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ea t hp en al t y t hi shousebel i evest hatgover nmentshoul dgi ved f orc or r upt or s I ’ m…… a sfi r s ts pe ak e rd el i v e r i n ga r g u me me ntf r o mp ol i t i c al poi ntofv i ew.Th es e c on ds p ea k eri s…… …….d el i v e r i n g a r g ume ntf r o ms oc i a lp oi n to fv i e w.Th et h i r ds pe ak e ri s…. …. .Co l l a bo r a t i n gt h ea r g u me me nto ffi r s ta nds ec on ds pe ak e r a ndr e bu t t i n gt h en eg at i v et e am.An dt h er e pl i e ro fmyt e am i s…… ………… L a di e sa ndge nt l e me me n, I ’ dl i k et odefi neandl i mi tt hemo mo t i on.Go v er nmentmea nst hepr es i den tandhi sc abi ne ti nI ndones i a ber s at uj i l i d2 i n cl u de st h ep ol i c e,p r o se cu t o ra ndj u dg ewh oh av epo we rt om ma a na gean dr o l et h i sc ou nt r yt o da y .Co r r u pt o r sme an s e v e r yp e r s o nwh owo r k sa st h es t a t eoffic e r , h ous eofr epr es ent at i v e,b us i n es s ma ma n,a nda l l p eo pl eh asdo nea ct i v i t y t och ea t ,t a k e,g i v ean dl o sst h efi na nc i a lo ft h ec ou nt r yan du set h emo ne yf o rh i m.De at hpe na l t yme me an st h e p un i s hme ntg i v e nt ot h ec or r u pt or sbyl o si n gh i sl i f e .So ,t h eg ov e r n me me ntr e co mm mme nd st h ec ou r t t op un i s ht h e c or r upt or swi t ht hedeat hpenal t yf orhi sac t i v i t ywhi c hl os st hec ount r yandI ndones i anpeopl e.Thel i mi t at i oni st he s t a t eo ffic ffic era ndt h eh ou seo fr e pr e se nt a t i v e . L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me me n , Th es t at eoffic era ndh ou seo fr e pr e se nt a t i v eha v ed ut yt oser v et h ep eo pl ea ndt h i sc ou nt r y . An dt h eyk no w we l l t h at t h ei rj o bi st oma k et h ep eo pl eb ec o me mep r o s pe r o us .Th en ,wh ent h eyc he at ,t a k ep r o fi tf o rt h ems e l v e sa ndma k et h e c ount r yl os sorc or r upt i on,i tmeanst hatt heybr eakt hei rdut yt ogi v egoodser v ef orpeopl e.Deat hpenal t yf or c or r upt orgi v esgoodeffec t sf ort hepol i t i c al andsoc i al i nt hi sc ount r y .I tmak est hes t at eoffic ert ost a yawa yf r om c or r upt i on,t hen,s oc i et ywi l l bemor ebel i e vabl et ot hem No w,t hi st i mef ormet od el i v erourar gumentf r om pol i t i cpoi ntofv i e w andast hefi r s ts peak eraffir mat i v eIwoul dl i k e t hi shousebel i evet hatgover nme mentshoul dgi vedeat h t ofi xmy mypo si t i o nt h atwea gr e ewi t ht h emo t i o nt od ay
Th er ear es omer e as o n st os up po r to ura r g ume nt s . pe na l t yf orc or r upt or . Fi r s t ,t hepol i c ywi l l mak et hegov er nment ’ scr edi bi l i t ybet t erandt hee xi s t enc eoft hego ver nmentt ofi ghtt he c o r r u pt i o nwi l l b en oq ue s t i o na ga i n .Asf a ra swek no wt h atma nype r s o nswh owo r ki nt h eg ov e r n me me nts u c ha si n pr os ec ut or , p ol i c ed ep ar t me nt ,c our t ,t axdepa r t men t ,e t c .c or r up ts oi tmak est hegr adeofbel i e vabl et owar d g ov e r n me me nt ,e sp ec i a l l ypr e si d en t ,d ec r e as es .Th es i g na ls ho wst h eb adwo r ko fg ov e r n me me nt .An di twi l l i n flu en cei n c onduc i v es i t uat i onoft hepol i t i ci nt hi sc ount r y .Thema mai ndut yofgo ver nmentt oser v et hepeopl ewi l l bedi s t ur bed b ec au seo ft h ec or r u pt o r si ne v er yde pa r t me ntwh oma k ed i ffic ul t i e st ot h ep eo pl ea ct i v i t yf o re x amp l eb us i n es s . Mo r e ov e r ,t h er ewi l l b eu nf a i ra ct i v i t yan dg apb et we ent h eg ov e r n me me nta ndp eo pl e .L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me me n,g i v i n g dea t hpenal t yf orc or r up t orwi l l dec r e as et heamountofoffic er si nal l depa r t men t st ocor r up tandma mak edi ffic ul t i est o p eo pl e .Fo re x amp l e ;Ga y usT a mb mb un an ,as t a ffo ft a xde pa r t me nt .Hegi v e ss o m me ehe l pt ob i gc o mp mp an i e st st o ma ni p ul a t et h ea mo mo un to ft a xwh i c hi sp ai dt obel e s st h ani ts h ou l db e.Th enh eg et smu mu c hmo ne yf r o mt h os e
