How to Get Her Addicted to You A lot of guys come to this board seeking advice for how to meet women, figuring that once they can fuck a chick that everything else will just fall into place. Sorry to disappoint! Putting your dick in her is only the first step. If you want women to keep coming back, or to have your own stock of female orbiters to cherry pick from, you gotta learn how to get them ADDICTED to you. The first thing is to get her to invest i nvest more in you than you do in her. Reply less to her txts. Be slightly less engaged in conversation than her. Look down or away as if you're losing interest then glance over again when she says something really interesting. Never peck or lean in. When I see guys in restaurants on first dates (it's obvious), they always lean in and sta re at her, feigning rapt attention. There's no challenge for her. Gross. If she says she "likes" you (or worse "loves" you), don't reciprocate. Just smile and give her a squeeze, or say "thank-you" genuinely. And if you feel like she's pushing for a reaction, change the subject quickly. If she's pushing for a response and you can't ignore her for whatever reason, you can give her an abstract answer about how you're really picky and only spend time with really amazing people. That let's her know that you probably like her but only as long as she's "amazing". It also tells tel ls her that she's competing with other equally equall y wonderful women. Don't go out with her. You'll become her boyfriend and there will be no more mystery. Going out WITHOUT her is good. She'll see that you have social value, and wonder why you won't go out with her. You'll be like Indiana Jones going on secret missions while she waits for you at home. It's exciting for her (and also scary). s cary). Too often I see guys ask for advice on "cute date ideas" or ways to ENTERTAIN her. This is a bad headspace. You're not trying to be her FRIEND. You're not trying to get her to LIKE you. Girls have plenty of chump orbiters who will go to a concert with them at a moment's notice, or to take her on a road trip, t rip, or to buy her drinks. DON'T BE THAT GUY. You're the m ysterious sexy guy who's doing who-knowswhat, and she's lucky just have to have a few hours with you at YOUR DISCRETION. You don't have to plan "dates." Just hanging out with her in bed is plenty enough. You're different because you're manlier than all the other guys. Manly because you don't NEED her in your life. Manly because becaus e you have your own mission, your own purpose. You ALLOW her to spend time with you as long as she's positive and wonderful and treats you well. Don't be easily available. She shouldn't know what you do on your own time. Schedule some dates at the last minute. If she can't ca n't make it, that's fine. She'll work that much harder to be available for you next time. She'll be sitting by her phone waiting for your call ( I know this sounds manipulative; I mean it figuratively). Be unpredictable: With your words, with your schedule, your behavior. She should never really know what you're thinking or feeling. Sure, she knows you like to fuck her, but she has no clue what her value is to you beyond that (although you should drop hints). Be vague and hard to pin down. The goal is i s for you to be on her mind without her being on yours. If you start obsessing over her the script will be flipped and she will lose attraction attr action for you. Be busy and see other women so that you're never focused on any single one. This will naturally cause you to be maddeningly aloof. You have to be willing to make a woman angry. You have to be willing to let her hate you.
You have to be willing for her to be frustrated. It causes TENSION. And that's what gets her addicted to you. Yes, women will cry over you. If you can't handle that, then settle down already and don't waste your time on this board. And note that her being "addicted" is par tly a shit test: A tactic for her to manipulate you into admitting that you like her (or even "love" her). Once she "has" you though, she doesn't need to work anymore. The passion dies in that moment. She should always have to work hard to please you. She should always feel like s he could lose you forever at any moment. And of course, I'm saving the most important for last: AMAZINGLY HOT SEX. Nothing above even remotely matters if you can't fuck her hard and make her cum like crazy. Some women are incapable of orgasming (sadly) but can still be hooked on your affection and validation. It's up to you if you want to spend your time with them. But with most women, make sure she's drenching your cock with her lady cum every time you're together. Drive her INSANE in bed. Every time she's with you should be a wild hot passionate adventure. She should be trying all sorts of new things that she's never tried with any other man, and LOVING IT. Cum on her tits, cum in her mouth, fuck her in the ass, eat out her pussy (pin her down if you have to). Throw her around like she's your pleasure toy. Be bold and fearless and do what YOU want. This post was originally inspired by some TXTs that HBgemini sent yesterda y. I copied a few of them below so you can get an impression of the kind of responses you should get from women. Her: So do you like me? Me: Aww I feel like you just passed me a note in class. One checkbox for "no" and one checkbox for "yes". Her: Which would you check. Me: I'd write "meet me in the playground after school" and then show you how I felt :-D Then later from her: "I have an uncanny ability to sense how people are feeling. Like always. But for some reason I cannot get any sort of read from you and its driving me crazy."
