you just gave her, which can NEVER be allowed to sit there as though spoken by an AFC. YOU MUST DO THAT LAST CLAUSE to get the thing to work! MUST MUST MUST MUST.. Here’s something else I’ve said. “Wo Here’s “Would uld you stop squeezing your boobs like that? [Then nicely nicely,, as an aside] It’s coming off a little … TRY-HARD.” TRY-HARD.” And grin to let her know that HER TITS are NOT CONTROLLING YOU, and it is a playful flirt. You called her on her bullshit, which is a good thing, but you did it in a nice way and that keeps you in the driver’s seat. Your body language is important and here is the general idea. Most guys [wrongly!] will lean back slightly, slightly, drop their chin, and cross their their arms—in a defensive posture known to primates everywhere. everywhere. Better is to open your chest posture slightly and either step in a bit if you’re more than 3’ away, away, or if standing close then LEAN IN SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY. How much to step in or lean in? It has to feel like you are sliding into her personal space and perfectly comfortable being there and OWNING her her.. After dealing with the the initial shit-test distract her by asking her something, to shift shift gears before her brain catches up. “Anyway ... so what’s with this COMPANY COMPANY you work for, for, anyway? Can’t they just let you stay in one place so you can actually get some some work done? And why haven’t you worked up the courage courage to offer to buy me a cup of tea while you continue to hit on me?” One girl had been trying to own me for several days and in a fit of frustration, because I had been nonreactive to all her high intensity intensity “I’m so pretty” shit-testing, shit-testing, was to suddenly open her coat and “flash” “flash” me. A long, wide-open, :10 :10 second flash. Her gaze, however however,, was cold, focused, focused, and evaluating: not sexy at all. I didn’t react except to point to one tit and say, “It … it’s a little bit … SMALLER than the other one, don’t you think?” And then I laughed. At that moment I OWNED her ass! Or more precisely, precisely, her breasts.

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If she’s doing something that you can interpret [frame!] as trying to gain favor with you, you can nod approvingly while slyly observing, “Okaaaay … now you’re SUCKING UP to me … I LIKE THAT in a girl!” And if you don’t get the double-entendre here, you’re not paying attention!


