The difference between Pure Awareness, EuStillness and EuFeeling
Question Asked.... To Frank: Frank : The difference between Pure Awareness, Awareness,
EuStillness and EuFeeling « on: October 10, 2014, 03:36:04 AM » A!red,
"#$ readin% ast Frank# book & '(en )ot(in% 'orks & and "#$ *u++ed it( t(e di!!erence beteen 3 conce*ts conce*ts t(at see$ to $ean t(e sa$e t(in%: -ure Aareness -A/ )ot(in% and no utiness. -A is t(e aareness o! )ot(in% and utiness is t(e aareness o!...stiness, but stiness is )ot(in%. o a are t(e sa$e. Or not "! not (at is t(e di!!erence A di!!erence o! de%ree M con!usion increases i ncreases (en Frank sas -A e*erience is not t(e ob5ectie. 7ut -A e*erience is t(e e*erience o! )ot(in%, ri%(t And t(e book is about about )ot(in%. Mabe Frank is tein% us t(at it is *ossibe to %o 78O)9 u!eein% to t(e dee*er *erce*tion o! utiness. Ok. 7ut (at is t(e di!!erence beteen utiness and -A
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9r Frank Einso ansers.... >e: To A!red: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness « >e* 3 on: October 16, 2014, 03:44:0G AM »
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>e: To Frank: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness « >e* 4 on: October 16, 2014, 04:03:24 AM »
du && " see t(at " !or%ot to address our concern oer ;not(in%;. )ot(in%, as !ar as t(e $ind is concerned is *ure aareness. ertain ;not(in%; coud easi be snon$ous it( *ure aareness.
(o ;not(in%; is *erceied. At(ou%( ;not(in%; and ;stiness; are essentia t(e sa$e t(e are *erceied di!!erent and so $ust be treated di!!erent in t(e teac(in% o! t(e utiness Tec(niHue. " %uess to anser our Huestion, inteectua treat ;not(in%; and ;stiness; t(e sa$e reai+in% t(at our brain *erceies t(e$ di!!erent. ?o%%ed Quantu$ ntrain$ent e: To Frank: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness « >e* J on: October 16, 2014, 0K:22:33 AM » Than# $%u, Fran#& I undertsand and n%w 'ractice will clarif$ all&
Frank, it#s %reat to (ae ou s(arin% our isdo$ on t(e !oru$LL " (ae a Huestion aon% t(is ein, t(e anser to or *onderin% on (ic( $i%(t ead to carit or !urt(er insi%(ts: "#e been carrin% t(e assu$*tion t(at ?"F, 7")C, and -=> A'A>) are di!!erent na$es !or and *ers*ecties on t(e sa$e !unda$enta state o! non& eistence. "s t(at t(e idea " on#t use t(e ter$ ;consciousness;, because it !as outside t(e cear de!initions it(in t(e Einso ste$, and t(ere are too $an *reconce*tions about (at it $eans. "! e understand t(at a o! reation issues !ro$ its source o! -ure Aareness, (ic( is absent o! ti$e, s*ace, $ass, ocation, *ers*ectie, or *erce*tion and t(ere!ore i$itess/, t(en t(e idea o! ;not(in%; i.e. $ind *erceiin% no ob5ect, t(ere!ore a assu$in% a oid/ is 5ust (o t(e $ind cate%ori+es -A. >at(er t(an bein% snon$ous it( -A, ;not(in%; is a descri*tion o! t(e $ind#s bind s*ot !or ant(in% t(at does not (ae !or$ and ocation. " notice a sense o! !eein% $ore ;aie; (en " a$ aare o! u!eein% and ustiness, and " re!ect on (at see$s to (a**en (en "#$
