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BILL: A hot new autobiography by Jerry Hall, ex-wife of Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger, says the rock star’s first addiction was to gambling. His love of poker was so intense that he lost the family home. DR. DAVE: Bill, that’s news to me. Mostly what I ever heard about him was his relentless pursuit of women. BILL: According to Hall's book,"My Life In Pictures", Jagger’s gambling led to a suicide attempt, but he "succeeded only in breaking almost every bone in his body and losing a kidney. That left Mama with five children to raise, no home and a husband destined to spend a long time in hospital." DR. DAVE: That's when she says he tried to substitute an addiction to sex for drugs and the card table? BILL: The Jaggers split in 1990 after model Luciana Giminez announced that she was pregnant with Mick's baby. You know, Dave, something in me understands what Jagger was trying to do. When I got out of rehab, I substituted chocolate for gin, gaining 50 pounds before I let myself realize what was happening. DR. DAVE: But when you did, you cut out the chocolate and lost the 50 pounds right back. You may've been self-indulgent. You were not addicted. BILL: Can you become addicted to something positive, like playing chess, maybe volunteering for the Red Cross or even going to the gym? DR. DAVE: An eminent psychologist, William Glasser, did some very good research on exactly that – on what addict's seek in their drug of choice. BILL: And found ways of getting there that were "positive" and not self-destructive? DR. DAVE: That’s the name of Glasser’s 1976 book—Positive Addiction. One blogger captured Glasser's theme very well: when you reach the PA state, your mind drifts, wandering effortlessly from random thought to observation to idea. This "free spinning" state is creative and relaxed, unforced, and difficult to intentionally maintain. BILL: In my day, I did a lot of "free spinning" in the White Horse bar and the San Remo too. I ended up drinking my way into two hospitals in ten days. Hard for me to see any of that as a Positive Addiction. DR. DAVE: The two PA processes that Glasser found are now embedded in popular health culture. The first is running, and surely everyone knows by now that a runner’s high is caused by the flood of endorphins into the brain.

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BILL: You’re speaking of the art of Meditation found in Yoga, Tai Chi and Transcendental Meditation, right? I seem to remember that the Scripps cardiac, cancer and pulmonary physicians were starting to use those ideas as part of their post-operative recovery programs. DR. DAVE: Meditation (more commonly called "Mindfulness" in the medical world), is indeed a Positive Addiction. BILL: A proven medical practice, and actually prescribed by doctors and surgeons who probably never sat in a Lotus position chanting “Ommmm” in their life?

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DR. DAVE: In La Jolla, Ca., right down the street from the Scripps, is what is often seen as the national center for Mindfulness. BILL: The one led by Depak Chopra? DR.DAVE: Exactly right, Bill. In fact, anyone reading us right now can click [here ] for Depak's four-minute introduction to Mindfulness. BILL: Which leads back to Mick Jagger and his many addictions, as chronicled by Jerry Hall. Certainly our readers must wonder, as they see 67 year-old Mick prancing across the stage on his world tour, how he ever got through the gambling, women, and sexual addiction that Hall's picture of his life conjures up. DR. DAVE: Not when you learn that his search for personal recovery led him to be one of the most ardent practitioners of Transcendental Meditation. Someone Depak, the Maharishi and others point to as leading a Mindfulness life. BILL: So it is medically true-- addiction can be positive? DR. DAVE: Proving Shakespeare right once again. There are more things in heaven and earth, Bill, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Dr. David Moore is a licensed psychologist and chemical dependency professional who is a graduate school faculty memb er at Argosy University’s Seattle Campus. Bill Manville is a Book of the Month novelist; his most recent non-fiction work, "Cool, Hip & Sob er", is availab le at online b ookstores. He teaches "Writing To Get Pub lished" for Temple University. Share

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8:35:30 AM So then I guess AA is just a switched addication then? Sure seems Sep 22, 2010 that way, the AA junkie gets all twitchy if they miss a meeting. Some have to start the day with a meeting, just to function.

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11:31:20 PM AA is not an addiction. It's a journey towards a better life. Some Sep 22, 2010 people start their days with a meeting because it helps with Serenity and restraint of pen and tongue. The meeting can make the day's work stressors- less. If, the day gets too stressed, how many know they can start their day over at any time? AA is not an addiction. Yes, people can get "squirrely" without a meeting. They can get squirrely in a meeting. Not all meetings are hot-beds of sanity. Going to a meeting helps keep the "not feeling right" emotions in check. The meetings helps the alcoholic to remember that they must keep sobriety number one in their lives. There are healthy "addictions"-if that is truly the correct word-but anything that becomes obsessive is not healthy.

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khovalyg 1:46:10 AM Sure you can trade one addiction for another. For exanple, you can Sep 23, 2010 trade your addiction to gambling on cards or horses for the addiction of gambling on the stock market. Chuckle.

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Mona Lisa 11:33:12 AM Oh sure, AA can be an addiction. I recall going to an AA meeting early Sep 24, 2010 on in my sobriety where a woman with 17 years or so shared about how she had gone to a meeting a few days earlier during a terrible snowstorm. She was actually proud to describe how she had dug her car out of several feet of snow because she HAD to make the meeting: even after all those years of abstinence, she NEEDED a daily meeting. She couldn't go one night without an AA meeting, even if it meant risking her safety to get there. She held herself up as an example--as did other longtimers at the meeting--of a truly dedicated AA member, but it was obvious to me that she was addicted to AA, jonesing for a meeting the same way she'd once craved alcohol. It was a pitiful sight, and over the many years I went to AA I saw many examples of this sick behavior, of people who had literally substituted AA for alcohol, who put AA ahead of everything else in life or who had no lives at all outside AA. Is this behavior he Report Offensive Post Click Here t o see all comments or to Report Abuse

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