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My last thoughts about her tits: if she is really obvious about showing them off and comfortable with her body, she may try to point out that you are a PIG for looking at her in an “inappropriate way” or some other shit. The way to handle that is to BE NON- REACTIVE—slowly RAISE YOUR HAND as if to tell her to be quiet— and SLOWLY and DELIBERATELY say, “W h o a … I’m not … yet … finished” as you slowly continue to examine her body as though she were a manikin. This is funny funny,, dominant, and has the amazing ability to turn women on right there. (Ask me to demonstrate if you can’t picture this working.) Years ago in college this one average nice looking girl with HUGE PERFECT tits—I’ll never forget the black T-shirt she was wearing: “Why Don’t You Come Up and Simi Sometime? Simi Valley Vineyards” —knocked on my dorm room door. door. She was nice to me … but as she talked she shit-tested shit-tested me by arching her back and doing a seriously impressive impressive tit display … and I collapsed. Totally otally.. I crash and burned: “Ahh, ahh, ahh, ahh, ahh” and so forth. Her face went cold, cold, she backturned me and never never spoke to me again. again. There’ There’ss a lesson in there amidst my pain and that is that it’ it’ss important to get this tit thing under control. The lesson she handed me is reflected in everything I’ve discussed in this note. From the girl’s girl’s perspective, her initial sense is that she wants you to look at her tits but then, based on your reaction and her her assessment of your your reaction, you you get slotted into one of two categories. categories. If you confidently check out her whole body KNOWING KNOW ING SHE IS WATCHING WATCHING YOU and you DO NOT PAUSE PAUSE at her tits? She knows you are accustomed to being with girls like her, so big tits are cool but nothing special to you, and she sees you as high value. But if you initially make eye contact and then try to surreptitiously STARE STARE AT AT HER TITS when she looks away, away, and she then “busts” you? Her reaction will be that you must NOT NOT be accustomed to girls like her, those with big tits and concommitent high value, and so she experiences revulsion and disgust as to you—and you’re dead in the water. water. Worse Worse,, to her friends she will describe her feeling about you as being “creepy.” “creepy.” Never a good thing. One way to practice, without having to be in the actual presence of a woman shit- testing with tit displays, is to watch videos of such encounters and then reverse-program yourself by asking, and practicing, “What would I do in such a situation?” One place to find these is Metacafe on the internet. internet. This service downloads mini-ideo links posted posted by subscribers and is not unlike Youtube. Youtube. While most of these are to games and photo collections, one series is from a Russian skit-comedy television show that features beautiful girls suddenly made naked in a Candid Camera-type setting. setting. For example, a pretty pretty blond girl is demonstrating demonstrating a washing machine to a customer customer … and her clothes are “accidentally” “accidentally” pulled off by the spin cycle! Man is surprised, shocked and OWNED. Or the girl is standing at a bus stop to ask a man for the time … and her clothes are suddenly ripped off when the bus leaves! Sometimes a nurse who is taking a man’s man’s blood pressure … and when she pulls out the stethoscope her tits pop out, too! too! The Russians seem to love watching watching girls in all kinds of unexpected situations have their [perfect, large] large] tits pop out; but then again, I like that, that, too. So funny! Silent Russian TV, TV, in the Benny Hill tradition, except with sexy nudity 2 or 3 times every week. Another genre are mini-videos where where some American American girl shit-tests and and OWNS a guy working in a clothing store. One video has a big-titted blond in a bikini have some nerdy male AFC AFC clerk help her to “fit” test several bikini tops. Naturally he gets OWNED, where where getting owned is the opposite of passing her her shit-test. Another girl asks for for help selecting clothes clothes from the rack and suddenly pulls her tube top top down and asks, “Do my boobs look crooked to you?” Same result, everybody laughs. 46


This is all in good humor but it inspires the question, If you encountered something like this how would you handle it? This is not suggesting preparedness preparedness for television but to practice the more more likely tit display shittesting you will face in real life. Another author suggested suggested that one useful useful purpose for strip club titty titty bars was to grant men proximity to big, flashing, shaking breasts where the men can practice being non- reactive, recognizing that our DNA-driven impulse is to be anything but non-reactive! We’re We’re supposed to get aroused by titties being shaken in our face, even as such reaction defines us as of lesser experience, fewer prior opportunities, and current lower value! Just, get used to being around big, perfect tits so that they no longer have the power to distract and control you. (This might be an expensive education, and it might be one that subjected subjected you to a lot of distractions from the intended lesson, but I think the guy is on to something.) How do you react? react? BE NON-REACTIVE. NON-REACTIVE. Show no emotional emotional reaction. Do not come across across as being “owned.” Non-reactivit Non-reactivityy signals that you are superior to her status status and that she has no special power over you, except such power as you shall graciously grant her. her. The power of your conversation, and proximity to your Alpha character. character. By being non-reactive she cannot control you with her tits, and that means you pass. Next, be prepared prepared with a standard response. response. It is delivered in a calm, helpful voice with only a tinge of of embarrassment … but the embarrassment is for her awkward situation, which she created due to her social ineptness. ineptne ss. Yeah, that’s the FRAME you project: that she is a little off-kilter and you are the guy noticin noticing g it and helping her back to a secure social place. Any of the responses responses I suggest above would work wonderfully wonderfully.. And if you can’t can’t remember them (which (which should never be the problem problem when you’re watching a MINI-VIDEO MINI-VIDEO to TRAIN YOURSELF!) you can always just go like: “Ahhhhh … nice try, princess, but that will come soon enough … so long as you’re a good girl. Now I think you should buy me a cup of coffee, to celebrate the fact that it’s ofcial, that you’re really into me …”

Well, that’s that’s it for now. Good luck and good huntin hunting. g.


