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Speed Seduction® Coaching Program “Ask Me Anything” Coaching Call Transcript

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 Created By

Ross Jeffries The “Guru of Getting Some” Website: http://www.seduction.com For the smart guy who refuses to resort to bullying bullying,, begging begging,, buying,, B.S. or booze buying or booze,, in his pursuit of happiness. Copyright © 2009, Ghita Services, Inc. All Rights Reserved. This transcript may not be duplicated without written permission from the author.

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Ross:

It is May 19, 2009. Welcome to the Ask Me Anything call. My apologies, the call was scheduled for yesterday , and I was just flatout exhausted and missed it. Please accept my apologies that we‟re doing the call tonight. I‟ll do my best to make it up to you guys. Let‟s get going. I just want to encourage you while I‟m waiting for you to start asking questions to get on the message board. Eric, who‟s one of our members, got laid twice in the matter of a week. Eric‟s going strong. If you‟re not following my blog, you should be. I‟ve been doing an ongoing series with Basket- Case Bob, who I‟ve been working with. Basket-Case Bob is about to make some giant breakthroughs in his sarging. The first session with Basket-Case Bob was just assessing him. In the second session, I gave him some assignments to do. In the third session, I took the weaknesses and strengths I‟d learned from the second session and showed him how to program them in ritually. With us on the phone is Doug. He‟s one of my senior stu dents and has been around for some time. Doug I am just now introducing Basket-Case Bob—soon to be Big, Bad Bob or Babe-Banging Bob—to ritual magick. I took him to the beach, videotaped it, and showed him how to do rituals. I think Bob is in for something. You got some amazing results when you started doing the magick rituals, did you not?

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Doug:

Yes, totally. The rituals and the meditations were what helped me transition from my old AFC self to just getting out there and using the tools. The magick, beliefs and meditation were the top three that made the biggest difference for me.

Ross:

They power all the other techniques. If you‟re not doing it, guys, you really should be. Let‟s go to the next person in the queue. Egotwist, how are you, what can I do f or you, and what‟s up?

Jim:

I had a great experience this past weekend. I was using some of your techniques and they were all working really well. I was having a woman move her pictures around. She still has an ex in her world that she‟s trying to reconc ile with her daughters. That‟s her filter she‟s seeing things through. I want to get him out of there, diminished, back in the past or moved out of there so she has just her daughters that she‟s working with. The guy‟s pictures just kept popping up again a nd again.

Ross:

Hold on just one second. I‟m going to constructively interrupt you. Whenever I work with students, I want them to take on the orientation that they‟re going to notice first and foremost what they did right. You said you were doing some s tuff and it‟s really working. Let‟s talk about what it is. That‟s for your benefit and also for the benefit of the people on the call who I might invite to ask you questions, as well as reading the transcript and listening to the recording.


What is it that you did that worked? Tell me all the things you did that worked. Jim:

I wish I had taken notes. The main thing that I was doing was asking her about her life, what she‟s up to, and then riffing off the information she was giving me.

Ross:

Can I slow you down just a second? When you say “riffing off the information,” how specifically were you doing that? Tell us how you fed that information back and what you did with it.

Jim:

For example, she‟s writing a novel. I asked her to tell me about the novel. Then after she told me a little bit about it and we kidded around about the story, I asked her when she‟s writing, what voice does she hear in her head? Is it her own voice or someone else‟s that‟s working on the novel?

Ross:

Very good.

Jim:

From there, I went on to ask her, “Is that the same voice you hear every day, or is it a different voice? What are the characteristics of the voices you hear?”

Ross:

What was your intent in doing that? What were you aiming at? I know what you were aiming at, but tell the people listening why you thought that would be a useful direction to take with her.

Jim:

First off, I‟m taking what she‟s telling me and I‟m acting involved and curious about it. Then I‟m beginning to reveal to her that there are levels in her mind that she‟s not aware of that I, obviously, am aware of. I‟m building my credibility in the process.