c o mp an i e s .Hema k est h ei n c omeoft h ec o un t r yd ec r e as e .Hean dt h eb i gc omp an i e sma k et h ec o un t r yl o s sf o r muchmoney.Whi l et hes ma l l c o mp an i e s mu s tp ays ui t a bl et h et a xwh i c hs ho ul dbepa i dbe ca us eo fn oh el p i n gf r o m t h es t a ffl i k eg a y ust a mb un an . L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Sec ondr e as on;t hatpol i c yt ogi v edeat hpenal t yf orc or r upt ori sgoodst ept opr ot ec tt hene xtc or r upt or sappear ,i n o t h erwor dt hec or r upt o r sb ec omec ha r yord et e r r entorno tc or r up tag ai nandt heo t he r swi l l beaf r ai dt oc or r up t . Deat hpenal t yi sasdet er r enteff ec t .Iwantt ounder l i neher et hate ver y4y ear soraf t erfi ni s hi ngt heper i odoft he me mb er sofh ou ser e pr e se nt a t i v e ’ sj o bma nyoft h os eme mb er soft h eh ou segot ot h ej a i l b ec au seofc or r u pt i o n.Fo r e x a mp l et h ec h i e fo ft h eh ou s eo fma di u nr e ge nc ya nds omeme mb er sp er i o d2 00 0t o20 04got ot h ej a i l i n20 04 , t h ens o meme mb er soft h eh ou s ep er i o d2 00 4t o2 00 8a l s og ot h ej a i l i n20 08 .Mo r e ov e r ,wes t i l l r e me mb ero ure x c hi e fofmadi unc i t ymus ts t a yi nt h ej ai l bec aus eofc or r up t i oni n2009.Wh yt hatc ondi t i onhappen ,l adi e sand g en t l e me n?Be c au s et h ep un i s h me ntt h ec o r r u pt o r sg e ti sv e r yl o w,s oma nys t a t eoffic e ra ndme mb er so f r epr es ent at i v edonotf el l af r ai d,t heyj us ts t a yi nt hej ai l under5y ear sorj us tpa ys omebi l l i on.Fr om t hatc ondi t i onwe ar er e al l ys ur et hatdeat hpen al t ywi l l p r o t ec tt hes t at eoffic erandmember soft heh ous et oc or r up t .Doyout hi nkt he y wi l l bepl eas ur et or el eas et hei rl i f ef or s ent en cet ode at hb yfi r i ngs quad?No,no bodywant st odi el i k et hat .So,t heper s onwi l l t hi nkt wi c eormor ei ft h ey i nt endt ocor r upt . L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n,b adh ab i ts uc ha sc or r u pt i o nwh i c ho cc ur sf o ry e ar sc ann ots t o pwi t h ou tar e so l u t es t e po r d ea t hp en al t y . Wec ans a yc or r u pt i o ni st h eb ado l dh ab i twh i c hh asex i s t e ds i n ceMa j a pa hi te r aormo r e .Sot h eb es t s ol u t i ont os t opc or r up t i oni sbygi v i ngs hoc kt her ap y ,t heh ea vi e stpuni s hments uc hasde at hpenal t y . Thatpo l i c ya l s o r e ma i n st h eg ov e r n me ntt os e r v ep eo pl ec o r r e c t l y . Be c au s eo fma nygo ode ffe c t sf o ro u rc o u nt r ys oo urt e am t hi shous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r nme nts houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc or r upt or s . abs ol ut el ya gr eest hat Thank
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2nd s p ea k e ra ffir ma t i v e t hi shous ebe l i e v et ha tgov e r n me nts houl dgi v ede a t hpe na l t yf orc or r upt or
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , s t Fi r s tofal l ,I ’ dl i k er ebutt hear gumentof1 sp ea k erne ga t i v et ea m.She/ hes ai d………………………
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Th i si smyt u r nt od el i v e rmyar g ume ntf r o ms oc i a lp oi n to fv i e w.Ast h es ec on ds pe ak e ra ffir ma t i v et e am Ia gr e ewi t h t hi shous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r nme nts houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc or r upt or t h emo t i ont oda yt hat .
Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,c or r up t i o nwi l l mak ebi gdes t r o yi ngandl os st hec ount r y . Mos toft hec or r up t or sar es t at e o ffic e r swh owo r ki ngo v e r n me nta ndme mb er so ft h eh ou s e.Th eye nr i c ht h ems e l v e sb yma k i n gl o s sf o rt h ec o un t r y ’ s i n co me .Wh i l et h ep eo pl e ,c ommo np eo pl eo rb us i n es s me n,f o l l o ws i t u at i o nc r e at e db yt h ec or r u pt o r si nt h e g ov e r n me ntt ogi v et h em s o memo ne yt oma k et h ei rc a s eo ra ffa i rt obeab l et owo r ks mo ot h l ya ndwe l l .Wec ans a y
t h att h er ewi l l benobr i b ef r om t heb us i nes s me ni ft hes t at eoffic er sdoal l aff ai r si ni t spl ac eands er v ep r o pe r l y .So t h er ei snoco r r u pt i o na ga i n .Ort h eme mb er soft h eh ou sej u s tr e ce i v esa l a r ya nddono tr e ce i v emo ne ybybr e ak i n g t h er ol ean dl aw. Wen ot es omea dv a nt a ge sf r o ms oc i a lp oi n to fv i e wb ya pp l y i n gd ea t hp en al t yf o rc o r r u pt o r . Fi r s t ,s oc i et ywi l l admi tt hee xi s t enc ean dc ommi t men to ft hego v er nmentt os er v et o t al l yt ot hep eopl et oc r ea t et he pr os per i t yf orpeopl e.Deat hpenal t yi sf r es hai rf orpe opl ewher et he yk no w wel l t hatc or r up t or sgetpuni s hment hea vi l y . Peopl ear esur et ha tac t i onca nde cr eas et heamountofc or r up t or st henbec omecl eanf r om c or r up t or s .I t s ho wst h atg ov e r n me ntc anwo r kwe l l .Mo r e ov e r ,t h ec l e ango v er n me ntc anc r e at et h es t a bl es oc i e t ywh er et h e peo pl ebel i e v et o war dt h ego v er n men t ,es pec i al l ypr e si dentwhoi sv ot eddi r ec t l ybyt hepeopl e.Atl as t ,t he e xpec t at i onoft hepeopl ewi l l c omet r uet og etpr op erandpr os per ousl i f ei nt hei rownc oun t r y . Deat hpenal t ymak es t h ei n co meo ft h ec ou nt r yi n cr e as eb ec au seo fn o t h i n gf o rc o r r u pt o r s . Th en ,t h emo ne yu se sf o rs e r v i n gp eo pl eb et t e r . Fo re x amp l et h ec or r u pt i o nb yse kme np or aors t a ffi nk emn ak e r t r a nswh i c ht a l k sab ou tmi l l i o nsofmo ne yhu r t t h e p eo pl e ’ she ar t .Pe op l ea r ed ou bt f u la bo utt h ewo r ko fg ov e r n me nt .Th eyt a k eal o to fmo ne yf o rt h ems el v e swh i l e man ypeop l el i v ei np ov er t yc ond i t i on.Thatc ondi t i ondec r eas est hea dmi t t i ngofpeo pl ebel i e ft o wa r dt hego v er nment . Thes i t uat i onal s of or c est hepr es i dentt or es hufflehi sc abi ne tbe ca us eofd ec r eas i ngo fpeopl e ’ sbel i eft owar dt he g ov e r n me ntwh i c hc o ns i s t sofma nyc or r u pt e do ffic i a l . Sec ond,appl y i ngdeat hpenal t yf orc o r r upt orwi l l l os et hec or r upt i onac t i v i t i essot hes oc i et ywi l l bepr oudt hat I ndones i abec omest hec l eancount r yornocor r up t i onac t i o nf r o mt hegr as sr o o tunt i l c hi efo ft hecount r y .Aswe k no wa cc or d i n gt oI n de pe nd en to r g a ni z at i o ni n2 01 0I n do ne si ag ots i x t hr a nkf r o m1 46c ou nt r i e si nt h ewo r l da st h e c ount r ywi t hcor r up t i onpr obl em andgo tfi r s tr anki nAs i apac i fi c .Ohmygod,t hat ’ sv er ywor s tac hi e v eme ntf ort he c ount r ywhi c hbegi n sne wf ut ur ei nr e f or mat i oner a.I ti sv er yas ha medf o ra l l pe opl et hatwear er i c hc ount r ybutwe h av emo s to fp oo rp eo pl e .I th ap pe nsbe ca us eo fc or r u pt i o nwh i c hg r o wsl i k efl owe ri nt h er a i n ys ea so n.Ge t t i n gfi r s t r ankf orc or r u pt i ngsho wsI ndo nes i anoffic i al sha v ebadchar a ct er .Deat hpenal t yes pe ci al l yf orc or r upt e doffic i a l mak est hec ount r yst ands t r ongl ybes i det hec ount r yal l t hewor l d..Ibel i ev et hat ,whent her ei snor eal l yst r i c t pun i s hmenti nI n dones i a,c or r up t i onwi l l defi ni t el yber a mp ant .Thedea t hp enal t yi st hean swer .Cor r up t or sdes er v e t h edeat hpenal t y . The ya r ee venmor edan ger o usandwor s et hanaki l l er .Ak i l l erk i l l soneort wopeo pl er i ghta wa y . Butac or r upt ork i l l sal otofpeopl egr adual l y ,s l owl ybuts ur el y . L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Pe op l ewa ntt ol i v ep r o pe r l yan dp r o sp er o us .Th ec or r u pt i o nma k est h ep eo pl ea ng r ya ndl o se st h ei rp r o udt ot h i s c ount r y . The n,t he ydon otbel i e v et o war dt hego v er n men tan ymor e.Thatc on di t i oni sv er ydanger ousf ors t abi l i z at i on o fs oc i e t y . Wh enpe op l el o set h ei rb el i e ft ogo v er n me nt ,i tme an st h eg ov e r n me nts ho ul dber e sh uffle do rc ha ng ed . t hi s Th ent oa v oi db adi mp ac tf r o md ec r e as i n gp eo pl e ’ sbe l i e ft og ov e r n me nts owen ee dt os a yon c ea ga i nt h at hous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r n me nts houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc or r upt or .Th a nky o u .
