A thread on the site Kiwifarms Kiwifarms discussing discussing the youtuber named Coach Red Pill (CRP), has been making the rounds for the past month and a half, having come up heavily in the aftermath of Kraut’s meltdown. After looking into the information presented in the thread, it’s obvious the thread is being used to push a dishonest, smear job against CRP. The thread originates from a former Gamergater named King of /pol/ (a.k.a. KoP, Armored Toast) and The Guardian. The later is most known for being the a whistleblower from Kraut’s servers. I highly encourage you to have ha ve the Kiwifarms thread handy, as The Guardian wants to reframe what was posted, and lie about how the facts were initially presented. I will work my way though the most obvious lies, then to the meat of the accusations of CRP being a con-man, and end on his rape allegation. I’m not going to bother with the Spencer connection, which CRP discusses here.. here
On CRP being a “Male Feminist Pretending to be Alt Right” Claim: CRP was a male feminist
From the Kiwifarms thread:
Truth: This account is from “The Roosh V Forum” which uses “Male Feminist” and other amusing
titles as a post ranking. Evidence:
The Guardian reframes this outright lie as a joke. joke.
In the context of the full thread, it is obviously being presented as truth. Vee even stated it as fact on the Warski stream. It was even in the title of the thread!
Even if the RVF account was inserted as a cryptic joke, it makes you wonder what else was just a joke or being misrepresented. Guardian: “And [him being a male feminist] matched up perfectly. What he Bonus: From the Guardian: typed in, what he posted under that account on the Roosh V Forum was fuckin’, something that would fall under a god damn damn male feminist statement. Let’s look at CRP’s single Roosh V forum post: “Diane Keaton said Woody Allen had balls of steel. Nebbishly and all, he’s someone to emulate. He’s the only working filmmaker today who does not have to show his script to the financiers or to the actors he casts -yet. He gets the money and actors he wants. An objective lesson for all of us.” That really sounds like the rantings of a male feminist out to show those misogynist on the Roosh V Forum!
Link to post
On CRP being a “failed game writer” and a failed author Claim: CRP took false credit for the video game Soldier of Fortune by writing a book about it
Truth: He never wrote the book “Postmortems from Game Developers”
Link to Amazon Page
The Guardian has doubled down, and lies by saying the saying the book being referenced was CRP’s later book .
(From JF’s Discord, search “Acrobat” on his server before he deletes this comment)
Honestly look at the thread, and tell me that post was not referencing Postmortems when the post says “trying to ride it’s coat-tails with a fucking b ook” which is followed directly with a photo of that Game Dev book. I checked every damn official blurb blurb of of his later book Acrobat , there is not mention of the author’s involvement with the game Soldier of Fortune , so even if he used the scrapped script, the game was never mentioned in the promotion of the book. And the book Acrobat is not ever mentioned in the thread itself! This is another desperate attempt to reframe the information presented, instead of admitting to a mistake or a lie. Claim: CRP is a failed “game writer” and author:
From Tweet Above: “...CRP was a failed game writer.” Truth: CRP has always said he was just a consultant consultant:: ”I did consulting work on a couple of video
games. Not because I cared about video games, I think they’re foolish. But a gigs a gig.” This is supported by the proper credits of the game: game :
Even the very Game Dev book they falsely claimed CRP wrote makes it clear his role was as a consultant:
The Guardian will misrepresent his misrepresent his actual role on the game to say he was a “failed game writer”
He is purposefully twisting the idea of what a consultant does, which is a fancy way of saying “Paid Advisor.” From the sounds of it, they got exactly what they needed for the game: “Although the full story was never used, some elements of it were, and the process made us realize exactly what we wanted from the game and how to get it.” As far as being a “failed storyteller” storyteller” goes, the Game Dev book makes it clear he was brought in as a consultant because he was “a hot selling writer.” CRP’s book Counterparts was licensed in the U.K., France, Germany, Holland, Spain and Latin America. This America. This would imply it was also translated, not something publishing firms would do for a dud pulp novel. This would all clearly suggest CRP was a successful selling author at one time.
On CRP Being a Conman Claim: CRP is a Scam Artist
Truth: I could only find one person in his professional career has accused CRP of being a
conman, that being his former business partner economist Steve Keen. Claim: CRP’s “con” of economist Steve Keen was reported on in an Economic magazine.