Ross:

How else might it be useful to find out what voice she hears in her mind when she‟s making up stories?

Jim:

It helps me understand how she‟s oriented in l ife. If she was hearing, for example, Johnny Carson‟s voice reading her novel, that would be something different than if she‟s hearing herself. All of her voices were her own, but the intonation, pace and energy level of the voices was entirely different.

Ross:

Just to give you some future advice, when working with a highly creative person like an actor, writer, painter, artist or novelist, I like to ask them about how they get their ideas. In what way do they first feel an idea coming over them? Do they feel it in their body? If they‟re a writer, I‟ll say, “How do you allow a character to come inside you?” Take the metaphor for their work, like creating the characters, and mix it with sexual metaphor. Watch their answers. Anchor the answers and mirror them back. I think you‟re doing quite well. I want to continue to encourage you to move and think this way. She told you there is some other guy in her mind and you moved the pictures of him in her mind, but they kept coming back. Is that correct?

Jim:

Yes. She‟s separated. She‟s still getting over the last hurdles of the divorce and things of that nature. Her message to me when we started was, “I‟m just looking for a casual, friendship thing.” She‟s not into, “I have to find Mr. Right next week.” She h as a much more distant horizon. 4

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Ross:

Does that rule out fucking?

Jim:

No, but if I‟m listening correctly, then Stage 1 is to get her to forget about him.

Ross:

I don‟t know how much you ought to aim at her forgetting about him. I perfectly agree with you aiming at her focusing on you. I don‟t know that I would give too much attention to getting her to forget about him. I would get her to focus on you and what she enjoys about you, giving her great sex and having her enjoy herself with you. That will give you leverage into her mind. When it comes time that you feel you might still want to work at getting rid of him, then you can do it. You‟ve got the cart before the horse, so to speak— or the cart before the whore, if you like. What you‟re trying to do i s get her to forget about him and then you‟ll get into her mind. Since he‟s already somewhat in the past anyway, get into her mind, get into her pants, and then it may be less necessary to work him out of there. If you do decide to do it, you‟ll have som e leverage. Do you understand what I‟m saying?

Jim:

Sure. One of the things I said to her is, “Sometimes when you‟re working with your own pictures and you want to do something,” because she had expressed the fact that she wanted to stop thinking about that so much, “you could throw a blue cloth over it or move the picture back behind your head. You could just shrink the size of it.


“Those are things you can do that may help you to change the filter you‟re seeing things through.” I was trying to give he r tools that she could work with when I wasn‟t around. Ross:

I appreciate that. First of all, I applaud you in your explorations. I applaud you for thinking, “There are some tools in Ross‟s bag of tricks. Let‟s whip them out and see how they work.” This i s the orientation I want to you have. This is the orientation that leads to great success over time. This is the point of having a coaching program. Don‟t worry too much about getting rid of him. Don‟t even bring it up. Don‟t put it on the table or open that door. Instead, just focus on turning her on and letting her have fun. Fractionate her in terms of the different vibes you present her, and fuck her silly. You also have to think in terms of molecules. When you think of women, think of molecular biology. Think of what molecules are going on in her head. Once you start fucking her and the endorphins and the oxytocin get released, she‟ll be thinking about you with a different part of her brain. Then you‟re going to have a lot more leverage. What you‟r e trying to do, which is basically change the submodalities of her internal image, works a hell of a lot better if a person has motivation to make it work and make it stick. If doing those sub-modalities aligns with a person‟s values, beliefs and what‟s of interest to them, you‟re going to have a lot more ease doing it. The best leverage you can have to get her to want to change is to fuck her silly.


You were the guy who told me you are in your 60s. Is that correct? Jim:

I am 60.

Ross:

How old is this woman?

Jim:

53.

Ross:

How do you know her?

Jim:

Believe it or not, I connected off Match.com.