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Appendix K – It’s It’s Never Too Too Late to Adopt a New Life Plan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-= Zip Note - Chad the 57 Year Old Welder’s Exquisite Recovery! (2008) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-= Chad and I were friends in kindergarten and the first grade (before the 1960s!), but b y the end of the first grade our sensibilities about who our “peers” “peers” and playmates were divided along class class lines. That is, I (appar(apparently) was perceived perceived as one of the smart kids and he was was not. So I didn’t really really notice or remember remember him until we were accidentally accidentally reacquainted a few years ago. ago. Chad reminded me of our earlier times together together on the church dirt mound, which substituted for a playground (circa 1957) and in Miss Smith’ Smith’ss first grade class, room 3 (1958-59). It seems I also attended not only his first wedding but his second, second, ten years later (but my memory here may be forgiven because I attended as caterer with my mom’ mom’ss business and not as an invited guest). I remembered Chad as being religious. religious. Actually—extremely Actually—extremely,, righteously pious- religious, religious, the type that always carried a pocket Bible. Bible. He was never preachy preachy but everything everything he did was in conformance conformance with church edict. edict. When he had a decision to make he consulted with his pastor. pastor. (I’m not sure about about you but in my world this is a RECIPE FOR DISASTER ... but no one was asking me.) His marriages in each case dissolved when his wife left him for another man in his church, in one case one of the assistant pastors. He assumed—wrongly—t assumed—wrongly—that hat the church would side with him since it was clearly his wife (later (later,, wives) who had been “adulterous,” and that the parishioners would join him in forgiving her and helping her come back to the light. (Since you and I live in the Real World World we can already see how THAT’s THA T’s not gonna happen!) Instead, because she was better “connected” “connected ” to the church hierarchy, hierarchy, because she had been literally screwing them, it was HE who was ostracized ... and he was ultimately forced to leave his church. This was devastating devastating to him. We were reacquainted reacquainted just before his second marriage went from “fine” to “troubled” to suddenly “terrifyingly out of whack destroyed.” destroyed.” He actually asked me what to do, which which was a little weird weird because I didn’t didn’t know him that well, but he was distraught and for a physically strong guy to appear like that ... well, I gave it a shot. I gave him a quick summary of how a man should decide and think in life, and it goes like this. Trust yourself and try to think things through. I explained the concept of “war gaming” thought thought possibilities out and give him practice. practice. If life is confusing trust only those with proven proven track records for advice; advice; and then never take it out of hand but continue thinking through through the problem. Your preacher is not on the list of advisors, advisors, by the way. As to your faith, keep the faith but never never believe those lying lying sons of bitches that call themselves pastors, rabbis, ministers, ministers, priests, priests, or imams!11 Stop looking for guidance in the Bible! If you haven’t picked up the general, moral thrust of the Bible by now, “carefully reading” individual passages for guidance in specific situations is NOT going to improve your life. 11

Yes, I know that by the doctrine of just about everyone everyone else except Non-theistic Darwinists that that I will burn in some multi-denominational Hell for my apostatic beliefs; but as a matter of rational functionalism, consider giving my advice a go before taking whatever plunge you’re considering.