aare o! *ure aareness as dis&identi!in% !ro$ !or$. 9oes t(at $ake sense ert(in% see$s to (ae disa**eared in t(at $o$ent o! *erceiin% into t(e %a* beteen ob5ects o! *erce*tion t(ou%(ts or sensations/, or into t(e source beond t(e$, and (en " a$ abe to re!ect, " (ae t(is sense o! 9- >?"F A) F=?F"??M)T, ike ;O( ea(, " $ust (ae te$*orari !or%otten t(at A?? " '??. A((L :/.; "#$ not so $uc( onderin% (et(er $ e*erience is ;ri%(t; or ;ron%;: " kno it si$* ". "t#s t(is underin% assu$*tion or insi%(t t(at "#$ ed to t(at -A is ")9"B""7? ?"F and 7")C &¬(in% $ore or ess&& t(at "#$ onderin% about. "s t(at consistent it( our understandin% "! t(at is so, t(en coud one a to t(ink o! ustiness be as t(e !irst *erce*tion o! t(e !irst re!ection o! -A in reation: t(e initia stiness !ro$ (ic( a $oe$ent issues " see$ to *erceie eu!eein%s as !acets o! our unco$*icated, natura state (en e are %rounded in our source (ie en%a%ed in at so$e ee/ but detac(ed !ro$ t(e *(eno$ena ord. 7 ;detac(ed !ro$;, " $ean, not attac(ed b insecurit. 7o, t(is is not eas to rite aboutL o %ad ou (ae it don so e and in a a t(at aos us to eentua connect t(e dots !ro$ e*erience (en e do t(e tec(niHuesL " a$ so ookin% !orard to takin% ti$e out to reconnect it( ou and ot(er Q oers in *erson, s(arin% Q and %oin% dee*er into t(ese e*eriences it( our %uidanceL 7essin%s, A!red « ?ast dit: October 1K, 2014, 11:2K:1G AM b A!red » ?o%%ed Q -ractice Crou* 'ebinars: 1st 'ed, G&K:30*$ CMTN1.
Quantu$ ntrain$ent >e: To Frank: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness
« >e* K on: October 20, 2014, 04:J0:34 AM » -ease don#t be concerned about an con!usion ou $i%(t (ae oer t(e di!!erence beteen u!eein%, utiness, and *ure aareness. "n essence, t(e can on be %ras*ed b t(e $ind in t(e $ost abstract a. "t is our (abit, since e ie in t(e sensor ord o! ob5ects and ideas t(at e tr to de!ine, and t(ere!ore contro t(ese abstractions. 'e can on tru kno t(e$ t(rou%( our *erce*tion, or $ore accurate our ack o! *erce*tion o! t(e$. T(e de! inteectua scrutin. T(at said, et#s sa !ort( brandis(in% not our inteects but rat(er a *a!u sense o! e*oration. "n ot(er ords %us et#s (ae a itte !un. Our inteects i catc( u* in due course. T(e (oe idea o! not(in% *ure aareness/ beco$in% so$et(in% i neer $ake sense but t(at i be our orkin% (*ot(esis. A $a5or rei%ions see$ to !ee t(e sa$e, ;in t(e be%innin% as t(e oid;, And so on. T(e cosest *(sics co$es to t(is idea is t(e acuu$ state or +ero *oint (ere t(e *otentia !or creation eists but (as not et been e*ressed, t(e oest *ossibe *oint o! ener%. " t(ink it is t(e *oint in a si$*e sine ae (ere t(e ae is no on%er %oin% u* but (as not et started don. At an rate, t(ere is sti so$e se$bance o! !or$ and ener% in +ero *oint so it cannot be *ure aareness. -ure aareness (as no ener% and no !or$. " ike A!redPs *(rasin% t(at not(in%R is t(e $indPs bind s*ot !or t(e !or$ess.