Ross:

There‟s a poem I wrote that will do fantastic for you. It‟s called “Essence.” I will post it in the members area tomorrow, but it goes something like this: As I look at you closely, So clearly I see Two of you there, One that yearns to be free. One that longs to find someone To show your true face Without any masks Just beauty and grace. A person to lead you To that special door That helps you to come From the passionate core. A person to help Break the old, heavy chains Free of all judgments, Free once again 7


To drink deeply of passion, A bright scarlet kiss Tasting of ex That you‟re mine and you‟re mine There still is a place to feel totally loved And accept this embrace Open your spirit, your longing, desire

Feeling totally free, released from the past Step beyond who you were Into freedom at last. Into a new future that you now clearly see Come, take my hand. Come, soar and feel free.

Say this to her, “Someone sent me something on the internet. For some reason, it just resonated with me. I thought, as you listen to it, it will really start to accord with you. Can I share it with you, Debbie?” Call her on the phone and say it to her. Then say, “The interesting thing about poems is how sometimes by taking a deep breath and letting out, all the best images and most beautiful feelings from that can come flooding through you again. “My friend says sometimes it‟s like each breath you take, each moment that goes by, the better you feel in this wonderful place where all that matters is what‟s ahead of you now, all the ways you want what‟s ahead of you to touch you wonderfully. The past melts


away to nothing. All that opens up in front of you is this wonderful present.” This “wonderful present,” get it? I found that with women who are hurting from breakups, they cream themselves and run over to fuck me. I‟m going to give you that. See if that w orks. Sometimes you have to haul out the big guns, you know? Can I just say something parenthetically? I want to say thank you to you. I‟m going to say this officially, on the record. For the last few weeks, I‟ve just been exhausted. My works has not bee n a lot of fun because I‟ve just been so tired. Finally getting back to giving guys real results that are going to turn it around makes me happy. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to share my talent. Do you get the sense that that poem might turn her around? Jim:

If that won‟t, nothing will. That‟s heavy artillery.

Ross:

I know. The thing is, don‟t claim it‟s yours. Be honest about it. Say, “I saw this on the internet. Someone sent this to me, and it‟s so beautiful. I just got the feeling that it applies to you. Listen to this.” Do you have anything else before we get to the next call?

Jim:

I just wanted to mention something that may help your other guys. I just listen to your Gold Walk-Up and The Secrets of Irresistible Arousal. I started running the Twins comparison on her. I got to the first one. She‟s smart. She‟s an ex-attorney. She said, “I‟m going to have to think about that one.” It was great answer. I backed off. Then I ran 9


the Snack Quiz and got her into the mode again. I think the other one was too heavy for her. I just wanted to pass on my experiences. The next time I use this, I‟m going to try starting with the Snack Quiz, the really light stuff, then move into the other stuff once they get used to the pattern. Ross:

What you‟re doing is taking feedback from what you see in the real world and adopting and changing the order and the sequence, which is fine. A lot of NLP is about changing the sequence of things. When you change sequences, you get a different result. If you make a cake and you mix the dough and put it in the oven, and then when you take it out you crack in the eggs, it‟s going to be a different result. Good on you. I want to applaud you for your spirit of exploration. That‟s what I want to see more of. How did you find my program? How did you hear about me?

Jim:

I did your first set 10 years ago. That led me to two of the best women I‟ve ever known in my life. The second one was just so good, I hung around with her for eight years.

Ross:

Good for you. I love that. Thank you. Please post how you do in the forum. Stay on the call. If we run out of callers before the end of the hour, I‟ll come back to you. Let‟s take the next caller.

Eric:

This is Eric in New York.

Ross:

Hey! You‟re my hero, the guy getting laid. Good for you, man. 10


Eric:

There was another girl I was interested in, but I did not close the deal with her. I think I heard you go over this with someone else. He was getting resistance where the woman said, “I‟m not going to sleep with you tonight.” She didn‟t say that, but she said, “I‟m not going to spend the night with you tonight.” What was that you said?