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Oh, yeah. And STOP PUTTING WOMEN ON A PEDESTAL. You’re more valuable than they and you can have any of them you want. Did I mention, “and never even THINK about getting married married ever again?” This took maybe maybe :05 minutes. And it stuck. He absorbed all all of it. Over the next next 2 years, every time he ran into me at the shopping center or gas station station he’d stop and pleasantly chat. He was always discrete discrete and his questions were always well thought out. He took notes and on a few occasions stopped by my house for clarification, but in doing so was an exceptional exceptional model for discretion. He is one of a handful of guys whom I know can be trusted to never violate OpSec just because he wants to know something. Our reacquaintance was ten ten years ago. Want to hear how things turned out for him? First, he found a new church but he worships and prays for himself and generally seems to discount anything from the pastors. This might be due to the fact that his prior experience with his exes was that these men were not to be trusted as a breed, a warped view I happen to share share from prior professional experiences. experiences. For him now his faith is a personal experience, not yet another variation on Jim Jones and Jonestown. Second, he made the obvious decision to never get married again. again. He believed me when when I said he was higher value than any of the women he’d meet, and that despite what his former churches and wives said, there were HUNDREDS HUNDREDS of beautiful women out there for him. In fact, he runs into new women every day. day. He has some some challenges. He is still still 58 years old and his hair hair is thinning, but his weight is good. As a Master Master Welderr his skill is in demand and he is likely to remain employed for as long as he can handle his equipment. Welde But he has a problem with his voice box, which is deteriorating for some unknown etiology, etiology, and his ability to speak is slowly abandoning him. He has perhaps 10% of his voice left, and he sounds like a case of lethally lethally degenerative laryngitis. So I saw him at the supermarket last summer and he was buying picnic supplies with his girlfriend, a very tarty looking 35 year old Ukrainian girl. Slender Slender,, blond, no bra and short short shorts. Big smile, half closed eyes, and, “a pleasure to meet any friend of Chad’s, sir.”


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Appendix L – Body Language and the Experience of of Age

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-= Zip Note – Body Language, an Officer’s Bearing, John Travolta Travolta and You You Date: May 2, 2009 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-= My friends and I are what most students of the social arts would call “old”: mostly in our 50s, several in our 60s, and a handful or two younger than that. So a common question arises in any of our discussions, What advantages, if any, accrue to us as older men that give us the advantage over younger men? Assume I see a much younger woman I would like to check out to see whether whether she’s she’s good enough for me to have me sexually. sexually. In her eyes, what advantages would would she feel that would pull her to me and away from college boy over there? OH MY GOD! Where to start?! We have SO MANY advantages over these 25 year old “boys” that my mind boggles at the opportunities to exploit and expound upon them. However, However, given the fact that I have already titled this one based on the notion of Body Language, I’ll go with that. Before I describe the advantage that YOU, my friend, have over younger guys I want you to engage in a small thought experiment. Picture John Travolta Travolta in the movie The General’s General’s Daughter from 1999. It doesn’t really matter if you’ve seen it but it isn’t a bad movie. The point here is that John Travolta Travolta is a professional professional actor and in this film plays a senior grade Army Sergeant, an Army Internal Affairs Criminal Investigator that investigates the murder of the Commanding Officer’s Officer’s young Wes Westt Point graduate daughter daughter,, a young, beautiful and new lieutenant. In every scene Travolta Travolta bears himself like a proud, self-confident Army sergeant. His posture is correct, his movements are graceful (if that word applies to a stubby body like his), and he exhibits no extraneous movements that might be called fidgeting. He does this because he is an actor. actor. It’s great body language. It’s language. When the commanding General (played by actor James Cromwell) Cromwell) tries to AMOG him, Travolta’s character doesn’t flinch; he acts correctly, deferentially in accord with their relative ranks; but in body language treats it as just another another shit-test and keeps moving. Pretty cool picture picture to have in your head, wouldn’t you say? Now picture John Travolta Travolta in Pulp Fiction from 1994 where he plays a greasy, greasy, low class thug buddy of Samuel L. Jackson. Travolta Travolta now slouches, even even when he seems to be trying to stand up straight. He bobs his head in agreement with anyone superior to him who is talking. Sure, he’s he’s a sympathetic guy; you might even want to hang with him someday someday,, if you ever moved into his trailer park. But his body language conveys his low value. BECAUSE JOHN TRAVOLT TRAVOLTA IS AN ACTOR.