My Guide to Sexting I wish I was little bit taller, I wish I was a baller I wish I had a girl who looked good I would call her
I wouldn't call myself an expert per se but, man, it's all about SEXTing over here. Let's just say I get a shitload of practice. These days, it's not only how girls prefer to conduct their communications, it's how they screen guys and entertain themselves. Gaming over text means becoming the radio station that they listen to in a world of static. Now if I was smooth like Z, or good looking like Johnny, or a badass-motherfucker like Dog, I probably wouldn't spend nearly so much time on text. But I need to keep throwing out little pings to see which of my new numbers will hook; I use text for little comfort bumps; and of course I text for logistics. I try to follow the rules about waiting as long as her and writing less than her as much as possible, but I break these rules all the time, too. So, instead of offering a bunch of hard and fast laws, I'll just explain the overriding principles I consider most important when SEXTing girls:
1. Can I be briefer? Whatever you are thinking of writing, try to get it down to about half of your normal exposition. Most pleasantries and formal sentence structures can be skipped entirely. For example, you can usually drop prepositional modifiers or initial subject-verb inversion at the beginning of sentences. So "are you going to the game?" can simply be rendered "going to the game?" I always spend a minute looking over my text before I hit "send" for words or phrasing that can make my texts a little shorter and more concise. This is the texting equivalent of solid BL because it makes your communication more clear and efficient. She will notice this. ex. Instead of: Wild night, huh? Just calling to see if you got home all right . I might send something like: home safe yet?
Notice the lack of capitalization and punctuation. This doesn't need to be a hard and fast rule. Same with smileys. Just do whatever's comfortable, but err on the side of minimalness. It's more masculine. As mentioned, it is often possible to drop entire sentences yet retain the same message/meaning. So, for example, instead of: Hey, sorry I missed your call. I was in the shower. What time are you heading over?
This is just as intelligible, but cooler: showered now. when u heading over? Even for my own texts, I can usually find a way to drop at least a word or two if I make the effort. Try it yourself! You'll eventually get the hang of it.
2. Is my message coherent? Often, I see guys or girls texting stuff like: ha ha ha. that sounds awesome sweetie but this week is a little tough. I have exams and work. but have a good time if you go. maybe we can hook up for pizza or something next week. how's Thursday after 4:00?
Stop talking her ear off and saying ten things at once! Try to make your message: a) easy to understand; b) condensed; and c) unified. A good guideline is simply: one message/meaning per
text. (Notice I didn't say one sentence. Don’t get bogged down and turn this into a golden rule. Again, err on the side of minimalism.) In the above example, frankly, unless you are deep in comfort with a girl you've already fucked multiple times and can completely let your guard down around her, you are going to come off like a teenage girl. A better response would be something like: can't make it this time. maybe pizza next Thurs? When push comes to shove, the need to be coherent takes precedence over even the need for complete or supplemental information. IOW, if you need to talk about two distinct and important things, it is better to talk about them in two separate texts--even at the risk that you will not receive the desired response after the initial text. If the communication is insufficient, rather than filling in too much detail, just rely on the other party to ask for clarification. Ex. Instead of: Yeah, last night was amazing. You guys really have some mad skills. I am a wreck this morning. I can barely move. The only thing I wasn't sure about is... did you say you were really sisters?
Try: Last night was intense. I'm wrecked. Yeah, you might have to sit on your question for a bit. But be patient. Let your words have substance and room to breathe. Especially during comfort, guys get bogged down in masculine
communication--details and information, clarification and m oving the conversation forward when it's better to simply focus on making concentrated, impactful statements.
3. What is my desired outcome? Repeat after me: SEXTing is not a forum for communication: it is a means to an END. For the purposes of PUA, those ends can be either to 1) BUILD/CONFIRM ATTRACTION, 2) BUILD COMFORT, or 3) DETERMINE LOGISTICS. Those ends roughly correspond to the three stages of fishing: HOOK,
PLAY and REEL. Keep only these ends in mind when you text. Do not text if your goal is unclear or does not confirm to one of these ends!
HOOK-Build or confirm attraction In my previous reports, I refer to “pinging” girls for interest. What this basically means is that I throw
out unusual or humorous texts to try to get a reaction from girl s. Based on those reactions, I will try to push for meets. This is equivalent to casting out a line and seeing which fish will bite. I can divide all of my Hook texts into the following categories: a) non sequiturs; b) temptations or c) pics. Examples of a) would be: It's raining on good looking people!! I just woke up (sent at 3:00 PM) Am I dying? Everything tastes like metal. Pray for me (sent on Sunday morning)
Examples of b) would be: Tequila. are you with me? Going to an open mic. Should I sing Sinatra or Metallica? I need someone to help me buy some fucking arugala! what kind of ice cream do you like? bet i can guess...