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I ’ mt h i r dsp ea k era ffir ma t i v e .Al l o w met or e sp on dt h en eg at i v et e am a r g u me nt ,c ol l a bo r a t efir s ta nds ec on ds pe ak e r andconcl udemyt eam ar gument . Asmyt e am r e bu t t a l ,t h atfi r s ts p ea k ern eg at i v es ai d ……. Th ent h es ec o n ds p e ak e rn eg a t i v ea l s oa r g ue st h at ……. Her e,we ’ dl i k et ogi v esomesol ut i onandsugges t i ont osol v et hepr obl em,s oourc ount r ywi l l becl eanf r om c or r upt i onac t i v i t i es .…… t hi shous ebe l i e v es L ad i e san dg en t l e me n,a st h ea ffir ma t i v et e am o fc o ur s ewes up po r t a ndag r e et h ats t u de nt s t ha tgo ve r nme nts houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc or r up t or .Fr om pol i t i c al poi ntofv i ew,myfir s ts peak ers ai dt hat
t hepol i c y ,appl y i ngdeat hpenal t yf orc or r upt or ,wi l l mak et hegov er nment ’ sc r e di bi l i t ybet t era ndt hee xi s t enc eoft he go v er nmentt ofi ghtt hec or r up t i onwi l l b enoques t i onag ai n .I no t herhan dpo l i t i c al s i t u at i onbe co messt abl e .Sh eal s o s ai dt hatpol i c yt ogi v edeat hpenal t yf orc or r upt ori sgoods t ept opr ot ec tt hene xtc or r upt or sappear ,i not herwor dt he c or r up t or sbec omec har yorno tc or r up tag ai nandt h eo t h er swi l l beaf r ai dt oc or r up t .Deat hpenal t yi sasde t er r en t e ffe ct .Th ey o un gg en er a t i o na l s os t a y sa wa yf r o mc or r u pt i o na ct i v i t i e s.Th eb adh ab i ts uc ha sc or r u pt i o nmu stb e s t ops oi tdoesno tbec omeourc ul t ur e,no tn oworno ti nt hef ut ur e. Bes i det ho ser eas ons ,ap pl y i ngdeat hpe nal t yf orc or r up t or si sal s os up por t edb yt hepos i t i v el a wi nI n dones i aunt i l n o wa da y s .I tb e gi n sUUn o .519 6 9a n di s s u e st h en e x tUUn o.2 6/2 00 0a bo uth uma nr i g hta ndUUn o.1 5/2 00 5 a bo utt e r r o r i s m.Al l o fUUa r er e l e as edbyt h eg ov e r n me nta ndt h eh ou seha sag r e edt h em.Mo r e ov e r ,Mi n i s t e ro f J us t i c ea ndHu manRi ght sPat r i al i sAk ba ra s s er t edt hatt heI ndo nes i anCons t i t ut i onof1 945doesno tp r o hi bi tt he appl i c at i onoft hedeat hpenal t yf orpeopl econv i c t edofc or r upt i on.Soi ti sc l eart hatbas esont hel a wt hedead pen al t yf orc or r up t orhass t r on gpo we rt odo. Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,i nt hebeg i nni ngoft hi sdebat emyfi r s ts pea kerhass ai dt ha tt hemai ndut yofo ffic i al i st o s er v ep eo pl ewe l l a ndma k et h em p r o sp er o us .Co r r u pt i o na ct i o nd oe sn ots up po r t t or e al i z et h ed ut ybu tc or r u pt i o n c uto fft ob et h ec l e ana ndg oo do ffic i a l .Co r r u pt i o ns uff er st h ep eo pl es ot h ed ea t hp en al t yi sgo odp ol i c yt op un i s h t hec or r upt or s . Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,f r om s oc i al poi ntofv i e w,mys ec ondspea kers ai dt hats oc i e t ywi l l admi tt heex i s t enc eand c ommi t mentoft hego v er n men tt os er v et o t al l yt ot h epe opl et oc r eat et hepr os per i t yf orpeopl e.Deat hpenal t yi sf r es h ai rf orpeopl ewher et he yk no w wel l t hatc or r up t or sgetpuni s hmenthe av i l y . Sot hes oc i al s i t ua t i o nbe comess t abl e bec au set hep eopl es uppor tt hepo l i c yoft hego v er nment .Sheal s os ai dt hatappl y i ngdeat hpena l t yf orc or r u pt orwi l l l o set h ec or r up t i onac t i v i t i essot hes oc i e t ywi l l bepr ou dt hatI ndones i abec omest hec l eanc ount r yorn oc or r up t i on ac t i onf r om t hegr as sr ootunt i l c hi efoft hec ount r y .SoI ndones i awi l l notbet hes i x t hr anki nt hewor l dast he c or r up t i ngpr obl em andfir s tr anki nAs i apac i fi c .Thatt hewor s tac hi e v ementf oro urc ount r y . Be si d et h os er e as on s,a pp l y i n gd ea t hp en al t yf o rc o r r u pt o ra pp ea r sg oo dc on di t i o ni nt h es oc i e t y . Aswekn owma ny c or r u pt i o nsma k ep eo pl esu sp i c i o usea chot h era ndt h i n kn eg at i v et o wa r dt h eo t h er s .Mo r e ov e r ,p eo pl ear ee as yt obe pr o vok edandus edb yc er t a i nper s onorgr oup.Th er ear eman yba dha bi t sl i k el az y ,i n di s c i pl i ne,l ea v et hewor k ,l at e, e t c .wh i c ha pp ea rb e c au s eo ft h ec o r r u pt e de nv i r o nme nt .Fo re x a mp l es o me on emu s tp aybi l l i o nsofmo ne yf o r c er t a i no ffic i a lt og etj o ba st h es t a t eo ffic i a ls uc ha sPNSi nl o ca la ndc en t r a lg ov e r n me nts ot h eyha v el e ss c ommi t me ntt os er v ep eo pl ewe l l .Th eyge tt h ej o bb ec au seo fmo ne y ,n ota sp r o f e ss i o na l .Th atc on di t i o na l s oc r e at e s u nf a i rc h an c ef o rs o mepe op l ewh od on oth av emu c hmo ne yf o rt h ec e r t a i noffic i a lt oge tj o ba sPNS.