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Back to you and me! You and I have spent a lifetime developing and perfecting the body language language that says “I am leader.” leader.” We hit the right note every time. We don’t come across as Try Hard or pretentio pretentious; us; we’re not begging for others to “let” us be the leader. We are what we are and that’s the natural group leader. It feels to us and appears to others that we have achieved this as a natural birthright. When we’re around others of our profession we tend to overlook this, but to outsiders looking in we’re never competing for the attention but look like a gaggle of guys who are all leadership skilled. Here’s Here’s the point: YOU NATURALLY LOOK LIKE JOHN TRAVOLTA IN THE GENERAL’S DAUGHTER! The major difference is that that Travolta Travolta is a chameleon who can be the Pulp Fiction thug, thug, and you cannot. If the movie director paid you a million dollars you might look the part if you stood still, but the instance you moved you would lose credibility because you have the FIXED NATURAL look of a leader. So you got THAT going for you, which is HUGE. Not that you can’t can’t improve upon it, by improving your posture, studying yoga or taekwondo, taekwondo, or adjusting your wardrobe—but the basics of your leadership self- confidence are unchangeably hardwired in to your personality.. When you walk into a room, women notice. personality notice. The point of this memo was to give you the recognition you deserve so the next time you walk among mere mortals—anywhere where where women congregate to shop, walk, work, or drink coffee—you’ll understand what they see, and that knowledge will lift your game. [If you didn’t FEEL anything after reading reading this [Appendix] memo—READ IT AGAIN. I want you all to internalize the value that the world sees you as the natural alpha. Your Your game may have many deficits, and you may have just started your journey out of AFCdom towards towards the Light, but get this straight: straight: you do NOT need need help in learning how to display and and DHV yourself as Alpha. Alpha. NOW GO OUT THERE THERE AND LEARN!] Good luck and good hunting!


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Appendix M – Things to Add to Memo Re: Shit-T Shit-Testing esting On Age Regarding women shit-testing me, and and often on my age, I have two in my kit for auto- responding. responding. First, men must plan on carrying the wood for at least 95% of the conversation until we can get the new girls settled down enough to ... talk ... slowly. Second, Second, we can bust on them for being tongue-tied in the presence of a cool, good- looking guy like me. I like to say say,, “Oh, are are you nervous? nervous? Oh, don’t be. You’re doing fine. Relax and enjoy the moment. I’ll let you know if you start to screw things things up ...” (Note: I like to use double-entendre words here, like suck or screw, screw, to get their mind warmed up in an NLP sort of way. way. Another example, not used here: “Okaaay, “Okaaay, so you’re sucking up to me ... GOOD ... I like that in a girl!” I use that last one a lot.) As to being shit-tested shit-tested incessantly and and it a particularly nasty nasty,, bitchy way: you are not affected affected because while other guys may be scared and turn away, your mindset and the presentation of body language that you send back is that “you can see she is really just afraid, and that behind that tough girl facade is a frightened little girl with feelings ... etc. (Research: This may be in the MM Routines Book, or in Magic Bullets, in Frank Kermit’s “Everything” “Everything” doc, Lance Mason’s routine notes, Style’s Style’s notes, or even OFB’s. Copy that routine here, and tie it together with the shit test, “Eeewwwww, old men are icky!”)