so$et(in% it oud no on%er be )ot(in%. '(at a Huandar !or )ot(in%. eait in t(is case bein% *ure aareness. T(e are !or$s and *ure aareness is !or$ess and nar t(e tain s(a $eet. At east t(at is (o it a**ears to bot( t(e cassica *(sicist and t(e Huantu$ $ec(anica *(sicist. 7ut t(ere is t(e t(ird inter*retation introduced in t(e Huote aboe, co$*ete nonsensica and beond co$$on e*erience. T(at i be t(e startin% *oint !or $ atte$*t to e*ain and unite t(e t(reeS *ure aareness, utiness, and u!eein%. '(en *ure i%(t strikes a *ris$ its *ure i%(t ibration is atered at !irst a itte and t(en $uc( $ore to !or$ t(e seen basic coors. '(en *ure aareness creates, it !irst beco$es a *ri$a ibration and t(en t(e in!inite ibration!or$s o! *(eno$ena creation. O! course, a !or$s are not(in% but *ure aareness. 'e nor$a do not *erceie a rock as *ure aareness. 'e see t(e !or$ and e abe it and stick it aa so$e(ere in t(e back o! our $ind as rock: been t(ere done t(atR. 7ut i! e coud ook absoute into t(e in!init o! t(e rock e oud !ind *ure aareness. T(atPs (at t(e utiness Tec(niHue cutures in our aareness. T(e not(in% tec(niHue oud eentua do t(e sa$e t(in% but oud take $uc(, $uc( on%er to reai+e *ure aareness in t(e t(in%s and t(ou%(ts o! t(e *(eno$ena ord. -erce*tion o! utiness Huick cutures t(e reai+ation t(at *ure aareness is a&*er$eatin%. "t rea is Huite a$a+in%. )o back to our *ris$ anao%. -ure aareness is o! course anao%ous to t(e *ure i%(t. -ure aareness and (ere co$es t(e inco$*re(ensibe *art/ is aso t(e !irst $oe$ent or bendin% o! itse! be!ore it takes on t(e $ore reco%ni+abe !or$ o! u!eein%, (ic( is aso *ure aareness. en t(ou%( utiness is aso *ure aareness " aso identi! t(is !irst bendin% o! *ure aareness as utiness si$* as a $atter o! conention, a teac(in% too. T(at !irst $oe$ent is so$e(o a ink beteen non&$oe$ent and t(e
$ore concrete !or$ and $oe$ent o! t(e rest o! creation. '(en e *erceie t(at !irst $oe$ent, utiness, e readi reco%ni+e t(e non&$oe$ent o! *ure aareness it(in t(e ob5ects o! *erce*tion. o in a nuts(e, *ure aareness, not(in%, and utiness are a t(e sa$e but " aso use utiness to re!er to t(e !irst subte ar$in% u* o! *ure aareness be!ore it soidi!ies into t(ou%(t and cor*orea !or$. T(is is (e*!u !or t(e student as it !or$s a *erce*tua brid%e beteen non&&knoabe *ure aareness and t(e ord (e is !a$iiar it(. Eufeeling, of course, is the first manifestations of EuStillness , t(e coors o! our inner essence, sti uniersa but on t(eir a to beco$in% indiidua e*ressions o! ou and $e. Cads, " (ad a one *ara%ra*( anser in $ind (en " started t(is Ana " (o*e t(is doesnPt scare o!! t(e ri%(t&brainers out t(ere but t(is sure (as been !un. %ood to (ear !ro$ ou A!red...E sends (er (od. ?o%%ed Quantu$ ntrain$ent ose e: To Frank: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness « >e* 10 on: )oe$ber 14, 2014, 0G:46:3U -M » "t is so nice to (ae t(e Einso#s Eorner (ere e can direct (ear !ro$ Frank. " (ae been too bus it( $ Da*anese %rou* t(at " asn#t een aare t(at Frank started u* t(is Eorner. T(ank ou, Frank and Trian%uation. A!ter attendin% t(e Art o! tiness orks(o*s in Da*an, it is a %enera consensus t(at $an o! t(e Da*anese Qers ere aread doin% t(e tiness tec(niHues natura. "t aso see$s easier !or t(e$ to acce*t t(e #not(in%# conce*t it(out $uc( discussion and t(e *ro%ression o! eert(in% t(at co$es out o! t(at not(in%, and (o t(is not(in% is *er$eatin% t(rou%( eert(in%.