Ross:

My formula for this is as follows. I ask myself, “What is the real emotional need being expressed?” Is the real emotional need, “I‟m not inter ested in you at all. I‟m leaving,” or is it, “I like you. Please don‟t make me feel pressured”? My current girlfriend told me this the first time we were together. She said, “Why do you think I‟m here? Do you think I came here just to fuck you?” I said, “I‟m not sure why you‟re here. What I know is that I only want to do what feels good and comfortable for us both, so let‟s just see whatever that is.” That‟s my standard response. The other thing you can do is humor her. You can say, “Thank goodness, because I was afraid you might expect something that I‟m not ready for.” Discharge it like that. Reflectively apply it back to her. It sounds like you‟re doing well. You got laid twice. What are you doing differently that‟s causing these results? Are you picki ng hornier women? What‟s the deal?

Eric:

What I think it might be is that I‟m not using all that many of your patterns. I think it has a lot to do with attitudes.


Ross:

When you have the attitudes right, you don‟t have to do a whole heck of a lot. I‟m sure you‟re using some kind of commands, suggestions on some level or phonetic ambiguity.

Eric:

A lot of times, if I‟m not sure about something, I‟ll just go ahead anyway. I‟ll do something and see what happens.

Ross:

That‟s the best attitude to have. That is the single best position to take. “Let‟s see what happens.” Often that‟s the only thing you can rely on. Even me, with all of my skill, experience and years, I say, “Let‟s see what happens.” I have a theory about what to use, but maybe I won‟t have to use that technique. Maybe it will work. I don‟t know if it will work. You‟ve got to maintain that open- minded attitude and say, “Let‟s see what happens.” Good for you!

Doug:

I‟ve been in Asia. I‟ve been using some of your methods over there and have been doing really well.

Ross:

Where in Asia have you been?

Doug:

I went to China, Hong Kong, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand.

Ross:

Which one of those countries, pound for pound, person for person, has the most beautiful women?

Doug:

All of them are really sur prisingly beautiful. They‟re stacked, too. Most people think Asian women aren‟t. In China, there are 1.3 billion people. There tend to be huge cities that you‟ve never heard of with eight to 10 million people. There are women all over. If you like Asian women, you just go nuts. 12


Ross:

I imagine you‟re something of a superstar there because you look so different from the normal population. My understanding, and my experience, is that many Vietnamese women are large breasted because they have some of the French blood in them.

Doug:

I was just amazed how beautiful the women were in general. It was not every one, but there are so many beautiful ones that you don‟t really care about anything else except looking at women and meeting women. I was pretty lucky using your system.

Ross:

It‟s not luck. That‟s skill, my friend.

Doug:

I was lucky to learn it.

Ross:

How did you do with the language barrier? How did that come across?

Doug:

That seemed to not be too big a problem, especially if they‟re up in your hotel room. You basically hug them and kiss them. They might fight a little bit.

Ross:

The issue is getting them up into your hotel room without shelling out any money. What were you doing to get them up in your hotel room?

Doug:

I did a lot of email and chatting with them online. I set them up for the whole thing. “Meet me in the lobby.” “Call me in my room and come up to my room. We‟ll get together and go out to dinner.” Of course, dinner came or didn‟t come. It didn‟t matter. I didn‟t mind taking them out to dinner if they were going to sleep with me or had already slept with me. 13


I just wish I could have the same results here. That‟s what my question is. I‟m starting to see more of the whole picture of what you do. I like the idea of using what they give you, but sometimes my mind is not quick enough yet or in tune well enough yet to know your stuff and use what they give me. Afterwards, or five or 20 minutes later, I say, “I should have said this when she said that.” Ross:

One of the things I suggest you do is go to my website. By the way, the

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www.Seduction.com. Go to www.Seduction.com tomorrow and click on “Video Proof.” You‟ll see a video of me working with women. You can see how I feed their language back to them and mix their language in with sexual metaphor and a very hypnotic, strong, commanding tonality. You‟ll see the results right there. They‟re wetting their pants. They‟re coming on stage. I think that‟s a really good example to see. You‟ll say, “Oh, there‟s the pattern I can follow and the general overall way it works. Okay. I can do that.” Those are perfectly free. If you want to buy a product that goes into it in great depth, buy the Irresistible Arousal DVD, which will show it. It‟s a video of me working with these girls onstage. They‟re coming all over themselves. You‟ll also see a lot of free stuff on the site. I encourage you to watch it. That‟s how you pick it up. Watc h me do it. Doug:

Sounds good. I‟ve started going back to Whole Foods in the area.