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Appendix N – “King Karl” is Nearly 70 and Dating Women Women in Their 20s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= Cliff’ss List : I Could Be Older Than This Hottie’ Cliff’ Hottie’ss Grandpa (2010) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= KingKarl: Here’s the deal. I was married for 32 years. Got divorced in my mid 60s, and didn’t have a clue what I was gonna do as far as the “dating scene.” Got into the game about a year ago, and it’s been awesome. I’m a big fan of Ross [Jeffries] and Swinggcat, and their material has helped me out a lot. But when I first started out, I had a real problem. I was 65, and I realized I was only into girls who were 18, 19, 20 years old. Women my age just don’t do it for me. And women in their 30s and 40s ... some of them are fine, but my experience has been they usually have too much baggage by that age. At least for me. That’s not to say there’s That’s there’s anything wrong with them. I know a lot of guys have great success with women this age and I’m not knocking that at all. But I like the carefree, unburdened, adventurous spirit that blossoming young women have. I’d be out sometimes right after my divorce and just walking past these pretty young things in their sandals and halter tops made me feel alive like I hadn’t in years. Seemed like a far cry to me though. I know a lot of guys in the community tell you looks don’t matter, matter, but let’s face it: I’m a short, bald guy with a belly belly.. I figured I’d have to settle, and maybe if I was lucky I’d get to bang some frustrated housewives in their 40s. Didn’t change my reality though. I wanted the young hotties. There’s a city college not far from where I live. I’d go to the coffee shop there sometimes just to check out the There’s girls. Of course I’d always take a book or something so I wouldn’t be too obvious. Everything changed for me one day when this gorgeous little blonde sat down next to my table with a friend. She couldn’t have been more than 19. Her friend was ugly and fat, and kept looking at me suspiciously like she thought I was a dirty old man or something. But it didn’t didn’t matter because pretty soon soon the HB thinks he’s he’s stressed or something, and her fat friend keeps telling him once he’s back home he’ll realize how much he missed her. her. Pretty hard for me to keep quiet, but I manage. Then the whole game changes: the friend leaves.


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Here’s my chance. I don’t even need to think of an opener, the conversation is right in front of me. But I Here’s hesitate. Seriously, Seriously, what hope do I have? I could be older than this hottie’s grandpa. Hell, I probably am. But I keep thinking ... I used to bang chicks like this all the time. Only thing that’s that’s changed is the way I look. The rest? Same old me who always had success. In fact, I’m better now because I have so m uch more experience. Think of it this way: the average 18 year old guy has probably been with a few girls. If he’s good looking maybe he’s been with more than a few. But the best-looking 18 year old on earth can’t have more experience than a guy who’ who’ss been getting laid for 4 and a half decades. So there was no reason for this girl not to want me, and every reason why she should. I turn to her and say, “Your friend is wrong, you know.” She looks up. “Excuse me?” “About your boyfriend. He doesn’t want you anymore. And I think deep down you know that, don’t you?” I couldn’t believe what I was saying. Where did I get the balls to talk like that? I fully expected her to get up and slap me then and there. Instead, she just looked at me in silence for a moment and then nodded. Feeling bold, I went on. “Problem is, they just don’t raise ‘em to be men anymore.” Notice by implication I’m saying that the real men are the older generation, like me. “I see the way these young guys act, they’re worse than girls.” Again, for a second second I think I’ve gone too too far. far. But she laughs. “Y “You ou got that right!” she says. Then she spends a few minutes gushing about how much she’ she’ss done for this guy, waiting for him all this time and the whole bit. There’ There’ss no way I’m gonna sit here holding this girl’ girl’ss hand like her fat friend. I interrupt her. her. “You know, I hear this a lot from girls. You want him to be upfront with you, but in my experience, most girls can’t handle complete honesty from a guy. They want everything sugar sugar-coated. -coated. Are you saying you could really be open to a man telling you exactly what’s on his mind?” “Yes! That’s what I want!” she says. And then almost like she expects me to have the answer, she asks, “So what do you think it is!?” I scratch my chin, looking thoughtful. “Well, you’re an attractive girl, so that’s that’s not the problem.” After qualifying her I wanted to give her a little value . but only a little. “Honestly, in my experience? It’s probably the sex.” She looked confused. “What do you mean?”