To $e, t(e *ris$ anao% is er cear and $ost use!u in e*ainin% t(is *ro%ression. 8'<>L As in )ot(in% Tec(niHue, ou beco$e aare o! utiness beteen our t(ou%(ts, ob5ects, s*aces, and t(rou%(out t(e$ a. T(en, t(ere is no need !or e*anation. 8ou aread e*erienced t(e$ a. T(ank ou, Frank, a%ain !or brin%in% t(is di!!icut to e*ain sub5ect, to a er *ractica ee o! e*eriencin%. S/ ?oe and a**reciation, Miri « ?ast dit: )oe$ber 1J, 2014, 06:33:20 -M b >ose » ?o%%ed To au%( at (at#s !unn W ourse!, een (en ou are not Te: To Frank: t(e di!!erence beteen -ure Aareness, )ot(in% and utiness « >e* 11 on: )oe$ber 21, 2014, 0K:4K:0G AM »
orks(o* i anser our Huestion about utiness bein% t(e !irst *erce*tion o! t(e !irst re!ection o! *ure aareness in creation 8ou are ri%(t to t(ink in t(is a, seein% utiness as t(e !irst re!ection o! *ure aareness, but utiness is aso 5ust *ain oP *ure aareness. (ae brou%(t u* indiisibe i!e, bein%, and *ure aareness, and " $i%(t add not(in%R as e. A are snon$s !or *ure aareness. 7ut to our $inds, and t(is is er i$*ortant to reai+e, t(e noneistence o! *ure aareness (as no aue so our $inds kee* ookin% !or so$e aue, so$et(in% to (od onto in an e!!ort to understand so$et(in% t(at canPt be understood. T(ere is aas %oin% to be con!usion because our $inds ant to $ake *ure aareness indiisibe i!e, bein%, not(in%, u!eein%, utiness, etc./ a t(in% to be $ani*uated, to be %ras*ed and ieded ike a (a$$er a%ainst t(e (ead o! a nai. T(is 5ust ainPt aP%onna (a**enPL utiness is bot( unbounded, *ure aareness and its !irst $ani!estation in our $inds. >e$e$ber t(e anao% o! t(e *ris$. '(en i%(t strikes t(e *ris$ it bends be!ore it breaks into t(e coors o! t(e rainbo. utiness is t(e *ure i%(t and its !irst bendin% be!ore it beco$es t(e e*ressions *eace, 5o, oe, biss/ o! u!eein%. 8T<")C is *ure aareness in essence. A rock, a rock star, and a rocket are a *ure aareness in essence. "t doesnPt $atter (o $an na$es e attac( to *ure aareness e i neer understand it. "n !act t(e $ore t(in%s e ca *ure aareness t(e $ore $uddied our *erce*tion o! it can beco$e. 8ou $a boo $e o!! t(e !oru$ !or (at " a$ about to sa but our $inds cannot rea kno ant(in% in its entiret. O! course on t(e absoute ee t(at is because it cannot kno *ure aareness !ro$ (ic( eert(in% is $ade. 7ut een on t(e ee o! t(e ob5ect itse! e are not abe to kno ant(in% co$*ete. '(en ou ook at a rock ou $i%(t t(ink ou kno it, be abe to cassi! it and stick it aa it( ot(er rocks in t(e back o! our $ind but t(ere is $ore to a rock t(an our senses, and een our scienti!ic or *sc(ic inesti%ation can reea. O! course a rock (as its outer a**earance but it aso (as its $oecuar structure, itPs ato$ic structure, subato$ic structure, ae structure and its in!ant actions and reactions it( eer ot(er created t(in% on eer ot(er ee o! creation. o$*ete knoed%e is an iusion. T(at is ( )isar%atta so stron% con!ir$ed t(at, Enoed%e is i%norance.R o$e(ere aon% t(e *at( ou 5ust (ae to et %o o! t(e idea t(at ant(in% can be understood in its entiret
and *ure aareness, or an o! its snon$s can not be understood in an a. T(is is t(e !ina reai+ation b suc( *(ioso*(ica sste$s as adaita edanta. T(e aue o! u!eein% or utiness or *ure aareness is not in our understandin% o! it but indeed our *erce*tion or ack t(ereo!/ o! it. T(is is ( Q orks so incredib !ast. 'e eae be(ind a o! t(e *(ioso*(ica bindin%s, e$otiona s(ackes, *(sica abors, beie!s, (o*es, and aried ot(er tra**in%s, in !aor o! *ure *erce*tion. T(ere is a certain *eace, or s(oud " sa certain *eaceR (en one surrenders to t(e reait t(at our $inds e%o drien $inds cannot *roide t(e uti$ate e*erience. " (o*e t(is (e*s A!red 7 t(e a t(anks !or our %racious reie o! '(en )ot(in% 'orks Tr 9oin% )ot(in% on A$a+on. ?et $e inite ou a to s(are our insi%(ts and i$*ressions about our readin%s o! '(en )ot(in% 'orks Tr 9oin% )ot(in% . ?o%%ed Quantu$ ntrain$ent