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Kurt's Use Of Harmonic Minor Over Maj7 Chords (47 posts)
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Ma+7th chor#s
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*i gu%s0 i rea# on another &orum that Kurt uses the 1th mo#e o& the *armonic Minor scae o2er ma+7th chor#s3 bingefeller
oes an%one know i& he rea% #oes use this0 or is it +ust a rumour5 ,so0 can someone point me in the #irection o& what this
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soun#s ike in a recor#e# setting5
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333 8ou can actua% %ouse ma+7:$$ or 2ice 2e ras ( use harmonic minor #uring this;these chor#s )3 I #on
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&at 1th #egree o& harm onic minor o2er ma+or7 chor#= %es> turns it into a one #iminishe# chor# which is a suspension suspension o& ma+or3 so % ou can use it as a suspension an# then reso2e3
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? ma+or7 harmonic minor B;? kurtisrosenwinkel ,#ministrator
B7b@ %ou can think o& c ma+or as B7b@ going to = or %ou can think o& ? ma+or as ,=0 an# then use 7b@ to ,=3 thinking this wa% creates ca#ence in %our ines e2 en as %ou are pa%ing o2er a static chor#3 P6"T P6"T $ 8,R 8,R ,96 ,96 :
, rep% &rom Kurt himse&> Thank %ou so much0 this has ma#e m% #a%3 )
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,wesome> .ow +ust imagine i& this turne # into a r eguar coumn o& A,sk KurtA (about harm onic an# meo#ic concepts) hint hint arewolfe Member
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coo0 i ha2e to practice m% harmonic minor mor e an# remember this3
patfarlow Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
ask awa%
kurtisrosenwinkel ,#ministrator P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
#i# %ou practice %our egato aot50 its 2er% smooth3
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aso wou# %ou min# taking about the intro to Aa i&e un&o#sA on the reme#%5 its one o& the most be auti&u pices e2er patfarlow Member
is it a impro25 #i# %ou write it out &irst5 thanks 2er% much P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
This is sort o& a aC% man
changes (asi#e &rom putting a II= be&ore a chor# change0 or a tritone sub o& the II= be&ore a chor# change333 i3e3 F:=7 to
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B7 to Bb7)5 ,so0 are there an% recor#s %ou re commen# checking out &or comping5 I suck at comping3 I istene# to the gigs with oe Frahm at "mas an# %our com ping was kier3 P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
, ot o& Duestions come to m% min# *a2e % ou &oun# a
notes33 not sure i& it
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I<2e been ooking &or answers to this Duestion &or a ong time3 I think some answers are in the use o& tria#s or pieces o& them in the phrase3 "ometime s not #iatonic tria#s0 on% with one or two notes o& the scae;chor# i P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
GG In r egar#s to passing chor#s0 I transcribe# some o& AThese Fooish ThingsA &rom that cinic3 It seeme # ike approaching a chor# &rom a ha& step abo2e0 the passing chor# was usua% a #ominant3 ,n# approaching &rom a ha& step beow the passing
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chor# was a #iminishe# chor#3 Is that the i#ea5
arewolfe Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
arewo&e0 an% chance %ou cou# post that transcription5 I remember &irst hearing that piece an# being absoute% &oore#3 kurt is kiing with this stri#e e/e rcise thing0 i cou# isten to him pa% ike t hat a #a% ong
fakejake Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
kurt0 i wou# o2e to know what happens with %our e%es when %ou
fakejake Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
GG In r egar#s to passing chor#s0 I transcribe# some o& AThese Fooish ThingsA &rom that cinic3 It seeme # ike approaching a chor# &rom a ha& step abo2e0 the passing chor# was usua% a #ominant3 ,n# approaching &rom a ha& step beow the passing chor# was a #iminishe# chor#3 Is that the i#ea5 kurtisrosenwinkel
%es0 thats the i#ea3 check out using a #ominant bH chor# &rom a ha& step beow= its an e /pression o& 7 whoe tone0 with
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nice #ecepti2e root motion3 P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
i practice# aot to achei2e a egato techniDue3 theres aot to it3 speaking o& egato0 i am going to hear aan ho#sworth tonight> in &act0 i gota go now3 cheers a kurtisrosenwinkel ,#ministrator
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Kurt %our egatto thing is unbeai2abe = 2e r% har# to #o that without #istortion> 8ou shou#n
%ou #i# some transcribing0 spent a ot o& time searching &or %our soun# ; 2oice an# using %our 2oice in impro2 istion0 aso
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practicing tons o& scae patterns an# #oing ots o& +ams in .8 an# aso #oing the Acontinuous scae e/ercisesA to get better at mo#uations (these are the ones I know &rom cinics ; inter2iews0 I assume %ou practice# ots o& other things) What wou# %ou sa% it w as the most #ecisi2e o& a (i& there
Wou# %ou0 i& %ou #on
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i practice# aot to achei2e a egato techniDue3 theres aot to it3
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Mr3 Kurt Rosenwinke0 are %ou wiing to e/poun# this statement5 what #i# %ou #o to practice it5 wi %ou e2er ma%be write a theor% book5 P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
*i Kurt0 are most o& %our 2oicings #eri2e# &rom #rop-0 J0 4 -=J an# -=45
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What I mean is = #o %ou +ust earn these stock 2oicings &irst0 then ater them as %ou want to5 For e/am pe0 &atten the Hth to get bH chor# Thanks a ot monk Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
First%0 I am &attere# that Kurt with his bus% sche#ue to answer on some o& the Duestions aske# here3 "ome peope seem 2er% #eman#ing an# e/pect thorough an# #e&initi2e answers &rom Kurt3 We m% Duestion yaclaus Member
*ow #o %ou approach time an# how ha2e %ou practice# time5 best &rom ?aus P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
*e% orge0 I took %our emai a##ress &rom another threa# an# sent %ou what I ha2e333 not the actua 2oicings (ha2en
arewo&0 #i# %ou mean +orge or +ake5 i checke# but ha2en> fakejake Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
*e sen# it to me instea# +ake0 area#% sen# an e=mai back teing him that>
jorgemg1984 Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
cheers>
fakejake Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
*aha333 oops3 M% ba#3 Re=sent to &ake+ake3
arewolfe Member P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
aso wou# %ou min# taking about the intro to Aa i&e un&o#sA on the reme#%5 its one o& the most be auti&u pices e2er kurtisrosenwinkel ,#ministrator
is it a impro25 #i# %ou write it out &irst5 that intro is a impro2ise#3 i was #eaing with some tr ia#ic moti&s at the time that appear in it3 the opening thing is +ust open tria#s going through the c%ce o& &ourths3 then theres some othe c%ce o& &ourth stu&& amongst aot o& &ree im pro2isation333 P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
This is sort o& a aC% man
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changes (asi#e &rom putting a II= be&ore a chor# change0 or a tritone sub o& the II= be&ore a chor# change333 i3e3 F:=7 to
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B7 to Bb7)5 tr% ca#ences= progressions that go #i&&erent paces3 %ou cou# think o& these as wa%s to construct %our ines0 or wa%s to impro2ise chor#a%333the trick is practicing in time an# &iguring out wa%s to reso2e to the important chor#s o& the bues so that it makes sense3 but e2er%thing inbetween can be e/pore# in man% wa%s3 this is one o& them3 P6"T $ 8,R ,96 :
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I<2e been ooking &or answers to this Duestion &or a ong time3 I think some answers are in the use o& tria#s or pieces o& them in the phrase3 "ometime s not #iatonic tria#s0 on% with one or two notes o& the scae;chor# i
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