Tinder Guide/Analysis: Table of Contents 1. Introduction 2. Profile Pictures a. Main Picture b. Getting the Type of girl you want i. Pictures c. Getting all Types of girls i. Pictures 3. The Bio 4. Opener: The First Message a. Opener 1 b. Opener 2 5. Keeping the girl engaged and getting the number/date a. Engage b. Before number c. Number close/date 6. Reopening/ re-engaging dead conversations 7. Reducing Flakes 8. Adding value through the new picture feature (like snapchat) 9. Conclusion 10. Recommendation (a gem)
1. Introduction This guide will talk about setting up your profile pictures and bio. How to get the type of girl you want vs all types of girls. How to engage/hook and re-engage/re-hook girls to begin and sustain a conversation. How to get the number and set up the date and lastly how to drastically reduce flakes.(really good topic in my opinion if you get flaked on a lot. Whether it's a flake through having approached or online) DISCLAIMER: By no means am I saying I'm a Tinder GOD or saying you should follow this 100% to the letter and that it's the Tinder bible. Rather it should be looked at like a guide because what has worked for me may not work for you. I get about 75 or so matches a month, for some of you this may be very low for others this may be really high. So, I suggest you do your own experimentation. And if you get more matches than me I encourage you to comment below on what you agree/disagree with and add any other things that will benefit the community Also, I realize this is a REALLY LONG post, but at the same time I think that many of you will find it to be very valuable. I've put in a lot of time and thought into this. However, If there's only one area where you're having problems such as girls flaking (Best section out of all of these to read in my opinion and it works with all dates not just tinder girls) go ahead and skip to that part. I don't have The greatest looks in the world (I don't even lift), but what I have been having a lot of success with is engaging girls right off the bat and getting and setting up the dates while drastically reducing my number of flakes. 2. Tinder Profile Pictures: (Look at Pic A) Through your pictures you will be getting the type of girl that can relate to you not necessarily the type of girl you want. A. Main Picture: should be a picture where anyone can distinctively tell it's YOU ie. no group pictures especially a picture with you and another dude or a picture of a girl that's all over you, because then it'll seem like you're looking for a 3some. B. Getting the Type of girl you want (My profile is set-up to this) (If you want as many matches as possible skip to the next section "Broader range", however I do recommend you read this section and why I do this and what it gets me) The next pictures should be the type of girls you want to get (the problem with this is you'll be getting less matches however the matches you do get will be of girls you can
actually more so relate to. so, for example, I am looking for a girl that's classy but also likes to have fun so as you can see I have 1 picture with a suit on (main pic) since classiness is my main sticking point and I also have a picture of me graduating college (shows I'm ambitious and what not) and I have one of me in a dress shirt and tie. Then I have one of me at the beach since I love the beach and so on. Furthermore, ever since I started doing this I've been getting a lot more matches and I'm assuming it's because most girls would like to be with that "type" which I think is actually perceived at first glance as a provider (Now I know what all you ALPHA’s are thinking, but keep an open mind and read on) which may not be such a bad idea since most girls don't think "That guy! he looks like and alpha male! he looks like a sex god! I'm going to swipe right! (I may be wrong) and they don't think "I'm ratchet/ghetto as fuck I deserve the same, so this suited up guy wtf? LEFT!" rather they think oh that guy has his shit together, BUT once you look at my tinder game you'll see I go for the ALPHA killer instinct which is what will ultimately get you laid but you HAVE TO get the swipe before that and in order to do that you want that first glance provider look and that's how I am doing it. C. Broader range of girls these are my recommendations: 1. 1 party Pic that shows you have a good large inner circle (3-5 other people in it where your face is still visible, this shows you have value to offer) or 2 of you doing something really fun 2. 1 or 2 (different girls) where you're with a girl and you both look happy to be together (shows you are sexually desirable for other women) A must have for any tinder profile. 3. One with a cute animal and if you don't have one substitute it with something you enjoy doing such as traveling, so a picture of like the Eiffel tower or something like that behind you. 4. 1 of yourself 5. a picture that emphasizes the type of girl that you want for example if you like traveling have a second pic of you traveling, like food? of you eating . enjoy working out? one of you lifting or something. As far as shirtless pics go I'm pretty scrawny so I don't have the body for it. So, if someone wants to chime in on this go ahead, personally I haven't tested it out, so I won't make assumptions about it and from what I've seen it's a VERY debated topic so all I will say is test it out and see what it does for you. then write a report on it. 3. The Bio. (Look at Pic A)