Examples of c) would be: shit like this: bears.JPG just chillin'
or this: mmmburger.jpg mmm... breakfast
or this: photo.jpg whoops... how did that get there?
Just realize that ANY sort of response from a girl is good. Even "lol" or a smiley is an IOI. Your purpose is to fan this interest into a meet. A successful hook is anything that gets a girl's response. Obviously, temptation hooks are more practical for transitioning into logistics since she will often reply "sounds like fun" or something of that nature. I use non sequitur hooks with girls I have not slept with or I use them once every two months to try to re-kindle old numbers and see if there's any interest.
PLAY-Build comfort This is obviously the text version of cocky-funny but I also like to mix in some sincerity game. During play texting or text flurries, you can normally abandon your "wait longer than her before responding" or "stick to one topic" rules and just vibe. I would still maintain maximum brevity as an essential discipline. What you should NOT do is: *answer all her questions *ping-pong back and forth like an interview *seek validation for the sake of validation I'll just offer some real examples of fluff text between me and a new stewardess who opened me (I swear) with comments in italics (translated from Korean): (Oct. 27, 3:29 AM) Me: Nice to meet you~ let's grab a bite next time^^ Polite first text with standard future projection.
(Oct. 28, 9:18 PM) notice she replied the next day... Her: I trust you got home alright? (Oct. 28, 9:50 PM) Me: ohmygod. you're texting me back now~? stewardesses are trouble... Good old false disqualifiers. They still w ork.
Her: I just got your message now~ hee hee hee Me: We're going back to B1 for Halloween? U? After the party, where I bumped into her and her friend again and she saw me flirting with other women, I made her promise we'd go on a date since we live in the same neighborhood. She seemed disappointed that I did not give her enough attention in the club.
(Oct. 30, 2:31 PM) Me: hello playgirl~^^
(Oct. 30, 3:21 PM) Her: ha ha I'm not a playgirl. do you go to B1 every night? Her: are you a playboy? (Oct. 30, text flurry) Me: meet me and find out! heh heh u free later? Don't answer all her questions. Push for the meet.
Her: I'm at work. Flying to Seattle today. Me:
should we have a picture date?
Her: what's a picture date? Me: we take live pictures and send them to each other. Me: in bed? Me: or we could just get together when you get back I purposely sent her a quick series of messages so she could not reply, leaving it ambiguous whether I was serious or not. I didn't really expect her to agree to the picture exchange but I wanted to plant the idea of sex in her head. Later I will just send her a picture anyway and press her to send me one of hers.
Her: lol see you when I get back~ (Oct. 31, 10:10 PM) I phoned early Seattle time because I know she will have arrived and I know she will be up early (7:10 her time) or in bed!
Me: arrive safe in Seattle? (Oct. 31, text flurry) Her: hee hee yes~ Me: hey, my folks are in Vancouver... want to meet them? my mom's a great cook^^ I push comfort talk about food and parents so that during the time we are apart she will FEEL like we are closer. Similar in principle to Blackdragon's "Comfort Bombardment" technique.
Her: sounds great!^^ so were you born in Vancouver? Me: what do you like to eat? I'll tell mom to get it ready ha ha I ignore questions that have simple answers that we can discuss in person. Instead, push more comfort.
Her: ha ha it's still warm in Seoul isn't it? it's been raining here and it feels like winter~ This is her attempt to vibe with me, talking about the weather and HER FEELINGS. So I know my Play was successful, I can wrap it up soon.
Me: don't catch a cold. when you come back I'll ta ke you on a hot date *puke* The important point is not to follow the exact timing or correct phrasing or routines that I do but to generate a real sense of CONNECTION. You do this by the words you choose AND by the things you choose to talk about. If you were to do a concordance of all my sexts, you would find me consistently repeating words like "awesome," "crazy," "bed," "sexy," "want," "hot," "delicious " and "I want to see you." And probably 70% of the time I am talking about eating, sleeping, drinking, traveling or music. When I need to refer to work or mundane routine, I quickly gloss over it or refer to i t as "stuff." It should be clear to you that this is done to generate good vibes, keep the convo fun and to plant the seeds of sexual intercourse. One way I like to think of it before I press send is simply: What kind of emotion am I trying to
express/provoke? If you don't know the answer, reconsider your Play text. REEL-Determine logistics If I haven't nailed down a date through comfort, I'll still keep pushing for a meet up. When I say pushing, though, I should clarify: my pushing is very soft. It's not that I'm constantly asking her out on dates; it's more like since we're bound to bump into each other anyway, I'm just offering her an impromptu opportunity to get together. For example: i'm hungry. u eat? i have an extra ticket for a show tomorrow. u busy? did you see Whatever Movie yet? thinking about going...