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Co r r u pt i o ni nI n do ne si ai sv er yba d.Weca nfi ndt h ec or r u pt i o ne v er ywh er esu chasi ned uc at i o nd ep ar t me nt ,i nt h e c our t ,i nt heoffic eofdi s t r i c t ,i nt hepol i c edepar t mentet c .Andi ti sdonedi r ec t l yandi ndi r ec t l y ,f or mal andi nf or mal s i t uat i on.Thec or r u pt i onr eal l ymak est hepeo pl es uff er .The ya l s ot hi nkgo v er nmentha sr es pons i bi l i t yt o war dt he wor s tc ondi t i onwher ec or r upt i onhasbeenl i k ec ul t ur et odoi nourc ount r y .Sot os t abl epol i t i c al ands oc i al c ondi t i on, g ov e r n me ntmu std ec i d eo nes er i o usde ci s i o nt os t o pc or r u pt i o nt og r o wl a r g er .An dt h ea ns we ri sbyap pl y i n gt h e s t r i c tpuni s hmentf ora l l c or r u pt ort hati sdeat hp enal t y . Onc eag ai nl adi esandgent l emen,o urt eam v er yagr ee st hi s h ou seb el i e v et h atg ov e r n me nts ho ul dg i v ed ea t hp en al t yf o rc o r r u pt o r .Th an ky o u.
1st s pe ak e rn e ga t i v e t hi shous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r nme nts houl dgi v ede a t hpe na l t yf orc or r up t or
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Wear enegat i v et eam.Ast hefi r s ts peak er ,I ’ dl i k et os t at eourt eam s pl i t .I ’ mt hefi r s ts peak erandIwi l l r ebutand d el i v e ro ura r g u me ntf r o mh uma nr i g htp oi n to fv i e w.Th es ec on ds pe ak e ri s…. .s hewi l l r e bu ta ndd el i v e rt h e a r g ume ntf r o ml a wp oi n to fv i e w.Th et h i r ds pe ak e ri s…. .Sh ewi l l c ol l a bo r a t ean ds umma r i z et h ea r g ume nto ffi r s t t hi shousebel i evest hatgovernment a nds ec on ds pe ak e r .An dr e pl i e ro fo urt e am i s …. .Th emo t i o nt o da yi s s houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc o r r up t or .
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , Fi r s twecanac c ep tt hedefi ni t i onandl i mi t at i onwhi c ha r egi v enbyaffir ma t i v et eam Nowal l owmet or ebut t hefi r s tsp eak eraffir mat i v ear gument .Shes ai dt hat ……………………………. L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n,n ob od yp er f e ct ,t h i si st h ewo r dIwa ntt or e ma i ny oua ga i n .I tme an sh er et h ate v er y o neca n d owr o ngac t i o na ndi ti sc ommo nt oge tp un i s hme ntb ec au seoft h atmi s t ak e .Wesa yt h atc or r u pt i o ni sba da ct i o n a ndne edt obepu ni s h ed ,b utwh ata pp r o pr i a t ep un i s h me nth es h ou l dge ts u i t a bl ehi smi s t a k e.An db ec a us ewea r e e du c at e dp er s o n,t h ep un i s h me nth adbe t t e rt oc o nt a i ne du c at i o na ndc h an ges o me on et obebe t t e r .Pu ni s h me nt s houl dha vegoodv al uef orhi ms el f ,t hes oc i et yandt hec ount r ysoi ti seffec t i v et or epai rt hec ondi t i onf oral l el eme nt s .Dea t hpenal t yi sno tg oodpuni s hmentt ogi v egoodeff ec tf ora l l el ement s ;i ti ss omet hi ngl i k et heo t h erf a ce ofk i l l i ngl egal l y .I tt eac hesnot hi ngf orc or r upt or .
Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,asfi r s t s peak erneg at i v et eam we ’ dl i k et ofix edourpos i t i ont hatweabs ol u t el ydi s agr eewi t h t h emo t i ont hatt hi shous ebel i e v et hatgo v er n men ts houl dgi v edeat hpenal t yf orc or r u pt or . F r o mh uma nr i g htp oi n to f v i e w weha v eso mer e as o nst os up po r ti t . Fi r s t ,deat hpenal t yi si nhumanpuni s hmental t houghi ti sus edt opuni s hev encor r upt or .I nf ac t ,t hepol i c ybr eak st he h uma nr i g htwh i c ha l wa y sa pp r e ci a t e ss ome on e’ sl i f ewh oe v erh ei s ,wi t h ou ts omed i s c r i mi n at i o n.Mo r e o v er ,d ea t h p en al t yasad et e r r e nte ffe cti sc on ce pt u al l ywr o ng .Th ep ur p os eo fp un i s hme nti sr e ha bi l i t a t i o nt oma k es ome on e bet t er ,notf orr e venge.Deat hpenal t ydoesnotf ul l fi l l t her equi r ement sast hegoodpuni s hment .I tj us tc ut s s omeone ’ sl i f e.I tdoesno tt r yt oc hanges omeo ne ’ sc ha r a c t ert obebe t t er ,r eal i z ehi swr onganddoesno tc or r up t ag ai n.Themos ti mpor t antt hi ngofpun i s hmenti st omak es omeonet oabl et owal khi sne xtl i f ei nr i ghtl i ne.Ko nt r as s ai dt hedeat hpenal t ydi dnotr es pec tt her i ghtt ol i f eandwoul dbei neffec t i v easac or r upt i ondet er r ent .I ts ai dt he c l aus ewoul dal s ohi ndereff or t st or epat r i at ec or r upt i onf ugi t i v eshi di ngabr oad,aswel l ast hei ras set s .Mor eo ver , YL BHIs t r o ng l yop po se sd ea t hs en t e nc ef o rc o nv i c t e do fc or r u pt i o n.YL BHIi sofa no pi n i o nt h atad ea t hs en t e nc ei s ag ai ns tuni v er s al humanr i ght s .I naddi t i on ,t hedeat hs en t enc ei sapuni s hmentt hatc anno tbecor r ec t edor o v er t u r n e d. Sec ond,d eat hpena l t ys ho wst hatt hecount r yhasbec omet heo wn eroft her i ght sofl i f eand,ofc ou r s e ,i ti sno t c or r e ct .Wemu stc omeb ac kt ot h eb as i cofl i f et h atJ us tGo dc ant a k es ome on el i f e ,n ott h ec ou nt r yort h e go v er nment .I st her ean yguar a nt eet hatt hepuni s hmen tdec i dedbyc our ti sr eal l yr i ghtwi t houtan ypr es s ur ef r om p owe rp er s o n?Nogu ar a nt e e,s oho wc a nwepu ni s hde at hpe na l t yi ft h ec o ur tc a nn otr u nwe l l ?Fo re x a mp l et h e c o ur ti nPa s ur u anpu ni s h esgu i l t yast h emu r d erf o rs o me on ea nds omey e a r sl a t e rt h er e al mu r d erh asb ee nc a ug ht andi tal s oh appensf ort heper s onwhopuni s hesgui l t yast hec or r up t i on.Fi ni s hi ngs ome one ’ sl i f ei sno tt her i ghtof g ov e r n me ntb ec au sewedo n’ th av et h eb es tj u dg e,p r o s e cu t or sa ndl a w wh i c hi sc l e anf r o mi n t e r v e nt i o no rs ome i mp or t a nc eo fc e r t a i ng r o up . Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,Some one ’ sl i f ei sno tt o yt ot r youta boutappl y i ngf at al pu ni s hments uc hasdeat hpenal t y , or j us tgov er nmentt r i est ot ak et hes y mpat hyofpeopl e.Wet al kaboutl i f eanddeat hofpeopl e,s opl eas et hi nkc ar ef ul l y . Ev e r ywr o ngpe r s o nev e nc or r u pt o rh asr i g htt oge ts omec ha nc et or e pa i rh i smi s t a k es .An dt h ep un i s hme nts ho ul d b ec omeap l a cet or e p ai rh i ms el f .He r eweco nc l u det h atwev er ydi s ag r e et h att h i sho us eb el i e v est h atg ov e r n me nt s houl dgi v edeat hp enal t yf o rc o r r up t or .Tha nky ou .
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Mynamei s……. .f r om smkpgr i 3madi unast hesecondspeakernegat i vet eam. L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , nd Fi r s t ,I ’ dl i k er ebutt hear gumentof2 spe ak eraffir mat i v et eam.She/ hesa i d……………… wet hi nk…. .