Some people try to emphasize on this. It'll get you some extra matches BUT not very many more, it's mostly the pictures that do the trick. However, if you're not very facially pleasing then I would try to make a bio that is able to show you have more than your looks to provide value. I got some matches about 8 out of about 300 matches where my bio was complimented on ( Look at pic B). My old bio was something that really resonated with the type of person that I am and the type of person I was looking for, it was something like "Recent college graduate. Swag is for boys class is for men. Force me to sit still and my imagination will take off runnin'. Gold is in my horizon" (Stole part of it from a previous post I had read) for now I'm trying one that's a lot more funny which I think will resonate with more girls (pic A) 4. The Opener: I have tested A LOT of them some are listed below with rough estimates of response rates. Basically, the opener needs to be designed to get a response that is the only goal here with it, doesn’t matter how ridiculous it is as long as it gets a response. "Hey what's up!" Or "Hi" 10% "Well...Now THIS makes for an interesting story" 90% (This line can ONLY be used with girls you already know that you match with.) "What's your type?" 20% "Hurry up and seduce me" 15% This one works better as a text opener when she has given you her number (make sure it's congruent with the frame you set). "hey you're cute but beauty is common. what makes you different?" 10% After all the experimentation I've done there are two that have really worked well for me. A. The first one is: "I'm pregnant... And it's yours.." 85% (Look at pic C) I absolutely LOVE this opener because it has the ability to do two things. 1. Roleplay 2. Sexual Vibe I've used it countless times, so if you're in the OC area I've most likely used it on that girl lol so come up with a different line. This has a response rate of about 80-85% for me. Girls love it. Every girl has told me that it was if not the best opener one of the best that they had received (from the ones that responded obviously). Many of them have even told me that if I wasn't good looking then they would still have responded just because it was so funny. I actually went on a date last week with a Tinder girl who said and i quote "It was the best opener I had received on Tinder (Had because she deleted Tinder). I was laughing so hard, I didn't even know what to say, so I just played along with it"
2. second opener. Which doesn't set a strong a frame but its response rate is also insane: Its a variation of (I don't want to give out the exact line since I don't want EVERYONE because it'll defeat the purpose of it, If you REALLY want it PM me. either way the line should work just as well.) "So is this where I'm supposed to insert a witty message? because I'm kind of new". 90% (Look at pic D) I don't like using this one as much, but it's the one I started using before the pregnant opener. and I almost have a 90% response rate with it. Basically, it's an excuse not to use an opener it's like a cheat almost. This sets a innocent chode frame which RSDMax talks about in his tinder video. A lot of the times the response will be "you could have just said hi" obviously, that wouldn't have worked or "It's okay, I'm kind of new to this as well." Basically, you can take the conversation from there to whatever you want, just make sure you get passed it fast because it's not a very engaging topic. The problem is that most guys open with something like "Hey" "Hi" "Hi beautiful" "What are you doing" "Let's hang out right now" Girls are so used to this, a lot of the girls I've dated from Tinder have told me that if they are opened like that then they better fucking have an awesome ass profile if they are to respond. Remember, most of these girls are matching with most guys they swipe right to, so you need to set yourself apart. Lastly, if you come up with an opener you think is 100% you and that it's great, but it doesn't get a lot of response backs don't sweat it! Keep using it! why would you want to waste your time with a girl that doesn't like who you are? The pregnant line is totally something i would say, so it's congruent with me, so I can run with it. It may or may not work for you because it has to be congruent with who you are otherwise the conversation will die because after a few messages back and forth the girl will see right through the bullshit thus disengage. 5. Keeping the girl engaged and getting the number/date a. Engage:The key to keeping a girl engaged is making sure you’re someone that’s fun to talk to. Don’t ask general questions because it’s value sucking and you aren’t offering any value back. Instead ask unique questions like “tell me something you wouldn’t normally tell someone you just met” (makes the conversation interesting and sets you apart from all the other guys because she’s already opening up to you about things she wouldn’t normally share to the usual online guy. Also, for the more general questions make them
assumptions something like “you look like the type of girl that likes to go hiking” she’ll most likely invest more in her response instead of the usual “what do you enjoy doing for fun” and where she responds with a whole boring list and you go on and play 21 questions. b. Before Number: In order to get the date she needs to know a little bit about you and you need to get to know a little bit about her that’s where making assumptions about her and such comes into play. i. Comfort: you need to give her a sense of emotional comfort. You do this by being funny, teasing and qualifying her a bit so that she’s aware that you “genuinely” like her and not just some creep that wants to get into her pants. ii. Investment: You get her to invest by asking interesting questions that will lead to the date. Example: 1. Example scenario: 19yr old Asian girl a. You: You look like the type of girl that likes sushi (light hearted tease since she’s Asian) Her: is it because I’m Asian -_-? But yeah I do like sushi. You: Haha just a lucky guess ;). Oh and I see you enjoy dancing with friends. Her: yeah I love dancing You: awesome, you and I wil be going out for sushi then some dancing at (place/time) *This is a very rough and watered down example of what it should sound like so I would reword it and build on it. view it more like an outline. 2. You can play the question game to get her to invest as long as you’re not asking all of the questions basically, get her to ask you questions back as well and that way you’re both getting to know each other and while you ask questions be sure to be escalating them. c. Number close /date (Look at Pic E4 and F and I1-I4) once you've created a little of rapport go ahead and go for the number! very important is DO NOT ASK for it instead make it a statement. something like "send me your number and we'll go for coffee on saturday!" She may respond "I can't on saturday" to which you can respond "(name), fight for me!