Ross:

Lots of pretty girls there.

Doug:

It‟s unbelievable.

Ross:

It‟s not that there aren‟t beautiful women around. It‟s just that they exist in pockets or pools. You‟ve got to go to those local pockets or pools where there tend to be a lot of them. I know where my local pockets and pools are. I hung out with an old friend. We were at a Starbucks on the Third Street promenade at Wilshire and 3rd from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. These beautiful girls wouldn‟t stop. Model quality women kept walking in to get coffee. Our heads were spinning. My head was spinning because I have a girlfriend. His head was spinning because he‟s too old and tired to be doing anything right now.

Doug:

Most people would say I‟m too old.

Ross:

You‟ve got to find the pockets of where they tend to congregate and just work those. Don‟t try to work all of them. Find two or three, to use a metaphor, watering holes that are filled with game. Get two approaches that work for you, and polish those approaches.

Doug:

You don‟t need to have a bagful of 20 or 30, just two or three.

Ross:

Get good at two or three of them. That‟s how the big cats hunt. Some cats hunt by ambush. Some cats hunt by running down their prey. Some cats hunt by direct attack. Some cats hunt in groups. Figure out what works for you and stick with that. You don‟t see the leopard hunting with a lot of different styles. It has one. It‟s the same with lions. Lions don‟t do the leopard style. Find what wor ks for you, find the venues that work for you, and use them. 15


Doug:

I‟ve got a couple of other venues. I‟ve got this place where there are two bookstores. There‟s a Borders and a Barnes & Noble about a block apart.

Ross:

Go for it, man. Please report in the members area. Get on the discussion groups and say how you do.

Doug:

I think I need to do some more studying of your methods.

Ross:

Watch the video. That will show you me in action, doing it.

Eric:

I think I might be struggling with something similar to the last gentleman who spoke. You talk about eliciting what her hot words are and shooting them back at her.

Ross:

I wouldn‟t call it “shooting,” but yes.

Eric:

My mind isn‟t nimble enough in the moment to be quick like that. Can you give some pointers on how to develop that skill?

Ross:

I think I already did an instructional video module on this. Fundamentally, first and foremost, it‟s about having a different orientation and a different way of looking at people. That‟s the first thing.

The orientation is that you look for process. What other people consider to be things, like love, attraction and desire, you‟re automatically going to turn into a process. You‟re going to say, “No, there‟s no such thing as love. It‟s an ongoing process with little segments to it.” Each segment has a different piece of content. There may be sounds. There may be words that have special meaning to that 16 Speed Seduction® Coaching Program Ask Me Anything Call Transcript | Tuesday, May 19, 2009 Copyright  2009, Ghita Services, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Website – http://www.seduction.com

person. You‟ve got to learn to take a different view on people. You‟re not going to view people as a conglomerate of things. Rather, people are an ongoing process. I forget how Shinzen puts it, but his teacher refers to the activity known as “Eric,” not Eric. It‟s not, “Eric is smart,” but, “The activity called Eric is engaging in the activity of using intelligence.” Take what other people turn into nouns and turn it back into verbs or processes. Look for processes in people. The second understand is that there are certain words that don‟t refer to anything clearly identifiable in the world. There are certain words that do refer to things that are clearly identifiable. If I say “wheel barrel,” you can I both have a pretty good idea of what object I mean, correct? Eric:

Yes.

Ross:

If I say “wheel barrel,” you don‟t visualize an elephant or machine gun. But if I say, “Eric, respect is pretty important to me,” do you know what I‟m visualizing when I say “respect”?