They use this tweet as tweet as their Economic Magazine in the thread:
Truth: That was a parody twitter of an Australian property magazine
Full Twitter
No actual news agency covered the story. The only place you will find the incident mentioned (other than Steve Keen or CRP) are are niche economic forums forums,, and the occasional comment on articles. The Guardian even admits this truth: truth:
...and therefore admits he and King of /pol/ were lying, exaggerating how well known and important Keen and CRP’s business dispute was. As stated stated in the thread: “this gained so much attention that a Economics magazine wrote about this very topic!” While I’m sure there is deep discussions of the Australian housing market going on on that forum, a four page thread on the matter would suggest this was a fart in the wind in the hard-nosed world of Post-Keynesian economic blogs. Bonus: per tweet above “...They were stating the fact that they were getting scammed out of their
money after Keen lost control of his on site and couldn’t stop the charges…” This is what was actually discussed on one of the forums:
Claim: CRP scammed Economist Steve Keen
Truth: The supposed “Con” was in reality a classic case of a failed business partnership, with the
partners turning on each other, both looking to get that last “fuck you” in. A brief outline of what happened: ● Stev Steve e Kee Keen n bac back k in in 201 2013 3 lost his tenured professorship with the University of Western Australia when his department was dissolved ● CRP wanted wanted to try to monetiz monetizing ing a blog, blog, and offered offered time time and investment investment to to turn Keen’s Keen’s then popular “Debunking Economics” blog into a subscription site ● They did not reach their expected expected subscriptio subscription n and revenue revenue goals goals ● Keen misinte misinterpted rpted numbers numbers,, seeing seeing each month’s month’s subscribers subscribers as new subscri subscribers, bers, even if they were the same as last months (see DM below) ● Keen wanted to call it quits, quits, CRP wanted to keep going ● They get get into into a battle battle over over the domain name “debunk “debunkingeco ingeconomic nomics.com s.com”, ”, with with Keen claiming they had a deal he could get his domain back for a dollar at any time ● This This lead leads s to to Kee Keen n to to go go on on a smear a smear campaign to get CRP to capitulate capitulate that that was very similar to the tirad he unleashed on his former employer . ● CRP agrees agrees to give give back back the domain domain on the condition conditions s Keen stops stops his his smear smear campaign campaign against him and refund him money he invested into Keen’s other blog
Keen has only ever provided emails on the matter, has never shown the official business contracts and clauses regarding the domain within the partnership, never pursue legal action, and did get his domain back from the web designer. To designer. To say this make CRP a “conman” is at best a stretch. You have to view it in the context of a failed business partnership, where both parties displayed questionable behavior. Guardian likes to build up the fact that CRP said in a video as to have made $16’000 Bonus: The Guardian likes from the website:
What he conveniently leaves out is CRP in that very video explains Keen made money: money: “At the end of the day I came out ahead like 10, 15 grand. This guy came out 40, 50 grand because I was eating the cost.” As far as “not eating the cost” he was the one hosting and hiring the web developer to work on the site, so in other words eating the primary costs. It should also be made clear that the demand about the money isn't about Debunking Economics, but a seperate website project. From the email: “Refund the US$7,500 I invested in revamping and refitting your regular blog. I'll eat the money I spent on the DE site, which was in excess of US$18,000. But you refund what I invested in your regular blogging site, which I didn't need to, and only did to keep you happy.
CRP “Possible Rapist?” Claim: CRP was accused of rape
Truth: CRP was charged by a college hearing with “forcibly kissing” a girl and sending her
threatening emails. It was found the girl completely lied about the emails but the “sexual assault” (kissing) charge stuck. He was suspended for 3 college semesters, in addition to experiencing severe social isolation for the rest of his education at Dartmouth. Dartmouth. Do you think a college would give someone who they found to be a rapist a three semester suspension, and let them back in to graduate? CRP goes into details of his experience here here and and here here.. This lecture lecture goes goes into more depth into the nature of college sexual assault hearings. ,
Conclusion The main Takeaways are: 1. The Kiwifarms Kiwifarms thread thread is full of half-trut half-truth h and outright outright lies that Sargon, Sargon, Vee, Academic Academic Agent, and others have stated as absolute fact. 2. There has has only ever ever been one profess professional ional accusati accusation on of CPR being being a con, a former former business partner who himself displayed questionable behavior during their partnership and in the past. 3. The actual actual “con” “con” on closer examin examination ation is a matter matter of a failed failed business business venture venture,, with the the partners turning on each other, using whatever methods they had to leverage control over one another. 4. The posters posters in the thread thread are misrepr misrepresent esenting ing the findings findings of of a college kangaro kangaroo o court to brand him a rapist, who’s verdict is dubious in and of itself. 5. When confront confronted ed with the the incorrect incorrect informat information, ion, The Guardia Guardian n will double double down, and and reframe the information to be something it was clearly not meant to mean, so he never has to admit to being wrong. You don’t have to love CRP after reading this. There are many reasons to not be a fan (boomer buffoonery, pretentious camera angles, inserting himself into drama, ect). But he is not a conartist taking his next scam to Youtube. Even if further evidence comes out against CRP, there is no doubt that the Kiwifarms thread, and the statements from King of /pol/ and The Guardian on the matter had nothing to do with public awareness, or whatever good-doer bullshit The Guardian is trying to feed you. Why lie (excuse me “joke”) about CRP being a male feminist, impute impropriety to his writing and consulting career, and distort his college sexual assault hearing at Dartmouth, if their main goal was to raise a red flag about his business dealings? Because the sole intent of that thread was to spread rumors and smears to destroy CRP’s reputation .
This actually parallels the recent smear against JF from Destiny quite well. Both Destiny, The Guardian, and King of /pol/ rely on taking some truth from a contentious incident from their target’s lives, and stretching it to fit a narrative. n arrative. They make sure it’s neatly framed in a moral veneer that would make Church ladies and Feminist professors proud. The question is are you just going to accept the first narrative you hear, like from Destiny or a Kiwifarms Kiwifarms thread, or are you going to consider the other side the broader context?