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It was time for another gamble. “I’m going to be blunt with you, okay? Girls your age are beautiful. And you know it, don’t you?” She smiled and nodded, probably expecting some kind of elaborate compliment from this sweet old man. “That’s the problem. You “That’s You think your looks are enough to keep your guy satisfied. And so does he ... until he meets a woman who has more than just looks.” “What do you mean?” she asked, puzzled again. “We “We’ve ’ve always had good sex.” She was opening up to me nicely. I decided to keep it up. “You “You met this guy in high school, right?” She nodded. “See? You You only think that’ that’ss good sex because you don’t have anything to compare it to. Haven’t you noticed a lot of young guys these days are into the whole cougar thing? They might run around with these little cuties in high school, but then they get to college. They meet an older woman who has been around the block a few times and really knows how to please a man . and they don’t look back.” I was being pretty sneaky: qualifying her and playing up the advantages of an older lover by explaining why guys do it. It seemed to be working, but then she tried testing me: “Then how come you never see younger girls with older guys?” I was completely unshaken. “Oh, you do, from time to time,” I said. “Rich old guys like Hugh Hefner keep hot young girls around as trophies. But the truth is, older guys like older women for the same reason younger guys do . experience always makes you better in bed.” She couldn’t believe it. This chick was used to having the edge from her looks, and I could sense her getting desperate as she realized that they weren’t weren’t enough to keep her boyfriend around ... or even a 65 year old stranger in a coffee shop. “So you’re telling me you would turn down a younger woman who was interested in you?” she asked. “That would depend on the girl,” I said. “Don’t get me wrong: some girls your age definitely know their way around the bedroom. But they’re pretty rare. And those girls make up for lack of experience with other things.” “Like what?” If this went too much further, further, extraction was going to be a problem, so I decided to do it now. “Listen,” I said. “I’d like to help you, but ... maybe this isn’t the best place. Take a walk with me.” She looked around, then giggled; she’d actually lost track of where she was and what she was talking about. That’s got to be a good thing, I figured.


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There was a park across the street so I took her there. As soon as we were relatively alone she asked me, “So what is it these girls have?” I wanted her to spell it out, so I played dumb. “Which girls?” It was cute: she looked around and then in a low voice said, “These young girls that can keep a man satisfied.” “Well, “We ll, a sense of adventure, for one.” Right on cue, she answered, “I’m adventurous!” But I wasn’t going to push that one. “That’s good,” I said. “Then you’ve taken the first step. But the next one is much harder.” “What’s the next step?” “Honesty,” I said. “Which is really just freedom with what you want.” “What do you mean?” she asked. “Honesty,” “Well, “We ll, when was the last time you saw your boyfriend?” I asked. She told me it had been almost a year year.. “And you’ve been faithful to him all that time?” “Of course,” she said. “So you haven’t had sex in an entire year year,” ,” I said. “That’s not easy to live with. Sometimes, you really want it badly, don’t you?” She blushed. “See?” I said. “That’ “That’ss what I mean: m ean: freedom means not being embarrassed about your desires.” We walked in silence for a moment, then in a low voice she said, “I d o.” “Do what?” I asked. “You know,” she said. “Want it.” “So you’re telling me it hasn’t been easy being faithful to this guy?” I asked, and she shook her head. “Because you’d like to be having way more sex, wouldn’t you?” She nodded. “It feels good to admit it, doesn’t it?” I asked. “T “To o just let all your desire out and say what you really want.” She laughed a little shyly and said that it did. Then a moment later she added, “It’s weird weird but ... this is really turning me on.” “That’s what I mean by being free,” I said. “You have no idea how good sex can be when you’re really free.” She was quiet for a moment, then looked at me and said “But I want to.”

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I’d timed it perfectly, because because my flat was just on the other side of the park, and we’d reached it. I smiled at her slyly and said. “This is my place. Are you coming up?” She just grinned and didn’t say anything, which I decided to take as a yes. Seems I was right, because she followed me inside. When it was over she told me that her military boyfriend never fucked her like that. Which probably means the chump never bothered to turn her on like that. Go figure. Since then, I’ve been working that angle with these much younger girls: taking the wise older guy approach but then qualifying them a lot and playing up their lack of experience as a disadvantage with all men. I can’t say that I’ve had success every time-sometimes the age gap is just too much for them-but so far I have been getting fairly consistent results with this.


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