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a r g ume ntf r o ml a wp oi n to fv i e w. Fi r s t ,deat hpenal t yi snots t r ongs uppor t i ngofl a wi nt hi sc ount r y .I tunder mi nedhumandi gni t y ,wasi nc ompat i bl ewi t h Ar t i c l e28of1945Cons t i t ut i ont hatguar ant eedt her i ghtt ol i f eofev er yi ndi v i dual andt hati tf ai l edt oc ur bs i mi l ar c r i mes .Al l peopl e,i nc l udi ngt hec or r upt or ,hav er i ght st odef endt hei rl i f eandt hec ons t i t ut i onguar ant eei tc l ear l y .I n ourc ons t i t ut i on,c api t al puni s hmenti sment i onedaspa r tofh uma nr i g ht st hats houl dno tber e v ok edunderan y c i r c ums t anc es ,t oo.But ,Ar t i c l e28( i )ment i onedt hatt hei mpl ement at i onofhumanr i ght si sl i mi t edbyt wot hi ngs . Fi r s t ,i tmus tn otv i ol at et her i ght sofot her s .Sec ond,i ti sr es t r i c t edbyl aw.So,i ti spos si bl ef ort hes t at esi s sueal aw t h atwoul di mpo sedeat hpenal t yt oc on vi c t edcor r up t or .Soi ti sv er yf unn yt hatt hego v er nmenti s s uest hede at h penal t yi nl a w whi l ei nf ac ti tbr eak st hef oundat i onofourc o unt r y ,t heCons t i t ut i onof1945.I t ’ sc l eare nought hat d ea t hp en al t ydo es n ’ th av es t r o ngp owe rt od oi nl a w. Sec ond,d eat hpena l t yi sno ts ui t a bl ewi t hI CCPR( I nt er nat i onal Co v enantonCi v i l a ndPol i t i c al Ri gh t s ) .Aswekno w t h att h eI ndones i ang ov er n men td ec i d est or at i f yt heI CCPR( I nt er nat i onal Co v en antonCi v i l a ndPo l i t i c al Ri ght s )i n t o l a w No .1 2/ 2 00 5.Ac t u al l y , mo r et h an10 0c ou nt r i e si nt h ewo r l dha v ee r a se dt h ed ea t hp en al t yast h ep un i s hme nt .As t heoneoft hec ount r i esi nt hewor l dI ndones i as houl dc r i t i c i z eaboutt hi scondi t i on.I ngl obal i z edwor l ddeat hpenal t y h asn otb ec omet h ep r i o r i t yo ft h ep un i s hme nta ga i n .Ast h emo de r nc o un t r yweal s ol i v emo r ehu ma ni t ya ndt h i n k f o r wa r d .Th er ear ema nywa y st os ol v et h ep r o bl e m wi t h ou tv i o l e nc es uc hasd ea t hpe na l t y . Is a yvi o l e nc ebe ca us e dea t hpenal t yi st ot ak esomeone ’ sl i f ewi t hpr es s ur e.Mo stoft hecount r i esi nt hewor l dha v emo v edf or war dby e r a si n gd ea t hpe na l t ya st h ep un i s hme ntb ec au seofi n hu ma na ct i o n,t h enwh enwear ebr a v et os t e ps uc hl i k et h at ? No w,t h at ’ st h ea ns we r .Wemu s tc h a ng e. And,l adi esandgent l emen,f r om t hel a w poi ntofv i ew,i ti snoti deal agai nes pec i al l yi ngl obal i z at i oner at oappl y d ea t hp en al t yast h ep un i s hme nte v enf o rc o r r u pt or .Ac c or d i n gt h el a w,e v er ype r s o nh ast h es amer i g htt ol i v ea nd d ef e ndf r o mv i o l e nc eo rp r e ss ur e .Mo r e ov e r ,a cc or d i n gt h el a w,p un i s hme nti spr o ce sst or e al i z es ome on ea bo uta l l mi s t a k esan dl e ar n smo r et ob et t e rp er s ona ndh asbe t t e rl i f e .An dt h emo sti mp or t a ntt h i n gi st h ep er s ond oe sn otd o t h emi s t a k ea ga i n . L ad i e san dg en t l e me n,e v er y o nec anma k emi s t a k esb uti td oe s n’ tme anhene v e rd o est h er i g htt h i n g.Heha sdo ne t h ev a l u ab l et h i n gsf o rh i ms el fa ndt h eo t h er s ,a ndn owh es l i p so fs t e ps ,t h enwh yd on ’ tweg i v et h em c ha nc et o r epai rt heent i r emi s t ak e?Hecangi v esome t hi ngus ef ul f o rt hi sc ou nt r yi nt hef ut ur e .Her eweemphas i z et hatwe t hi shous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r n me nts houl dgi v ede at hpe na l t yf orc or r upt or ,t ha nky ou. di s agr ee
3 r ds pe ak e rn eg at i v e t hi shous ebe l i e v est ha tgo ve r nme nts houl dgi v ede a t hpe na l t yf orc or r up t or
L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n , I ’ mt h i r dsp ea k ern eg at i v e .Al l o w met or e sp on dt h ea ffir ma t i v et e am a r g u me nt ,c ol l a bo r a t efir s ta nds ec on ds pe ak e r andconcl udemyt eam ar gument . Asmyt e am r e bu t t a l ,t h atfi r s ts p ea k ern eg at i v es ai d …….