You always want to phrase things so that if she declines it's no big deal. When you start to feel there's too much anticipation building or when she has refused several offers in a row it's time to back off and cool down for a bit. Radio silence for a while and then re-initiate from the Hook. As you can see, I frequently employ the tried and true method of suggesting to a girl I'm already going somewhere and just inviting her along. It should go without saying that if she agrees, you have ALL THE LOGISTICS worked out far in advance from Main Event to First Bounce to Location of Sex. Also, another key is to simply seed the meet early, even during the # close. That is also the beauty of Temptation Hooks. Once she has shown interest in your projected plans, it's like she's obligated to go with you. Most girls don't like to make spur of the moment decisions. I have generally poor results with same-
day text and meet-ups, too, even with girls I've fucked. But I keep doing them because that is what's sometimes convenient for me. Still, I recommend either a) you simply lock down specific days for specific activities so that she can meet you when her schedule conforms; or b) expect a refusal, but turn that refusal into a promise for a day or two (or a week) later. So, for b) it would go something like this: Me: i hate wine. why do i drink it so much? Her: lol. because you're an alcoholic? Me: i need you to help me with this bottle of Riesling Her: ha ha. where are you? Me: that's not important right now. how much can you drink? Her: I'm already home... Me: I see. you seem like more of a sake girl anyway... Her: I love sake! Me: Let's try again next week. I know this great little sake bar. When you free? I've found that generally the longer in advance you make the appointment, the more you open yourself up to some kind of flake or rescheduling. Some guys like to preempt this with confirmation texts but I feel like those are too needy. I'd rather she doesn't show up to the venue so I have something over her, than have to chase her around by text and turn her into the prize. Finally, when girls are giving LMR to agreeing to the meet or when there are last-minute logistical considerations like potential flakiness or rescheduling issues... just call her
4. Am I being distinctive? Most of the texting advice in the community revolves around "Killer Lines" and how to be funny and witty. I can't teach this. Some guys can't emulate it. For some guys it's just not congruent. (I could never quite make this one work: "Aliens are abducting all the good-looking people! Don't worry, you're safe. I just wanted to say goodbye...") For a lot of guys, I would say, focus rather on being DISTINCTIVE rather than trying to be cocky/funny, hooking with every opener or getting the same night lay. In a nutshell, these are ways to make yourself distinctive through text, regardless of your actual conversational style:
don't respond right away to her texts and don't respond too enthusiastically to her interest (old news) yet, don't be afraid to get into text flurries during comfort (new news) a good rule of thumb is to wait at least as long as her before initiating texts (old news) another good rule is to only return texts at certain times of the day like at lunch hour o r after 9:00 PM (new news) if she doesn't respond, don't chase; when she withdraws, you withdraw
don't get sidetracked by her talking; instead, focus on your purpose. ex. if you are trying to nail down logistics, don't get drawn into comfort. don't be afraid to say stupid, irrational or non sequitur stuff. at least it beats boring end on a high note, even if you are the last to text. ex. "'night sweetie" let her know you DO STUFF, wait for her to express interest the text out of the blue from her is your time to mobilize and act swiftly! Move directly to logistics. consider the EMOTIONAL content of your statements and hers; use this to guide your responses rather than words or ideas ( this is pretty complex, I realize)
Whew! Is that everything? Well, that's all I got anyway. Any other tips, pointers, criticism and observations welcome. Love Dai
How I Set Up My Social Circle We hear/read alot about how to seduce women and how to cold approach them. I haven't read much on fucking your social circle or how to grow your social circle once you have fucked everyone inside of it. Hopefully this post will help people out in such an adventure. Just a point, most of my lays this year (30 or so of them) have been from social circle/party game which are pretty much the same thing in my eyes. Just a quick disclaimer: I probably didn't come up with anything here. I took from the community and the greats. Also, I live in a social clique ran city. Small and very "who knows who" sort of deal. It is hard to "cold approach" someone here as once the names are exchanged, it's almost always "oh, do you know so and so? Yea, I've heard of you." Without further ado, here is what I did/do:
Mindset:
This is years in the making and honestly was the hardest part for me to acquire. I still have to work on it but it is slowly getting to where I am happy with it. The basis is that I know I am amazing. I know that people like me because of who I am and what I have to offer. I like validation and approval from people just like everyone else, but I don't need it in order to feel complete and happy. I think that is the major difference in my mindset. I don't need validation from others in order to feel okay with who I am.