Eric:

No, I don‟t.

Ross:

There is a certain class of words which have no fixed consensus meaning. They only have individual, unique meaning to the person using them. These are words like “respect,” “desire,” “connection” and fascination. One of the reasons why these words don‟t have a specific meaning is because the word themselves refer to an action and that action can be looked at in a lot of different ways.


What looks like fascination to you may look different to me. You learn to understand that there is a certain set of words that don‟t reflect any concrete, specific, objective reality. Rather, they are statements about the person‟s deeply held, deeply felt, internal reality. You learn to hear when people are using those and learn to recognize, “Oh, she just said „fascination.‟ That‟s a vague word that has personal meaning to her.” Do you use Windows or Mac? Eric:

Mac.

Ross:

You know what a desktop looks like, right?

Eric:

Sure.

Ross:

When you want to fire up your web browser, do you type in a million lines of code to get it running?

Eric:

No, I click on a little icon.

Ross:

Exactly right. Words like “fascination” or “desire” are the icons on her desktop. When she uses those words, it‟s clicking on a lot of code much deeper in her emotional body and activating that. She‟s sort of handing you the desktop icon and telling you, “Please click it.” That‟s another metaphor. Learning to view people in a profoundly different way is difficult at first because we‟re not taught this. We‟re taught in the English language to think in terms of things and what a person is. We think in terms of identification. “I am a liar.” “I am honest.” That‟s not the 18


essence of you. It‟s simply beha viors that you frequently engage in or don‟t frequently engage in. Learn to look at how language can either free people or freeze people. When people use language, often, particularly if you get them talking about an emotionally charged subject, these words will come out. Learn to become alert to those words and get curious. Say, “Really? Tell me more about when you feel destiny. Where do you first feel destiny in your body? I‟m just curious.” It‟s a different orientation and a different set of understan dings, not just about how women work, although first women because we want to get laid. That‟s what I would encourage you to do. When you watch my products and videos, watch when I‟m working with women on stage. Watch how I feed things back to them. This is crucial. When you see me do it, you‟ll understand how it works. That‟s my suggestion to you. Keep on posting. Doug, are you doing any sarging lately, buddy? Doug:

A little bit. I‟ve been focusing mostly on my business for the last month or so.

Ross:

You‟re coming to my MindFrame Persuasion® event. You‟re focused on business.

Doug:

There‟s a girl that I‟m sleeping with. I‟ve known her since summer. I‟m not going out as much as I‟d like to sarge. I‟m focused on making that money. That‟s basically what I‟v e been doing. 19


Ross:

I understand. Doug, your first priority is never relationships This is my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer here. I believe as a man our first priority is our spiritual grounding, our physical health, then our career, and then our relationships. Women have to make relationships first, but not us. I t‟s not our job to make it first.

Doug:

That‟s another thing I‟ve changed around. I‟ve gotten so much more energy. I‟m still working my butt off , but my energy level is rocking. I‟m exercising every day. I‟m finding that it‟s not that I don‟t have the urge to run out and sarge. I‟m feeling more like I want to do things for myself lately. I‟m pretty content. I have somebody. The sex is good. Everything‟s cool that way.

Ross:

It‟s good if you have somebody you‟re pumping. You get to dump your load. Good on you, man. “Doug, Doug, dump your load, make her open wide, spray it all around her face and stick your piece inside.” That‟s why I get paid the big bucks.

Doug:

I have a question about after I signed up for seminar. I ‟ve got the downloads. I‟ve been listening to those. I‟m really interested. I want to start using that, but then my business gets more business. I have a vague question. I‟ve been trying to figure it out on my own. My business does take up a lot of my time and energy. I do see myself in the future in a year or two still with the same business, but doing something different. I‟ve been using the Magick rituals and schedules.


Ross:

I‟ll tell you what. When you come out to C alifornia, you and I will have dinner together. There are some things I want to talk to you about. I can‟t talk anymore now, but we‟ll talk.