haha, shoot me your number and we'll figure something out" she gives you the number and you then can send her another day and time you can do coffee. if again she says she can't then say something like "You're breaking my heart! lol, when are you available and I'll see what I can do". It's about being PERSISTENT NOT NEEDY! Another way to do this is to give a take away. So if she says “no” what that really means is “try again later, you haven’t made me comfortable yet” what you can do is take the no offer more value mostly make the conversation fun for a couple of texts and then instead of asking for the number say “hey you’re actually fun (qualification) and I am probably going to be deleting this app soon (take away.) so, here’s my number (insert number). Text me something witty ” (Pic I1-I4) Furthermore, when you want to ask for the number during a high note in the conversation when she's still engaged don't do it at the very beginning of the conversation because there is most likely not enough comfort, although there will be some girls like with anything that will be down right away. Just do it before the conversation dies, if you have any sort of social awareness you'll know when it's starting to go down. P.S. if she qualifies you don't hesitate go for it!
6. Re-opening/re- engaging (Look at pics E1-E4) notice the dates, I had to re-engage a week later) If they don't respond to you’re the first line you send or the conversation dies what I like to do is to try to re-engage after a few days or even months (if I'm really bored) "(Name), why haven't you messaged me yet? Fight for my love!" (or a variation of it) This line works about 40% of the time. The pregnant line opener also helps to re-engage although I haven't tested it out as much I've used it about 5 times for this worked 3 times. one of which the girls was like "if you had sent me anything else I probably wouldn't have responded, but that was hilarious, I had to" (there's a separate report I did on a particular girl I used this on, on facebook after approaching her and engaging her the first time on facebook and giving her an ultimatum. Let me know if you want me to tag you on it, I highly recommend it for people who want to up their text game and pass shit tests and how to game on facebook after not getting a number on an approach).
7. REDUCING FLAKES A lot of you can get as far as setting up the date BUT have A LOT of flakes. what you do here is you push/pull you want to make HER to say that she wants to go with you on this date. basically, you're making her chase and say it. So, what you do is you can purposely set up the date on a day/time you can't do it so it forces YOU to flake. This will force her into a chasing mindset, because you did the flaking she's now like "wtf?! Am I not worthy of this guy?" So what does she do in return she invests even more! I did this exact tactic on a girl that by the end she drove about 30 miles to pick me up and go on our date. The amount of investment was insane! it was basically a virgin lay with basically no LMR (last minute resistance). I'll write a lay report if enough people ask for it (i'm lazy lol). (Look at pic G1-G5) The other way you can do this is by setting up the date and taking a step back as in take any resistance she may have later on away by making her invest more into the date(Look at pic H, same tinder girl from pic F) For example: I said something sexually sarcastic to a girl and her response was "LOL oh my god you're too much" To which I responded "oh, it's okay if you don't want to go to ice-cream it's okay :’( " basically I gave her the option to bail on the date however most girls when they've just agreed to the date they don't think to themselves "I'm going to flake on them" so they'll say something like what this girl responded "No no of course I want to! Hahaha You're just very entertaining" So now she's consciously invested into it and told you and herself she wants to do it. If you use this tactic make sure you use a line that's borderline sarcastic to make her think it may just be a joke (which it is), but don't make it too clear. That's why i added the crying emoji. This doesn't just work with tinder girls it works for any girl! 8. Picture Feature (Like snapchat). Aldo Minano wrote a whole article on how to add value through snapchat and the idea with this tinder feature is exactly the same. Basically, you want to take pictures of you having fun, going out with friends in order to show you have value to offer. I highly recommend you use this feature for that purpose. 9. In conclusion: try to make your profile a universal as possible to get the most matches or direct them to a certain audience as I've tried to do.
The BEST opener is a witty funny one but if you're not naturally very funny and aren't really looking for that. maybe you want a girl that's really into music or something then make sure your profile is directed towards that and you can have passionate talks about music instead of funny conversations. Furthermore, just because a conversation died doesn't mean you can't re-engage the girl. and lastly get the number and set up the date with a statement and once you've set it up make sure to get her invest more. Keep tindering guys and NEVER stop approaching! Hope this helps! If there's something you need me to elaborate more on or any questions let me know. Also, if you guys want more examples of something I have dozens for each topic I talk about. 10. Recommendation Don’t do online unless you absolutely have to and don’t substitute for approaching. I literally only use it if I’m in the car with friends or on the toilet. I would recommend you start doing day game approaches at your local mall, park, beach etc. and once you get good at that maybe start doing the online stuff because let's say you get really good at gaming online first and you get the meet ups, then what? you'll be stuck because you have no real social game.