I also am a very sexual person. I am very horny almost always and try to exude that sexual energy whenever I talk to people, guy or girl.
Action: The biggest tip that I have learned to work 100% of the time is to game more guys than you do girls when you are growing your social circle. You want these guys to like you and want to hang around you. You want that when you walk into a room, the guys jump up and say "TOV! YOU MOTHER FUCKER! COME HERE!" That is what you are shooting for. I am sure there are psychological reasons for this working, but don't worry about why it works. Just know that it does. What does this have to do with fucking women? If you don't know women, then meeting new people will help you get introduced to new women. The more people you know, the more women you will know. Also, when we show these guys that you are a manwhore, they will try to AMOG you and 'out' you as such, which is exactly what we want. We want these guys doing all the work for us while we reap the benefits of their work.
How do we get guys to want to party with us if we are a manwhore? Excellent question chap! And this is the thing that has skyrocketed my success this year. The first few times you hang out with these new guys, DO NOT GET YOURSELF LAID! Now, if the opportunity just flops in your lap, fine. Take it. Never turn down good ass. However, your main goal here is to get THEM laid. Countless times have I gone to the bar, opened some girls and brought them back to my new found friends in order to make these guys desire to be around me more often. And since I started doing this, every night my phone is ringing with GUYS texting, inviting me to parties with them. Once we have a base of guys that we don't mind going out and partying with, we can start to work on the actual fucking of the girls. By now, with you getting your new guy friends laid, they should know that you are smooth with the ladies. And the great thing about guys is that they cannot keep their mouth shut. And the thing is, you don't even have to get them laid or actually fuck any girls yourself in order for them to picture you as a manwhore. All you have to do is open girls and get them to talk to your buddies. It's not your fault if Johnny can't close or Richard has a limp dick when he gets around women. As long as you are willing to pawn girls off onto them instead of taking the first bite, the rewards will be 10fold and these guys will idolize you. Once you are at parties, all you have to do is be calm and seductive. 60 talks heaps about this. To quote him loosely: "Being social does not get you laid. Being seductive gets you laid." You have been social and got the invites and ever guy there liking you. The seduction is now on you.
Why This Always Works: It's know that guys that are pre-chosen are more attractive. It is also known that guys that are the leader of men are more attractive. Imagine the leadership vibe you give off when you walk into a
room where only the cool guys know you and are HAPPY about you being there? The women that have the eye on the alpha male see that he LIKES YOU and this gets her panties wet for YOU. Now, let's say that Richard gets pissy because his girl is liking you instead of him. This is where you being a manwhore in his eyes pays off. He will try to cock block you by saying things like "Oh, Tov always gets a new girl every week." or something along those lines. This will hurt your chances with laying her...that night. If you can handle these onslaughts of people questioning your moral fiber with genuine acceptance of your own lifestyle you will be golden and when the girls get horny at a party and you are there, they know you are a good fuck and you don't talk about who you've fucked. Those guys don't know WHICH girls you've fucked. Hell, they don't even know if you have EVER fucked a girl. So they can't say "Oh, well Tov fucked so and so. Isn't he a slut?" All he can say is that you sleep around and girls like you "for some strange reason." It is seldom that guys try to cock block me like this since my social circle now knows my game and knows the rules. However, on Thanksgiving, we were all drinking and I was flirting with this girl. As we are sitting on the couch and talking, some kino here and there, my friends say "Oh Tov! Do you remember like 2 or 3 weeks ago when you fucked that girl in the bathroom? THREE TIMES!" I just smile and say "yup' and go back to what I was saying with the girl. She didn't even say anything and we fucked that night and are still fucking around 1-2 times a week now.
Wrap Up: In everything you do, this should be about bettering your life. No reason in going out and fucking chicks if your personal life is shit. I had to learn to build my social circle since I was a loner and only had 2-3 people I hung out with. I wanted to be invited to parties and have people like me. The girls were honestly just a fringe benefit. Focus on building your circle in a way that will get you the results that you want. I think this gets you the best of all worlds, but then again, this is my first time actually running a social circle where people look up to me for guidance. Questions, comments, flamming, hate. Do it up right.