Doug:

Cool. That‟s good enough for me, sir.

Participant:

You‟ve got so many different programs and so much stuff. I‟ve been on awhile with you, but still not long enough. Is there any particular way you would recommend we go about getting your products or listening to them, or is it just basically we should take it as we find it and assimilate it the best we can?

Ross:

Doug, you‟ve been around for many years. You tell him. You have all of my products.

Participant:

Ross has different types of information and ways he tries to disseminate his information, conferences, conference calls like this and meetings. I‟m wondering what products or things you would suggest for somebody relatively new. It‟s been about five or six months for me. Over six weeks of that , I was in Asia. What do you recommend as the best products to get into early that I don‟t want to miss, and where do I go from there?

Doug:

I would say Nail Your Inner Game for a student that‟s fairly new like you, within six months or so. I first started learning around the time Ross started sharing the meditation. That really helped quiet my mind. I was able to learn better. I think Nail Your Inner Game is number one. It‟s not the most glamorous. There are no crazy language patterns or any of that stuff. Once you learn it, it‟s simple. You learn equanimity. 21


Basically, I learned to have that equanimity. I can go into a situation and I can be nervous or scared, or any emotion that‟s going through my body, and it‟s natural. It‟s hard to explain. Participant:

I think I know what you mean. You‟ll be talking to a woman and she says something and without even thinking, your mind pops out what you thought would have been good to say. You‟ve been studying, repeating and hearing it. You‟ve heard it enough times so it‟s in there and you didn‟t even realize it.

Ross:

The word I‟m thinking of is “ immersion.” Immerse yourself in this material. Have CDs constantly playing in the background. I had a student who had a waterproof CD player that he put in his shower. He had CD players all over his apartment. It was playing everywhere. I also think you should get the latest material firs t. If you don‟t have the 3.0 course, you should. The DVDs come with transcripts. It all depends on how you learn. There are also CDs. Make a sound file and listen to it on your iPod when you‟re falling asleep at night. Watch the DVDs. Play the CDs in your car. Read the transcripts. Immerse yourself in it. I would say that 3.0 is the most clearly spelled out. It‟s the most linear. It goes step by step into decision trees and which way to go if you try this or that option. As a member of this group, you have access to the Speed Seduction® video modules. There are five of them. It seems to me


that you have not watched the “Getting Up to Speed With Speed Seduction®” video modules. Participant:

I think you‟re correct, although I have tried to immerse myself. When I went to Asia, I had an extra iPod with your stuff. I have CDs I listen to. I have some of your DVDs. You‟ve got a lot of stuff.

Ross:

I‟ve been doing this for 20 years. I don‟t know how to stop learning and teaching. I could have quit back in 1997. You‟ll see where it says “Home” on the site, then “Resources.” I‟m talking about the www.SeductionProgram.com website. You also are a member of my coaching program. Have you been to www.SeductionProgram.com ? That‟s the official website of the coaching program.

Participant:

I think so, but I‟m not positive.

Ross:

When you signed up, you got an email that gave you a username and a login.

Participant:

I just went to it. I have a username and login on my database.

Ross:

Once you log in, you will see “Resources.” Click on that. If you scroll around you‟ll see , “Getting Up to Speed With Speed Seduction® video course.” The other place you can find it is if you go to www.SpeedSeductionFree.com . The advantage if you get it on the coaching program is you can also download the audio files and transcripts. It‟s really important that you‟re aware of this.


I‟m a little perturbed that you aren‟t aware of these resources. I‟m not blaming you. I thought I had established a process with my team to make sure that everyone who joins knows about these resources. If you click on “Resources ,” you‟ll see the “Getting Up to Speed With Speed Seduction®” modules and the Speed Seduction® Starter Kit downloadable tools. Click on the “Getting Up to Speed With Speed Seduction®” instructional videos and go through them. They‟re fantastic. Participant:

I see them now.

Ross:

Have you watched them?