Th ent h es ec o n ds p e ak e rn eg a t i v ea l s oa r g ue st h at ……. Her e,we ’ dl i k et ogi v es omes ol ut i onands ugges t i ont os ol v et hepr obl em,t hats endi ngt hec or r up t or st ot hej ai l or i mp r i s on me ntf o rmo r et h an2 5y e ar swi t h ou ts omed ec r e as i n go rl i f es en t e nc e,d ot h ep ub l i cs er v i c ef r e es uc ha s c l ea ni ngt her i v er ,t ak i nggar bage,e t can dr e t u r n i ngt hemone ywhi c hi sc or r upt edandgi v i ngfine. L ad i e san dg en t l e me n,a st h en eg at i v et e am o fc o ur s ewedono ts u pp or ta nddono ta gr e e t hi shous ebe l i e ve st ha t gover nmentshoul dgi vedeat hpenal t yf orcor r upt or .F r o mh uma nr i g htp oi n to fv i e w,myfi r s ts pe ak e rh a ss ai d
t h atdea t hpenal t yi si nhu manpun i s hmental t houghi ti sus edt opuni s he v enc or r up t or .I nf a ct ,t h epol i c ybr eak st he h uma nr i g htwh i c ha l wa y sa pp r e ci a t e ss ome on e’ sl i f ewh oe v erh ei s ,wi t h ou ts omed i s c r i mi n at i o n.Mo r e o v er ,d ea t h p en al t yasad et e r r e nte ffe cti sc on ce pt u al l ywr o ng .Th ep ur p os eo fp un i s hme nti sr e ha bi l i t a t i o nt oma k es ome on e be t t er ,no tf orr e v enge.De at hpenal t ydoesno tf ul l fi l l t h er equ i r e men t sast h egoodpuni s hment .Th en,s heal s o ar guest ha tdeat hp enal t ys ho wst hatt hec oun t r yha sbec omet heo wnero ft her i gh t sofl i f eand,ofc our s e,i ti sno t c or r ec t .Wemus tr e t ur nt ot hebas i cofl i f et ha tJ us tGodcant ak es omeo nel i f e,no tt hec ount r yort hego v er nment . Bes i det ho ser eas ons ,t heUni t edNat i onsst udyhassho wnt ha tt her ei snos t at i s t i c al l yval i ddat at ha ts u ppor tt he appl i c at i onoft hedeat hpenal t yt obedi r ec t l ypr opor t i onal t ot hedec r eas ei nc or r upt i onl ev el .Bot har enot pr opor t i onal l yr el a t ed.Fur t her mor e ,d eat hp enal t yi sno tg oods ol ut i ont ofi ghtc or r up t i on.Wemus tfi ndo utt her oo to f t h er ea sonwh ype opl ec or r up t .Mo r e ov er ,go v er nmenthasr e sp ons i bi l i t yt or e pai rt hebur eauc r ac yands er v i c et o p eo pl ebe ca us eg ov e r n me nth aspo we rt ocr e at et h ec ul t u r ewi t h ou tc or r u pt i o ni na l l a sp ec t si n cl u det h eg ov e r n me nt i t s el f .Thef ai l ur eoft hehandl i ngofc or r upt i onc as esi nI ndones i ai sbec aus eofpol i t i c saswel l ast hebads er v i c eand b ur e au cr a cyoft h eI n do ne si a nl e ga ls y s t e m. L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n,i nt h eb eg i n ni n go ft h i sde ba t emyfi r s ts pe ak e rh ass ai dn ob od yp er f e ct .I tme an sh er et h at e v e r y o n ec a nd owr o ngac t i o na ndi ti sc o mmo nt oge tp un i s h me ntb ec a us eoft h atmi s t a k e.Pu ni s h me nts h ou l dha v e goodv al uef orhi ms el f ,t hes oc i et yandt hec ount r ysoi ti seffec t i v et or epai rt hec ondi t i onf oral l el ement s .Anddeat h penal t yi snotgoodsol ut i on. L ad i e sa ndg en t l e me n,f r o ml a wp oi n to fv i e w,mys ec on ds pe ak e rs a i dt h atd ea t hp en al t yi sno ts t r o ngs up po r t i n go f l a wi nt hi sc ount r y . I tu nder mi nedhumandi gni t y , wasi nc ompat i bl ewi t hAr t i c l e28of1945Cons t i t ut i ont hat guar ant eedt her i ghtt ol i f eofev er yi ndi v i dual i nc l udi ngt hec or r upt or .Ands heal s oar guesdeat hpenal t yi snot s ui t abl ewi t hI CCPR( I nt er nat i onal Co v ena ntonCi v i l andPol i t i c al Ri ght s ) .Aswek no wt h att heI ndones i an go v er nmentdec i dest or at i f yt heI CCPR( I nt er nat i onal Co v enan to nCi v i l andPol i t i c al Ri ght s )i nt ol a w No .12/ 2 005. Fur t her mor e,Ar t i c l e28I( 1)oft he1945Cons t i t ut i onguar ant eest her i ghtt ol i f eofeac handev er yI ndones i anc i t i z en, i nl i n ewi t ht h eI CCPRa ndl a w No .1 2/ 2 00 5.Re t a i n i n gt h ed ea t hpe na l t yi nI n do ne si a ’ spe na lc od e( KUHP)i s t her ef or eac ont r adi c t i onandpr oofoft hei nc ons i s t enc yi nI ndones i a ’ ssy s t em ofc ons t i t ut i onal l aws . Be si d et h os er e as on s,a cc or d i n gt oPa nc as i l an umb er2s a y st h eh uma ni t ywi t hj u s t i c ea ndwi s do m.Soi t ’ sc l e art h at deat hpenal t yi snotf ul l fi l l t hej us t i c ees pec i al l yf orc o r r upt orandi tdoes n’ ts howt hewi s dom oft hi scount r y . Lad i esan dge nt l e men ,deat hp enal t yi sno tt hegoodans wert ofi ghtc or r up t i onbec aus et her ei snos t a t i s t i c al l yv al i d dat at hats uppor tt heappl i c at i onoft hedeat hpenal t yt obedi r ec t l ypr opor t i onal t ot hedec r e as ei nc or r upt i onl e vel .So wen ee dc l e are nf o r c eme ntl a w,i no t h erwo r d ,t h emo sti mp or t a ntt h i n gi sac t u al l yt h eh on es t yofl a we nf o r c e me nt offic er s .Theni tc anr e pai rt hebadser v i c eandbur eauc r ac yoft heI nd ones i anl eg al s y s t e m.Thel as twest i l l di s agr ee housebel i evest hatgovernmentshoul dgi vedeat hpenal t yf orcor r upt or t h i s .Th an ky o u .