Participant:

I have not, but I will tonight.

Ross:

Take a couple of weeks to study them. This will make the whole thing so much easier. What you see there, combined with Speed Seduction® 3.0, will skyrocket you to where you want to go. Do you have Speed Seduction® 3.0 yet?

Participant:

Is that the nine CDs?

Ross:

It‟s got DVDs as well.

Participant:

I think I have 2.0 from a few years ago.

Ross:

This is a new course. I just came out with it six months ago. You need to get it. If you watch the DVDs, listen to the CDs and go through the video modules, you‟ll tear a new hole into everything you find.


By the way, I‟m not in any way perturbed with you. I‟m just a little perturbed that we have not gotten the message clearly to people about the resources. I really w ant people to get results. I‟m fanatically dedicated to people getting results. Participant:

I‟ve got a thick skin. You can yell and scream at me.

Ross:

I would not do that.

Participant:

I know you wouldn‟t, but I‟m from New York City.

Swoop:

I‟ve picked up the Shinzen Young material an d I‟ve started going through it.

Ross:

It‟s brilliant.

Swoop:

It is very good. I‟m ve ry impressed. I‟ve also been inspired listening to this call. I‟ve been looking for better locations. As I mentioned to you, I‟ve been going out to bars and clubs. I‟m going to change my venues. I have a question about the order of putting some of your patterns together. What is the best format? What are the best patterns to start running first? What‟s most appropriate?

Ross:

The first thing is to understand how this all works and get my mindset. Have you been on the call the whole time?

Swoop:

I have.

Ross:

You heard what I said about looking for process rather than looking for things. Did you understand that distinction?

Swoop:

Yes. 25


Ross:

I‟ll keep coming back to this. Do you have the 3.0 course?

Swoop:

No, I don‟t.

Ross:

It sounds like I‟m trying to sell more stuff , but the reality is that the 3.0 course is the most modern course. It has the most linear presentation of Step A, Step B, a nd if this doesn‟t work, go to D or E. If you don‟t have the 3.0 course, you should really get it. It represents my best and most current thinking. Have you watched the archive of all the video modules in the members area for the coaching program?

Swoop:

Yes, I have.

Ross:

My suggestion is to start with the stuff that I teach in the Gold WalkUp DVD. Start with the Snack Quiz and the Twin Brothers Scenario. From Twin Brothers and Snack Quiz, it‟s pretty easy to move into either doing a demonstration like the Cube or the Blow Job Pattern or Discovery Channel. Start with Twin Brothers and or Snack Quiz, and from there move to Discovery Channel and/ or the Blow Job Pattern. That‟s what I suggest since you want direct sequence of patterns.

Swoop:

That seems to get very sexual very early. I don‟t mind. I‟m comfortable doing it.

Ross:

It‟s not, really, but so what? The whole point is to screen people. It‟s not saying, “Fuck, fuck, suck, fuck, cunt, piss, motherfucker, pussy.” It‟s being suggestive. The right kind of person is going to respond well to that, and the wrong kind of person is going to run away. 26


Another question you have to ask yourself is what is the emotional pattern? What is the energetic pattern? What is the mentality and psyche of the kind of woman you want to attract? Swoop:

Sexual. I‟m with you.

Ross:

You asked for the sequence, so I gave you the sequence. That‟s what I suggest you do.

Swoop:

I‟m totally comfortable with it.

Ross:

How does this time of day work for you? What time is it in Australia?

Swoop:

It‟s midday.

Ross:

I love doing this. I would do it all the time if I could afford to. I appreciate having you guys as my students. It‟s great. I‟m back teaching and doing what I love to do. There was a while there when I was too tired to enjo y any of this. Now I‟m back to enjoying it. Guys, I‟m going to conclude the call. I want to thank you for being with us. If you have not already posted your question on the discussion board so I can do a video for you, will you please do it? I‟d like to get those all knocked out by the end of the week. Thanks much. Keep on sarging. And remember, keep it clean or it will fall off! Bye now.


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